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Intellect and Emotions
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Maamar Lecha Amar Libi 1941 #5
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good morning we're uh learning the mimer
of the
malibi of
the sliches and we are on page
10 in ice bays
and we left off yesterday
where the reb explains to us the
difference between
the difference between
the the various aspects of the spheros
of the emanations of hashem
and this was all
to to to elaborate
on the nakuda that nasa adam bitsalmanu
heavenly man is made in the image
of hashem so by understanding
how we function it helps us understand
hashem better that's the nakuda
so let's go back into the text
and we are one two three four five six
um
okay we're about 10 lines from the from
the beginning of the
where it says
okay so we're we're it's actually about
15 the 1450 lines
the line begins
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is different than the other emanation
in its very essence and core
but i know
not only are the emanations of intellect
different than the emanations
of machiphem the kessler the crown
the encompassing machine and different
also than the emotive emanations
called swedish hamidos
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within the
energies and the vessels within each one
give me a moment okay as the saying goes
three um kind of holes
three shaheen
this refers to three specific chain
chambers
build google's other in man's skull
there is found a specific
intellectual element
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that is different in its in what it's
comprised of
its material
so what are we saying that the actual
brain material
that's used for hakma
is of dif is different than the brain
material for bena and the
brain material for das
you know what that what that would mean
scientifically i don't know
but when you use your seiko
in the mode of chakma you're
you're you're accessing another
material matter of the brain
so it's not only what we're learning
here is it's not only that the
content is different but the actual
claim that is different
you ain't seen you with me on this very
interesting
program is more wet and the left hand
side of the plane is more dry
thank you thank you very much for
clarifying yes
so this what you're saying fits right
into what we're learning excellent
continuing
he says it right next line look at this
and the way the the brain
that's associated with bina who harm the
yogis
it's dry and warm
the rain
so there are differences
in the brain depending on the seiko
that you the particular idea that you
are processing
isn't that interesting
is using all of this as an analogy
who top of page 11 bahasweta schiller
milo so
it's all true in the same manner
in the heavenly emanations
although this is a rhetorical remark
although
there we know a rule that the emanations
are like a chain one coming from the
other
motion the end of the upper
loop is the head of the lower loop
so there's an association between the
two
his retort is
nevertheless
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and the way one comes from the other is
also different
lee
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why because you have to begin
with this with kuda which is we're
talking about
a different spheros so the fact that one
is mustafa from the other
does not detract an iota
from the fact that you're talking about
this is khachba
this is bina this
so as is as you're going to say that
there is an association
between the spheros as they progress one
from the other
that's true only after the fact
that we accept and understand that the
essence of each sphero
is very different than the other one
in other words don't make a mistake
thinking that the emotive
elements the emotive emanations are like
sake eliminations no completely not
however is there a progress
a process and progress for the
development
of the emotions sure
the healthier your mind is in an
organized way
and then does then your chest and your
gavura and your the ferris
are healthier what if you skip
a step and you go right to bina and you
don't access
and you don't access das then your meda
will be a lopsided media you'll have a
media
you'll have an emotion but the emotion
will be
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not exactly um
refined and that is why we see
people have emotions and many times the
emotions
are out of whack the emotions are
you know uh going in different
directions
and to the point where they become
unhealthy
and you ask what happened what happened
is that it didn't go through the process
which it needs to go through for it to
be regulated
now there are other times when
one wants to experience
a transcendental experience a
selfless experience an out of body
experience
maybe then having an emotion
directly from the nephesh from the soul
not going through the process the
