Maamar Choviv 1940 #6 - Diff bet Yetzer Hara & Nefesh Bahamis - Passion is Necessary

so we're learning uh the my merch of adam and um what page is 275 is there is that where we're at yeah although i didn't have i don't know where we were because yesterday i was in the bus avrom avrom do you have the exact uh place we're at afrom i don't hear you you're a mute you're still on youtube um what did you say well over the page had a note here which says segal right yeah well okay but that's two page 275. 275 yeah but you know [Music] after the acronym huff hey gimmel okay governor you see that acronym uh is sir wolfhoff hey gimble uh no but i'm gonna look for it i i see what where abraham was [Music] further okay gimme got it got it we're talking about someone we're talking about someone who uses their seiko as a subordinate justification for their behavior so this is what we call seijo bemidos the media is the icar is primary and sakura subordinate and the rabbit gives an example someone finds justification for what he's doing become a meaner tainees with all kinds of resolutions um with all kinds of uh you know arguments whose oxmoor to um to find himself meritorious and what he's doing so he justifies what he's doing the loyal pia and his arguments are not based on litter in behold her rather to use arguments and positions to justify and say lazakus what i am doing i'm right and his middles are very passionate he's very determined and what i'm doing i'm a hundred percent right not ninety nine point nine one hundred percent the message right so it's a potato whatever he desires and wants he wants with great token with great passion um right sir and whatever he doesn't want and the rights of it if he has the same adverse feeling to what he doesn't want to what he doesn't want with great passion in other words he's an extremist this is a description of an extreme character and he says in yiddish thus verse that never shall be misveal he wants it very passionately very strongly and this that the nephesh bombings doesn't want viller need me to take if he doesn't want it with a passion and why is this about so that introduces here a very important point what is moshe the essence of the nephew bamas and you know when we began learning and yani was with us from the very beginning i remember it was his question and maybe a few others what's the difference between the neph the yetzer hara and the nephi shabamas a classical question before you learn khabar hasidis you're really not aware of this concept of it does it's mentioned in different ways in this far and before but not the way the altareba writes it and explains it and it's it's the the the altareba's introduction to obama is in the very core that you have something in there that drives you to to animalistic you know desires but the mechanism and the philosophy and all the details that go along is khabak see this is hindus but the question is what's the between that and the sahara right in the commando we have yetze so we explained many times that the nepheshabamas isn't just the practical aspect of inclination yetzer hara is already an inclination that's the meaning of the word the bad inclination and those i'm already inclined to do something bad the question that one has to ask themselves is what makes me inclined towards bad ah and this is the altered insight into the concept called nefesh obama's it's the drive that makes the inclination so practically they're like cinnamons you know like you know in in in day-to-day conversation someone who learns that tanya regardless of who he is will say it will interchange between f and but when you study more deeply you understand that the cause of the eight sahara is the nepheshabies so the question now is what is the essence of the nepheshabamas in other words the essence of the yetzahara is inclination towards ra that's the essence one second one second he said what i need you to understand this is what i'm teaching you now is fundamental the essence of the yetzer horror is already an inclination i want to do bad or the incl yetzer told us i'm inclined to do good that is the essence of each so what does this mean that means that both yates or hara and yatzer tov are already a seer right there for the word see your what does it see or mean a picture a formation an inclination the nephesh of amish is the drive that makes the computer works that we are able to have now this this class if not for the drive this would never happen once there is a drive a chip inside what comes about is what comes about nevertheless so what we know so far is that the nephesh is a drive the question is what is the content of this drive drives you'll say the content of the nephesha bombings is a drive towards animalism behavior a very behavioral animalistic approach and the drive towards moisture towards elo towards goodness is driven by a drive to be more holy that ebb of adds over here another very important point that the real essence of the nepheshabamis [Applause] lost passion but we mean a passion and a lust for whatever it lusts it doesn't mean only sexual things whatever it lusts whatever it desires it does with a passion that is never shabbat it's that energy and it's that motor that fuels the yates or horror so again don't don't make the mistake and say oh the