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Justification is Form of Arrogance
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Kuntres U'Maayan #29
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hey davis today is not just
a day when we celebrate
um the chabad
victory in court over the
inheritance who did the inheritance the
previous foreign belong to
which is one way of looking at it and
some have
an issue with it not in other
communities but if you look at the words
you know the famous song that they sang
and sing on this day is uh yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
so notza comes from a midrash
it's a madrish which talks about um
the marching out with the lulav in the
hand
and they say
we won and the represented this madrid
in conjunction with this day so what
does the word
didan mean doesn't literally mean
we won the don means
our our victory
who is the hour referring to the hour is
referring to the sfarim
the books that were in captivity
that were judged upon
and held in captivity for over a year
and the issue was about their
validity they won
the title one so this festival of the
damn not
is you could say the rebels
it's our rabbit rebels
day the the previous rabbi has you based
thomas when his life was spared
that's thomas is the previous rabbis
celebratory day and the altera we just
went we had utes kislev
and this rabbit this last rabbit was
this
hey tavis because
the issue
was the validity of him
and khabad as a continuation of
sixth generations successive generations
of
that was the issue and i documented this
at length in my first book called chabad
portraits number one
i wrote a very extensive article on
based on
uh the writings of barry gorari who was
a grandson
of the previous rabbit and he is the one
who took
the books with the permission of his
mother
hannah garrary who was a daughter of the
previous rabbit
and she gave him permission to take some
books from the library and to sell them
because he needed funds at the time
and the if you read his
uh manifesto and i know some of you
might ask me for it and i will not give
it to you because i haven't given it to
anyone it is
private and i promise the person who
gave it to me i will not disclose it so
the most you can get is reading it in my
in my book and maybe you'll find it on
your own and
go for it you know but anyway in his
manifesto
which he was going to print and this i'm
telling you
a secret from under the covers he was
going to print it and
chabad cut a deal with him and he
and they paid him and he did not print
it
but he was going to print his manifesto
and it wasn't and by the way it's
nothing
terrible terrible it's nothing terrible
you know but you know but
the the babbage is you know the respect
of
the the the hassidis didn't want that
printed
and again i i i my humble opinion is is
nothing outrageous there
but it's still not you know what
what people want other people to know
about so
so barry guerrari he um
he basically this is how he sums up this
this issue he says that
khasidas khabad ended with his
grandfather
and the the bavitch of today and
he and he has the following co coin he
coins the following phrase
in his manifesto there's
versus old lubavitch new chabad versus
old chabad
old chabad is his grandfather and before
and the older hasidim of the rashaba and
his grandfather
nu khabar is the rebbe and everything
further
and he basically you know argues that
that's not
real
so i took those i took six pages of his
writing out of like 250 to 200 pages and
i dissected it
and showed um many holes
in many of his arguments but that's
that's another discussion
so today hey davis when the court
charles sifton charles sifted the
italian or our irishman
he spent over a year studying this case
and he wrote an opinion and he and he
said later when they interviewed him
that
it was one of his most phenomenal cases
that he's ever had in his lifetime and
he was a prominent judge
and he understood
what the difference of opinion was
and he made a decision that
the library of chabad does not belong
to any one particular person including
family
it is an institution and the institution
is alive
and so he he disagreed completely with
guerrari
and his lawyer's argument that the
institution is over
because he said the facts are on the
ground there is a building called 770.