the chabad system first has its benefit
and that it's also this is also
disgusting
going from the emotion directly from to
the soul
but that's the that's kind of the
exception the average
and and most uh most beneficial way
is it goes through a system the child is
a child
and the rambam says it you teach a child
you give them candies and toys and the
child gets older and says i don't want
any candies anymore
so you say you know what i'm gonna do
i'm gonna i'm gonna give you
uh i'm gonna bribe you a little bit with
things that are more
sophisticated and then after a while
becomes a teenager
and those things don't talk to him or
her
yes hillel
so what you're just saying about uh
directly from the emotion
is that sort of a uh
different understanding of the
difference between the chabad
and the
well yes and no i would say yes and no
now what do i mean does everyone
understand hilo's question
hillary's saying based on what i said
before the difference between
the media's coming as following
chabad the intellect versus the meters
going directly to the nephesh
so he's asking me would that be would
that be the difference between
the chabad style of
and i said yes and no and why did i say
yes and no
because it isn't
usually the case that the emotions
that employs
it isn't i don't want to say usually but
it's it's not it's not the average
hussaid's soul experience that's not
soul
soul hilo dancing and shouting
and clapping and thinking doesn't yet
mean
soul nephesh nephesh
is a very different experience
which which can express itself either
through chabad or through hagas
but if you're asking me this is why i
said yes or no if you're thinking
that when you see a breast liver you
know clapping and getting all ecstatic
with that clapping
and you're saying that's coming from his
nephesh i say not necessarily
it could i'm not going to rule it out
but i'm not yet convinced why
because that breast lifter learned le
coutimeran
or he heard from one of his teachers
that the way you access uh avoid this
hashem
is through this particular emotional
experience so there too hill
he's doing that because he has a certain
idea
that he learned and was taught so that's
not nefesh
that's intellect
where i was coming from okay one second
where i was coming from and asking the
question
i was thinking about what jonathan said
about uh
about the liquidity in the brain
and and what mimer said and then
i was thinking that on pet scans things
that show electrical activity in the
brain
there are it's not that when
when certain kinds of prosthesis go on
it's not that the whole brain is not
being used it's that
some areas get a more concentrated dose
of energy
so so uh so what i was thinking about
was
uh that that there's a pathway through
chabad
you know an intellectual pathway that
lights up the brain in a certain way and
there's a pathway
through through that lights up the brain
in a circle
that's true yes yes so that that i would
say yes
i thought i thought you were asking me
about chagas coming directly from
nephesh
and and and and what i was saying is
that nephesh is a very different
experience
nephesh is a spontaneous experience
and that spontaneity can express itself
through khabad and through hagas
so in in hasidis there is a
uh there is brought it's called
midis the godless and midos the kapnos
you understand you remember those terms
and what does it mean
meat is the cotnus miniature motion
miniature small meadows
means the middles as they are a result
of seiko neither is the godless
are the middles the way they come
directly from nephesh
this needs more conversation and maybe
at another time let us continue
but but but moshe so far is it clear
what i'm saying
yeah okay yeah thank you let's go
further peyton
says these differences
are the overall the specific
not the general difference between the
sphere ice
but the specific difference between them
the yeah sure definitely buzzfeed
that ever says now there's another
additional
general difference in this video is
commercial and because as they are in
each realm
of you know we talk about the four
worlds that's hilos
bria etc and asia what's the acronym for
them
each one has a subset
of ten spheres known as the emanations
that that are that are are
a a part of that realm
so the realm sets the agenda
in other words let's let's say it a
little more simple
here we have jonasin moshe myself and
hillel each one of us are different
now we all have ten speeders
but uranus is tense feet is is based on
youngster
and mine is based on me and you're as
much as you and hillary orlando
you can't say we all but what do you
mean it's intellect in its emotions
of course it's intellected emotions but
who are you
and depending on who you are that's the
way your intelligent emotions are
it's exactly what he's saying here so
the ten spheros
of habria are very different than the
ten spheres of oil and
cedar it's a very different direction
so we have you know again what's the
