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Klolei HaChinuch Education Principles Rebbe Raayatz #16
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we're on page
71 but before that let's read the kits
at the bottom of page 69.
this was the um the fourth
prerequisite the firs fourth condition
that that ever
in which a person needs to look at
in order to succeed in hashball in
educating a student a child etc
so he says in the kitchen
the educator of the guide
he needs to customize that that is you
know uh
vulgar and that that's i'm sorry that
that that is beautiful and that
that is vulgar if you have based on
each um student
uh you cannot just say that it's all
for the same person it's not that way
and he explained that before
i don't want to go i don't want to
repeat it again let's go on so now on
top of
71 into the new chapter today is 14 you
dollared
tonight the fifth condition
remember these are all conditions in
what what he called very
way back i think a chapter eight or
seven the matsav
right there's the mohus the essence of
the of the student and
the matzah the situation and and and
these are
all conditions for them
the fifth condition is
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a deliberate reflection
of the educator
in choosing specific approaches
of education and guidance so
now he talks about the the various
approaches let's see what he says
the educator in the guide must gaze
well look well in the virtues
and in the deficiencies of the of the
student
and the guy and and and the guy and the
guided the student of the guided
although he's been abraham and he needs
to reflect on these things
the messiness could dealer with great
amount of patience
so basically if you don't have patience
you shouldn't be doing this
this shouldn't be your job okay
what does he have to do when he does
this
to evaluate over lisscale combine to
weigh
each virtue the sudden
and each deficiency vapeless um
through a weight
not to underestimate the layla hot deal
and not to overestimate
so he really has to weigh carefully
the students virtues and deficiencies
don't exaggerate and don't underestimate
okay dogma systoles and this is
comparable
to looking carefully these buenos and
reflecting of her um
a craftsman
who searches as a clearly socna
he looks at a certain vessel that needs
fixing and the rebel is going to give an
example now
of a craftsman and a kaley and he says
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when the craftsman corrects
the first and foremost
he separates he needs to take apart
the the the limbs and the mean the the
parts
of the vessel of the item bizahirus
carefully shall be
not to break gum sof ava not to break
that part
hamakuku that's ruined
in the vessel so you take let's say a
watch and you have a watch it stops
working
so you need to take it apart you have to
be careful
not to break in the process of taking it
apart that part of the watch that
doesn't work well
number two
and after you took apart the the item
to its parts
then you need to reflect on each of the
parts
not only having the good part of the
watch
but also in those bad parts you have to
look at every single individual part
that's left
that's there number three
um and when you study carefully the
parts
you divide them the moroccan is the
categories
good baby
medium mediocre whatever
and bad feels
and then initially
then you once again reflect
you've now categorized the parts then
you
re-study the parts as they are in the
separate categories
you reflect on each of the parts
and kailin by dividing them into three
general categories
good medium and bad
hijab this
is considered a good division
in other words first you have to
determine which
parts of the vessel are good which
are medium and which are bad and only
once
after you have made that determination
and hence
you've put each of the items based on
your
calculation and assessment of the part
in its category
do you continue what do you continue
with
and then you decide on what type of
tick and correction do i use for each of
the parts
how do i remove that which is ruined
over by over ma le males es mccoy
and what do i fill its place with
in other words yeah i'm going to take it
away i'm going to remove it jaka why
because it's no good
but there's a there's a hole there's a
gap
there's something missing so you have to
already be thinking
what am i going to replace it with next
sake so one second so this is
this is the tikkun right this is the
correction
that is for what is already ruined what
we called before
the category of band of ra
with what am i going to pull up replace
the bad
issue next yes
i think one thing that i'm having
trouble with is
i'm hearing a lot of hearing a lot of
absolutes
when when loretta is saying um
we divide between what is good what's
vulgar and
and then these these uh of
toys um
rat is is also subjective because
sometimes
those midis are exactly why we call them
meat ice
is because there's a shopping mall
between them that sometimes they they
are to be good
used for for good things and sometimes
they're
they're these bad meat ice are meant to
