Love: Two types, Ecstasy isn't infatuation, average person's love - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin

T we are on page B and now we're about to begin's thesis for AEM what is AA when is AA how is AA all the details about AA hasem is in in this the next six chapters so let's begin the answer to the question What's Love Got to Do With It uh I hope so I hope so but here we talking about real real love you're going to get you're going to see what real love is and then you'll ask a whole question and you'll have an answer to the question anyway so we're on page s b it's the uh Fifth Line from the top uh after the period on the line says in there's also two levels since he already mentioned in until here in chapter 43 there's two levels in again and first he explains the lower now the Y the higher level now he talks about AA and why because without abem you're missing a wing remember what we learned in chapter 40 from in the name of the zes they're the two wings that make the bird sore so if you have only one Wing it's like you have uh I don't know if it's a good comparison one engine and a plane which is really uh you can't fly it's dangerous and all that even two but at least in this case when you have the mode of AA and the mod of Y then your MIT Torah Mitzvah can SAR on high that's a quote from Z so the zor is informing us you want to know whether or not your T mitzvas goes to the right place and even Soares up to the right place you have to have a hence Del is telling us the potential ban every Jew you must invest time in developing awe and love for God you cannot just do the Mitzvah which again as we learned in 41 and 42 Kil is the found true but if you stop at and you know better and we do all know better then we're lacking we're lacking since we know better and we know that we need the ter Mitzvah to be placed in the right chamber for you m it's one chamber for Hill it's another for for is and myself it's other you can't just say we're all doing aan year the same way it doesn't work that way we all have different feelings we have all different backgrounds we have different ways we think we have different different Developmental and biological issues and all of that and therefore there's a lot of differences so everyone has to look at these things as an individual so now says therefore let me tell you about AA that in AA there's also two two details and he says let's continue what are they called right now he says they're called a which means great love or abundant love and number two and worldly love and let me say right here that there's two interpretation of abas AAS can either mean eternal love or it can mean a love that comes from the perception of the world how does the world perceive God and subsequently have love for God that's one interpretation another meaning of the word means forever Eternal eternity is not explaining the abas from the idea being Eternal that's not the way he's going to explain it over here for whatever reason else where he explains it that way in the context that it's discussed over there but in this context means the love that comes from the world brief briefly before we learn inside the difference between the two yes Whoever has an iPad please mute yourself I'm in the class can call back in a half hour Masha please Masha mute yourself so the the the theas means we are we're in the world and we're impacted by the world and therefore we have feelings that come from this impact so from our impact from the world that we're in we still understand that God is the Creator and God has made me and God helps me and therefore I have a feeling and love for you right when you do so some someone does something for us that's nice and positive and important we love them we like them we care for them so too the fact that Hashem gives us and in the morning we wake up and we're able to go to sh and to D and to learn and to do Mitzvah and to go to work we say thank you Hashem that's called a that's a love that's generated from the world from the from us being part of the world hence the love is limited how is it limited because depending on your experience and your your worldly experience and the worldly impact on you that's how much love you have okay conversely the first level of Love AA abundant love great love that is something of a different category and as the AL will say in a moment it's a gift and it's a gift that you do not earn you can't create the gift it's given to you but if for some reason it's given to you you are in a state of ecstasy and you're not yearning for something it's an automatic ecstasy feeling that you've been gifted understandably most people don't have this definitely not on a constant regular Bas and basis and even seldom it's it's just not it's not in the cards because we are products of this world as we live the world and everything's filtered through our world perception so when we hear on the news ABC or one of our kids or grandkids tells us about what's going on in Gaza or or in the north and all that right it's all a worldly knowledge it makes an impact imagine someone who's not fathomed at all and by the by the the the occurrences of worldly experience it's very seldom do you find that and I don't mean not fathomed in the way that the person's cold and apathetic and says I don't care you know I'm sitting in my little Hubble May or ra over there sorry and uh the hell the hell with everyone else no I don't mean that that's that's pure wrong right no I mean to say the person says I I do care I do care but not because I was told on the news or my friend told me or it's because God Hashem who's the creator of the world is is now in a in in a state of ghost that bothers me in other words the the the the perspective is only God and this follows what we said before about Etc it's the occurrences of the world don't make me the occurrences of the world don't make me any closer or any further from God do you hear that I want you to use your head this deep stuff it doesn't make it doesn't make me any closer closer to Hashem you see when we become closer to Hashem or further for hasem because of what takes place in the world then our entire filter system is generated by the world not [Music] by now although most of the time we are in this mode and most of the time the ban that's their exper his his or her experience that's true and therefore they still develop a feeling for God an AA but