there are
all over there are institutions
worldwide so what do you mean it's over
in your little mind sitting in mount
clare new jersey
uh you want to fantasize that it's over
but it ain't over it's not even not it
not it only is it not over it's only
grown
so that was one rejection in his of the
opinion
of gerrari's opinion and number two he
said
that we see from a letter that the
previous
that the previous rebber wrote to dr
alexander marks who was the chief
librarian of jts in 1945
and he writes there asking dr marx to
send
books to his library he clearly says
the library is the library of the chabad
community
and guerrari and his lawyers argued that
he said that but he didn't
mean it and the rebel went like
ballistic went about that
in rejecting how could someone say that
what
my father-in-law wrote is a lie
that he didn't really mean it he just
said it to get the books from marx
and the judge oh during hollywood
circus 1984 or 85
forget now 85 i think um
matt lewin of uh the washington area
potomac you know the
the the lawyer the you know the orthodox
lawyer that
fights for jewish causes and jerry
shostak of uh
pennsylvania philadelphia and maybe
someone else
they came to the rebber to to ask the
river
what his opinion is how should they
approach
the case i mean they were going to make
their own decision because it's law
but they didn't consult with the rabbi
and the rabbit said
pointed to this letter that even the we
the chabad
world was unaware of and even those few
maybe that were aware of it
didn't pay any attention and the rebbe
pointed out this one letter
and he said use this letter as your main
argument
and they fought they listened and which
is also
miraculous in a way before lawyers you
know they weren't libba just see them
okay
they have to present an argument in
court
and and they presented they accepted the
rebels
argument with this document and
the judge
honed in on this letter in his decision
and he said from this letter we see that
it belongs to the community
so the rep this you know this was locked
this
shows the rebels sharp intellect you
know not talking about being a rebel not
sadiq
he possibly understood like a like like
a lawyer and better than the lawyers
this letter will win the case of any
letter if in in the civil world that we
live in the world of civility
and law and order so this happened on
height davis when the resvarum were
actually brought back to seven um
i'm sorry davis is when the the
the ruling of the judge came out uh in
favor of the chabad library
so ev then um
that year or a year later i think a year
later the rebels said on the same day
that anyone that wants to write a note
and and and he and give it in he'll
bring it to the ohil
and he won't even read it because many
times the rebel read your letter at the
old for prayer
to hashem my by the ohio it is not going
to read it
and the prayers will go directly to
hashem
to be answered that day
1985 tate davis
the rebel walked out with the
secretaries behind him with 10
big shopping bags of letters that came
in for the entire world
and they placed them all into the o hell
and that was that so that so this is the
date
so we know that hayao memorial
days that are auspicious are not just as
the arizona says that not just
commemorative
as oh it was happened once upon a time
rather they repeat themselves each year
and if you connect with the energy and
you and you get into it then you're
sensitized you dive in more you learn
more you get more seductive you do more
and you and you go into yourself you
could feel
you can feel some of this kedusha so
today
is a day when everyone in my humble
opinion should
write a note of what they need for
themselves and their family
and send it to the old there's a
telephone number that you can find it
online
you can send it facts and so many you
just send it over
and and if you want to whatsapp me i'll
you know i hope to be at the ohio later
and i'll mention it
mention that but if it's if it's private
don't send it to me you know do it
yourself
you know i'm saying so i don't that's
it's private whatever
parnosa health but this is something
that he said in 1985
so it's happening today so i'm just
sharing with you for the benefit of
everyone here
so it's a great day and uh this is the
day that comes right after chanukah you
know we
had chanukah because friday
you know many many uh shules and
their manoras are lit and by the web i
think
even at minha time the manure was lit
friday afternoon with the eight candles
of the night before
all day friday is was hanukkah
then came shabbos mccakes and we rained
the haftarah that we didn't read
for 20 years this shabbos
the story of melech
of his wisdom right
because as he asked hashem said what do
you want whatever you want shlaim i'll
give you
he asked for and he got ma
and to prove himself that he got the
kahma
to prove it is this story of the after
this
shabbos with the with the two women that
were fighting
and the rebber pointed out like many
years ago an interesting point if you
look into the af theater
it says the two women were prostitutes
zionists
now you know this is also
interesting every time you i read
something like this
it's like you know we say don't write
this and that it's not
respectful uh-huh and the trey and the
tanakh writes about two prostitutes who
came to schleimer
that's pretty respectful isn't it and
more so
that's why answers the prostitutes
and and and this is the proof
that he's adam that is the most he's the
wisest man right
one second he'll so so so um
the rebbe said years ago at a fabregan
what what's what's the why but after all
okay
it says that but what's what is the
why does the tanakh say this
why does it want us to know it that
hebba said because the ultimate torah