be used
for a good purpose uh let's let's say
there's a lot that means a lot of
there's a lot of gray here
that also also what we tell those
students we don't tell him that he's bad
we tell him we always give him
encouragement that doesn't mean we rosie
it we don't rosie it
but we anything that uh you know any
good teacher that i've had always is you
know as a
consequence yeah yeah yeah but
you're you're you're not following i
think what he's saying he's not saying
to tell this to the student
he's talking he's talking here to the
mashpea
before he to he's talking about the
assessment process
and if he sees anger in a student is
that
and and at this in a particular way is
it good or bad it's bad
it's bad for that student at that time
in that manner it's no good
and he so the the maspea has to now
hone in on that aspect and not confuse
another aspect of his personality
on the contrary i think what they're
ever saying supports what you're saying
to say oh he's a bad student because he
has one area
one part of the kaylee one part of the
watch is broken
if if a watch has one part that's no
good does it make the other parts no
good
no that's what he's saying there are
parts that are clear
there are parts that have been in the in
the parts that are
and and a good educator needs to to
himself
come to that determination before he's
much
better we're not talking about the
hashball we're talking all about
in the okay
so now
so so so that was the first thing number
two he says he's now talking about the
ifane atikun
the methods for correction so now he
says
um
he already identified that there's part
of the of this vessel that is you know
it can last a few more years
a little while longer so it's not
overtove
it's not rara it's mediocre it has still
some shelf life
you know a battery in a car
you go to mechanic i've been told this
you know your your battery has still
some juice but
you know don't expect it to go long term
and you say
and when will it burn out when will i
get i can't tell you
but you know it's not a new battery and
i'm recharging it now and
take the charge but it's already
symptomatic
of being a schwaka battery that's
bananee
so he says the bane in the we have to
somehow
turn this bane in the and give it a a a
upgrade to make it
to tove to make it good and that's an
aveda
do you replace the battery do you
somehow
is it possible to give the battery
more something new and with that
the battery will have a strong life
you know what i'm saying something what
on the other hand
let's say you're dealing with a kid with
um you know
some syndrome and the way he is is the
way he is so
trying to upgrade the battery is going
to be square pegs and round holes
right you're right so so again
so they're a good mechanic that is not
saying here that every
child in every situation has these three
things
he's just saying that there are times
when a student has this in a situation
like you mentioned so you're right
that that doesn't apply it doesn't apply
if the agent didn't bless someone
with that particular blessing but bless
them with other ones
if you identify that your job will be
easier
because you won't ex have expectations
of him in that area
okay so that is not contradicting that
he's not contradicting that but we're
talking yaakov about someone who doesn't
in in this case doesn't have that issue
okay
he doesn't have um you know he wasn't
blessed by hashem
with these these issues in his life okay
he was blessed in a different way you
know and and and seemingly everything is
rosy and everything is good
but then you look and you see there's
some bad me days and you see some that
are middle
how do you deal with that let's go on
and he says
i'm sorry
that's already referring to the third
category
someone when you identify that part of
the character that is told
that is good how do you continue to
maintain that it be tough and it doesn't
fall
we live in a very challenging world and
there are people that are raised in
wonderful homes and they're raised with
wonderful parents and community and they
have meetings and all that
and they go out whether it be to
university whether it be to yeshiva
whether it be to work
whatever the case and they meet all
kinds of people
i see all kinds of situation and they
start slipping
and they start you know and i don't mean
now just jewishly
their character becomes dole the
character becomes fi there's a word in
yiddish far
rusty rusty
and they start becoming more bohemian
because they're living amongst bohemians
and they
you know tend to some gravitate towards
that at
times so so that ever says
the third category of the mediteva
that that right or let's talk about in
the vessel
in the watch there's a part of the watch
you open it up
wow it's like it was never touched it's
like new
now how do you know it's going to be
that way next year
you're lucky that till now it's that way
so that's why the rabbit says
has to devise a plan in himself how will
i
get this student to continue
being tafe and that's that's that's an
accomplishment
okay and we've seen this too we've seen
