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Klolei HaChinuch Education Principles Rebbe Raayatz #18
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Determine where the student's Will Power is reall and only deal with one issue at a time
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i can tell you you think we're dealing
with the you know with this the missiles
of this
we had the craziest most wildest thing
happen in the show
the most crazy you have to believe a guy
came to show with his wife
listen to this story you heard about the
the the missionaries that were jewish
alive they got caught the kharadi family
yeah yeah okay so
so um okay make very sure i want to
learn but
basically there was a guy during the
lockdown when we were dobbing in the
park
and people were coming from all over a
couple came and they decided to join the
shul
or whatever join dominion turns out
we found out pretty soon that uh they
were in cahoots with this other family
um they were also missionaries and
uh you know they were trying to
infiltrate uh
you know the community the jewish you
know the the shul and this and that
and uh they got caught so literally
this morning they packed up middle of
the night three four o'clock in the
morning
and they're gone nobody knows where they
are
okay
okay let's learn
page 79 let's do the kitzer for a moment
on top of the page
kitser fish the powers of the soul
is divided into two
classes two categories aleph
those that are considered internal like
intellect and emotions
and be ma encompassing
which which are which are
will and pleasure and we explained in
the chapter
yes
the advantage that that pleasure has
over will is in its ranks
it's higher in the person
maybe you could say it's deeper in the
person
the advantage that will has is over
pleasure is it sort of it's is in its
forcefulness but take it now
he's gonna now continue the next chapter
more about this and i'll
be using more of the english here and
together with the hebrew because um
i think it'll be helpful to us and
towards the end i believe moshe you'll
see the connection
and the relevance of this to the flow
of the mimer of the essay which is the
principles of education and guidance
intrinsic attributes and
figures of speech of figurative
attributes
right the altered in chapter one of
tanya which you've all learned
brings five categories sadiq badini and
russia
two levels of sadiq two kinds of russia
and one bananee
you look into the gemara and he quotes
the gemaran brothers
how has one to find the tsadik if he
does more good than bad
how someone defined the russia more bad
than good
and if his scale is balanced he's
abandoning me
that is um
that is the name
those kept names today in the in and
russia
in that analysis and that talmudic
observation and study is
uh is uh
a is a a figure of a figure of speech
then the alternative says there is the
essence of what at sadiq and obey
and a russia is and that's what he
wishes to explore and does explore in
the first 10 to 15
chapters of the tanya and he calls it
over there
shame hamusha like the same word we have
here
which are figurative attributes figure
to the
muslim is the plural of musa literally
from the word
to baro it's a term that's used
and applied in a borrowed way it's not
the very
it doesn't define the term does not
define
its essence then there are what's called
what he calls it calls here
at me from the word ah at
he says is intrinsic when the the
shadows of the word is
essence terms that denote the essence
so in in the case of what the
alternative says over there
a tsadik is not someone who has more
good than bad the altareba
argues and positions that exotic means
he's completely and always righteous
he's at a point in his life
where sin is not applicable to him as he
explains there
with it you know and uh and a russia
is someone who's the opposite so in
other words
it's not about the scale and it's not
about the reward and punishment
those are all true and what the gemara
says is true
but that's the borrowed term of the word
sadiq
let me give you another example that
makes it very simple
you go on the street or you know a rabbi
or you know a person and say oh he's
exotic
is he really exotic
it depends what you mean if you mean
he's a holy roller
and he's a and he's a very very from and
he's very
kind and all that then he's a topic if
that's what you mean that's what he is
but if you want to really know if he has
still ego and an effort
obama's which he probably does he's not
exotic
right so we use the word sadiq in a
colloquial way
he's a tajik do we really mean that he's
a level of exotic
yes hilo
hilal you're muted
um it seems more than colloquial it
seems
uh that the tanya itself uses that term
in two different places uh what
what what are you referring to please i
mean in the beginning
in the first chapter one it seems like
he he really defines it sadiq the way we
did like the rambam does
you know more uh um
and then later and he decides that today
you know with a great detail as somebody
without any
vestige of sin and he tells all story
about abaye and
and like that um uh with all due respect
you're learning incorrectly
okay the alta rebbe the alta river
cites the gomorrah so
so the the citation from the gemara
is the the the way um
one second then when he starts on on the
other side page two
i'll move and i'll
thinking he's telling you basically
that's what
that's what i'm following and that's
what really today means
in in in in my vantage point in the
altar rebecca's vantage point
and it's not a contradiction this shot
