Kuntres U'Maayan #40 Living with Transcendence

let's learn the kit sir good morning what do you know we got we got we we were at 373 we got 379 oh sorry okay 379 okay no we learned 379 and we we're holding at the kids are in 383 no no no no no no no wrong wrong wrong hold on no you're wrong no we're 373 i mean you're wrong we're on 373. yeah that's what i have yeah kitzer second paragraph has intellect coming from the cause of the tree of knowledge because of eating from it so they kiss it's a descent from the intellectual godly concepts the pusher to murkiness the high hayam of this world have shot us have gotten to the vm the removal of garments while the by prophets while they were prom prophesizing and the statement the gomorrah the stupidity the foolishness of the old venerable man helped him refers to a positive type of foolishness that's the exiting of the natural uh senses and this refers to a type of service to hashem shalom vadas that transcends logic that's called we give we call it uh foolishness let's continue painting base one question before you go ahead one question um the word mush kalos to go uh to go to yitzchak to bring the food to yitzcat he uses a word to describe that is my father will feel me is it no that's that's my muscles okay different different word this comes from this comes from shimush and this comes from seijo two different words okay okay clean yeah remember you know yesterday we were discussing the thing about what what the rep is talking about when he says meshuggah right yeah he's trying to explain so wasn't it wasn't it that the navy and they different review had different prophecies meaning certain navy spoke direct like moshe spoke directly to hashem and then a lot of the other beams spoke in a trance and other ones spoke in a dream so could the meshuga mean the trance thing it's like someone that's managed like in a trance he doesn't here he doesn't he doesn't discern between the two types of naviers that you're referring to and um it needs to it's a good question but i don't i don't believe siddhis gets into that at least in our shop here is not getting into it so we would have to first begin by looking into the first shim on tanakh and go from there but it's it's good that you point that out pedic base chapter two beta engine who page 373 to understand this further to elucidate it hashem made man straight proper um and because of the godly feeling that man was given he should have known and felt the truth if hashem makes you proper and right how all of a sudden do you make a u-turn a left turn extra call to vibe one should know the truth that which is that all goodness in the world is the ultimate is the spiritual good the loud has been miles at vegas and therefore one should ascend the ladder of cleaving bellicose the god of terrors in the state of midfield and furthermore and how one should know that the opposite of this good spiritual good is absolutely and all the different arguments of the yates that we mentioned before it's a very bad and bitter path and one should realize if you again if you're on if you're given a straight path you should realize that the convincing of the atari is a complete lie and evil the bad mistakes are according to them because really the truth is moisture man should have felt all this without a headache because of the godly feeling in him so from where comes the cause of saying hey you know where it comes from from that original sin that original sin of haiti it it's post creation right there was creation and then there was so the way man was created before haiti tadasa he was straight and pure and would have not conceded and been fooled by the yates or hera but once he tasted of what does that mean he tasted once he came in touch with within a place of god that allows itself to have free will i.e good and bad he enjoyed it and that's where he became not straight that's where he went off the path so this this is a general answer to a very philosophical general question how why is it parents us good people sometimes we have a child a grandchild a friend and all that and they they make a u-turn they make a left turn and you ask i'm so good so here's the answer don't feel guilty don't feel guilty it has to do with the hate eta now you should feel guilty if you know you're goofed up and you're messed up you know then you should but what i'm saying is today we all know people who are you know gordon and everything and kids at 10 11 12 13 don't want to be part of their parents tradition and you ask yourself where is this coming from so you say oh it has to do with the soul so another other word another word for has to do with the soul is the the haiti tainted the situation way back so what we're doing as parents as educators and as rabbis and all that what are we doing we're fighting against the current you see it's just the opposite of the way the way um we think sometimes we think that you know what's what's good and normal is the is the way it is and if we question why is it otherwise why did i get the surprise without ever saying here you have it totally wrong the the the challenge already began then it had once that was planted and man it's open sesame you understand heaven so this is something to think about let's continue yet [Music] with two youths should have said only with one youth because i'll say it hashem created man with two yates then there was the the the the um the potency [Music] of the feeling next page early key godliness dominated actually to the point where man adam did not feel natural senses or canal bishop as the morning he brought earlier says man's entire involvement was in intellectual ideas and publicity and what's popular that type of knowledge and interest did not interest men at all why because he was so overwhelmingly interested in godly ideas and godly feelings however what was created was just the opposite should not say partake of a hergish what dominated man from the moment of dayton das was the natural senses and that entire approach of nature and feeling good and all that that's primary