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Klolei HaChinuch Education Principles Rebbe Raayatz #15
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Where you live- Big or Small City makes a Difference in the way an educator should deal with Student
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you read it you read it as where were
they raised
but it looks to me like in this at least
the english translation
it's not where they were raised but
where are they living now
like where did they actually where do
they live
just just it's uh i don't know how much
of a difference it is but i think i
think it is it
it's it's subtle but it's uh
i think it's somewhat significant
okay i mean you're right uh
but somehow i i concluded when i
learned years ago that it implies also
where you come from
but you're technically right according
to the language right now so let's let's
keep that in mind okay
thank you for pointing it out
moisture's saying that it seems he's
saying that it seems to
the reading right now is where is he
living now not where he was raised
if he's living now in a big city
although he was raised in
in in a small city um that should not
make a difference
let's see if that's true but the the
language does imply
as moisha says let's see
don't think that where you live is only
superficial
and and not important and shouldn't make
a difference
in the um education
kim making my moisture off because the
place where one settles
if it's in a small city
it's a main and primary fundamental
issue in a person's lifestyle and
behavior
because the place where you live is ma
it influences it makes an impact
not only does it impact all kind of
wings
of life or branches of life being a lot
more whether it be yourself but
regarding the the development of spirit
in spot host the development of your
talents
and it also impacts the revelation of
your soul powers
and its behaviors in other words it
impacts all of you
o vain and it will say impact
your family life
and their behavior so there ever
basically says in this paragraph
don't think for a moment that where you
live
is is is is not much fear it's my spirit
both on you
and on your family that's what he says
in this paragraph
next paragraph i'm sorry yaakov yes
i recall an expression from the gemara
the place of a person is the person
himself thank you
right right i thank you that's uh do you
remember
which gemara where's the gemara
okay great
i'm just curious putting this in a kind
of a historical perspective
i think of the rabbi as having
as having uh you know lived in a number
of places and really
i think of him as kind of uh
a during an era an
he was addressing people who mainly
lived in the cities and i'm just curious
be
you know at one point my impression of
the whole uh
european jewish experience and certainly
the pacific one
is that in the latter part of the 19th
century there was a great migration to
cities
and the kind of traditional uh rural
life
became untenable for men for in many
places
um is it was the first
to kind of deal with that or were the
earlier reviews that
that uh had sort of more urban
communities in chabad
uh for 102 years
the babic was in a little village called
lubavitch
uh which was so small and so
and so backwards 102 years from 1813 i
think to 1915
right and then because of the oncoming
the war the rashab left to rustav which
was a bigger city then
okay and then that ever and then that
ever moved over
the previous river after his father
passed out in 1920
he moved over in 23 or 24 so
he moved over to leningrad to say
petersburg and that was considered
the big the big city right so
so that's all the 20th century that's
all those migrations are in the 20th
century
yeah for for for habakkuk for the
barbecue yes and
and i would say uh it was this way i
would say you're right you know
it was this way for most hasidic uh
let's say breast lift rab nachman only
lived in uman
uh you know maybe six to ten months and
then he passed away
right he lived but you know he lived i
think in
teplic he lived in in measure bush he
lived in measure bush now
i i don't know was measure bush because
at that time a much bigger city than
oman i don't know
you know and you're talking about 18
so um i i truly don't know the
demographics of the cities
but by and large there was a
philosophy by jewish leaders
hasidic and literature leaders and and
all
to live in a small community
where you could do what you need to as a
jew and not be bothered by the non-jews
and the government
and the place where there's you know
agriculture and opportunities for
for work that was the general i idea
across the board because of all the
terrorist issues that we had the pogroms
and everything else
um and and you know warsaw
let's say poland was a major city of
course but i think you're right in that
um
it didn't really take off as far as uh
uh you know if hasidim and others
uh until into the 1900s
again i'm not an expert in this field
but uh that that's the way it see
it it seems um you know for example
rabbit salavatrix uh
father he was a a a rov
in is near minsk
and it's no big city it's a little city
town or village you know
and then in 1913 19 he was there 1913 to
19 19 or 1920 when his father
abhayam of celebration passed away
now um
where did they move to there so that
raphael lived in at foots
i visited trotsky in 2019. about twenty
twenty five minutes outside of
of warsaw right and if you compare at
first
to warsaw it's a much smaller city uh
better air and uh for tuberculosis
they had many um institutions and homes
and
um it was considered a curing place of
good a better air for to