remiss
drew's inside right so
he's not contradicting himself um what
he's doing hillel
until he gets to the arizona on side two
of chapter one
is he's showing you why
the talmudic analysis and an
understanding of sadik
is inadequate
inadequate doesn't mean it's wrong
inadequate means
that if you study if you want to know if
you want to study human psychology
and you want to study uh spirituality
you ain't getting it from
a scale you ain't getting it from reward
and punishment
you need to probe further so therefore
he bombards the gemara
with questions and all of his questions
okay you follow that yeah yeah very very
important i
i please don't be slighted that i said
you know you're learning wrong
tanya but for
you know what i always say i have a hard
hat throw it at me shoot it at me
yes motion i just want to go back for a
second
the issue about essence and speak about
essence and the rebels speaking about
essence yeah um
especially in this context with
regarding
regarding etc
um is is the redmi note speaking about
the difference between looking at a
person's essence
as opposed to their behavior so it's
essent
he did he he he did that earlier
in the in the countries what comes forth
i don't know yet let's let's let's study
it but but what you just said he did he
did say that exactly what you said
earlier
and he said if you base it only on
behavior you're not assessing properly
the student so you have to look at the
essence that he said earlier moshe
and i forget now which exact chapter but
he said that earlier you'll reread it
you'll find it
okay
phrases the two expressions that we
mentioned earlier in chapter 15
that explain what will is what are they
one there's nothing as forceful as
will and number two
and there's nothing that can get in the
way of
will when willpower avi is operative
watch out it's going to like i said
yesterday steamroll you
it's the bulldozer okay
these two expressions give us an
understanding
to see what the primary concept of will
is
um
and it also explains to us
the um the um
the faculties that
are below rodson in other words this is
willpower and rotsen is
um firmness
so other powers of the soul are not that
way
and he says including hamburg
and you look guys he uses the word
shalom
you see whether we're talking about
pleasure which is above russia
so hillel here the the the frida kareba
is taking the position that is
remember we had we spoke about it
yesterday briefly
so whether it be the con the idea of
of pleasure which is greater above
will the heimbach
whether we're discussing the soul powers
of intellect and emotions
which are below willpower leo's coulomb
amazing he says they all
are affected by
will chapel behind scholar
it's fascinating you know what he's
saying here that
will power can force you to have
pleasure
and willpower can force you to
understand and can force you to feel
if you're wrestling if your will is so
strong and think about it
guys if your will is so strong you're so
determined
are you so driven you're going to use
your brain
and you're going to use your heart and
you're also going to use
your pleasure so although
pleasure is deeper in man
than will nevertheless the tactifus
the the strength the power the might the
force
of razon has an impact on will
on on on on pleasure as well that's what
he just said
including the highest of the soul powers
in the soul
a shalom due to
its one wondrous virtue and
an elevated status
although it too pleasure is a
power of the soul right it's not the
soul it's the power of the soul
we call this a manifestation of the soul
which is pleasure
is pleasure the soul no the soul
has pleasure once you say yoni
that the soul the nephesh has tainook
has onig
you're acknowledging that the soul is
not
pleasure it has a force
a an element uh an expression that that
expresses itself
through pleasure
the power of throwing something
why is it considered avi the lowest
because an
animal can kick a pebble and it can go
flying as well
is the lowest power of man you don't
need a brain
to throw something to kick something
or you don't need a brain of a human i
should say because even an animal can do
that it does that
yes
he says as it is true of the lowest
the power of uh uh the power of
is a power possessed also
by animals and he says there there is
this these ideas
both in essential osmium
names and it also exists in viral terms
or in english
a figure figure of speech let's see
let's see how he develops it
have to be no ask me vahamusha the
difference between
the intrinsic characteristic
and a figurative one who shall ask me
who the holy the intrinsic one
is all pervasive
it's all pervasive both in the internal
and the external
in other words someone who is accessing
xm essence it's an all-pervasive feeling
that takes charge of every aspect of
your being
from the inner aspects of your being to
the outer act to the external aspects
because there's a term if
when an atsumi is active
nothing else is active you hear that
when oxme is here
everything else is not here what do you
mean everything else is not here
i have a mind i have a heart i have
pleasure i have will
it's true but it's all coming as a
result of
atomy of essence so what's the driving
the force
at that time the essence the exit
i'm glad you asked no
already is a format a definition
is another format and definition etim is
the self the true self
let's learn a little more maybe talk
afterwards a little bit
conversely motion i was talking about
the shame
hamusha the borrowed term the figure the
figure
figure of speech
failure