heinous from that moment on man started to feel how good gosh this is withholding your timing with gosh with every natural and material matter physical matters who marcus feels very much [Music] it automatically causes him a lack of feeling of for godliness eliquid later to know the heartbeat of this you know what it says and that is showing him in the early writings it says to have the oil and the hazard at the same time you can't okay the best of both worlds is a fallacy you either are uh or either the fact that there's a manifestation and a one-second hero and a and a you know a facade it's a facade so that's re that's what the rashaba is saying here pre-hate the it was but doesn't mean that the there's no yates or her but the aids of her is not it's not inclination and the good inclination controlled and and and and directed the the the other yetzer post post hate is just the opposite the yetzer horror is the driving force before behind man yes hillel i was just gonna say that i would i'd say we should dive in for a do-over but i wouldn't be all that confident that i get it right the second time um again if you can reach a level of of pre-hate you'll be in good shape you know um that would be like my that would be like my korean passport that's right let's continue um and this is where this falliness the stupidity of the aids of horror comes into play because of the potency of feeling the senses and gosh me is he convinces himself more and more and fools himself and he keeps on going lower and lower and he's not making a real husband he says he's making a husband but it's baloney it's the husband the way he wants to make the hajj bin you understand negative side is below dos he convinced himself it's das but it's not it's stupidity what's contrary to that who has to stick it's to act with a silliness within holiness that's also a behavior that's not logical that's in transcendence so you do something in your life you do something that's not understood by others okay like in the 1940s when my rebbe told me he came back from a torch poland he went to learn in the bavarian achievement two and a half weeks later he he had to escape with his friends because the warwick broke out on september 139 but meanwhile he was there already a year or so so he started to grow a beard this is a brooklyn boy from teravadas no one wore a beard if you wore a beard you were a weirdo a rabbi maybe wore a half a beard you know a shrimp beard and he comes back and he's walking in the streets and the cars are honking their horns because they see a goat walking in the street that's what he told us so just at it at that time was just but he he was he was convinced and he didn't anyone against his parents and against the community and later on it became so popular people wear beards so what i'm saying is the there's an act of stuss the natural phenomenon is in 1940s a young man who wants to get married and normal people who want to have jobs don't wear beards otherwise you're not getting a job and you're not getting you know a good trigger and all that and he says i don't care i'm doing this it's a sticky douche that's what i'm just trying to bring a concrete example of douchea and there's so many other yes hillary you want to say something yeah i just when i was first be coming from yeah i i had a i had a meal in the home of uh uh of urbi at not turbodas um berlin balloon his name was brock bro one of the things brown brown or broccoli okay fine man i i got to know him a little bit and um a friend who was a talent of his and but he was describing to me how difficult it was when he was dating to find a woman who would agree to cover her hair oh yeah yeah so like the opposite side yeah yeah and my mother and my mother-in-law and and all those women for the 50s and 60s the rebber paid them to wear a shaytal and to buy a shaytal and a pretty shadow because the rubber was of the the rebel was the opinion you should wear a shadow outside not a tickle that was the red you know the kleisenberg the satmir the belzer they disagree you know but but the the rabbit shooter was so and no one was wearing shayta i mean it was and these were from girls you know and so the rabbit the rebels told robert club the secretariat give the money and and not just for a cheap rag pay for an eyeshadow so these are examples yes this is another example of of doing something in in a culture when it was it was uh a shock a shock to the system and the same is today this is in the 50s and 60s and what you said and what i said etc but even today in various ways you know uh a yi this is the whole thing by the way it's interesting we're learning this and basil agani the yard side is shabbos this is the whole theme of basilagani there's two stigducer now again we have to be very careful you know the line between is a very thin narrow line you know you know it's a very thin narrow line but but it's it's an accomplishment to to go with the gducha sometimes and that's the only way you break through and later you look back you you say if i had to do it again i wouldn't do this way and even if i tried doing it i would never accomplish it and that's also true because there is that moment remember what we spoke about many times ace watson the auspicious time capture the moment seize the moment and don't allow your cycle to intervene because seijo is going to cool it down and be an impediment so just go for it you don't have to tell anybody you know sometimes your people will laugh at you your own family your own family will laugh at you and not understand you criticize don't tell them don't tell them do what you feel is to stigducha and later on they will jump on the bandwagon if they will they won't it makes no difference you know in your heart of hearts that your action was to stick douchea okay and and and it's not this is simply said but it's a heart of leader it's a very difficult thing to jump in to to go beyond you know like i say to the young people with the shidduchim you got to jump in and people don't want to jump in they want to calculate the the should