wisdom
is to transform the darkest situation
and in the world we live in the world of
prostitution and things like that
to take that and to elevate it
vis-a-vis the story in tanakh
is the greatest accomplishment and here
you see another
another important how the rabbit takes
it's not fantastic
he takes something that's negative
that's really disgusting right
and he turns it around and shows the
kedusha
boy that oh only this labacher
this had this 180 degree
turn from the the regular way of
learning it and
again it doesn't contradict the regular
shot
but you have to ask yourself what does
the tanakh want to say
and share with us talking about two who
cares about two prostitutes
had an argument the baby belongs to her
the blame belongs to him
she'll say what uh the tanakh wants to
tell us to show
her slayma's wisdom oh it couldn't find
a better story
to show shlamus wisdom
and that's the answer the answer is it
could have
but it shows this one because this is
the lowest kind
and the most disgusting and shleima
melech
shows his wisdom even there because
torah is given to illuminate
every situation even the most despicable
uh un un proper and respectful situation
hila you want to say something i just
wanted to say the torah itself
uses that term
right yeah but the turret doesn't give
us a story
here it's a story story of tamar yes it
gives us a story oh oh oh oh okay
okay okay so so there too but this is
the
tough day of this week anyway so that
was shabbos we had shabbos mccase
and today comes hey davis so it's like
chanukah
mccain's hey davis it's it's three
wonderful
days of light so with that let's learn
further in the mimer unless someone
has a question or a comment uh on what i
said
yes yoni let me do do they say
like
but again you know to
to make of it like you must say good job
is ridiculous
if you have that feeling you say it you
don't have that feeling
you know there's many things in real
life
a real chabad you know these semantics
are it has to come from yourself so
but to answer you yes you will hear a
lot of barbecues to say saying good job
and that's fine and that's fine but uh
you know
is it a young thing yeah it's it's
if a young means revelation of godliness
a certain godliness is
energizes the world more if you connect
with this day you could say that
absolutely
okay uh where are we now i think we're
on page 26
where we are motion do you have the i
think we're on page
241 am i right
actually we're we're actually in the
kids 239 right
okay that's i know that okay so let's go
back to 239 to look at the kids here
yoni i know you have your wonderful
safer
halay mater the ian godel the one who
studies trader with great eu
great uh concentration uh
someone who davens and the word over
here is osek
involvement not just slip service
involvement
in the service of heart but arrives
at length his bone in this bit feeler
meditating during
meditating on godly ideas and concepts
this is of course the model of his
abundance of meditation
to the point where the idea resonates
okay i'm translating which literally
means
it's placed by him but it the better
word for our purposes
it resonates between
now what does that mean in other words
it's some kind of attachment
but muslim which means first thought
meaning it becomes so much it resonates
part of you that this is the way you
think
it's not like you understand it's not
like i'm going to study it
and then i might cut i i'll come to an
understanding
it is who you are it's become davuk
it's become cl glued to you but muscular
region
that's an expression by the way brought
in the early philosophers jewish
philosophers
etc the rambam
and others
the first haskallah the first idea
very sharp words from but he said it
if a person comes to believe
that he is the one that
causes the situation masturbative means
he
he he hope he he betters himself he says
it's about me
i've done it i've created it says that
this individual is worse because of
their than someone who is
mentally lacking
another point the one who has this
conceit thomas go
for the word gaiva pogame blemishes
be utk the first two letters of the uk
that's serious business i don't want to
start up with the youth key
and the rashaba concludes but
having kabbalah soil acceptance and
subservience to hashem
you is the foundation
of serving hashem let's continue
mimer test zion the sixteenth mimer paid
the color page 241.
the more i learned this and i prepared a
little bit yesterday
more of this i it's it's it stands out
if you know the history
it stands out how he's like he's talking
to the yeshiva world of 1904
slobodkin and tells i mean he's like
and but you know he's talking to the ben
tyra
look you know you won't find so so you
won't find
this this language in chabad hasidis and
writings been torah
ben tata is a more of a lit fish
classical term again you know if we
wouldn't be in this world of hasidim and
and litvia and litvish we wouldn't even
identify
ourselves as ben tara a yahoodi
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but it looks to me like there are shabba
ready sensed
that vladimir created the bentora model
slobodka followed through tells follow
through
you know everyone in their different
ways the band tyra right
so i don't know if this it just hit me
like you know
the rashaba is using a term ben torah
it's so it's so
it's so not the badge it's i'm just
telling you
i'm telling you facts on the ground and
he
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that same that same idea of the four
when he taught us he would say and
what's
who are we we are a yid
see so it's it's the same idea but
a different cretch a different emphasis
you know that a jew
is not just a medabare a jew is
something more significant