the figurative term is described for the
sake of comparison
to an external and adjunctive attribute
let's say for example it gives an
example
the cleverness of the fox we
we we use that when comparing
we're wanting to talk about and
understand the wisdom of man with fun
in his comprehension he's as smart
as shrewd as a fox
are we talking about a fox do we have no
talk about a man
we're saying that this person's
shrewdness or sharpness
is as shrewd as a fox so we call that in
english i think a metaphor right
here he uses the word a figure of speech
figurative in hebrew
shame hamusha it's a borrowed term
we don't literally mean it we use the
term to express some
an idea that we wish to express
and says that ebb is so this applies
to russian they are mispassed
and limbs with great
firmness and might forcefulness because
it's rotten
and strong to force all the soap
all the powers last is gamma negative
even to do something that's contrary to
their nature
when will power is active like i said
earlier
it can force someone who's not
intellectual to use their brain as
someone who's not an emotional
to use their heart and someone who's not
into pleasure to be pleasurable
because willpower
rides over everything with its force
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now he says and why is that
because the accent the essence of
willpower
that's its nature so that's
that would be his what he's doing now
he's applying the concepts
of etzem and musha of essence and figure
in will so he says the idea of essence
in will is the fact that it
it alleges it
legislates to
every other power of
the person in the body do as i say
what is the borrow the figure the figure
of
speech the figurative idea within will
he says the it is applies only to the
simple aspect of wanting
in other words i want and yeah there's
an expression yeah you gave me this
expression
next villain you know used to say to the
kids
next felon i want this my daughter wants
a computer
i want to go to i want to go to florida
i want this i want that
so my father in his yiddish would teach
us
when we were young next villain
you could what i want
says the rabbit we use this expression
want russian for that as well
do we mean in that phraseology and in
that
idea that will
as in the term of controlling everything
no
we mean will as a figure of speech
but not
not that this is the real will power
let me just read a few more words
next page
the person that wants something
he's impacted by something outside of
himself
he wants it because it's pleasurable
because it's intellectual
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oh what a beautiful idea this is
contrary to the real idea of will
we explained earlier heaven that will
is an ex real will is an expression of
essence of etzem
this type of will is is stimulated by
the outside
by what smells good what feels good what
things good what pleasure is good
so it's the outside this insanity is the
external
that's prompting this will that's why
this is not real will
right i want something why do you want
it and
why do you want it is your wanting
because
you want it it's coming from your inside
or i want it because something
stimulates me and therefore i want
another
something outside of myself something
that's
not i causes it yes yay
okay so we touched about on this a
little earlier
today so when you're talking about with
the
shama the deriving pleasure right the
pla it has its own thing but
it's not the pleasure of this world i
mean it's a different kind of pleasure
we're not
we're not talking about that hashama has
a pleasure for any kind of thing in this
world any kind of physicality in this
world am i right
yeah go ahead yes you're right go ahead
but go ahead finish your point
okay i'm saying if that's the case so
and what you're saying now about
i'm saying like if that's the case then
how can
how can we when we're learning now it
doesn't to me just doesn't make sense
like i don't understand
how can we separate the two i mean if
we if we are uh um saying that a person
has a special there's a special kind of
of a pleasure that
is not in this world but on the other
hand
he does derive something from you know
something i don't know if you understand
my question it's hard it's hard for me
to even
um to really say the words but
i i i i personally feel this is a
stealer from what we're saying
about you know about if this in this
world there is there is
a pleasure from you know from the
neshama that the
actually gets the gets the pleasure from
this world
i i um i don't know if i understand what
you're saying but the little that i do
understand
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we were not talk we were not talking in
this chapter about the soul getting
pleasure from god that's not what we
were talking about
here no not from god not from god
i'm talking about when we're we're
talking about getting this pleasure in
this
world things not from not from hashem
i'm saying that
we're analyzing we're analyzing here
the person the human being a
psychological analysis
we're not we're not we're not yet
talking about anything else at this
point
okay okay
let's continue
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got mom
second paragraph on page 81
notwithstanding this fundamental
distinction
the intrinsic russians great
inherent forcefulness
and strength um
desires to express itself
me to ask me although as we said
the the figure the figurative
will is from outside
in and the essential will is from inside
out
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and in addition to it being very
