Klolei HaChinuch Education Principles Rebbe Raayatz #12

we're on page 47 good day to everyone essay on education and guidance uh page 47. let's learn the kisser to refresh ourselves of what we learned yesterday kitchen tap torch to the top of the page the the best the kind of education and guidance it is only when it's based on the essence of the educated and the guided the student the child the employer the employee only when the teacher when the the guide the madrid assesses them properly and looks and looks for that essence then it is you're on the tr on track there's no guarantees in life but you have a good chance but if you don't look to them who is the who is this student what is the ma the essential makeup of the student what god-given uh abilities was the student given if you do that you'll have more success you don't do that you'll have less success and that ever adds you'll actually hurt them for life because you know there's a famous vert i didn't say this yesterday but listen to this and make you might want to write it down i might it might be in a yum yum if any of you remember to tell me so yeah i think it's a hygienic too shame just as knowing one's faults is crucial knowing one's deficiencies is crucial one's weakness is important greater is it important to know your strengths have you come across that nightmare anyone well i believe so anyway this is what i just said encapsulates what that ever said in the previous chapter it's not just a matter of not listen you know i didn't i didn't take the time to discover the essence of this student so i'll get to it another time if i don't get to it another another educator will get to it wrong you have hurt the student you have hurt the employee and the child and the teenager because we're dealing here not with knowledge and information the issue at hand for a mechanic i can't repeat this enough because that ever repeats it constantly and it's the theme of the country so let's not deviate from it this is not about information and education it's not about a good teacher in a classroom who explains well or doesn't explain that well this is about middles this is about character this is about a person who's born like a wild donkey as he's gonna quote soon and how do you uproot and remove the this ugly character from the persons of the person shines and is beautiful so here you're talking about something that is is essential to turning the person into as we quoted yesterday in our share peter gimli whoever is pleasant in the eyes of humanity of people is automatically pleasant in the eyes of hashem that's what we're talking about okay now if you remember in chapter six uh the chapter seven sorry chapter seven that ebba said that there are two points that we have to look at to properly develop the student one is the mohus the essence and one is what he called the matzah the matzah you know how they say nurture show what's the matzah right what's the situation is about the matsav let's see page 47. classification of people mitsaad araboa in yonim on four the tournaments of four details human beings are divide are generally divided in four categories four ideas aleph liffey claus isco based on what they do colon either joshua they sit in the tents meaning they are yeshiva students or cuddle people or people sit and learn the entire time right if we call them they sit in the tent of torah or are they men people of business asic is business work so that's one thing you want to look at number two le fee matsuva based on their situation are they ashirim wealthy or nium or poor three lefire gillusam we look at them based on we analyze and we study them based on their habits believe have them all humanity all all people in tafe good habits do they have good habits or bad habits and finally point number four the fema claim is this always to me was it left such an impression i learned this so many years ago the first time and it's still in my head from 40 years ago 50 years ago who knows how long ago if you mock them and shove them where were they raised on a moshav on a farm in duncan oklahoma in wyoming in new mexico in arizokadish in brooklyn or in harlem the gear catana where they raised in a lar in a small city or godaila or a large city and the rabbit says these four things will give us an understanding of the masav yes maisha i'm sorry forgive me river dolphin i'm just curious the english reads it's slightly different i'm just curious you said where were they raised in the english i noticed as their place of residence so i'm just asking the reason i'm asking is because i'm wondering what according to what you said is there a difference in meaning and significance of i i hear let's let's continue and see you're right it says the english is the correct translation and i use the word raise because that's what stands out in my mind and we'll see if it talks about it later and you'll see why i used it or not okay so hold on okay good next paragraph says these four groups have six six uh types aleph yoshi oyo base baliasakim business people ashidam together all kinds all types are obligated between this key in our midst was to do mrs maccio's actual practical mitzvos and to and to conduct himself in proper etiquette and character middays nevertheless they differ in the matter in the manner of which they which one should educate and guide them call me flog each group based on their day-to-day affairs it's very nice to say you're all we're all obligated to learn and to dive into mitzvos and be a mention everything but the six groups which which i think you see you know you seek includes all of life's affairs play a major difference in role in how how we express that let's go next word the organized and the guaranteed has to be tailored to a pupil's age um look at note number 29 for a second in the english of youth qualifies the import of the above classifications of people when educating children the aforementioned distinctions are largely inapplicable they're not poor they're not rich the children they're in their parents home when educating grown-ups however their age is no longer a major factor in the equation why because they're already grown up only their general type classes which by adulthood have already emerged what the note is saying is that ever puts all six together but as they apply to the to young to the to children or to adults some of the issues are not they've already been established and you understand and some of the issues don't apply so wealthy and poor doesn't apply to a child and and and this other issue of um you know uh the way a person is