berkeley's patients and that's why the
previous rabbit one of the reasons he
moved there and others
so uh salvation crimes
was there as well and when he passed
away whether they bury him where i
visited him in the large
cemetery in warsaw in varsity
and then his son ramosa became uh
the like uh russia shiva so of the
muni of mizrahi yeshiva uh institution
in warsaw which and you know what i'm
saying so he comes from this little
you know with donkeys and he goes over
into
warsaw and salvation joshua
salvation talks a little bit about it in
his different you know times when he
mentioned it
that how he you know he got to see you
know
in in in in hoslavis there were many la
bachelors see them
and his own malama he always spoke about
was uh barak yakov
who was uh reesberg i think was a
lebovacher and he always spoke about him
how he impacted him he was 9 10 years
old
and he he made an impression on him that
stayed the rest of his life
and so really that was his you know that
was his frame
framework of hasidim when he came to
warsaw with his father in 1920
he starts talking about gere and about
the moderates
because those were you know alexander
that there was the polish jewelry
and class citizen was there and and he
told over beautiful things how that
impacted him
so so you know even he you know went
also from a transition from a little a
little village into a big so
so that that that's just a little uh
history uh as far as the uh
the communities um yeah well hillel
cycling too
my i think of him as sort of a a
probably a fairly typical
that he can't he was born in you know a
small town
in the area of of lubavitch
but uh but then but he he made his mark
and he lived most of his life in warsaw
that's right that's where he became very
famous you know
in many areas yeah right okay so
that definitely definitely the idea of
of where you live
uh is very important to one's character
and to all those that are around you
including family let's see what he says
now in the second paragraph
in addition to the fact that it's what
we call the calverheimer
is a fortorio in in technical english
but let's it means if this is so
and it's and it's you know light and
easy how much
more so something that's more stringent
let's see how he says
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if all branches of life in personal life
and in children and a family depend on
the
on the conduct and development of spirit
shall i says fever of that environment
that you're in i said who
they say that you and your family are
find themselves
mikoshkain mikoskinen is the calvary
needless to say in english we translate
it as needless to say
that all the branches of his life in the
there's an impact of the community
on on the person and the family
first he's saying is where the person
moves makes an impact on himself
and on his family he says that's an
individual how much
more so the place you move to that
the community makes an impact on you and
your family that's the coast game
in addition to that
so in addition to that here he says
another thing that the life in a small
city
is different
it's much rankful than a big city
next page dr twersky it's fascinating to
me that uh you know the
the the uh here he's using the phrase
irkitana in its literal sense
uh but it's such a significant phrase in
the same tanya
in its metaphorical sense talking about
the body is that you're standing
right right rabbi doctor from tuesday
told me when i interviewed him with my
book conversations with that ever
he told me that the rebbe wanted him the
rabbit
when the he wasn't yahidis and he spoke
to the rebel about what what he's doing
what it should do and everything
and i think after he graduated and and
he was ready to settle down the rebels
said
how about you know staying in new york
in brooklyn new york whatever you know
because
that was the the fastest growing the
largest growing uh froome community and
people need your help
you're talking about in 1960 or so the
rabbit told in this okay
and he told me that he said to the river
i would love to but i would i would be
overwhelmed
it's just too much for me i gotta i have
to go to a quieter place
as he told me and he went to pittsburgh
he went to pittsburgh
but the rep there ever wanted him there
never felt that
there's so many eden here that need your
help and
and the truth is the rebel was right why
do i say that
because you can't imagine how many
people in brooklyn he helped and
probably
i don't have the stats he had more
clients here than anywhere else
he who lived in pittsburgh and had the
rehabilitation center the you know the
alcohol
the rehabilitation center i forget it's
called the gateway
rehabilitation center and i i assume
most of his clients were non-jews
there but people here called them
left and right so there ever saw that
and whoever said you know but but twisty
said to me that you know
at that time you know maybe later he
whatever but at that time as a new
a new uh a new student a new doctor and
professional and he's starting his life
in a young family
he wanted to be be a katana pittsburgh
is a beer katana compared to new york
it's interesting rabbi dolphin that
revered for many for a number of years
here to swell his residence was an
affront
right you mean you mean to say compared
to yerushalayim or another place is that
yeah yeah yeah i think i think i think
later
here he left yeah yeah when i i i
when i met him he was running look you
know every person
you know depending where they are in
their life they choose
they choose a place to live you know
this is we're all
we're all in that but let's look at the
analysis let's turn now to page
65.