it's a it's a worldly love it's a measured love it's a limited love is he is briefly because I want to learn inside what I just yeah I don't know if it's for today or not but but these terms we have a we have a distinction in the between Shas and and right and if you could touch on what we're supposed to appreciate and think between the two differences it doesn't have to be today but I'm teing up the question okay very good very good and I'm glad you in my preparing the shear I I came across some some verbiage about that and I'm glad you reminded me but not now b b we will we will do that also right again according to certain in in kabad it's not that way right in kabad I believe it's the same for shakras and and marif but for in others it's there's a difference but but if and when I explain it to you H I'm not going to be justifying all the different and and and that's that's that's it's beyond me at this point you know um that's for the rebba you know maybe the Reb doesn't one of the I could ask around on shabas but the overall idea the difference between and and why and why it's in the text uh you know that maybe we could talk about but not right now let's go on before we go further is this clear the difference between a and because if it's not we can't go further because everything is built on on on the previous idea so if you have a question about a aaba and ask me now yes M yeah just you said that is let's unlimited was more limited but I got the impression you said that AB is the lower level no ABAB is the higher level okay the higher level okay absolutely okay it's not generated by man it's a gift that God gives man okay let's look inside now so first drb explains what is you make a period there you stop there he's going to make three points now about a the difference between a and a number one a love of delights what does that mean what does it mean a love of delights you know what it means normally in love you know you're yearning for something I love you I want you I need you that's a yearning a longing is what we call the love of exstasy you're not loving for anything you are in the mode of ecstasy when you experience pleasure it's at the moment of pleasure it's not like I'm loving for pleasure you are in pleasure so Dr says it is another name for it that that say it's called in other and different places a love with with delight meaning a love of delights a love of pleasure which doesn't seek to attain Ain love but it is in love in English we use the word you're in a state of ecstasy in the state of you're not in a state of ecstasy you desire ecstasy you long ecstasy you want ecstasy fine but you're not in ecstasy number two let's go to the next line the second point is it is a flame that ascends from it on its own it comes from above as a gift only to someone who's already complete in their fear of God and their a of God as explained earlier Saye it is the style it is the method of man of the male to chase a woman let's let's say it in the vernacular right right a guy chases the girl a man chases the woman love is symbolized by is is male represents love and M okay so with a a under the what does that word mean remember my kindness what if you change from the under the to the it's Z doesn't mean memory you know what Z means only male a we we sometimes say it fast we say Z no it's wrong Z doesn't mean male Zar means memory to remember Z with a what's the difference in cabalistic what shom shom what's the difference Z is z is which is kindness and love and you follow continuing the ISA and the woman in the py right it says is it's the style of is of the male is to chase after after the woman after the is and so the AL explains here that first of all is represents a what about is is represents or of God as it's known without going into it Isa represents y so now let's go back it is the style of one second it's the style of to chase to run after Isha it's the style of AA to come only after you have the ISA you male who's All About Love you're incomplete if you don't have the female hence chase the female what is the female the female is Y which we learned about until here so that's what says look now further just one second I'll get to you in a moment and without prefacing all E look at the words it is impossible you can't reach this AB right you can reach only you can reach AAS the lower level of AA but you can't reach because this now he speaks a little it comes from the world ofil and there he quotes the L Tam there there isn't there Tam means there there there in there is not separation and and and division God forbid whatso whatsoever what what you want to ask say what when the Al said that says why does he use the two different no no mean masine no no no because when he quotes the word is he's referring back to the used the word so he means that this word is in the is refers to a so so the is a is a defines what is is but is is the quote from the K do you follow or not no not not really because I the way that ends right ends with right in this is defined by is you're asking me is means don't know I don't know but I I think it's because I do know because the p he says right after Comm in the it doesn't say it say so therefore possibly I'm telling you possibly he adds the word Z we would have to see if the his father he he he he was the type to analyze such verbage in but let's that's thank you for the point let's go back now we talk about the lower level the love that comes from the world he number one it comes from the understanding by meditating and reflecting on the greatness of a God and he says pervades all worlds and God Isom worlds and number three there's nothing compared to God there's nothing everything is like and by the Nullification of one word he refers here to the mus that he gave that he quoted in chapter 20 21 the the one word coming from the soul this word while it's still in thought or even more Lev in the soul that's what it means when you meditate on this when the person meditates on the awesomess and greatness of God automatically the there'll be an extension of the person's love from its garments it'll come out of its garments and it'll be revealed the point being what's his point the point is that is different in the first point the first point of a is that it's a love of of ecstasy so says conversely the love of AAS isn't it's a love of coming because of meditation that means you're not there yet you want to be