ready with their middle east as a grown-up their middles are already uh full force but nevertheless he he gives us a general cat categorization and clown um an architectural uh view of the greater issue okay okay wait i i know but but here he said the pla whether the person is now rich that's why this answers what moisture brought up that's why i interpreted the way i learned it last time i you know let me really finish what it says in the paragraph is that we have we could apply everything in various ways to everyone but right now right now the text reads he says uh the financial situation wealthy or poor he means right now a child is not wealthy or poor what you're saying is he's raised in a wealthy home he's raised in a poor home so that's another in the kuda do be afraid of heaven could you hold off your questions just for two minutes let's let's let's let's go further see if he says something okay man is born like a wild donkey a quote from eof 1112 chapter 11 verse 12 ir a donkey petter wild other man your volley is born man is born like a wild donkey okay when you're one years old yaakov daimler a baby is like a king everyone pampers the baby everyone brings everything to the baby the food carrying and everything else you become benched i in two years old childish and three years old here the child is similar to a pig to a cousin why the baby the child i want everything i need this i need this one years old the baby's not saying i need this it's it's the nature to to treat the it's a one-year-old child but but you're when you're already two and three and you're starting to walk and you're starting to talk and all this damage has it it's like i don't if you have a better interpretation that's my my interpretation for now at least ben when you become 10 years old coy fitz we have a word sprint esprit like a goat he's a budding teenager he's 10 years old he's going in 15 years i want this and it's different than the two three-year-old of course you can't compare the educating of a yelled of of of of a child to another what's an older child let's say a teenager what's the one of the main things the main things of educating a child to be clean sneers venemous to be modest and proper manners shalom [Music] shouldn't eat like a glutton like a fresher you know okay and so other things that are similar in matters that are kind of small and insignificant but absolutely necessary right oh a little clean here a little cleaner big deal no no no but compared to the big picture it's peyote but you like that term you s why they absolutely necessary because this is the foundation the foundational distinction being high between the animal kingdom would mean ahmedabad to the human kingdom is in cleanliness you know make all over yourself and you clean up yourself and all these things make the basic difference between a high and i'm a dabber is above this we're going a step further what is that making sure they make braches hire him respect for parents listening to teachers these are all things that are important and crucial to a teenager beginning with his teen years is the third stage when you get to your bar mitzvah years so you can't compare the that is necessary at that time to the clinic that was was adequate from you know nar i guess 10 or so 910 to bar mitzvah should be curry if you ask yourself you have boys or grandchildren who are getting to bar mitzvah age what does the rabbit see as the primary importance avi at that time i not just to do the mitzvah but to do the mitzvah in a in a beautified way behind my head in the mitzvah not to get away with you know with anything you can get away with number two what's important at that time schmidas maniatrilovatsibor so important you want to you want your kids grandkids to dive in with a minion later start them young and be an example when they're 12-11-12 they see you going to shul they will come along not just the chakras as well so shimira says keeping the times of trilla not to put forth diligence and effort in the learning of theta for four shminus as man keeping a time a time is a time we don't keep a time and we say oh this means a half an hour later islam made me another very important thing is teach the pre-bar mitzvah boy and bass mitzvah girl the importance of respecting and learning from people who are mi meno who are older than him and so is the meet the best this is the style of good education is to constantly climb the ladder from level to level to the point that is appropriate for him so in other words at bar mitzvah at pre bar mitzvah if you suffice with what you taught him from 9 10 till then it's not proper you're missing an opportunity and you're not giving that child teenager what they need sorry the rapper calls everything he just said in the previous paragraph he calls it spiritual ethical or ethical sustenance how muslim do you like those words hamazon hamusari usually we use the muslim for food here is using it for the ethics hamas is comparable to mozain hagoofni to actual physical food how he explains how cold you ate them everyone knows his powers his talent system his senses more so than a drop of milk in sweet water right because nevertheless if a infant of one month will eat morocco's sharp soup or boss or trade in good meat yamus he'll die it's too much if you feed the other dog sweet water in typist with a drop of milk mixed in it will become weaker it will be weak it's not enough to feed his body his growing body so so too sorry in the ethical food the ethical sustenance young people youngsters what they need ethically the fee ha gil based on their age or the daily men of based on their type right because once you're ready yaakov once you're ready a goggle you're already an adult here it's more about the type versus the actual um you know you know all the issues you spoke about before all these issues are when you're raising a youngster from birth through teen hood when you become an adult here what's what's necessary and and what needs to be emphasized and what's crucial is the issues of you know community uh poverty and wealth and those issues let's let's continue just as an organized and and guaranteed kind of and and uh it also needs to be based on um types when you're dealing with adults and he says just like a garment sorry for me you want to put on clothing that fits you if it's too short next page li yovi to ellis there won't be any benefit the miata and if it's too long you cut your body you'll trip over the long clothing so just as garments need to be tailored to the person's fit and size and all that so too with education if