rebellion uses ben taylor fine i'm i'm
not arguing i'm not saying it's bad i'm
just saying
it's it's a different emphasis that's
all that's all i'm saying
anyway the other question i just had to
ask you is yeah
in the guy that is playing in the uk
yeah all
let me let me ask you to learn
on your did you learn the last chapter
or you did not
i think you did okay i want you after
this year or today
to revisit and then we'll discuss plenty
it's a very good question
but the answer but kisser is that guy in
particular touches uk
which is plenus
revelation that's the answer but but
take a look earlier let's continue
so he says
this great ureader this great descent
that um that guyva that impacts it makes
an impact
so that ever returns that ashram returns
to his beginning thought right
mayan base
so the rabbit says this argument that
you think
that with your torah and your and that
you're you
you are the big man and all that is
foolishness
look at this the entire musa
the entire concept and idea of gaiva of
gaius
sorry gaius which is guyver is a
wondrous
stos is a great stupidity
kermeiman as the saying is co gay
the prideful are fools
okay and it says
what are you being big about what are
you bragging about
if
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you graced man with us so it's yours
this was given to us from heaven the imp
so stop so that's why if you think it's
your creation it's a
sniffler number two
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so you'll argue yes the brain that i
have
was given to me by hashem but my hus
mother my diligence learning and
learning and never stopping to learn and
the effort
right i don't try to waste a moment that
is my own doing so
i deserve credit i could be sitting on
the couch and watching the football game
today
or playing golf or going for a walk
and instead i'm learning so don't i
deserve
credit
if it's because of your diligence and
learning
says that guess what
could be you're an introvert my daughter
just sent me a clip
from someone whose grandfather was a
rabbi here of the young israel he was a
great orator
i was telling yaakov before about it
rabbi shore was his name
and his granddaughter who doesn't look
too hasivic to put it mildly
anyway did a ted talk and she speaks
about the virtue of being an
introvert the rebel ashabir says
and this is also brought in tanya
chapter
your diligence usually
it has to do with people
who are introverts and who have what
we're
in yiddish remember these words zits
this means to sit flesh means meat
you know you have the the patience to
sit
and study and you're not interested
in running around and going out
so what are you bragging with what are
you bragging with
it's teva it's part of your nature
let's go back inside so if they ask
mothers live with the yoga leaders it
could be
he says by the way he says
it's not that it always is that way we
have seen
and we know people who were by nature
just the opposite
and they forced themselves to create an
opposing nature and they sit
and they don't and and they study and
and they don't run around
and for them it's very hard and they
break their nature okay so we're not
talking about that that you get
a lot of credit for but if by nature
this is who you are what are you
bragging with let's continue inside
me that ever says this
this is because you have what's called
means like uh it means the black goal
but it means you're you know you're more
on the uh
quiet side melancholy side the
oppressive side the
sit still side all that comes from the
borrowers
guess what and even if you change your
nature
and you would rather be running around
and having a good time and doing
whatever it is and going from subject to
subject
and you know being all right here with a
type a personality
if i'm whatever if i'm right and all of
a sudden you change your personality
so for that shouldn't you get credit
classes who gives you the kayak to do
that the industry
he gives you the kayaks what are you you
know
tooting your own horn
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all this was about the useless usage of
the mind
now he says let's talk about the surface
of the heart
be
you have a sensation of love for the
habit
you you you feel this great oval
and this vacuums and you just don't want
to let go right
so shouldn't you get credit for that
you were given this it comes from the
shuffle
why should man the lowest
you know low man is good but double
shane
brag about something that does that's
not yours so that's his argument
it doesn't belong to you you got a gift
if you got a gift
what are you bragging be thankful you
got a gift
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the famous if one studied much later our
toxic tablets
don't don't feel good that you know that
you're you
i did it
although over there it says
this is why you were created the
implication of this these words is that
what
that hashem wants you to kind of feel
good about yourself
says this is
a second reason
behind he explains
the first reason is not adequate enough
for man is a he has free will
even though he was given the power to
understand and comprehend and to serve
as hashem god because nevertheless
he can choose not to learn his father
not the dublin with intent
the second reason is to explain why you
should choose your free will yoni
and learn in da but not the second
reason killer cockney sansa
is not coming to take away the first
reason
and the first reason is i'll talk to the
asmr
you've got a gift so in other words just
two independent thoughts
number one you were given a gift by
hashem
and and that's why there's no reason for
you to it makes no sense for you to brag
it doesn't it's not your creation god
gave it to you and
and and the art and the next thing that