forceful he did keep us his pastors
could do
the gum king it its forcefulness
is broad it it it extends itself all
over
my muscle when you talk about
the figure the figurative shame by
takeover
which doesn't have the forcefulness of
the essence
nevertheless it extends itself in other
words
that i was saying that although listen
to this although
there's the essential will and there's
the figurative will but the figurative
will
also does its job in other words
when you say i want and i want
and i want although you're not talking
about the essential will
it still has a big impact
and there are people that that pursue
their wants even if it's not coming from
their essence it's coming from their
exterior part okay so you just answered
my question
okay that's my pleasure you just
answered thank you okay
thank you i said okay next paragraph
goes back the educator
in addition to him have needing to go
slowly with the student step at a time
similar to raising a child of the infant
where you go step by step he needs us
additionally
the educators has to correct the flaws
of the of the students
with advice and knowledge
by prioritizing what needs to be
dealt with first me
rather than working at two things at one
time
choose your battles this is what he says
here
choose your battles
both when it comes to removing the
deficiencies
vehement and also when it comes to
strengthening the virtues of the student
bisman it's simultaneously
choose your battles and look at the next
bag
if the student has two deficiencies
he exaggerates and he's a liar
base casa and
anger and his blood boils
okay the nature of a person he doesn't
see his own faults
joshua but every person thinks he's
right he's righteous in his own eyes
but saying them so
his will
which will drive these different
deficiencies but take of goggle with
great forcefulness that'll get all
boiled up
and all angry and all exaggerating and
all lying
situations
the educator has to make a choice what
which
of the two am i going to first deal with
by the way um it's different he
he's classifying magazine chakra as one
exaggerating and lying as one and two
anger and blood boiling is number two
so you find these two deficiencies by a
student
says that but don't deal with both
at the same time choose which one
you believe is worse for the student and
deal with that
choose the one that is more dangerous
for the character
um and the two deficiencies of lying
and blood boiling
he should first choose because
the left is making here a suggestion
don't deal first with the lying
deal she
wasting seed when you get all into a
blood boiling mold it can cause
that for uh available
and it can cause all kinds of other
illnesses i.e
in my own words stress heart attack and
stroke
ah goof you can lose your body by the
nephesh and social
media that you'll go crazy very
very harsh words by the river
did you ever i never saw summer write
such a thing
that dummy
blood boiling will lead
to going nuts
she hates him and die to it that's what
he says next page
82.
the educator has some dietary libido
that concentrates and pays attention and
and organizes an approach to a student
big demo
with prioritization what comes first one
comes last
with methods of correct correction
by supporting and and bettering
the virtues um and and also
deals with kias vasalisa is removing the
deficiencies
yesterday you saw it merced he has
a firm basis with kavos
to hope that they saw his toys for good
results
and benefit of educational objectives so
you're probably wondering and you know
moisture is wondering what's the kesher
ma shmita saint laharseen to quote rashi
in last week's pasha bahar what's the
connection about all these discussion of
kindergarten will
inside outside essence and and what he
ends with and the answer is very simple
you have to know who the student
is and what is his real will
where is his russo
and the rabbit then took the time to
elaborate on what russian is
for you the educator to understand that
it's not a simple matter
of of just saying well i see that he's a
liar i see that he's
he's nervous i see he's angry i see
exaggerates and therefore
the behavior moshe right the behavior
will will will will will cause
will create the methodology
says that evan no you have to know his
russo
you have to know his tynuk
who is the person russian on tainan
although he said it's not the nephesh
hillel right there's the xm er makif and
pneemi
but the the makif is closer to the
nephesh
so this explains hillary that the market
is what we call
guillermo manifestation of soul
so in will and in pleasure
there is more of soul there and you
educator needs to find out about it
and this is his point this is his point
and the bottom line is a tremendous
very important insight
don't don't go for broke
in trying to correct every issue of the
student
deal with an issue at a time and an
example that he gave
between anger and and and receiver the
rebbe says it's more important to deal
with before
anger before i'm sorry before anger and
and exaggeration
why why because the consequences didn't
come
from brazil whereas with he doesn't see
that with
he doesn't in other words you get angry
okay we know that the
the tequila we know we know all the
ghazals about it like
but getting angry is like worshiping an
idol but that's not a literal sin
there's taste it's not a little raffaero
wasting a wasting of seed as a literal
alvera
having a heart attack is a literal
problem
and going crazy having a nervous
breakdown
is terrible
very important what i said when we began