they're not fitting for those particular student and the situation in a lazy will not only bachelor of view to ls they won't bring any benefit will actually ruin him upon him in two ways one you dress them with two short clothing so what does that mean ethically you're not supplying for him the proper meters that he needs to know about and and and develop the hain and yakulam you'll also hurt him if you give him too much more than what he can handle kids i'm going to go further kids the development of the difference between by adults with fema flagra it is based on the types of victim and by the youngsters which eat them and the young sophia gills based on the age let's just continue because he is still in the middle of a thought test how now he goes back to develop those six points that's why i want to continue the division that we mentioned based on the work they find the sustain the the the the the the livelihood work of human of of people he listened to liam can be divided into two categories aleph yes who sit in the tent and learn all that and baseball yourself and business people is this different and his name although it is not what we call a soul-like difference commercial it is not like the difference of the brain because which comes due to the how much of the soul is revealed where one has more brain capacity one has less brain capacity one understands things this way kim avoiled to pay the gimbal as we explained earlier in chapter three she is calculus we call that a soul difference but a simple person will never you hear this will never transform to become a genius he's he has a posture to brain that's what god gave him aldera like like is customary by human in human nature so he if the human nature is that he's pushed the brain is postured he won't become a wondrous genius but he must have seen him by creating ideas about wonders of scholars and comprehending deep thoughts and mookies that are deep it ain't him he doesn't have that brain capacity in lloyd that ever says there is an exception if an outside force that's outside of the person happens to to impact him through the mileage that's beyond the norm but that hell in a wonderous way so in other words the never saying it it's not that it can never happen but it's not happening based on who he is sometimes i've seen this i i think i told you once i do a boy you know because my brother's class very simple guy and he lost his father in that book and he started to learn and and and he learns it became again i'm not convinced that his brain didn't change but the diligence that he put into it gave him lots of information and and and he studied it well so there are outside ulterior exterior uh uh stimuli that causes you know things to happen but that ever caused that pathetic pellet it's a wonder in other words it it can but we're not talking about we're talking about the person based on what hashem gave him what type of cup he has there is someone who has a genius cup someone who has a hakem cup a bean a cup a dust cup and someone has a simple cup and it's all fine but that's the way it is let's continue einstein is not becoming a person on the street i'm sorry einstein is an einstein a person is a big hustler he's a big hawkman he ain't changing to become ishmael a people a person of the masses that ever says this is this is the way we find it naturally every day [Music] that ever says sometimes god forbid if someone is punished holy see and we've seen this too people fall yes batteries they're addressing this because we know plenty of stories of uh of boys that weren't stretched kitchen at one stage and then they blossomed and you and you see them become a a huge thomas it wasn't didn't seem to be part of their teva years before well that that so yeah yes yaakov the question is when you say it didn't seem that's a big word you use it didn't seem we're not talking about it didn't seem nothing but someone had the brain capacity and just was a matter of you know using it he was talking about someone that was given the katrila and i'm sure we've all seen that i have a blockage with with math i don't know why but that's the way it is and and believe me i worked hard in school okay but compared to some of my friends they got it and i just couldn't get it or forgot it if i got it took me much longer but that's what we're talking about and it's you know everyone has a certain brain and a certain blockage and whatever that's what he's talking about so when you say seem that's a very big word and by the way that's what a good mechanic figures out as well is it only seen that way or is it real that way what are you doing and if it is that way their behavior modification uh you know there's all kinds of you see in barak hashem today we do find that even people who weren't blessed you know with that particular area of seijo there are ways that they could go go around it and and and still have a tremendous amount of knowledge but let me say this with yaakov since you mentioned it you know certain are sharp they get things quickly you know getting things quickly ain't changing by someone who knows whole shots you can have a person those old shots but he still doesn't have a chanel cup okay or he doesn't have an amkus cup it's a gemara that's says safari the mullah dynasty you know it's a murder he's really he's he's a he's like a a a bucket full of books but really he doesn't he has the information i mean this this is factual so that's what he's identifying here what he's saying here is sometimes there's some kind of the does something where even that person gets gets a gift and is able to overcome his natural brain capacity and go beyond that and the and he says the same thing sometimes a person who's just gotten all that ends up ends up with the on the streets with the hermione whatever you know why is that i have a friend and they're just massive time with hulkham and he's driving at the taxi i didn't see him for 34 30 40 years my heart went out i mean i was like devastated i mean i know how much tighter he knows he got the smither from the heihousloyma the highest mika he can be he got a two dot and it can be a rough and any city in urges role and what is he doing driving a taxi why pannosa and why the community doesn't take such a man and put him on a pedestal you know the answer right so so there are many things that that play play you know that that take effect and make a difference but let's not let's take to the course let's continue inside and then we'll talk a little bit okay [Music] he says what we're talking about in this chapter in the previous