Maamar Az 1934 #7 Difference bet Ramchal Shleimus HaAdam and Bitul HaAdam - Stop w Excuses

so good morning we're we're on page 186 um we're in the middle of wait a second no no sorry we're on page 188 and the we're discussing this uh possible that ever brought here from based on the possibility which is um rise to yourself my friend my wife my sustenance your fossee my beauty look yourself then he quotes the madras on that verse [Music] the daughter one interpretation of avraham avinu and he says and he recites from and he explains that there is a fossil is my my sustainer because through taylor which is staying according to me he brings that verse the torah is called bread and mitzvahs are called levushrom garments which makes a person look beautiful yafasi um but i do want to go back because jakob and i had a um a midnight discussion last night i had to be up for a late zoom and pumped at that time yaakov sent me a uh important note so for clarity purposes and for the record it should be on the public notice i want to just for a moment talk about it um on page 186 the beginning of the last chapter look what the rabbit says the meaning of truth is not the way the world thinks what that it means the true who he iraq aldr the world thinks and just translating the words that truva is just for transgression and the rebbe elaborates and he says no truva is also if someone did not transgress so much what do you need to do true for and that ever brings briefly here in the altar says that you need to return the word chuva means toshov you need to return to your very self somehow when i was talking about it uh yaakov said that i used the word slamus shlaimut means perfection completion and then i brought an example from the concept of reincarnation and maybe i didn't specify it well enough so i'll do that now i i'm bringing an example from a concept in reincarnation which deals with flamos to the discussion at hand which is chuva we're not talking here about shalamus i said that we see by reincarnation the pastors if you ask a person why why is there a concept of reincarnation of guild gulem gilgal the the the simple answer even according to the arizona is to forgive to find forgiveness for something we did wrong so we come back a second time what i said in this year yesterday was that there's another meaning to gulem which is even if you didn't transgress you your nostromo needs to come back a second time to be muslim to complete what it didn't get a chance to do the first time around and i gave an example of a mitzvah of the mitzvahs of the kahanam if we're all supposed to do all 613 mitzvahs had a mixes of etc of of kings applied to us et cetera et cetera and arizona talks about that and we spoke a little bit about it and i don't want to go into that discussion now the point being that there is an idea to to to to to gil gulim that is in addition to a gilgal being a tickle for navera there's a second idea of gilgal being not a t not a tickle for an aveda to complete you you did everything fine the first time round except you didn't get a chance to do this mitzvah that mitzvah which didn't really apply to you right just like i'm sure in basement in the borough park they have notices in the shoes if you want to be making the midsole call this number and then they'll tell you it costs five hundred dollars and you could be with them but does the normal person the average person have a chance to do sulu no so some people somehow know where there's a where there's a nest and where there's a mother and to send it away and you could do the mitzvah knew and it made maybe out hour in the summer came back again to do the mitzvah because the first time we didn't do it and when we do that mitzvah we're being muslim we're completing our neshama so i used that as an example for the concept of truva and what did i say and what what what i believe what the frida kadab is saying i'm just elaborating on his words that teshuva as a as a mode of for tickle for transgression is the average way people interpret it and that ever says that's not the real meaning of truva that's part of juva but it's not all of truvo or better said it's not the real truther what's the real truth the real truth is returning and i said that that's not the way it's understood and talked about in the yeshiva world that's all i said that's all i said didn't and and maybe the word flamers came in and if it did it was a slip because that wasn't what i meant over there because yaakov brought from hal and by the way i am aware of that because i spoke to my rebbe my maspea once about it and and i fact cited in the book because it was very unique you can't may have heard of foolish lamba i asked him once what he thought about the writings of because he's you know he's a teacher and genius and um you know and and you know he didn't uh teach us about how that wasn't part of the teaching whatever but how can you not uh i mean you know so i once asked him and and and you know what he told me yakov he told me that what he [ __ ] he didn't really learn he said you know when he says he didn't really learn it you have to understand what that means it doesn't mean he didn't look at ramkhala and probably looked at the whole thing and remembered the whole thing word for word almost because he's a