there but you're not there so you meditate on these thoughts how to develop Ecstasy but you're not in ecstasy so that's the first difference between a and and and and he continues explaining over here this idea of the love needing to come out of it garments you see the love initially is concealed in some physical or even spiritual pleasure you know right something turns you on to God that issue that turns you on either it's physical you see a you see a a m painting and you're moved to to to go and kiss the Torah youve to sit down and learn why it's so beautiful it's so moving right so that love where is it coming where is it invested in where is it meash enclothed in in his piece of art it's not so you need to understand art or you need to identify with that art and from there it comes from its dressed up State and it gets revealed says so this is comes from a dressed up state where you leave the dress up you leave the disguise and you come to the truth but where where are you you're you're in a dressed up State you're in a state of concealment you're in a state of struggling you're in a state of searching so yes you're searching for the truth but you're searching for the truth you're not in truth let's continue and and you don't want any of the dress up the pleasure that comes from the spiritual the physical you know the example I gave you that the the the famous mus that the Mel is going towards his P his chamber and people are walking be behind him is deputies and and MERS and one sees the room of Art and he goes in and never comes out cuz he's in love with the art the other one sees the room of riches he goes in the other one sees the room of um typography and the land layout and development and he goes in there and never comes out says the med there was one smart fellow a Pik and he said I don't want this and I don't want that I'm not making a right I'm not making a left I'm just following the king I don't know where he's going but I'm following him and then the King goes into his chamber and he comes into the chamber in other words the Fascinations of Judaism didn't distract him for the end result which is to be in to be in a state of ecstasy and this is very hard because a Fascination when you see Misha's wonderful uh uh drawings and and you're fascinated I was there we brought the K there once right it's it's beautiful it's pretty you don't want to leave well let's say what I've told you over and over you go to a faan I'm talking about with the rebel that F bran right I didn't want to go home my father didn't want to go home he has to get up 6: 7 in the morning to start work he don't want to go home but it's 1 2 in the morning he got to go home to get some sleep I don't want to go home I'm a G aen that feeling that feeling is a feeling of ecstasy that you you can experience but when you're not there you're struggling to be there you're um endeavoring to be there you're longing to be there so Al says here you should know that is not like a you are in the state of ecstasy you're searching and yearning and Desiring to get to a state of ecstasy and what does that mean so he says that means that the love should be unstripped from its clothing and to be revealed let's continue and he [Music] says you want to have the source of pleasure of all the pleasure all are are nullified before God there's no comparison whatsoever just as there's absolutely no comparison you know means everlasting life do we have now no everyone dies it says M comes after a certain stage there's going to be everlasting life do we understand it not really but do we do we feel it no but do we understand that there's such Aus if we believe in M the 13 principles of the and everything else we believe there'll be one day says here that the the search the Searcher the the person who is in mode appreciates and understands one so hence he wants to experience that during his lifetime now how is that possible the answer is when you're in a state of ecstasy even for just a moment that's a that's that's a feeling that is analogous that's similar to Everlasting everlasting life continue says Heaven I don't want anything that's ancillary to you but on Earth call my heart ceases to be out of this love my my rock my heart so in other words understands that all the all the spiritual pleasures and delights and all the things the Fascinations that are on Earth are only a mere glimpse of what the ultimate is and hence yearns to and he says let me experience that so it in a sense is saying that also understood the difference between and he wasn't he was at the time I guess when he said that in but he understood what is and hence he he he sought to have AB just finish one or two few lines what about someone whose soul is not invested in this garment any physical pleasure spiritual pleasure is addressing those of us or all of us when we're not so holy we're not in a spiritual state says you can also have and I think of this is this is like where he Taps into the the mindset of the ban you regular person we regular person who are not in I'm not even looking for the Fascinations of God we're looking for our own self-interest we can also experience that can inflame his heart like a flame of fire and a powerful flame top of next page 135 and a flame that will send to heaven now through the previous mentioned meditation and contemplation of God's greatness as it says earlier so will stop over here but is saying basically I don't want you to be disappointed by thinking oh you know I'll never have this opportunity because I'm just a regular fellow who uh just is making a mere living a living day to day says no if you meditate and you contemplate on the greatness of God the three aspects you will experience in your own life a flame that will ascend in other words is not small change okay you know you spoke about you know the bigger and the smaller this smaller is not small change we would have on a daily basis Hali you know when we talk about much when I said before the guy gets fascinated with the with the art and the riches and and the you know all the rooms in the in the palace that itself is a great thing in comparison to the king's chamber himself the King's Room the king himself it's small change but outside of that it's a great feeling says don't be depressed don't be upset and what you should really strive for is to get an feeling we'll continue tomorrow have a great day Z bye let's go thank you