nepheshabamis wants one thing sexual lust that's not true that's also part of it it can want honor lust uh pleasure lust greatness lust and even spiritual lust where a person won't give away their their own spiritual quests for another jew that's also a tyver it's a holier tyver but it's also a typhoon and that ever going to now explain i think no he's not but in different discourses it's explained it says there's a verse because an abundance of wheat is is created when you use the power of an ox when it comes to a field and you plow the field with an ox pulling the plow you you reap lots of wheat lots of produce imagine you had a little mule schlepping the plow first of all probably drop dead even if it can drop dead it'll barely produce any because it doesn't have any but kayak it comes to showing it an animal an animal starved is large it's big and it schleps the plow it gives you a great an abundant amount of tool and that's what the plastic says an abundance of through the power of ashoka says hasidis that the ad the eighth the never shabbat the abundant passion intense passion and this drives the nephesh obama's to get this drives the as he said earlier to do to get what it wants and to and simultaneously whatever it doesn't want to do it does with an absolute um rejection and extreme yes sir it's your turn now okay i want to i want to make sure that i understand the difference between the sahara and the navigabus by asking a question and before you answer the question i'll say the question then i'll explain the question go ahead so the question the question is thus did adam harishan have a nephesh bahamas before meaning i had always understood that the yatahara what we call the yetzahara was something external to adam until the the the of hadas and then afterwards that your heart became incorporated within them so that today we see our drive to ra as something internal it's it's part of us although it really is external but we lost that distinction after the uh you understand the question yes i do so did adam harishon have the nephesh have a bahamas before the same data okay so first of all thank you for the question it's a good question i i don't recall ever uh you know being asked well i don't recall this question being phrased the way you phrased it although the response and the idea is discussed in siddhas and the answer is that other mauritian as a human being by nature had enough why because anephesh obama's is the drive in potentia what he didn't have and what you're referring to is the yetzer horror that's why i'm saying the yeats of her is the manifestation the inclination already that didn't take place until until what until he ate from the tree but the tree so the haiti that he was born with because everyone is born with it so as soon as you say someone is born he has a nephesh obama's any every human being the difference is that the nephesh obama's pre-sin was going to use its passion for good came along the hate the sin and took it for a ride into the bed is that clear yeah and now we say uh uh that the uh what the man is is evil menara when he's he's born gateshead level ram that's what you're citing so the christians l you know they use it for their belief that you're born with sin unless you believe and you know who you're not atoned for we don't see it that way we see it that hashem gave every person a choice and part of the choice is good or bad and without refinement the world we live in drags us into the world of evil and bad and stupidity and that's why at bar and bass mitzvah when there is what we call the his galut the revelation of the neshama because you know the altar ever already says and brought that uh at birth a jewish a jew a baby an infant has in the summer at birth but that neshama 40 days after conception yeah i was going to say exactly and by the way in kabbalah and in the swarm it says that from the moment of conception there is already of some form of an ashama what you were quoting is like more halachic 40 days of after conception what about the first 40 days when two jewish people are in union what do they create crackers peanuts what are they creating they're creating a jewish desharma they're given the they're given the gift when they're when the woman is able to have a physical child but even without that as we discussed in the other share a few days ago there's always a creation of a of a spiritual offspring when there's a union but going back to what we're learning here and i'm glad you brought this up is that the message the power of desire the burning passion this is unique to the reference and by the way that's why adam that's why they sinned let me explain this if he wouldn't have the message there wouldn't be a sin there would never be hate its own you understand sin comes if you have a drive the drive is to call hamas that kayak that was given is given to uh to adam is what caused him to desire the fruit and there's another element that's mentioned in the holiest forum he looked what does it say in boracious until he looked there was no eating of the of the of the of the fruit but vaiyar when he looked it the process began and and the swarm the holy swarm explain this is the idea of riya of how important it is to be careful what we see with our eyes because what we see with our eyes