genius that's not what he meant he meant that he didn't give the eon the depth that he gave to studying that that's what what he meant i believe anyway so i said to him so what what do you say he says mentions slamus and it's about flames so when he he told me years ago so i am very aware that and i believe that my red regular bureau said that he knows what he's talking about probably better than anyone else who learned from kyle but anyway don't quote me maybe there's someone else better than him okay but but the idea of slammers i'm very aware of but that's not what i was talking about so yaakov well i didn't get a chance to die that because i had to continue i had to go to sleep so i can get up in the morning to the sheer the idea of chuva as meaning of hay returning your neshama to its essence is not because of slaves now you see now i'm going a step further i'm i i'm not arguing i'm i'm sharing with you that teaches us the idea of toshifei is not with such lameness you know why now listen to this because flameless perfection and completion is still associated with i or in hasidic terminology with yesh now you're probably asking yourself wait a minute the ramphouse speaks about slamos slain muslims how can i say that it's still i again here when you when you learn these ideas whether it's or this area of titan there's a rule i should have maybe said it and i said it to the guys years ago but it's worth repeating because i don't believe you heard it yaakov the rule is everything is relative einstein's einstein's theory of relativity is a very integral part of chabad hasidis in hebrew we call it it's an [Music] it's relative in other words we can discuss an issue in one in and it has one meaning in one context and when we discuss it in another area it has a totally different meaning it's relative it's yakasi it depends in which context it's being discussed and therefore i say the same thing when we talk about the the the summer returning to its essence versus the concept of slaymus and i share with you that slamus is still associated with the i it's in the it's in the context of a comparison to tosh of hay as the alternate talks about it in chapter four together if you take the ram khao on its own schlemos is the ultimate connection but if you put the house level and in other words this is the way khabar understands it others might understand it differently the way khabar understand is the following way how nor did he have to be but nevertheless is a is is a different dog a different emphasis what's taylor sabal tennis total obliteration of any kind of existence and entity and concept including slamus because slamus already means that i am important and that i need to exist and and and the i is a central figure of slain says there's something even deeper where there's the eye is totally obliterated to in any way shape or form and all you are is god's chariot so if god decides that the charity should move it moves so slain us according to the way sydney sees is not the ultimate it's gevaldic it's what we call in habakkuk you heard the term means manifestation interpretation and very important but not essence now if you ask a student of of of ram they they you know they'll tell you probably i disagree and they'll say i disagree but the truth is did they study teres of ascentive to be able to compare both of the ideas and both are titus emis it depends what are we talking about we're talking about the slain sheba of them or we took talking about the beetle shepherd adam so in chabad the emphasis is on the bittershave of them and how the emphasis is on the slaves of them i just wanted to get that off my plate and have it recorded because it's a very important point in my book on rabbi hutner and which i'd love to give you some time yaakov i speak about four different ideologies one is slobodka which was you know covered or they ill better they use the word godless godless greatness of man one is the vardhik which was uh right minimizing man and then i speak about ram khao which is adam and finally habakkuk which is i mean i don't you know and i don't spend 20 pages on it but i do go through that all artists ms all are [ __ ] but they're different [ __ ] and therefore when you saw the slap get bachelor in europe and it would be this way today i don't know how it's an architectural slab vodka but in the way it was they were all clean shaven with ties pressed shirts pressed suits clean polished shoes and those that wore hats spotless hats you take a look at hasidic bakarim from bells bhavath to khabad all kinds of city overall they're not as clean okay that that's that's because that was not the emphasis it's too different you take a look at the vardic there they were into some practices that we would look at this very strange and funny like going into a grocery store and asking do you have a pound of nails to sell sell that's the famous uh word the joke that they say meaning they they they look to humiliate themselves to humble themselves that they were nothing right no other so and that slave wasn't a bit less we discussed it's four different mahalhim i mentioned this once to um acknowledge and and and who who really is you know smart and knowledgeable and he said i never had heard it put that way he said you should write a whole paper