peter says is
but you have free will you have free
will there's a picture of says look
outside so why did god create you
otherwise you wouldn't be here
he created you to serve him so use your
free will to serve him so that's
encouragement
killer sartre is encouragement
why we should we should opt to serve him
commercial separation
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hashem
not themselves they bind themselves one
with the other
one israel this is a very famous lawyer
that's quoted in habakkuk see this
orphan
israel
jews bind themselves they tie themselves
to the torah
the orissa and the torah
and the torah ties itself to hashem
so since you have those two knots what
happens
then the yid ties itself
through the tail to hashem which is like
the third knot
through the intermediary of taira miss
kashroy and nishmasis royal
jewish souls are bound lily costa god
venus
the possibility of 10 10 is the weight
that's used over there
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that the tens debris of the of the ten
commandments
correspond negative my mothers to the
tense
utterances of may there be light
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etc etc
god made a condition with creation if
you kind of use those state russia
if the jews will be makai might have
great
but the implant if they won't be making
my turn
i'll return the world will tell you what
voyager to naught and void
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these are the offsprings of the heavens
and the earth be bottom when they were
created
why were they created and who's merit
who was who's me
and who's merit do they last this was
english in the merit of these the same
word ayla
in the beginning of schmos these are the
names of the eden
the
these are the testimonies and the
statutes and the laws
so therefore picking up it says killer
not
so this is why we created them because
the primary creation of ma'am
the end will be and that everyone will
hear so they came here
fear god there's some trace of shame and
his mitzvahs keep kissing
for this is man this is what man needs
to do
is so when a person
does what he was created to do
ain't like top of the next page 245
england
toyota there's no reason for him
to think that he's mister did it and
he's great
because
so too when it comes to his avodah his
service of loving hashem
and attaching himself cleaving to god
aiming the hockey table outside there's
no reason to
to to be big about it and brag
this is why you were created
this is the purpose that you should be
at you should elevate yourself
through the learning of the service of
hashem which is but as we said earlier
that shows that you didn't make any
difference
because you don't have any beetle
that means you still haven't reached the
ultimate
purpose of what god wants of you and
when you realize that
you have to be bitter in your soul you
have to be frustrated
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because of this you didn't yet come to
the purpose of why you created
it mama say why am i here
the shop is telling us to make a husband
and a fish
why am i here
especially if this leads to not being
careful of certain things
i feel like what i'm calling even
lenient things shall i feel
my lust good day loss um
based on reality these are kind of
insignificant not as important
the host gaming yes if god forbid this
leads you to not just do personally
things that are not proper
but it leads to a god a desecration
hashem's name
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all of this is a result because you're
avoided that you did it wasn't behind us
it wasn't truthful
for if it was truthful also your point
of bitly benefit you would have
made you would cause bitter within
yourself so he marks the table after
claude carl you wouldn't consider that
you're the big man and all that
the horse can't show you but you'd be
careful in all details
so all of this comes when the spirit of
folly
convinces you she
with your is of tata or yakuza table
asthma or consider your avoid and all
that
that you are the one behind it and you
should get the big prize and all that
quite a piece of muscle but that's what
he says
ben taylor that has to you know
you know if if i wouldn't if if he would
if we wouldn't learn this and read it
so many years later over 100 years later
you could say
write the same thing about what's
happening today
anyway we'll leave it at that the rest
we have to bring about and that's not
the time
yes hillary you want to say something no
i just wanted
uh no trevor
it's a great day uh barak hashem
remember
write something you know i'm sure
everyone has needs themselves their
families
and uh for sure everyone should be
healthy
hashem should hashem should uh bring the
health
into the world and the removal of this
uh terrible thing and that this vaccine
should have only positive results and
not have negative results
i'll tell you a scary uh stat that we
have uh
by austin schull the head of pulmonology
at mahmonitis
he's a friend of mine he's shiva he's a
little baby rabbi dr yitzhak cooper
is very very bright and he probably
knows shaas i mean he's a
he's a real a real talmud hoffman and
and a very
top doctor world but he's very
unassuming he doesn't talk much you
wouldn't know it right
so when we have kidneys and shul says
the the severe you know gather and sit
down and and they in
and they start asking especially you
know with covid and uh you know
schmoozing and and he and he talks he
talks
so i wasn't there last week but a friend
of mine told me that
he said that what he read the
literature that's out on the vaccine
and he said that something that they
that people don't know about is that
four percent four percent of