different direction
whatever whatever whatever axilla's
bria you'd see it in a cr whatever each
one is
then the emanations the tools and
instruments
manifest what the agenda is
so you can't compare agendas because
each world
just like each person has another agenda
okay one person is participating in the
sheer
because they want to understand deep
casitas another person wants to
get a bottom line result from the mimer
a third person is looking for emotional
support
right now it's not that you can't have
two things you can have two things at
the same time
but the fact is that there are
differences
welcome back yoni okay
so now he says the aina
on page 11 line four four five
formation to the world of creation and
so too vaina doing the cloud
you can't compare at all the tenths
features of the world of creation last
year is that
the names in each world in each realm
are the
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they're the same names and their and
their idea
of they they being intellect
emotive and practical are the see
other three are the same three trends
look further nevertheless
the muslim they're very different in
their core essence
because the agenda is not set by them
the agenda set
by the world they're in
we set our agenda of emotions and
intellect and practicality depending on
each one of
who we are so the fact that we are all
now studying a mimer and trying to
understand with our sequel
nevertheless it's yoni sejo
so everyone is going to understand it
based on who they are
although we're all using cycle so we are
using
all together every one of us is using
our
intellectual tool to understand the
content
but nevertheless we process it
differently because
we are different let's continue inside
the whole
so this clarifies to us
the way these emanations
express themselves in our meshrama in
our soul
our soul powers are divided into two
categories
one called makifum the encompassing
peripheral cochleas
and number two opinion the inner
cocos
and within these two categories you have
makifi mushroom
kesser the crown which we spoke about
yesterday
in the intellect and the emotions
look what he says pleasure
and will the willpower
they are what we call peripheral
cohosts
they don't have a specific
aver a limb a a
a place where you could say this is
their abode
leo's kayla malaya mello shame them
because
when you have pleasure
pleasure is not limited to the brain
you you could pleasure is any
any part of your body can have pleasure
and so too will power
yes it's recognized in the brain you
hear that
because the brain is the seat of
intelligence and thought an idea
but but where is the where is the
pleasure felt
it can be felt in your feet when you put
it into a hot mikvah
or a hot tub and you say ah
so the recognition of of it being the
schmuck is in the brain
but that's not the seat of the pleasure
and the same is true with willpower well
clothes i have fish
that's what he says and the difference
is expressed
because of the particular
place in which the pleasure
and the will power is revealed but from
the perspective
of the soul the ain't very
i desire to swim i desire
to draw i desire to climb
this and i get pleasure from that
it's so there's no one place where you
could say
pleasure this is the seat of pleasure
let's continue
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or the person says i don't want this or
i don't have pleasure from it
this is all what we call
now we go to what's called quechua's
premium the inner
kaijus
they invest themselves in specific
places
where is the seat the brain in the head
not in your toes and not in your heart
um
where is the seat of emotions who
believe it's in the heart
have you ever heard of someone trying to
feel with intellect yeah
and it's a problem
feeling at the end of the day is with
the heart
to appreciate feeling we use intellect
you know you know like in a shidduch
right
they call it chemistry right did they
what what's the shot
the shot is a left there should be some
attraction between the male and the
female
that's not in the head and if it's in
the head we
you know it's not it's not great
now i'm not saying the other end you
have to have heart palpitations when you
meet your
you know you go on a shitty date then
you and even when you're engaged
it doesn't say that in the toyota if it
happens it happens
there needs to be a a fine balance
between the two
but but what if a person and people
wrote to the rapper you should know
they don't have feelings and that ever
many times told them continue
meeting and then after a while if you
still don't have the feelings
then you it's not for each other you're
not for each other
because feelings of one second you only
feel
em feelings need to be in the heart
again i'm not saying heart palpitations
but some feeling i'll tell you
a personal uh a personal story to
clarify
but i met my wife so it was a very nice
time
but i wrote to the rabbi i said you know