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with a specific nature niv
separate of all animal or living late
aquatus was for
maya not only different than the
heavenly the earthly hosts
and the earth heavenly hosts and the
gammas
man is different than supernova spheros
the superior eliminations of god
heavenly hosts earthly hosts and even
the spiritual eliminations
are one directional you have one nature
whether they are of the kind notion
of the merciful notion or the
disciplined notion and cruel
that's now he says about swash of
heavenly hosts
they they are they are balikville
they're they're made up
of kind of of a body in their own
celestial way
they're made of refined material
this is all the rambam the gum name
bowel poil effort but nevertheless they
also had their one directional
el chocola
they have the the there are many
several remedies coming from them and he
says kamehameha
take the sun what's the main objective
of the saudis in
to illuminate to bring light
us
but its remedy is litapoise is to heal
something as long as you put on your
your lotion not to get got to be the um
an illness but those colossal place
the sun has the the the
the quality of healing number two let
yes join us and go ahead
and defend the vitamin d right which is
a very good
source against the
right thank you thank you i i meant to
say that vitamin d
thank you number two the height of
michael's had to show you
what does the sun also do avi it makes
vegetation grass grow the vascular pedes
it it makes fruits ripes vatures and
wheat ripes right
so these are the impact this is the
impact of the
of the tsvo maya of the heavenly host
now he goes to the third aspect which is
milo heavenly
creatures the angels
they're divided into ten categories wake
up this morning we learned
we have ten categories of angels which
one is yours
commercial cause of arambom as the
rambam rides
fetus they come
and associate with the ten emanations
nevertheless they all are one
directional
noise of allah and here we have the
addition
above them all which is the human
which includes the essential virtue
shall have of the upper
hosts um
who also has in himself the lowest of
the low
the worst of the worst of the ones below
the balcony but nevertheless
man is multi-directional
so yes the stars from mayam
are more refined than we are
but guess what they're limited this they
have a muzzle on them they only see
narrow vision tunnel vision
man has both in him that's a good mother
too
right the upper part of man the lower
part of man
right he is in the language
multi-directional apology
um the various
activities that god has instilled in man
they correspond to his temperament
yoni to his spiritual
essence next page page
that the creations of earth and heaven
although there are different creature um
types of bodies
the goof is
that the bodies of of of of creatures of
earth
our course are are materialistic
the goofy brioche and the bodies of the
brewery
mayam of the heavenly and then there's
the thing
they're more refined and nevertheless
both bo both of their
ulos of their activities is because of
what
is because of goofer so yes
one is a goof one is a goof
that's more refined one is a goof that's
more
coarse but nevertheless they both are
what
they both are goof they both are body
so therefore and and what about the
third category they mentioned before
blasphemous
the heavenly emanations the spheres in
the pulosu mitsubs
they are driven by their soul
so we have swashburmayim
swaharaz is driven by goof
the emanations the spheros are driven by
that's a combination of the upper and
the lower inner pulse equila
his activity has both punches
his activity combines
the phys the material and the spiritual
no one else has that
that is the virtue of men
so regardless of how holy souls are in
our holy
angels are and how and how special the
stars and the moon and everything else
it's all very nice but they don't have
in the infinite infinity in them
as far as as much as infinity is is
applicable to a human being in other
words they they don't have the neshama
drive in them
in the human being which makes a human
be able to do el yay
and guess what at the same time doesn't
speak about it here right here but the
altar eben chapter 34 tanya calls the
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and from the other side he has
frustration and burrito to tears
i've told you the story the house of
their parents his friend saw him they
saw him crying from one
eye and laughing from the other eye they
thought he was a schizophrenic
and he wasn't he was
emulating who he is
and i saw this with the rebbe i want to
end the rabbit he could be so happy and
dancing making with his hands and and
and saying look at him and
joy and a moment later he couldn't he
couldn't talk he was choking up because
he was talking about russian jews how
they're still stuck in russia
or how mashiach is not here or whatever
else
and it's not just that evidence for
every one of us
and if you look at your life and you
think about it
you'll see this and that's healthy
this is healthy this is not