creates the next step yes so i mean it's so interesting and and um elliot just brought it up also it's so interesting because like you know i remember yeshua learning about the whole eight zadas thing and this brings a totally different perspective to everything because you know you talk about like you know how how the woman she was she she she made the adam she made i you know has made others like it's right and you you know you get this idea in your mind that it's something we can't understand i mean it's like like an alternative universe right and before we you know how can we relate to such a thing but i think what the rubbish here is doing is putting it into uh an idea or a concept that it's it's it's it's yum yum it's yum yum exactly exactly that's very well said it's young tas isn't 5 000 years ago it's yo-yo you know what are we what are what what do our eyes see what where is desire coming from you know what why do you think the rebber came out with a campaign that children you know speak especially young children shouldn't you know see non-kosher animals and and you know have those things around their beds like beers teddy bears and things like that you think you had nothing what to do but to talk about it but it it's all based on these concepts of how careful the eyes and you don't want a child from a young age to associate with with with something not just secular but contrary the opposite of kadusha you know as it is you know one goes through life seeing you know you know animals like that and this also opens up the whole discussion which i don't want to go into now having dogs in your house people have always asked me what's wrong to have a dog in your house a lot of different people i'm not taking sides i'm just saying that you have to know that you have a dog which isn't a kosher animal in your house you know so so if you want to have that fine but just know i'm just saying there is something on the met on the on the mystical level i'm not talking now about you know how logically of course you want to have a dog in your house whenever dog have a dog there's a mystical element that we're sensitive to and um and and this is part of the entire idea of kosher animals what your eyes see expo expression you know exposure to those things let's go back to the text here let's see what he says says and since in capitalistic words the kayak of the nephilim bombings comes from the lower levels of the translucent clipper we're just going to leave it at that for now obvious enclosed is invested beyond the use you know obvious means of fatness fat oh this fat or in yiddish grub kite i don't like that word abram grub kite grub means fat kite wrestling grub kite means uh how would you say it you only grub kite no it's not just fat no it's it's earthliness or earthlings or um corporeality maybe corporeality what course course course yeah um since the drive is now is is is invested in in coarseness he's always looking to satiate and pleasure the body heathenism um and this is what the person is immersed in i really want to pleasure my body that's that's the concept of nefeshabami's in its potency used for stuyot now look what he says you see how look at the language and when the yates are horror male vicious the drive and it dresses it up mild beach it dresses it up islam that's when he starts descending god forbid medecine and no he's not drawn at all an indian sickly to any intellect anything intellectual it's just about pleasure and when you try to talk to them sense it it goes over their head it means nothing to them why because they've been they've become one piece of hedonism so but that happens when when the yate sahara takes the kayak and it dresses up the kayak and since the divine intent with creating the nephesh obama what's the purpose the purpose is that the nephesh obamish that was now dragged into ra by the yetzer should be refined hashem what we want is that this nephew shall who's so strong in lust and desire should slap itself out with its passion with its drive from the schmutz and say the same the same highest the same passion that i had for that cheeseburger and that disgusting movie and whatever i was doing and drinking in in the college the dorms i'm going to now use that hasidic fabregan to awaken my neshama and to love more hashem and dance for hashem and and thank hashem and when one will see that person they'll see this is a real nefesh obama's who has gone through transformation from the negative to the positive so it's not that you drop your passion you transform your passion and he says through learning torah became through missus and the rapper says and gives you either so we should get it lust for learning gloucester so here's the question how do i accomplish this into its stupidity and evil and you're telling me that the objective is that this nephesh obamish who's so full of passion to transform and learn and dominate and do misses with a passion the answer is that's where the nether shall the kiss kicks in that's when the shaman that hashem gave every year yet kicks in and whenever the kiss whenever um and since they're very opposites there has to be an intermediary you know rabbi uh grossman when he went into the nakhla shiva bars in yerushalayim right near mayor sharon right and he slept out people and he