i have very very good friends
and i don't have a i don't have a re i
don't feel any real difference between
sitting with my wife
this girl and my friends
this was in the beginning and that ever
told me
he answered me continue meeting so i
understood right away he's telling me
this is your
and cut it out you know but um
even if you don't believe that continue
meeting and you will develop and see
that sitting
with a woman for a date for a shidduch
is different than sitting with your best
male friend
and indeed it was that way
but it took another time and another
time yes
my question is about this the point is
talking about here
about stimulation then the
that is supposed to be coming from the
heart and the attraction from the heart
not necessarily from the into it is that
maybe i mean i i don't know if it's only
a hasidah's thing but
is that the reason why there's a a big
problem today let's say yeshiva world
where the concepts the torah concepts
are are being learned intellectually
where you know someone goes to punish or
he goes to me or he's learning all day
14 hours a day not talking about a guy
who goes and smokes
you know you know like outside not guys
it's really 13 14 hours
but there's no opportunity to
to use the heart meaning to to use the
heart would be
missing doing this physical you know
going to a hospital
so the things that are being taught it's
very nice to intellect but it's not
penetrating to the heart because
it's without myosin we need to do the
mice
okay so implementation right but but
you'll need there's three things
intellect emotions and mycin
i think you're really putting the focus
on my sin and that's another discussion
okay but that's not what we're
discussing here right now we're not not
yet
we're talking here about intellect
versus emotions
now the truth is and you know i've been
writing a lot about this
the muslim movement was exactly
what you're identifying they hoped
that that would be the counter
i don't counter not the counter the um
complementary
tool to express emotions
in the litvisher you know gamora
oriented world
but as uh i forget who wrote
and i quoted it in my book on the
rubbish elevation the rebbe
he wrote this i think in the 20s or 30s
he said
we have lost to the khasid
and this is the 20s and 30s
it didn't work it did not work and
i could tell you it didn't work what do
i mean
you could count on your fingers the
amount of yeshivas and students
within the yeshivas who study muslims
seriously
not saying there aren't any there are
but
if you could take 10 000 students if you
show me
maybe i don't know
500 300 i'll be very surprised
so there is something to that
that the musser has is
completely um
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out of the real realm of serious study
you know some yeshivas they have a
15-minute
muslim say there and you know either you
you excuse the expression we're used to
saying yeshiva yoni will appreciate
the saying and you're honest and you'll
probably also remember it you shoved the
bull
you know your that's what we
used to call it it was a nice way of
saying
you just waste your time with idle
chatter
and those that don't do that but some
are learning this and someone learning
that
you know it there isn't a cohesiveness
an organized way
now let's talk about hasidis hasidis too
has not yet permeated the world of
khasiddhishi yeshivas
and this you should know was a pet peeve
of the rebbe
the rabbit when he met with any other
with with these other with other rebbers
and other you know
sadiq the number one thing i just wrote
about this yesterday
the number one thing that he wanted for
them is to implement in their yeshiva
serious study of casitas they wouldn't
do it they would not do it
and they argued because it wasn't their
messiah okay
i understand it wasn't their messora but
that itself
needs to be looked at even if it's not
your miserable but we're living at a
time
where people and the rebel would say are
reading magazines and newspapers
that's what the rebels said 50 60 years
ago you imagine what you would say today
what they're looking at right
so you're telling me it's not that this
i heard from the rebel you're telling me
it's not the messora
you're out of your mind the messiah is
not to read newspapers and they're
reading newspapers
so get with it make up your mind
so there's a breakdown in in the
learning of hasidis too
but it's true what you identified that
the
that the there needs to be a place
for expression of emotions and it's very
good point you made because and i want
to tell you
learning you know in yeshiva yeshiva in
morristown
in particular we had a chance
to invest in this type of activity that
you're describing
to to to to take the intellectual
learning which we learned qasidis deep
hasidis
and ideas to think about and make you
really
think like a heart piece of gamora with
rashi and tasters and
and then gavin then to davin and
davening meant
thinking like we've learned the other
