Maamar Choviv 1940 #8- Each of three souls have intellect and emotions. How does it work?

okay so we are at uh learning today a footnote from the essence of hasidis which i just announced i'd like to study next or if not next at least following that because i want everyone to have a safer you know it's very worthwhile and uh between you know crocodile and the chemist bookstores i would hope they can get you the volume so joni do you have it or not the only i don't hear you i don't hear you yoni what's going on you oh wait on me go ahead unmute easter speak i want to hear answer okay uh can you hear me yeah so why am i not able to hear yoni could be a problem with his microphone or he's on mute yeah yoni no yoni's not on you but yoni we can't hear you for some reason maybe you you only maybe yeah yeah you'll go we'll come back on okay okay so you have it motion now okay so it's page 22 footnote seven th this is uh uh a note to explain better hopefully uh what misha asked about the difference between the nephili kiss cyclists and bahamas and this is from the safer hot tummy yes you're innocent are you there do you have the the safer and the essence of considers or do you have the whatsapp that mija sent okay good good good so it's paid the page 22 foot note 7. so this is from hatton just for your information good to have basic about information was a journal that was put out in poland in the la babachi yeshiva in the 1930s the editor of which we found out later was the rebel but you won't see his name you won't see his name as the editor the editors names are other editors and they of course work with the rebber but um the atomium was a publication that had history and and happenings things that were happened in the general community that that lubavitch had yeshivas and and stiebla and it's a very important uh historical piece of information uh in addition to the div retailer there which some is incredible deep and very profound learning there's also you know uh it it gives you a sense of what was going on a little bit at the time in poland 1930s and the intermingling of the babic chabad and other communities like bells and uh even bhav and you know the different communities where the the rayats the previous rebbe sent some of his talmudim to share hasidis and to strengthen the breakdown of the time in polish jewry where a modern current swept poland as we've discussed you know many times from my own family's uh ancestry to to many others uh you look take a look at the grandfathers they had full beards and they looked like sadiq and everything else and and the kids were already modern without beards and without yarmulkes and and they made their way whether it was the central america some of my relatives or canada or america or er cicero and um they were you know poverty was was so great in adults at that time and they didn't want to have any more of that and they pretty much um left so i don't know if they you know i'm not sure they left with anger and rebellion but they didn't want to have and you know they wanted to you know live normally and and they they didn't give in to the they didn't want to cooperate with the lifestyle also zionism was very very powerful the pleo they see it you know they they infiltrated all the communities all the communities and they were very zionistic yes moishe this would you look reverend or just what you're saying now is it is of course in warsaw too now warsaw had so many eden that there was a very strong um feeling of of froomkite and khasidhiskait but i'm sure if you take the figures it was not comparable to the others that were not that way but but i understand your question because we always hear about warso uh you know rabbit salavachiku you know the brisker the the lit factor the snugget he as he would call himself he talks about how he saw the eden coming into schule after the mikvah with the wet pace and it left an impression on him and how it you know it made an impact on him you know but that's that's that's a tiny amount so but but it was it was palpable it was do you understand but warsaw was um i'll give you an example i'm glad you asked that i remind myself something that i don't think i ever told you this is interesting i came across a letter from rabbi shahad's father his name was dove yahudah you know we know rabbi shahad in los angeles emmanuel shakhadela show and those the shahad's sons their father was dog yehuda and he was he was a massive town with him and he he was born in tells and he learned intel's and he became uh you know somewhat of a lebanese it's a whole history and why i i wrote a lot about it in my book on khabar and tells because it was a big revolution i mean he he was one of mr tells in in america and he knew the torah there's a lot to speak about he was the father of all the shahads okay so so i read a letter tell started it's going to be funny what i'm going to say now but they started just like the michigan you know formed a group well tells how to symbol a group and guess what the name of the group was the name of the group was um noisy essa de gel we carry the flag like the michigan have their flag right i i'm telling you i i plus i cracked up but i read this tells 1930s is talking about a group they started called carrying the flag what flag the flag of tells and tells you know had a very unique and different um approach to in the literature world and it was a very interesting approach and in certain ways it shared some up with chabad and i and i think i wrote about that too i believe that they you know i think that they picked up on some of khabad's approach and they and they they they had a very interesting idea of having in each city or in as many cities as possible wherever there was a telser student they wanted him to carry the flag they wanted him to influence others with the tel shita and they were looking for influencers we'll use a word that's very popular today influencers well rabitovich became a rabbi in basil switzerland in the 1940s during the war i think or after the war but in the 40s sometime and actually sorry he was already a rabbi maybe there before the war i'm sorry before the war sorry take that back in the 1930s anyway they look to him to become to join the group of noise and he of course if this is what tells wants he's going to do it and then in 19 i think it's 39 38 39 he writes a letter to to