have seen has become a a calculated game of of back and forth we've lost the the jumping in art of the leap of faith and that's why we have a whole problem with tradition yes you're saying there's no algorithm for it correct correct so i'm just sure i spoke a little extra because to to show that is not something in the past is today and tomorrow so remember that you know i'm making a move sometimes you don't know where to move and you want to move you have a sense that you know if i go there my muscle will be better and things would better but someone's could you prove it could you explain it no i can't but i have a gut feeling maybe that's an example of douchea you don't have the rational intellectual support to to to back that move but in your gut feeling you feel this is again without hurting other people if you do that and you your wife and kids are going to be hurt because of the education because of this because that then then it's not just because you're not you're not you're doing something that's not just involves you involves them and you're hurting them so when i spoke earlier about this it's something about yourself without hurting anyone else okay enough said let's continue inside and he says something that is not based on natural senses of the eighth hadas good and bad and it's also not normal sanctity normally holiness it doesn't enter at all accountability al piatas you make a calculation oh if i put this much in this is the amount i'm going to get out of it he does everything from a position yoni within himself that's transcendent let's go fight okay there's two types of levels and souls there's much of what we call the revealed soul powers which which have two aspects intellect and emotions the second type of soul who eats him it's the essence of the soul that transcends logic what type of neshama was revealed by other harishon and what type of the shrama was be his gabrut was dominating by him before they sinned shall he call the universe to the point that all his interest was see searching and analyzing godliness that kanye from what we call the intellect of the godly soul by other mauritian pre-hate the intellect of the godly son was very powerful there's also souls post sin next they didn't descend so low as we say in english they never landed and they never landed jonasin you look at there was some eden and crown eyes that we knew that you spoke to them they barely answered you you looked at them they never landed in america i say to my father you know on one hand he landed you know he you know he built a family and a business and all that but on the other hand he's so european canada is 83 he's one piece of romania as it stands today like from 1940s 30s and 40s he never landed my you know my swear also in a way you know i'm saying so this is what he said that was saying this as a milo well let's say you grew up in chicago you grew up you grew up there it's like you know some of us live more with the past we are the past everything else is an adjunct to who we are so we have to fit it in into the puzzle but who are we we're really the past then there are those that really are the present and then there are those that are really of the future so this is you know interesting to look at you know and and that and that should explain why certain things er because this way certain things make us happy this way you know some have the love for nostalgia some have the love for you know um antiques some hate that they want a shoe to be modern right you know i love going into a school that's the way it was a hundred years ago and some people don't care for that they say it's disgusting let's redo it you know different types so the rabbit says here that other mauritian before the sin his entire mind was a dominated by the the sacral of the nephrologists by the intellect of the godly soul and therefore what was his interest intellectualism um these souls that even after the hate they never really landed they always have an interest in godly concepts of zeko is contaminated and this is their entire asic involvement the word shayochem again i emphasize they're not not only aren't they associated practically they're not able to be associated they don't have the tools because their dna is such that doesn't relate doesn't relate to other aspects post post um sin there are people that are cold-blooded they don't care about a good steak and they don't care about uh you know all the other typhus it doesn't turn them on at all nothing nothing they're interested in one thing intellect thought right you can't say that they are the way other marijuana was pre-sin because at the end of the day they're living in a post-sin situation other marijuana sin had no sense of senses you know that wasn't at all in the cards nevertheless even but these people even though they're living post sin they don't have so much they don't have such a great admiration and appreciation for the worldly natural phenomenon these type of people do not bend and are not inclined to the nonsense of the eight sahara and they're in in their in their and the convincing arguments and they know and comprehend the truth they know the score and they know when when something's coming from the bad side he hates the horror side and they they can smell very well the situation hashem from creation may gave man a godly feeling from this perspective man should know that the good the best thing for him and that the convincing of the eights lies and evil um the natural phenomena comes because of allowing men to listen to the foolishness argue and convincingly sahara shalom with us that's below logic that's worse than logic it makes no sense at the end of the day because it's harmful to you as a jew uh so there ever says that the idea of dusha the silliness of holiness within holiness is transcendence la my limit does one minute one minute hey lucia enough they are those that even in today's situation post the light of the godly soul dominates in them and therefore they don't gravitate towards him yes johnson let me explain to tell you that idea keep