on this because this is a very important you know the four different aspects you know i don't i don't feel i'm still ready to to do that because you really have to be a student of ram to understand better which i am not uh yet there but um as a kuda i think this this this is a a general a generalization a generalization yakult do you do you want to say something on this well i know that what i'm what i the question i did have in mind is still speaking on a different level than what you're speaking on but i'm going to try it out anyway go ahead if you're if you but but the kitchen because i want to get into the [ __ ] if the idea is toshit hey returning us to hashem i'm thinking that as we know there are different um ancient for for uh for vegas right the worst is currents yeah so the only way to make hypercars is mesa okay you have no chance to be that's the only way you're good whenever there's need to cover that way that's the way it goes so if the true has to be so complete then there's no when you come back you're only coming back as a google you're not coming back that child is not as you are here it's done you finished the question yes the answer is with a reference for you because i cannot get into it the answer is the altarebe in chapter one of aguero satuva are read already i believe indirectly addresses your question so i'm giving you homework get a hold of chapter one in in hebrew and also in english lessons in tanya listen to a share online and then we'll discuss it okay it's it's a it's a very good question there's not what what yaakov asked is is a very powerful question and i believe the altered response to it and it gets achieved okay um uh heaven did you yo you're innocent and yoni did you you follow what i i think i was clear i i yeah yeah you're innocent you want to say something we don't hear you uh one clear i never heard that before about the four cities so for me it's new but i was burning many involvements [Music] by uh by the mcnugget issue and it's worth learning his swot him if you have a chance and anyone that that pooh-poohs that is very foolish very foolish um you know he was an italian a kubo and a great a great great sadiq and and his writings are tremendous yes malaysia i just want to say that um my wife has a distant cousin and a person who's um older i mean older than you who learned in the in the diaspora yeah um you know like really in the heyday yeah and um like he's he's really into muslim and it's interesting he really had worked on this and he learned the roomhall like a lot it was just interesting because like definitely i see the difference in the sheets from interaction with him you know it's it's interesting and you know i think you all would agree that at the end of the day what do we really sink our teeth into what we feel comfortable with for one person it's muslim find another person see this for third person gemara so as long as you learn and and you and you and you willing to hear another person's learning there's there's tighter in everything and that's it okay i don't want to go into that now but i'm just saying you know yeah so for some people moshe musa doesn't touch them and there are other people that thrive on muslim and then yaakov and i have had many discussions about that and caller kavod you know you know for per and just for the record do you know that the early laboratory 150 years ago learned musser and they look they learned muslims it's brought but but but the emphasis was see this you know but i'm just saying that um and that's it and and um everyone should this is everyone should should explore and explore and and and come to a place where a certain mahalak talks to them and they implement it you know that's it it's not a competition here this is not competition the same thing you know moisture you and i we spoke once about someone yerushalayim i told you a story you followed up you know who who started to identify and lit the show with with the siddha shireb and you asked me about it and i told you that you know this is touching his neshama at this point go figure you know the fact that he learned and lit yeshiva's all his life so what now he's 75 years old and and and he has a he met someone that he identifies with and the fact that he's a hasidis and he immerses himself in that so be it and if someone does the opposite you know he he went from siddhis and he went to to to literature and he went to musser and it happened anyone that tells you didn't happen it doesn't happen so much today but it happened in europe are you kidding rabbi rudeman of baltimore he comes from a a real above at your home a real above at your home and until 11 or 15 he was a little barbecue boy i wrote about it in my book you know um i don't know if neither sure is going to like what i wrote but that's the facts and i s and i show rabbi rudeman remembered the mind that the rebel ashab said in 1911 on rosh hashanah he remembered the opening verse of the mimer he says i was there in lubavitch with his father okay and he carried around a tanya rabbi wrote him and carried a tanya in his pocket a little tanya and when they asked him about it so he would he would say rabbi rudeman tanya in your pocket he would say yeah it has large letters not you understand that was just to get them off his