the organizers of the noisemas abdega group and he says basically he says to them you failed you're failing he says i happen to be in warsaw this is where i'm connecting it to my ship squad i was in warsaw and i could i couldn't find but one kosher restaurant where i could eat at now i he he was a very fruit person so he had a standard but the letter implies i'm just telling you a letter you know this go this is in in his this isn't made up he says i came there for meetings or whatever the case i needed something to eat and i can and i asked around they told me yeah there's one restaurant here a place you can eat what does that tell you moishe it tells you that the situation by and large was was still was very weak so the rabbit the freedom understood this and he and he had his some of his students visit the yeshivas and and and work with the existing yeshivas not to do a cool and and to overtake no but to work with the exit and i make up i make that as a point because there are other letters that i found that i also cited in another book where you see clearly in my book on khasid on the above even bells and gare and vishnuts he clearly says to the the two students that the student that went there to check out the yeshivas i'm not looking to overtake any yeshivas i want to if there's a place that you that you feel could use a yeshiva to boost the morale of the students and to give them more yiddish guide let me know and that's where we should place the yeshiva so clearly you see that his interest was not to overtake them and overrun them but rather to work with them and i think that's a very important piece of history for the babbage to know so anyway this journal is a very important one the word hatami means the sincere one right the students in the yeshiva are called to me meme and the singular is tamim so if you're in a chabad shul and there's a gabai and we have a ghaba here but it's not about you but a god by many times if he calls up a student who's not married he'll call him up so and so it's not obligatory and in fact it's going to raise some antennas uh to people who are old-fashioned they're going to say what but that means someone who learns in khabad yeshiva now one last point of information you will notice on certain tombstones let's say the bjor khan's tombstone which you could probably find online it says hatomim the the issue of learning in alabama yeshiva was a mainstay was a pride it was in a way more important than the wrath and the red the fact that you learned and alabama yeshiva in the chabad uh credo an ideology it's like the highest compliment and that's why certain people the people have written for those who passed on whether it be a father etc uh so the name of this journal that we're reading we're going to read from right now after this long introduction is called volume 3 page 66 let me read it follow along please vovo this is uh note seven misha sent out a whatsapp so you could find it on your whatsapp or if you have the safer uh on the essence of hasidis there are three basic souls in every jew the godly soul the intellectual soul and the natural soul the natural soul we call nephew babies each of these three souls contains a full complement of both intellectual and emotional faculties in accordance with its nature in other words you got three and each of the three has a component of seijo and a component of middles so it's three times two is six before i go further i need to make sure you understand what i just said if not ask me in other words yes my go ahead i just i didn't you said each one of the each one of the shamans as what has safe has has faculties is not a faculty a faculty is the tool and instrument used by the soul by the nephesh so that would be what one faculty is the mind the use of the mind and middles the use of the heart the emotions so in other words the the the godly soul has a set of circular middles that it uses based on it being godly the natural soul that efficient bomb is has a set of psychologists based on its animalistic natural tendencies and the intellectual soul also has an element excuse me an element of sejal amidos based on its intellectual soul that's what it said until now now the natural soul is called the animal soul nephesh obama's why for all of its desires are directed towards materialistic and animalistic ends i think that's clear spelled out clearly in english now talking about the second soul the intellectual part wait no sorry the intellectual part of the animal soul okay the intellectual the sacral of the animal soul of the animal nephesh engages in rationalizing actions according to its own understanding according to its own understanding and is connected with self-preservation and self-justification okay in other words what is the aspect of seijo of intellect from the perspective of the rat of of the of the animal soul it's to justify what it wants it's to justify its in preservation self needs but it does it with sacral right what about the component of emotions within the animal soul the emotional part of the animal soul is what we call the evil inclination the eights are hara i.e the emotional part of the animal soul is the inclination to do evil while the intellectual part of the animal soul next page is the means of justifying the act there is the act of evil it's wrong the act is wrong that's called the emotions the feelings and then there is justifying it how can i justify it because i've the animal soul says i want this and i need to preserve it and i need to justify it because i i you know i otherwise i'm a complete lunatic a complete nut the complete uh outcast but close the light please is this clear before we go further you know if you got it you got to tell me if it's clear to you what is what we just said if not we have to explain it how about this would someone want to explain what we just said in their own words give me an example give me an example of what we're learning now give me an example then i'll know you understand it anyone don't be shy now we've just met each other come on i can give it a shot go ahead go ahead avrom good let's go go for it you get three souls get intellectual soul events so the animals so each one always have two two i guess uh i just say attributes or two two two instruments two two ways two ways each one has intellect and emotions for the animal soul the intellect is