uh people with getting the vaccine
uh according to the statistics that they
have and the information
will have a paralysis
and the paralysis will last for could be
from a few hours
to a long time the their breathing
will be improved so they won't in other
words
so as far as dying and if that's the
concern they won't die
the the vaccine will will accomplish
that
but there are side effects and this side
effect that he that he identified and
read he said
you don't know you don't know if it's
going to be you know from those four
percent that are getting it they'll get
it
if it's only a few hours which isn't you
know it's not comfortable but
or god forbid it can be weeks or months
it's it's it's so early in in in in
in this whole uh area that it's that it
you know so of course if if it's an
emergency situation
um one needs to you know should take it
but uh yeah
about a specific uh one of the vaccines
or both i think he was probably speaking
about the pfizer one but i because
because
the the second one the modern one came
out this week and this conversation was
last shabbos
or so but i wasn't there so i i wasn't
there i can't tell you
for sure um
is that something i've not heard yet
yeah yeah i mean this is cut this is
coming from
this is coming from it's not it would
not be a surprise
that there'd be a variety of symptoms
to any vaccine right but some people
will have reactions to them it's a
uh you know it's a it's a significant
uh intervention
okay i i i know but i'm saying you know
when you when you hear
some hardcore statistics from a an
expert
in in in this field of pulmonology you
know it's
whatever it is what it is you know uh
again you know
it's uh that's big that's big yeah
yeah so i'm i'm sharing what you know
what what i heard and then
and it could be a week or two or three
later there'll be a change maybe another
vaccine the baderno one or another one
coming out of earth's role or someone
else
won't have those results but he said
based on what he read about the
literature so far
i mean um you know
yes moshe i just want to share with
everybody
um last night on torahanytime.com
on shabbos on shabbos i heard you're
like
over an hour long i listened to it last
night i'll forward it to everybody
he speaks about the vaccine it's all
about it was an
excellent share he says to take it
but he goes through a lot a tremendous
number of sugars in shasta and polish
him
related to background to how he made the
decisions
he speaks all about exactly how the
rabbit
used to say to consult with experts so
he did he said he consulted with
expert experts in the fields in science
and medicine
here in ireland israel and arts i'm just
i'm sharing it because i think that it
is offen
if everybody it's long sheer
but it's well worth listening to because
the background that he gives
an overall perspective how to look at
the situation
is it's fantastic
okay so pl pl please share it with us
thank you very much
so what he he's saying that every one
second he's saying everyone should
should take it to katrina he said
he said for sure to consult your doctor
um like for example he mentioned that
he brought up the issue of the people
who are anaphylactic
um could have a potentially
negative reaction so you brought that up
but just so happens my wife is
anaphylactic she has some
reactions certain things so he spoke
about that but he said basically
he it because in a nutshell
yes he said to take it said to consult
your doctor
but he said he said to take it yeah okay
thank you yo yo yoni
yeah so i supposed to have the
artifactor dr factor
last yesterday in uh at a kiddish
he's one of the biggest doctors here in
beijing he said
everybody was asking the question he
said if someone's at risk
or older after 65 or older they should
take it
he's if you're not at risk absolutely
not because if you want to have kids
it's definitely going to be a big
problem yeah
no no no no nursing moms no pregnant
women
no women who can still bear children no
men that can still have children
he says absolutely not only two people
are at risk now moshe moshe did
rabbi weiss address those things
he didn't address them he didn't address
them as specifically as yoni just said
interestingly enough yoni i saw uh
yesterday morning he was we were at a
kiddush probably before
he saw you yeah
i asked him point blank the exact same
question in front of everybody
he said more or less what you said but
um
it's interesting that rabbi my wife did
not
address everything that you just
mentioned like as specifically
you know but he did say obviously
i'll just say repeat again to consult
their doctor
right uh you know
if you mentioned the rebound this on
this approach
the rebel would in my humble opinion
would side with a doctor over the rabbi
because because because
because again if the rabbi could
substantiate
that he got the same information
so this is the thing again this is why
he he
said rabbi why say he said i'm not a
doctor i'm not a scientist
he said but he consults with experts and
he said what do you do
in case we have you have a difference of
opinion amongst
amongst the experts okay so you go like
the robin the rebels said that's why the
rebel would say three doctors
choose three doctors and follow their
opinion with these two that disagree
if so he said he said
he said you have to go with the person
who is the biggest
yeah okay i i you know that would have i
would have to take a careful uh
read of if the rapper would would say go
with the
majority opinion or with the the biggest
that's an interesting question
do you follow the majority opinion or do
you follow the minority opinion given
that he is an expert
interesting kevin have a great day good
conversation
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