a real good psychological psychological
thesis or or paper needs to be written
on this country's
in modern and modern psychology what all
this means
yes yes
you know
yes that's one thing well what what
turned him on what turned him on
yes yes no you know like when you go to
look at
this you have a guy singing a good
neighborhood you were telling
just your mind like a rubber ball tail
you know he just turned me on that guy
i i want very good i i want to tell you
a short thing and
ask you if you see that you see this as
what the rev is identifying here or not
so um a girl and boy
of course they were meeting uh you know
and
the parents asked her uh how do you know
he's a years reminder how do you know he
fears god
they're having a good time they like
each other but how do you know he's a
real year of shamaya
so she said i'll tell you how i know
oh no i'm sorry i'm sorry the the the
the mash pia the the the
the guide for the for the girl for the
color for the
heard good things about the guy she was
meeting but and she said there
how do you know he's a year of jeremiah
so he says i don't know she says
i don't know what's going on inside so
she says tell you what
tomorrow when you go out and it was the
winter you know the sun's coming down
just mention to him the sun's coming
down and see what happens
and she does and all of a sudden he puts
on his jacket then he takes out a sitter
and he starts dabbing in minha
now is that an example here's my is that
an example
of knowing the ruts and how other the
timing of them the pleasure and will
or it's really just about the behavior
yeah i'm just about to behave correct
correct correct
and the behavior did you repeat it
his answer was it's about the behavior
and the behavior is not demonstrative
of what his real pleasure is and what
his real will is
and what that ebb is teaching us in this
paragraph in this uh
a chapter in the previous one all about
will
and he went into so many intricacies
about will is you have to get
to if you want to succeed and know the
real
will and the real pleasure of the person
and you could do that
by focusing and concentrating and
knowing
and looking at the essence in other
words the way you
educator parent teacher
goes about studying the student
will be the results
we all camp together it's obvious israel
month
it's torah month the way to have the
tata is through
help us that we've had in the last two
weeks such
wake up calls first with miron and now
with inaudible with
all the stuff that somehow we need to be
more biased
and and bring people together i was in
the store yesterday
a popular sparrow store here yesterday
and someone who is a bentaira
and i was told by the store owner he has
an issue with some of my books
so i can i didn't know who he was until
yesterday and there was a whole crowd
and we were talking history and
the whole store was electric and
everyone kept quiet and
someone else and i were just going back
and forth and it was beautiful
and i turned to this fellow because the
store owner told me this is he
this is the guy who has an issue with
some of your writings
so i said sir i'd like to talk to you
what is it that you what is it that
you're unhappy about
he puts his head down he doesn't want to
talk
i said okay would you give me a number
he says no i don't want to give you my
number
that was in the afternoon in the evening
i happened to be back in the store
and he's sitting on on on on a chair
comfortable and up and he says you know
you're a nice guy i heard the
conversation that was very interesting
so now i say so what do you have against
my books
and he starts saying and then i say did
you read one book cover to cover with
the footnotes
no i said no and you ha and you're being
judgmental
and then he goes on to say well 10
goddamn had issues with lebavich and the
rep and all that
i didn't answer him because you know i
it wouldn't be good if i had to answer
him
so i just left it at that and i said we
got to get together
are suffering and and we're worried
about what the
limb 30 40 years ago said about the
rabbit
etc i mean like where are you at the
jewish people are in a serious
problem now and we need actos and i said
that's what i try to do
and actually some of the yoys that see
them in the store
who you would never believe read my
books totally in the full garb
with the penis and the hat up and the
long because
they speak english oh i buy all of your
books
and they start conversing so they're
fine this guy has a tie
he has a you know not a full beard he's
uh you know he's um you see there's a
guy it's fine great
and he's mentioning the daylily man the
issues you know
and the other guy is saying hey so he
says to him
he says what this is my dolphin takes
issues that can be very negative
controversial
and he and he explains where each one
comes from and you decide
and he heard him i'm just saying we're
talking about actus you know
we have to do more and more things to do
after the rapper once said i heard this
from there but
he said when you come to he was actually
talking about archie's role he said when
the concept gets together
and they try to imp you know don't bring
up
controversial issues if you're trying to
get to a resolution where everyone can
agree
find things you agree with of course
there are other times
you know you gotta you gotta talk it out
and argue it out but
now is this month when us beneath royal
clio
need to find commonality with each other
and the issues we'll leave for later
have a great day everyone look i am good
we'll see everyone tomorrow take care
bye-bye