is i would say it's like it's like a klippa noga it's not good or bad but the emotions come from the side of yet sahara that's what drives the animal soul to try to do all these things that satisfies desires and lost okay good good and i have a question yes i have a question so we discuss it in last year [Music] because from my understanding as far as the learn network bahamas is not necessarily bad it just just wants you to keep us alive so and it's not necessarily something which is you know initially bad so that's that's uh just to understand because it says here now that uh it's uh that but but velville it says here that's why we're learning it i'm glad you're asking it says the emotional part of the nephesh obama's yet sahara not the intellectual part okay and that that's exactly why we're learning this in other words so when again this is the way khabad khasid sees it i mean i don't think you'll find this in other hasidic literature this this division this is a very much a chabad uh idea that that when we say yetzer hara is sir we mean that aspect of the nefesh obama is that's emotional in the sense of acting doing the the bad act hello yeah doing doing the d during the deed that that's the yates or so that's the emotion within the nefesh obamas what about the the justification for doing the act that's like you said clippers noiga that's not evil that is a a a a ration a rationale one second my show while rationale to explain why i'm doing it why isn't that the necessities though oh wait wait excellent oh this is a a deep consider student wait good question wait till the next paragraph yes so which so which is the part of the nefesha bahamas which is the part that's the drive of the nephesh mamas that says i want the ice cream i gotta have the ice cream so if it the i want is the emotion why i want and how i want that's the intellect you got it good let's continue now next paragraph until one has the appropriate instruments with which he can correct the inclinations of the animal soul one must first break one's natural desires in other words before you you you you work on converting transforming the desires the first thing is you got to say stop i'm going in a bad direction stop that's meaning break the desires true divine service however is not breaking but fixing mending in hebrew tickle and one begins the service of mending with the intellectual soul here he starts he answers the question briefly the middle soul you see so we have an animal soul that that the emotional part wants the bed right now now you want us you realize that it's not good you want to stop you want to change you want to you'd like it shouldn't it shouldn't you shouldn't have that desire it doesn't happen from one extreme to the other it's very unusual the first thing is you have to tickle you have to mend says that says this note the mending comes from that intellectual soul the middle song the instrument is the study of hasidis which includes the contemplation of those ideas which are in consonance with one's level of understanding and of material which also can be understood by and is able to arouse the heart in other words one minute one minute one minute we say that the intellectual soul also has a component of seiko and middles so yo his question was before the sinkhole of the nepheshabami's to justify i want this i want that his question is why isn't that part of the intel intellectual soul very simple yoni because that sacral is a subordinate to his want it's not pure single it's not pure logic it's already a tainted logic but it's not tainted to the point where it's evil logic it's a logic that leans towards it leans towards the want pure cycle which comes from the middle soul the intellectual soul that's pure so in the sense it it has the ability to begin reparation can't begin tickling you know why because it's it's leaning towards the the want the emotion the bad and justifying it so how can in other words the same what what it's bringing to mind the the the parable of the magic of the painting the target around the arrow so the emotion of the nevisha bahamas has a desire now comes the intellect of the bahamas and it's going to come to justify that desire correct it's painting the target around the arrow right very good painting the target around the arrow you guys understand what he said so the dupe in the bucket you can either paint have the arrows this is what i want and now i have to justify it so i make a target around it you know but that's that's that's all within the nevisha bahamas that is nefesh you know it's by nephew it begins with the emotion it doesn't say this here but i'm telling you what it says elsewhere that never shall be what but then you said that within the bahamas the component of seiko justifies it that's right so it's already it's already schlepped it slept it slept in so so what is the okay so now we're we're now oh now it's begins the mending the tickle it's not good i disagree in other words the nephesh has the intellect of the nephew sichlis is the argument intellectual argumentation to the argument of the nephi of the sacred nephilims the sake of nephi obama's is what justifies the the the craving right comes along the sacral of the nephew shasik says you have it all wrong and i'll prove to you why and when it proves to it why it can begin it can begin mending in other words to go from the nefesh obama state to the the nephesh eloquent state is like impossible i'm not going to say impossible it never can happen it could be an ila and it could be a truva that there's always a an exception but we're talking now the regular route the regular route is that the in order to get to ello kiss to net for shelly kiss you have to first break the ice stop the pattern of the behavior so i um hillow's not here but let's talk velvet you know guys we have another issue the doctors you know the idea of you have a craving you have an addiction before you could talk about transforming the addiction where it's it's no longer an addiction on the contrary you're addicted now to the something healthy you first gotta stop it you gotta break it somehow i mean uh you know and again i i'm not an expert in that field but yes my i just i just i want to share this i think we've spoken about this before and share but this this passage that with the paragraph we just wrote read about defend about the fix