back he carried it down because he believed that the alternate was a big sodic and this can help him spiritually you know what i'm but he became a literature there's no question about it he changed his musa right and he and he wasn't pushing considers to say the least those that know about nerius role right but it it's so he went from being a liberator boy growing up in a barbecue home with parents and grandparents who followed chabad right to becoming a lit fish a lit fish it he's not the only one you know i'm just pointing out to someone that everyone knows about you know so it's what talks to you well you know and then they argue well he went to slovak and isla you know the outer slobotka you know basically told everyone to drop all that hasidic stuff and just state to the gemara and muslim which i'm not sure is true i don't think it is true definitely not you see so you know i wasn't there and i don't i don't believe that for whatever reason you know rabbi rabbi gifter i wrote about him and tells right hammer gifter spoke publicly he said the khaburra of la babachi bacharam that we had in tells in 1937-38 when he came from america to tell us to learn he says they were phenomenal he says we were blown away by these the year of shamayim of these bukharim okay so he so but he didn't become a husset and he had issues definitely with with khabad and there have been some issues you know but one has nothing to do with the other you know and we don't think this way everyone is you know it's like tunnel vision tunnel thinking it it has if he disagrees with here that means he agrees disagrees with everything that's wrong okay that was a fabregan we got to get to the text so let's go back now to 188 the last thing that they've ever said the last two things there ever said was that in order to to experience rise to yourself to get to your essence yoni that ever says you have to recognize the problem and i decided at the end of this year the hyundai from i think last friday where or thursday the wednesday one of those days the rabbit says there that if you don't recognize the mahler you can't have you won't have a reform if you don't know what the illness is the reform is not doesn't necessarily apply when we learn citizens surely when we learn worcester it identifies the problem not to rub it in but to be cognizant and aware of what the issue in particular you have to deal with here this mimer where he's he he speaks about getting to your essence to overcome overcome he says what do i have to overcome this is on page 187 towards the bottom so he says there are three things one is the natural tendency of our uh body of our of of ourselves to gravitate towards material corporeal matter typhus lusts and all of that that's that's like a a basic 101 then he goes on to 182 188 and he says the second thing is this is are now on the fourth line the habes let's learn from that the fourth line the fourth word on 188. the second issue that we need to overcome is habits a man is bound to to certain habits [Applause] there are some habits that by nature they're no good and even bad kamoi beregilus hasheker lying some people have a habit of lying bragging but the ferris the very aspect of a habit is also problematic in other words you have to move away avi from habits and i and here too i point out to you the way hasidis understands this idea even if you have a good habit if it's a habit it's not the best you have to transcend habit you it has to be like it's not a habit and i do it anyway in other words i don't do it because it's habitual i get up in the morning and i put on my my and i get myself dressed and i go into shoe and i can say ashrae in my sleep ashley that's no good what i'm saying archery of course you're saying ashrae but it's habitual it's not ashley you are fortunate yo shrey those that sit in your house who's sitting in which house am i in moisture now is in the house in chicago usually it's in a house in in in chemist what's the difference why am i here where am i going that's a different ashrae that's not habitual ashrae that's transcendent ashrae so that's what that ever means here that even the hat the the habit itself even if it isn't bad like gossiping and bragging and all of that needs to be you need to transcend and go beyond habit and more specifically if you're bound to he says that prevents you from understanding properly the issue and serving hashem more specifically people get tied to a habit and you know what they say and what do we say i can't untie myself so that ever says if you if you and again even if it's a good habit but it's one that you've become so connected to you need to unwind and untie yourself from that habit point number three that we need to forsake to reach the place within ourselves that's our essence the third is understanding oneself then no then first conducting oneself according to one's understanding hey binyani limu i'll tell you that whether it be regarding the study of toyota from the mitsubishi bazaar is conduct in these matters who if we have a nursery it's based if it's based on his understanding she pointed at that way he excuses himself malibu because i cannot learn every day i have to run to work i got to take my kids to the bus i got to make the train to tel aviv he has his justifications