this many many times
i saw it when i was you know i'm doing i
do some types of
you know in the past i did more so i had
uh girls women coming
and looking for shidduchim so you know
some of them i heard were in school as
an
18 19 year old you know hasidic girls
they would never
let's say listen to non-jewish music
now they're 23 24 25 they're in the work
force
and many times they the the you know
non-jewish music plays there
and sounds pretty nice and they start
getting the liking for it so when they
drive home
they put on the music so
they're good but the the
an issue there's been a a drop why
because of a circumstance and
of course ultimately that's unhappy that
their friends are married they're not
and it really bothers them so they start
chilling out they told me this i i'm
telling you from case uh case history
not not the
my own thoughts what what they told me
what's the nakuda
the good is you have to divide devise
the plan you're innocent
how to keep a mediterva
to continue to being good so what we've
identified here this morning so far is
there's the toy the bainini and the ra
in every person's character and a good
mashbiya
assesses those three things
and he thinks about what they need
of tikkun in other words everyone needs
tickle that's the park yakov
everyone and let me let's even talk
about the example you gave someone who
you know was not was blessed for machamp
to be born a certain way with a
deficient
would say with um with an impediment
okay
so what you so you need to guide that
person too
and that's why we have the whole field
of special special education
it's not just be you know because it's a
field
it's a study how do you
improve the quality of life of a special
needs
uh person child and environment
it's a whole culture and a very
important culture
yes yaakov forgive me that i have to
comment on what you mentioned about the
music
it just rubbed me the wrong way that i
was in the office uh
oh i had to go for a procedure and the
music they played it was just
awful and i was couldn't wait to get to
put my own headphones on to play
what i what i enjoy listening to you
know
nice now still a cappella and a gooden
and
i i couldn't wait it just it it hurts me
so much to hear
how pressed the lyrics are the music and
the style of it
it's a person in the search that has an
answer that wants to have a question
they already have the answer it's
because they're broken
and a person who doesn't want that
because they realize they they their
their goal is to
get a shimano they won't let that
infiltrate them they won't have any they
won't let that affect them
that's a person who who you know we all
understand since everybody's you know
met someone
i'm just saying that's a person who
already has an answer that wants to have
a question
they already have their answer because
you know i'm surprised because of my
friends
right but you don't want to be that way
you won't
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you're you're responding with much
emotion and and i appreciate it
but i gotta sit back and tell you that
and i i'm that way too
but i gotta sit back as a counselor as a
shotgun
i gotta hear what where they're coming
from and to
impose and say it's disgusting and it's
not fair
and it's repugnant and how you're a low
life i mean you're not going to get
anywhere
no we're not calling anybody names i'm
just saying that the
goals to which you was you aspire to
this isn't going to help you get there
if you want the nice that you're
looking for
this isn't going to help you get there
because you're you're already answering
a question
that shouldn't have an answer because if
you know what you're looking for
this can't be part of the answer right
right no that
that's true that's true and that's part
of what we discuss
but what i'm saying is
i i i was bringing out that they they
start that there's a fall
in other words someone who's trained
someone who had good
good tithe in them and there's a decline
in the type
you know whether it makes sense or
doesn't make sense anyway let's continue
he says
the craftsman who has to fix this
broken vessel because of a broken part
needs to reflect on what should be the
order of tikkanavi very important
it doesn't say more here but it's very
important if you begin with c
instead of a it's a mistake if you begin
with
if you put too much in a nothing in c
it's a b and c
12 and you're left no you leave nothing
over force
for c for for it's also no good in other
words
there's an order look at his words
and the mashpee has to be miss bueno has
to reflect on the order of correct
of the corrective method
what should i deal with first in the
student of
us once he does that
this vessel is now fixed
he corrects this he fixes this vessel
in the most beautiful way and that's why
why because hey he's assessed them
correctly
b he's he's he's focused on what each
part
needs and see he has a method
and a style of of what's
first and what's second and what's third
as far as
his um correction to the problem
this was all the muscle says that every
now this is the last paragraph on page
71.
