Internet, Smart Phones in school education - Rebbe on Parallel Classes - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin #1

foreign [Music] Yeshiva for the last 58 years unbelievable it's a great Merit to be here within today and I'm going to ask him questions and discuss with them different topics of Jewish Education that's relevant to all people not just them all Jews who are attending at schools parents who are parenting children and grandparents who want to help their their family so without further Ado Rabbi eckhouse please take it away my first question to you is the impact of the internet age and these cell phones and all the gadgets how does that play itself out today in hinoken education and is it something that we should embrace or something that we should reject now I know that in various communities they have their approach to it but I wanted to hear from you please I guess there can be certain advantages in using it again as far as the mice that goes or the rebbies go however though um if it's monitored and supervised it's watched then obviously it's something that's good like I know that some rebbies they have a certain program where the kids can call in every night to the ribby and get the review of the day's learning or so and it's like at the same time it works well together at the same time where um the the kids are all benefiting from it but it's under supervision but in general for a child to have access to these things the whether it's uh the internet which I'm not too familiar with myself and the other gimmicks that are out there the uh cell phones and smartphones I'm sorry not cell phones this smartphones and things like that beaming it in the hands of children is dangerous a bunch of dangerous really uh and um unfortunately the more I think you keep them away from it or at least if you have it open to them at least to be watching and supervising it make sure like I know some parents they have uh um so they have time limits on it or so and they they know what the child is watching or so okay the child is watching it fine uh I don't think that you can leave it to the child's judgment to the side what he should watch telling him listen he should only watch the ramshabigdusha it's not going to happen holy things yeah because that's not you're the eight Sahara is always there and as you're growing up children are developing physically and that's the way the ABC created the person that he has a drive to the music to certain things which at that age is not very healthy for them and it has to be the child has to acclimate to them in a decent way in a proper way and if you leave it to them to decide to when to use it how to use it or so you're actually giving them a weapon against themselves I mean I'm just saying as far as I know from growing up I mean as your child you have certain inclinations where you want to do things which are it's it's a natural thing in the person's body that he's growing you know go from from from childhood to teenage and time to listening to say into adulthood and so and the abrish that made this in your body and this is something which it's normal it's natural but it has to be watch it has to be it's like the guided or so so it generally to leave it in their hands I can only it should only be used in the case where it's going to be experimental supervision and then it says it could be used for good the red beheld but you can take everything that's there and use it for good right uh however though again not when they have the ability to to use it at that discretion whatever they want to use it now what effect it has if that's your question as far as what effect it has yeah what what unfortunately in your classroom what have you seen okay again I can tell from from uh teaching the kids in class I can only tell if a kid comes in and is tired he's not ready to learn or so obviously you're going to uh credit it to the fact that he that he was up late and what he was doing when he was up late and if he was watching a television program I was watching something in the internet um obviously he's not going to be learning that day and not only is not going to be learning I would say the the engine of seeing things of the we have this this problem when I was a young kid I was watching listening to the radio okay radio is not something that really sticks in your mind it doesn't become embedded that much watching TV watching television is something that and remains in your mind you can be sitting in class and you you are reviewing the the program that you saw the night before and obviously the kid is not going to be into learning he's not going to be into learning at all so the Ria today is much more powerful than the shmia I mean that it's always been Propel but yes and I can say I tell you from my own experience when I was a kid and I watched the program that was really suspenseful or so it just kept on reappearing in my mind I would say not only for the next day but for years later and I wish I would never have watched it and something the and you know I'm seeing things today is a very very a very dangerous thing that children are dangerous whatever goes up on your mind with the photograph of it a picture of it stays with you it's it's something which you have to really watch very much okay so I want to go to the next question the next issue what would seven two three most important things that you've experienced in your 58 years to make a successful classroom because Baruch Hashem I I was a student of America's in the early 1970s and I have a wonderful wonderful memories we learned very well he taught us how to learn Gambar and Tysons it was I think the first time we really you know learned how to learn it well and the class was quiet it was there was discipline and so in my books and I'm sure many people that are viewing this they have fond memories so what are what what would you tell to mahankham Educators today are the two three things that if they if they follow they will be more successful in having a better classroom decorum and situation okay number one the first and most important thing I think is again I'm not a professional I'm just saying from my experience you have to have a good preparation you have to be prepared when you're going in to give a share learning with the kids whatever you're learning with them you're teaching them you have to have a a really a thorough thorough knowledge of the thing you're teaching to the point that you're not saying the gamar inside you're not reading the Amara and translating and then trying to figure out what the gemara means but you have to be know the Gomorrah inside out before you're going to teach them yeah it has to be so clear to you like you know that that there's every step of the of the whether it's a piece of Gomorrah or it's a Tyson or so you have to have every step figured out