schizophrenic this is healthy living
where a person should be able to express
both feelings the upper and the lower
the kind and the ugly if you don't want
to be ugly you're not a human being
we all have ugliness we all have demons
we have to deal with them we have to
work them out
but el jane is part
of our makeup that's what he says over
here
next paragraph
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matters the act the things that that
hashem
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he makes an impact he is an influencer
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were also impacted
influenced beneath
his sustenance the food we eat the
environment
the air we breathe and all of that makes
an impact on us
the
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it doesn't mean angels it means food you
need refined foods
yoni simple reason not to grab the
chunks
you eat a lot of chunks you're totally a
mess
you can barely move and it gives you
ulcers and heart and heart
ache you want to be
a little choked a little a little more
another potato
eat it slow make a brother you know
the point is that my holy
document or what we would call today
healthy living healthy food
makes a big difference it refines
that's what he says
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you put on a nice suit
you feel like a million bucks you put on
rags you feel
very decrepid
bugatti doesn't mean you have to wear
the the fanciest of designer i mean some
people
like i told you that story because he
outrest
the person who solicited the guy gave
him a donation he said
if he can outdress me and i'm a ceo of a
company and i think i'm a big schwitzer
and a mocker
and he dresses better than i he's worth
his money and he gave him the big check
okay but you know
we're not talking about that's an
exception to a rule bugatti
clothing
there's something about clothing that
make expands a person's
let's use it today's word consciousness
das
numbered by shrimp
wow those who dwell in in
small towns guess what
their choice their days are longer
they never use the word cooling which is
kaful right double
english translates just longer life
the point is what does this point to
what does this point to my shirt the
less stress you have in your life
the longer you should live naturally i
mean
what the hamster does we'll never know
but we're talking about it
so here we see clearly and we'll
conclude with this today
how the rabbit the frida kerebe
identifies
these aspects of where where you
live making a difference to who you
are so he's telling the masjid he's
telling the educator the mechanic
he's telling him my friend
when you look at your students don't put
them all in the same basket because some
live here and some live there
there i don't think he speaks more about
this in the rest of the countries but
moshe
i'm gonna try to check this with a with
a person or two but my
my i concluded when i learned this the
first time
many years ago and again i learned that
you know as
a student so i wasn't maybe as
knowledgeable and careful at the time
i didn't pick up i walked away just with
this
that where you're raised makes a
difference and
and moshe why wouldn't it follow it
makes sense doesn't it
hello very much connected rabbit though
very much connected to your book that
you want to write on bali chuva
right like for example i
grew up all over the united states i was
raised all over the united states in
different cities and
but when we came here to seoul we came
through shalin almost five years
and i couldn't i couldn't see myself i
felt like a number there i felt like i
had nothing to contribute i had nothing
to give
and so we went to roma chemist in the
summer of 2000
it's much smaller than it is now and it
was
much more pastoral and tranquil than it
is now
and it's still much more tranquil right
the point
to be able to do here and help and give
i i didn't feel i could do that you
shall i am and certainly that's not
where i'm and where i was raised
raised in the united states in a very
very different environment so i don't
know i
i i would see it the opposite i see very
much
the the significance is where he is now
where's the person now
are you saying that where you were
raised doesn't make a difference
no i'm not saying that at all i'm saying
in this particular
what what the rabbit rats is writing
here i think has to do with where a
person
is living but there's no question where
a person is raised
the question extremely significant i
just don't see that here in the text
okay yeah right right right no i i agree
with you it's not in the text
i agree with you it's not in the text
hillel if someone asked you
what's what makes a greater impact on a
person
where he was raised or where he's living
now what would you answer
well i think you know over time we tend
to get just more
uh regulars we get we're just it's who
we are gets more form
so i mean like you know i live with this
because my wife is a country girl
and i'm a city kid you know so uh so i
know
i know this very well she you know uh
when when my impulse is to sort of turn
up the energy it urges to turn it down