iso it is superfluous
to explain all the details of the muscle
me tickingly
of the craftsman who is diligent
in fixing the vessel benimsul in the
moral
of the mechanic of the educator
that's immersed in education
why is it uh unnecessary to explain
the rebel rights
it is impossible to ex to to explain all
details as they
are
only in general um
general what's it called marks you know
those general points
i i i it's every situation is different
i mean jacob alluded to that earlier
so to give you specific
advice for every specific issue is
impossible
the 10 the to quote give
the wise something the generality
the odd i want you to remember that
this quote
in jewish literature and and learning
give the wise abyssal
a little the yeshkamoid and he will then
take that and be spam and be smarter
by using it further in his own life so
that i've been saying here he
what supposedly prosecute michelle thank
you
so right of course the possibility so so
so the rep is saying that take
the information that i've given you in a
general way
and use your cycle and apply it
accordingly
to do what to choose
to choose specific approaches in
educating
to begin with is muslim
you must be muslim
patient uh calm calm
and patient visa and villas
to pay attention to every detail
um with education with smart
so in other words basically this
paragraph and we're now going on to page
73 sorry that i've been saying
that i can't spill it out for you in
detail it's just too much
i'm giving you the general guidelines of
how and it gave you a muscle i gave you
unison a beautiful muscle of a craftsman
relearn that rethink it and then take
take the same ideas and apply it to
education
all right top of 73.
the relationship of the educator to the
educated
has to be strong firm unwavering
if an educator shows flippy floppiness
he will be a flip-flop okay
you want to succeed you have to show
that you're kazak
you believe in what you're saying you
know what you're saying and you're not
changing your mind
you're the educator
and this will have an impact on the
student that you're the border
the student will know for sure
that since the educator designed
and gave a certain uh instructions for
education to the student
billy hevdle regardless in believement
whether it be in study in bernhard or
in practice he never
my teacher my educators not changing his
mind
he's not going to be swayed by honor and
money and and and all kinds of what we
call khanifo
and nothing will prevent the educator
from bringing the
educated impression into shape it
whether i need to be kind or kind of
stern
by fulfilling his instruction so
basically
you cannot and you will not succeed
if the educator is this type of educator
with the evidence
he needs to be such an educator kazakh
what's the words
unwavering and by the way this does not
equal
being stubborn we're talking about
he's thought out intellectually and
rationally
on approach and it makes sense for this
student
based on his assessment as we've been
talking about and that's what he sticks
to
only this type of forceful education
um with kind of pangs of
of of of iron
albus will place the student on a good
plateau
good and right and and and straight
and truthful
even when he will be older he won't
deviate from it
next paragraph however
this right away at this that i told you
that it needs to be
firm and and strong and unwavering
it must be processed
it must however be framed
by love and thoughtfulness that's what i
told you
thoughtfulness but not only
thoughtfulness that the student knows
you know the sin that my teacher who's
unwavering
and and and not changing his opinion
he loves me and because he loves me he
feels
this is the best way for me so it's not
that he's doing this because he's stuck
stubborn individual and a mean
individual no
he's a loving individual you're here
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it benefits the reception of the
instruction
that the student takes from the educator
he knows more so yes
miles here we go five benefits
get ready let's count alex miss goddard
this type of education will
give the the um
the student
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a
he sees his unwavering so he says this
guy this man
this teacher this educator he really
means it
and that's why he's not bowing bowing to
the right on the left and changing his
mind he's not wishy-washy number two
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the educated student sees ashley mitsado
it's not due to cruelty or asakas or
anger or
pedo and and sternness
that this is the way that the educator
deals with him but take it goddamn
he feels this is coming because he loves
me
that's why he cares so much about me
number three
it's necessary that this type of conduct
that he will
use for the student it will add
aleph
it will reciprocate the love from the
student to the teacher
base
trust the student will trust the teacher