calculated how it's going to work how it's going to be set up as that I said I told you before I learned that from a Memphis how he was really everything was so systematic everything was like step by step and uh he build up like every piece of Gamora was like a building it was built up piece by piece and that has been your mind beforehand you can't go into a class and start teaching if you don't know the gamari yet so the first thing is preparation the preparation your phone preparation thorough preparation and it you have to understand the gemara perfectly well that ties as well and if there's a part that you don't understand that you don't get and you say I don't have this link over here this little part tell the kids I don't have the link I have to still figure this out or so sometimes that happens you have to go into a class that day and you have to give the share and you have to sometimes you can maybe say else we'll come back to this part or so later on but you got to be thorough and you can't fool it you can't fool the kids you got to try to know it thoroughly inside out okay that's number one the second thing is when you when you have a class you're always going to have the rep was never for parallel classes smarter and less more whatever was not for that at all and I'm not uh maybe I should repeat it at one point they wanted to make a class and I think it was the best fifth if I'm not mistaken whether it was the smarter girls and there was uh girls and they proposed it forever and the rep is said what's the time what will be what you're doing the far side of a person far side of the river that later on they're going to ask the parent the person who the Husson's parents are going to want to find out about this girl they're going to go into school how was she in school well she was in class too second grade the second class so that's she's not such a smart girl right the rep was not for this parallel class when you have weaker and better there have been one for like mixed and I I always felt that way yeah the class is mixed now there's nothing wrong with that you can have a lot of people feel that the kids that are losing at that the kids are smart are losing out they're not losing out they're not they're not they could maybe have learned another two lines of gemara true that's true but however they have the Mindless that everything was settled in their mind much clearer because if you do it gradually even the smartest person if it hops fast it goes fast what comes in quick goes out quick okay if it goes in slowly gradually you get it and sticks with you so when you teach a piece of gamara tysus whatever it is you have to be able to explain it in a way as I said if you do it thoroughly for yourself you're going to be able to do it in class also that not only is smart get your bill to understand it but also the boy the weak Boy should also be able to understand that too so what has to be presented in a way that like I said you have to break down the gemara if it's going to be you've got to explain what ashara is and what a part is this is a male that's a female a sharp it's a wild thing and a par Reza is not that wild and if that's necessary I don't say you have to explain it to the class every little thing but if it needs to be then you explain it to them so you start off low and going going up and it's like explaining your thing piece by piece that every child should be able to understand that even the boy should be able to understand I'm not talking about a kid who is really has a mental block or so I'm not I mean you can't always get everyone but at least the average child should be able to grasp it and it should not be for top of the year 70 and up but but what about the ones that are tough you do you believe that they'll be satisfied if you break it down so much they won't get bored no 100 I've had it so many times I had brilliant kids in class and you know who they are some of them okay and and I had kids that I asked them to please take the next grade because they can do it and they said no they want to stay stay back because you made it interesting yeah right right that's another part to it also if you're going to break it down it's going to be interesting and there is a very important part about making the in the more interesting yeah I'm in other words sometimes you have to go away from the thing like I told you we take uh how the fishermen would take the fish and they would hang it up and string it on a metal thing what did he do about that time we were interested we wanted to hear how the fishermen you know if we're going to catch fish yeah you put it up right so right away you brought in something else from the outside you connected it but it's interesting the kid is wants to hear so of course you have to make an engine even if it costs a little bit time or so don't worry about that extra little time that you're wasting on it it's the main part it's important that the kid that he should get a be able to grasp it and not not tops of the class it has to be for everyone any a third point the third point is that I wanted to say is that you have to also make sure that the kids uh uh it's like the get feel that they're free to ask and encourage them to ask if they don't understand it ask and try because you you want to get to every kid you want to get and um one of the important things is also as far as getting every kid is testing when you get we give a test to the kids you test them and explain to them the test is not for the kids it's for the rebbe when the rabbit gets the papers back and he sees where the kid is lacking what's and who's lacking where they're lacking you know where you got to correct yourself so as well one of the rebbies once said he says anova's rabbit talushkin or one of the uh that used to come to Paris I want to see how the malaman is doing it says from the kids I can see how the Muhammad the malamed can only see where he is faulty or where he's doing well only from giving a test of the kids testing them asking them and finding out then he can knows where he can improve in his witch part he's lacking in which part he needs and needs Improvement so so it's important to know get feedback from the kids what's going on because that's what you're going to be able to correct and improve on and make it better but you have to your class is not not illusion is everybody and you have to try to guess I'm not saying you know there may be a kid that's very very very below that he doesn't belong there's just sitting there just you know yeah I mean it could be but he will still pick up if you're going to be slow I'll pick up don't work with the only it has to be across the board you know for everybody right okay so I want to thank us this is the first of four parts series uh so thank you very much and we will continue soon with our second part foreign [Music] foreign