spoke to them right it's like and officially kiss how do they talk to each other you're in a bar the disco music is blasting that sneeze is is outrageous and rabbi grossman with his top hat and his frock and his beard is there and he wasn't there because he wanted to enjoy indulge about in the bar he was there because he wanted to slap out and elevate and because he was focused so although him they're opposites there needs to be a mamutsa in order to talk in order to get the nephesh of the kids to talk to each other you need an intermediary says going back to where we began in the beginning the intermediary mission that is able to uh do what we call negotiations peace negotiations is the nephesh of cichlids the intellectual rational soul it says hey if you drink too much you're going to get a disease and you're going to die and you're going to be on nothing so it keeps on clapping with seiko what do you want of your life you want to make something of your life or you want to be a a bar person and over and over and you explain and you use this muscle and you talk you know that ever told rabbi yaakov jj you know people would come to him going back to the 50s and 60s 70s and you know there was a post holocaust generation and a lot of the kids you know and you know were going through the the the 60s the counter culture revolution and there was boys and girls and eating and non-jews and there was a whole meshach a great um you know what's the word the assimilation arabic did wait on him you know so they came to him the mother the father rabbi help me my son wants to marry rabbi help me what do i do right and it weighed on him so he went to the river he had an open dialogue with the devil and he cried his heart out to trap he says it's overwhelming i don't know what to tell them and they ever set them like this keep on speaking keep on talking keep on explaining and you never know what the right word goes out from your mouth into the people that are listening and and and just uh several weeks ago pesach i was in hallandale for yomtif someone comes over to me who makes the announcement and reads after the the second minion i think and he actually reads it very loudly and it slowly explains it you know regular regular person not the rabbi and he says to me i have a letter that rabbi hecht wrote to my mother in 1983 82 when i went into the army a three-page letter where he you know he he he asks my mother all about me you know because my mother who knew him came to him and she was very concerned i'm going to the army what's going to be with with me as a jew so that's the type of person and issues that he dealt with throughout his lifetime and you know and at a certain point you know he saw how it was like you know all over and he said he went to the red and they ever said just keep on talking you you don't you don't play god you keep on explaining and feeling and crying and laughing and working with them and the abrasive will do his why do i say this that ever says here the nephesh obamas and efficiently kiss are opposite each other each one's going in a different direction you need the nephesh keep use use the seijo to explain and to talk and again over of course with a love and a scarves and a kirov but seijo is such an element to such an option that it it it kind of gives each side some slack right it it says the nephrogen bomb is listen you don't want to be an outrageous animal and a cuckoo because you're going to kill yourself and hurt yourself so let's let's let's talk about a way of minimizing your drinking let's only drink once a week instead of every day i don't know whatever you know and then efficiently kids say hey you're very holy you're very you know but you got to deal with the issue here how are we going to breathe so it it gives each one some recipe of thought to be able to deal the problem yes my shirtless is it on the same i guess i always thought that from learning we have the bahamas which is the drive of the body and the navigator piece which is which is the [Music] the element that wants to that goes into the body to um and and it is is is the driving force that we should use the body channel everything to serve kurdish bronco mitzvas etc so the question is the questions that never i'm still trying to understand i guess my question is i'm still trying to understand what is the new syqlis i i i'm still not understanding and i also don't understand i always pictured the nebuchadnezzar bahamas and then a little case is sort of on like a uh there's like the martial about the lathe that the tanyan talks about that that nefeshilokis is supposed to we're supposed to work and we're supposed to have the nephilim go and and and cover and sort of like you know um take over the heart so to speak as opposed to the opposite so you'll still to understand what what is in that vicious circus and where is it sort of located amongst the two amongst these other two okay what time is it now now it's 3 15. okay i would love to i'm going to explain tomorrow because i have another share of five minutes so i do have to get off i good question i'm gonna try to come up with another uh way of explaining it and uh hopefully it'll clarify it because uh it does need clarification um it needs clarification okay have a good day everyone zygozo take care bye