the educator gimu
by seeing that his teacher is firm it
will evoke
in him that the approach to life
healthy approach is to be firm and
unwavering in a positive
way with love as its as as its as its
essence
at its core and five
han zoo this conduct
the fundamental principles of decorum
and proper behavior and this is very
very
important and very thoughtful of that
to delineate five different results
positive results from a teacher
who is firm and unwavering
and what we have to do is think about do
over the years in school or university
we had if we had such a teacher and do
we
do did we pick up these five things or
some of the five
from that particular teacher in other
words sometimes you have a teacher who
you know is is wishy-washy you know one
boy
uh says one thing and one student says
one thing and the other day someone else
says
one day's talking on the right side
one's talking to the left side who is he
he's not firm and then you have a you
have a teacher you have an educator
who is firm why the difference is
because he's thoughtful
and he's not as thoughtful and when
you're thoughtful
and and especially when you're coming
from a place of love
not thoughtful because he's mean or
cruel that ever says that here
if he has a preconceived uh meanness and
and and and um cruelty
and anger he's not the right because
then it's not coming from
love then it's coming from his own yes
his own self-ego and his own issues
so so yes
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yeah we had a teacher her name was mrs
harrison and she really really believed
in us
really really pushed us and really
really gave her self-confidence
self-esteem and she said that we can all
go to normal
school and she pushed us and we all went
to norfolk school
wow and it made me such a big
decision in my life it was so amazing
right right because she was
she she got it she was on the right
track
for the rest of my life the one guy
who's now a professor of political
science
wow yeah i mean my daughters tell me
that you know certain students in in in
base rift in the school you know
who hashem you know didn't give them
certain body parts or certain
and and they're like the top student and
you know and it's amazing it's amazing
so
so um you know
but you're right you have to have an
educator
who believes in you but but believing
you doesn't mean you know excuse the
expression sucking up to you you know
believe you means that he tells you the
truth i told you
i must be in morristown when when i i i
came to him and i spoke about certain
meetings i didn't like it within myself
and i asked him for
any advice so he said get yourself a
buckler in the basement
who will give you musser you're right
it might may look simple jonas knows
that our much better male that's what he
told me
and what did he mean he meant a friend
that's really a friend but a real friend
opens up and tells you hey you know in
this area
it's ugly you got to make a change you
know what i'm saying
so so the firmness and the
unwavering honey uh strength
is so important for the development and
at the time sometimes you don't see it
because you don't like it you know
i think about it in my years in yeshiva
you know sometimes i didn't like it it's
too bad too bad because the educator
sees the whole picture i remember i'll
end with this
i remember um when we were in los
angeles we were already older students
we were sent from morris down from
yeshiva to l.a
and we had some tightness we had some
complaints about the russia shiva
okay and i i was chosen to be the
representative
so i went into the rapper's secretary
rabbi khadakov
and robert hanukkah was a very very
bright man he was a pedagogue of
education
he was the education minister in enrique
latvia
you're talking about a very educated
the top person in the field of education
and of course a front person and
everything else a very from person
he learned to nevardic you know what i'm
saying
so i brought my complaints to him so he
told me this
he told me a muscle he said you have a
a a war of soldiers protecting the front
and the enemies on the other side and
you hear all of a sudden that there's a
breach to the right
so you leave your post and you go there
to stop it right
you've lost the walkers they come in
from where you left
and he said you only see that soldier
only saw one part of the entire picture
so he figures he has to go to that side
to protect the open
the breach on the other side right what
he doesn't see is there's a greater
whole picture so he said to me
you students he's talking about the 22
year olds you're 21 23 years
you guys see one part of the picture
the rash of shiva sees the whole picture
and therefore we side with him not with
you
as they told us okay kevin
have a great day everyone will continue
learning tomorrow zai gazette
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bye-bye