chapter the division based on business and involvement is not a soul it's not has nothing to do with your soul next page 55 53. behavior modification the learner can become a and a businessman can become a learner and you have this mice and behold him here all of us right i mean okay you know what i'm saying that we're not your chief well we're business people in different ways what we do and they was sitting and learning so you know hashem i'm just saying that when it comes to behavior behavior does not require a soul experience it acquires t.o.t as we say right sit down and just work and sit down and learn and don't budge and just do your thing because [Music] nevertheless as long as they're involved in their respective evocation in yeshua oil whether it be sitting or learning ballets to go working they the the situation that they're involved with differentiates them what they need or what what they want what they need to do and what they should not be doing in other words in the business world you have to be careful with certain things and in the torah world you have to be careful with certain things that ever says it's readily acceptable that's called the musculation oil that a full-time torah learner is superior to the businessman although not too superior to those of a crack craftsman or laborer what does he mean here okay look at note 35 explaining it nicely the meaning of this of the last clause seems unclear the the the bracket the bra the bracketed text inserted by the translator suggests one possible interpretation namely that the stark contrast between the life of a full-time torah scholar and the life of a businessman is considerably greater than the contrast between that of a full-time torah scholar and a working person who is not a business person per se why for a regular work work man a crap which he calls a craftsman or a laborer like a full-time terror scholar may also control his own time may also have a relatively stress-free life that's correct and may also work in a religiously friendly environment in this sense then the full-time terrorist guard class is superior to that of the business class but not superior to that of the working class what do you think about that did you follow him out was it too fast he's saying kevin kevin wake up halo did you get it yeah yeah so it it seems like he's emphasizing here the uh kind of the life's what we would call today a lifestyle yeah yeah that uh you know that a person who's a craftsman an artist has their shot they're self-employed they can they manage their own time they're uh they may not get so wrapped up in sort of the uh uh the uh the aspect of that uh of life that a businessman would right right and and and therefore to say that a a a torus a yoshi oil is superior he's saying he's not superior to him so so in other words hello listen to this he's not talking about now the fact that you learned toyota what what greater thing is then tell you it doesn't it's not talking about that it's talking about the uh how should i say this the the work of learning toyota so he says when you learn taylor you're a free man right and he's saying a crap uh someone who sets his own hours is also a free man whereas a business person who who he means here not a ceo you know or even a ceo whatever he means someone who is you know who has to you know be a nine to five and make it and be responsible to others or others you know be on top of others is is is not as free that's what he says [Music] okay we'll stop here imagine we'll continue tomorrow um tomorrow i have to learn i might have learned with my cell phone so i hope it works out well um but uh yeah what what did you say before you i'm sorry i cut you off the thing i was saying in the beginning of the shoot you were talking about how how um a person's uh uh not titus you used a different word um persons the middles are are formed right so yeah we're talking about a child it's being formed but an adult it's it's it's a ready form what would the rayon say about about shuba someone that's 40 years old 50 years old becomes about you but is he a child like it's that's that's a that's a good loaded question that requires a big study in fact i was either dreaming about it or i woke up about it that uh i really want to do a book on on on bali true value but i have to develop the idea um that's that's that's that's a heavy question i i don't mean heavy politically i mean to say it taking what he says here and applying it to the balthashuva is a very interesting analysis i think so the answer is i don't have an answer for you yet but you know i'm glad you brought it up some will tell you you me some will tell you off the cuff they would tell you yeah about true that 40 50 60 or 30 whatever whatever is like a child that's what you can hear from someone who's not thinking i think it's a lot deeper and a lot more profound because again i don't see this as an analysis where torah learning versus work he's not that's he's that's not that might be true but not over here this is not the context of that of this discussion here we're talking about what does tata learning do to the character or person regarding stress and regarding feelings and regarding attitudes what does business do to a person in those areas and what does a business a and business b business a being the one who's responsible to others and occupied by others and business b what he calls the craftsman or whatever the person who makes his own time and to that is the comparison that he's looking at right now okay so that applies also to about truth what does have to do about he was a he was a boy he was a teenager he was adult so the fact that he crazy ate a hamburger or the fact that he you know spent time with girls or the fact that he did whatever he did so what not so what of course it makes a difference but but as far as experience of life with hilo called you know lifestyle that lifestyle is an analysis yes it needs to take be taken into the equation and and and this is a very important point especially children that are raised in bali chuva homes uh you know we see this you know when we have with the shidduchim and it you know there's a whole different it's a whole study you know you need you know there's a certain way you're raised in a home so children raised and about to shove a home and how you know are they about to shove up from before marriage from after marriage there's so many variances and nuances in this equation kevin we'll talk tomorrow i have another cheers talk to everyone have a great day bye thank you thank you thank you yeah okay take care