it's just a uh yeah when it works well
it's
you know it's uh it's a really a great
of
avi you're showing me something avi you
want to say something you should
unmute yourself unmute yourself avi
unmute yourself
yes
called me and i wanted to show her i
couldn't speak with her now because i'm
on the phone oh oh oh oh okay i thought
you had
something to say about this issue you
any any thoughts
no i i i think i'm with moshe i think
that you know you go
to a lot of different places and stuff
and you can contribute
i think that's a lot of the stuff of
chabad i think a lot of the reason why
you have so many um and
and came outside of verity and i
actually did speak to ramesh niersen
about this
it's a there's a tough kid each person
has a top kid and not everybody's able
to do that energy stroll
you know where you go when you have a
business you go where the customers are
you know so the customers are too swell
you have less customers than you do
let's say in you know venice beach
right a lot more a lot more customers to
try to be the kind of people even though
a lot of people didn't regard as well
the rapper when rabbis young israel
rabbis and others you know
wanted to make aliyah so i told you once
both rabbis hell of a chick who was the
kind of the father figure of young
israel and why you and all that
and the rebel were not uh very
supportive
i mean they you know that that's the
truth but and and i'm putting i'm saying
rabbi salovey
and the rebels so it's not just the
hasidic thing what about that's another
discussion but
but um when when they presented to the
rebbe that they
are doing this so the rebels sometimes
ask them so where do you plan on living
and many most of them said yerushalayim
and you know the rabbit told them
i i think that you know you should
find us another place outside
where you can contribute to the
community because no one needs you
and it's online by the way the son of
one of these rabbis it's in one of the
gem videos
he tells over this and he says
my father was very disappointed and and
i think he
even moved out he moved back to america
because
he you know initially he was disagreeing
with the rabbi and
fine no problem you know your life but
then it came to yerushalayim and there's
you know like you know so
so moshe and what you're saying is is
100 right a person has to
assure has to you know if if
it's also with younger said if a person
believes that where they're going to
live is where where they have a tough
kid a purpose
so you want to make a difference in your
purpose now of course wherever we end up
which
we could make a purpose there you know
the the
this idea oh because i'm jerusalem you
know
i give an example i remember one of my
last trips a few years ago i was your
lion i put up flyers and and people came
from all over
yeah i had a hustle you know it it it's
not like walking into
bed shemesh where you know everyone it's
it's an open
everyone's looking it's a different type
but
so you can make a difference wherever
you go but but it's true
it's true that um certain communities
are more apt for what you have to offer
and
and this is a very important thing and i
talk about this uh
you know also to my children and and
go go go sometimes a person
is is not cut out for a certain place
i had a mashpia and i have who's a very
hasidic jew
and very knowledgeable and everything
else and he told me once he can't speak
to 10 people
i said why not he says i need 80 people
to speak to
you know and and he's a good guy there's
certain people
that what brings out the best in them a
crowd
you got ten people five people you know
they just they just don't put them they
cannot
motivate themselves and a person has to
know that it
it's one thing to say krishna shall meet
and and and and bang the
uh shamnu and and say hey what kind of
jew am i what kind of person
am i a jew is a jew teach him one two
three what's the difference
that's between you and god but the
bottom line is
we want you to be an effective teacher
and to be an effective influencer
and if you cannot get yourself to do
that
in a certain situation find another
situation
and it's a balance it's a balance like
when do you know to leave
a certain place you know
my son was working for a b h photo out
of manhattan right
wonderful they give everyone a job i
told them at a certain point
you don't have growth here they're great
people you're making a bare bone you're
making a salary and you know but your
family is growing
it's time to leave and he left
and barack hashem you know he expanded
and the same is true i've seen uh rabbis
working for other rabbis
and they're getting a salary a paycheck
no growth you know
you're not gonna get a bigger salary
here in five or ten years because
they don't have the money or that's the
system you want more money and you want
more opportunity
you got you got to go on your own and
you don't have a check you got to raise
your money and you got to make money
come in
but you will expand so these issues are
all part of
what we're learning today anyway have a
great day we'll see everyone tomorrow
shalom bye bye