in the mending yeah reminds me the story there was once a husted that brought a snuff box to i don't know if it was the middleweight or that someone said it's a massage okay and he's gave him the stuff box and the snuff and the that some of zedek he he right away knew he took the gift but he right away knew that it wasn't something he was going to use it was like it just wasn't within his sphere of using the snuff box but but so i guess what there was another hosted no no he so he told him give it to my son the marash the rebel mirage he said for him it's an avoider in other words he took you know would benefit that so he took it but then he he he somehow said to one of his hasidim said you know what i'm not going to use it i'm going to use it or oh yeah i'm going to use the the shiny silver underside of the lid as a mirror to look at when i tell me to fill in right right through his friend wanted to say okay fine i'll take it he was about to take it and just break it off and and then ma rash then said no no he said my father that's not that's not our way to break you're right our way to remove the pin and then then to think about it right so it's just so i feel it's so connected with with what we the story is very much connected to what we just read right to me right right no no what you're saying is that that you first have to you have to stop by by mending let me read the next paragraph both well you have to i'm sorry i mean you have to it's not even before that person has to first realize like you know if there's something that we have that you you you if the i guess realize the inherent possibility in something and then you from there you want to take it and how do you channel that possibility in a healthy way as opposed to just like taking something and breaking it with a hammer okay but and and that comes from the nephesha circles you know you see you know the realization that you should mend it and not break it and all that is from the network of sickles both the godly soul and the intellectual soul have emotional attributes so now he's jumping to the godly soul and to the intellectual soul and he's now talking about the intima emotional component within each or call it character traits the intellectual soul is naturally drawn to that which is is below to that which is below it and the godly soul is actually drawn to that which is above it right in other words like this when we talk about the intellectual soul mending nevertheless it's an intellectual soul within this world so it's drawn to the world how do i meant something in the world the godly soul wants to completely forget about the world that desires to be with god to transform the nature of one's that's it i'm not going to read the rest because the rest is relevant to the paragraph in the text which we'll get to when we learned the mimer when we learned this essay but all what we what we learned here is the last part the godly soul the godly soul is not the intermediary the this is the i this was the answer to my question of last week why is this the intermediary because the godly soul is their desires to upward to be with god so it's it's it's it's it's it's my it's mind component and it's hard component is is god to feel god to understand god we're not at that point yet we're at a point where we we we have a nephesh obama's and we have a taivo so you have to you have to somehow get it to move from the left to the right you need to have a middle and that's th that's the importance of the of the rational soul of the nephesh which explains rationally to the nephesh obama's intellect you are wrong in your thinking you're justifying the taiva and and the act is is wrong and i'll prove to you why it's wrong so that yes yes yes sir i hear everything that you're saying and i understand what you're saying but i'm having trouble placing it within the context of what i've learned within tanya where does this concept of the of the nephesh so as i said last week clearly it appears in chapter 42 you'll actually see the words and efficiency but it's not explained there but those words are mentioned there that's that's just for the record but even in chapter one when the altareb is talking about the nephesh uh habamis and he says klippas noga raphila parish who wrote a commentary uh explains that he's also alluding to the nephew and that non-jews have an efficiency and that's why in addition to the khasidi umasa alam which are which are from the new the translucent clipper clippers no you guys are not showing us that mayor's when they use then the seiko that's component is is is klipas noga so the answer is you're asking a question in chapter one when he speaks about klippa's loga uh raphael says that the altered is alluding to the nepheshan and then and then there's one more point that i have to stop because i have another shear and that is when you learn about free will and actually the tanya of this week now this chapter pira you have just a simple question where is this free will how can you tell me free will is the nephesh obama's remember the nephesh the nephesh is the drive velvet i think meant right the drive the icar so if your drive is bahamas there's no free will and if you're on such a holy topic that you drive his hello kiss so then you're also not a free will where's the free will and the answer is the free will is in the place of the nephesha cyclist the intermediary soul that is where it can either go and give in to the nephesha bahamas seijo and say i'm going to support you or you can say i want to support what's greater than myself the godly soul the godly desire and intellect and i want to go that route and that's where free will is so what i'm saying to you as a third point is there is that the whole concept of free will which is again indeed chapter 48 and 49 of tanya that would be another pointer to nefer jasichi so chapter 1 chapter 42 chapter 48 i would say uh of 49 uh the chapters where it alludes to those things but you're right when most people learn tanya they don't come across that clearly um if you have and we used to have in in the ace code not in in the in the marshall the next show we used to have um casitas antonia over there in chapter one get a hold of it from hebrew it's very not well explained they talk about this so find it okay everyone will see everyone tomorrow have a great day shalom bye bye take care