his rationalizations why his work is more important than his learning of the kingdom i mentioned when it comes to doing mrs gamke make allah he's leaning to himself becoming your name he understands that he can be lenient yes wait stop so this is point number three point number three is using your mind to justify your behavior and excuses always coming up with excuses why you are justified in delaying learning and mitzvahs and on and on four okay no this is part of three but yes there are such people i said what i'm saying things that they don't understand and don't know the whole developer claims and then ever says the truth is you don't know anything about a subject if you haven't studied it it goes back yakov to what we said before you know i'm calling different things so when you point it out to me if i take your constructive criticism if i'm not an expert and i'm how you know be careful what you say about i'm how if you're not an expert in tomorrow be careful what you say doesn't mean you know be respectful of someone who is and listen so that ever says so to hear if you haven't studied the subject matter yay and the rabbit says you need to study a subject matter to be considered a maven like maisha he studied the halachas of saphrus and therefore he's an opinion sayer on that is he the ultimate ask him but but the point is you have to study the subject you haven't studied if you don't study you don't know me come okay nevertheless these people based on their nature it appears to them shame um i know it already and i'm conducting i know it you know i know it i know i know i i know what to do you know don't tell me says that gimmel in your name these three attitudes following your nephesh obama as your tigers following your habits and following your justification hey my name is they are a blockage for serving hashem properly so he's identified now the issue and the issue we all have in a certain way now that we know what the issue is we'll be able the next chapter to creep out of the issue that's what he's done to the last half of this paragraph any questions rabbi yes i didn't want the translation on about four lines up it starts with the that to this person his job his excuses are more important are more important than study than learning tata he justifies what so his excuses are more important okay everyone yes yes no when you talk about that governing government for their something so you have to do it every day you have to do with the minions but on the other hand you have to try to get out of that as well you have to get out of what out of diving with a minion [Music] and now you're touching upon now now you're creeping under the surface which is good so how do you do it how do you do it you start with the minion and you come before i had a receiver he used to come nine o'clock to the shule and start davening at his own pace so by the time dominion hits monastery he was with them because he was the love of the shule that's how you do it even even that temperatures even that's become what happened habit okay then um what you should do is come 8 30. in other words somehow break your nature break your nature what you know what i'm saying and and you're assumed if you're doing that and you feel you you you you you need the his bondings the meditation and the reflection and it go and you don't end up daving the rebel would always bring uh their abhayan brisker about what the mitzvoth feel is which is davening to hashem even without a minion according to the khayyam although he doesn't ask it's a whole question but he definitely says that you know um so now exactly lebron says that so according to the brian's understanding of the rambam what the mitzou feel is that's wheeler again i'm not saying that would pass in that that's a whole other uh discussion and analysis but that he says that and that's it's open for discussion what are we what are what they're ever sites of cayenne and wasn't a husset right what what is he citing that to show you that if you need for your davening this cure their effort seems to imply that's acceptable and that's breaking a habit you know i i i've gotten you know when i was you know you know i when i was younger i would i would doubt them you know at my own pace and and quite long and all that as i got older for whatever reason i try making dominion and and it's a struggle this morning the guys of the about the battlefield is flying and i'm trying to say the words and yet i want to i want to i want to say this ministry with the baltrila you know so for me it's like breaking the habit that i'm into now which is governing this dish by nasa with with the balcony so what do you do do you compromise on the on the under on the clarity of saying the words and thinking of their meaning versus standing someone astray so everyone has their uh way of creeping out of habits the main thing is to be cognizant of it so the factoring isn't that you're even asking that itself shows that you're on the path of breaking a habit i'm not i'm not saying that to you know to make you feel good you know i'm just saying bamas that's what toyota wants taylor wants a person should feel and be cognizant that i need to think about it and do something about it however i have another share have a good day zygos until tomorrow bye