the slippery like a shell so when you go to shelf protecting the egg the shell is completely compared to the bad thing and the egg inside the conventional good thing so i got my issue before the city would look up and see the shell mix with the egg was separated it was more like an intellectual experience you didn't know what it meant when he took the the egg when he went and the shell and the egg became mixed together very well said correct that's brought and it's very important there's what we call urav tovara the mixture of bad and good to the point is itaka don't know are there shells in this egg or not so you're at the kidney shop as an aged coder short the karol bakshi lord khabad wherever you're diving and you have some ex salads it's a challenge right that's that's just a wake the world we live in remember there's a mixture here be very careful let's continue guys 379. my methods so these people who still have they have a remnant of the godly soul that shines in them and is revealed the yes lambdas vasabilicus and they have comprehension of godliness for he can shame bali aveda and the main thing is that they work on themselves they're always searching it's not that they're just intellectuals and godliness and the shambali avoided the previous making a point they work it's not just a flute and tooting you know exercise at harvard or colombia or cambridge no these are person people who take this godly information and they use it and avoid this hashem i should make called what does that mean that ever says i should be called over our saga from every intellectual thought yes this is my ship brawn in action they take it and they want to do something with it not just to learn ideas and it's very exciting and it means nothing garnished they want they they they make of it to alice by avoiding a boy we're learning deep seed is great now tell me how do we take this deep see this in my studio in my in my kitchen at the baseball game on the streets fahrenheim is god and they and they work on this to a point with a godly feeling dominates al-hidhivi over the natural feeling the lies who will vaccinate you they come up with creative innovations about man skipped the parenthesis but miles min anushi the virtue of man over tacos by the australian white was created so he he one day he's walking down on on the on the street and what and all of a sudden he says wow now i understand why god created my neighbor i thought he was a a waste to society but now i got it now i got it and sometimes we say that about ourselves why am i here oh now i understand the talmud says that but you know why you get it not because he's such a bright intellect it's because you're working you on yourself you're taking the information and you're toiling with it and you're using it and when you do that you come up with a result you hear that so when you learn to see this and you learn deep ideas if you take that and you think about as the day goes on and you think about it more and more it's going to leave a practical result somehow on us and that rabbit says um [Music] and and it becomes more and more refined from time to time left higher and higher because that all of a sudden your form it overpowers the material what you like before the gospels and the typhus and this and that whatever it is as you learn more and as you think more and as you all of a sudden it's like you know you know people asking i was a big sports fan you know when i was a kid you know growing up like yoni you know what i'm saying and then when i got into yeshiva and i started to learn and understand water learning i didn't it just it you know it just fell away not you know i still like to like like to see a good game you know i'm not but but but what i'm saying is the the the the cuck the passion you know i have to know every score and i have to know every player and and all that you know what i'm saying it's you know if i'm tired of laying a bed and want to fall asleep sometimes you know and you know so sometimes i'll i'll look at something you know i'm saying a a recap of the game or something again and and people will say that's you know why aren't you looking at reading a book a safer i'm not i'm not excusing myself i'm just saying i'm just saying that the more you use seiko the more these types of things become less important and that's that's that's but you have to balaya look you have to work with the intellect not that the intellect should just be an intellectual ink exercise and this is one of the reasons why quite the lots of people who are very bright very smart but you say look at their character what happened over here the answer is because they're not working enough with the seiko their seiko is just remaining in the world of segal but they're not they're not they're not using the cycle to to to improve their meters and their meters are not impacting their cycle and and therefore we can have a situation one more paragraph and we'll stop it you know [Music] light of his soul doesn't illuminate him so much said and he does allow himself to convince by the eights and [Music] you have to say stop i don't want to hear from you why because there's a second aspect of myself i have a soul that transcends all the stuff now you want to come and challenge me intellectually you want to engage in dialogue with me i'm not going that that that there i'm not going there whether because i'm not ready to go there or i don't want to go there that's what that says someone who who is dumb who is controlled and dominated by the sacral of the nephew silly kids has the wherewithal to argue back and to win right but someone who doesn't and believe me most people don't because they're not trained that way don't engage it don't engage in that type of um dialogue don't engage in the type of dialogue because you're going to lose because the yates are horrible without outsmart you just a little taste what's so bad just a little taivor just a little you know what i'm saying i'll have a continue tomorrow more speaking about this everyone have a great day zai gazunt that's bye