day
to comprehend very well godly ideas
and that you did in your darvening with
the purpose that when you say
you should really believe and mean what
you're saying
fortunate is man who sits in the home of
hashem so it's not just
lip service but your mama's ashrae
you feel lucky you know what i'm saying
so it takes a a mindset
what you're identifying is true you know
when you give students an opportunity to
do
hesed it's a whole different experience
mind you i want to let you know that
in some of the heads there yeshivas
inshallah for example
you know that they on hanukkah they they
go
they go on what we would call me and and
they're not the only ones so i i don't
think it's fair to say
you know that the babbage is the only
ones there
are other yeshivas maybe more in the
hester line of yeshivas
which are reaching out but absolutely
the the mice the mice is very important
but you know to change an old horse
is very difficult you know when you're
steeped
in a certain way it's so hard to break
the
the pattern it's like the age-old
argument
you're using an art school gamora in the
yeshiva based madrid
shame on you
what do you mean shame on you i i i i
don't understand otherwise
and i want to learn my brother-in-law
found in a dumpster in chariot in
sharing
that's because of uh politics i have it
now
oh good for you no but but but you only
that's
what this happened recently or once upon
a years ago
right that's when there was a
controversy but that's because
i'm not talking about i'm talking about
like it's a busha
you should you know i heard i was
looking
and i asked about this this fellow that
you know he learns he knows how to learn
and i was told by his friend
he learns a lot and he knows how to
learn but he learns from
from an english gemara from an art
scroll for welford or whatever shines
out whatever
because he wants to understand and he's
accomplished in learning
now i understand there's something to a
traditional gamora i'm i'm from that
generation i can i can appreciate it
but i've come to understand that
the world we're in today we need that
as a tool and it's a very good tool so
whether it's tanya from lessons in tanya
or you know someone said well why don't
you sit with a harusa and learn the
tanya
or let's say hillel was learning
um you know from the
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what are you out of your mind
chismaveras is so rich
and so wonderful to explain what's
otherwise
not understood by most people and it's
not a second
it's a not a compromise because i know
what siddhis movers is
i sit with the with the editor every
shop is a shoe
and i know his quality and his staff and
i know what they're putting into it
but they're making it would say i would
say
that um i've been through the tanya
three or four times
uh and with a uh
and they that the uh the depth that the
assita schmidwere
showed me that i was missing sixty
seventy eighty percent of it
a hundred percent because they i mean
it's so
dense every every word is so deep right
right right i also just done another
thing i was just
uh it stayed in my mind uh i did uh
so i saw research i just did a little
google search
and i wanted to tell you all something
fascinating about the um
the moistness in the right in the right
the fast set and the
and the right side of the hemisphere but
apparently one of the very early
researchers in the anatomy of the brain
whose name was broca
he found the right hemisphere would be
heavier
by two grams of the male and a male
person but less heavy and a female which
has implications for
being it seems and um
and uh um and that and that it is
duck uh you know heavier than the left
side so uh
so so it seems like the um
the uh that that which the cobalam have
said
and what neuroscience is catching up to
are are similar
it would seem like that probably that
difference is due to the
liquid is due to moistness like
like say so so again
the difference between male and females
please repeat that again is what
so the right hemisphere is heavier
uh than the left hemisphere more in
males than in females
and the right is and and the writers
associate with what
with well i was
well uh the writer is associated with uh
with kaufman and the left with beena
right
right correct but the right side then
also is associated with acid
correct the male side being tested so it
seems like there are implications
uh at that level for a lot of what we
discussed very interesting yeah it's a
fascinating
it's a fascinating type of a study you
know
um hillel maybe you're the one to
finally put it out you know put it out
begin with with a paper and then develop
it into a book i think
i'm very i'm very serious i mean i've
run twirsky god bless him you know
if his mind is working and you could
talk to him he would be a person to talk
to about these ideas
does he still come to bet chemist does
he still come
does rabbit i don't know i haven't seen
i saw him at one point
in this in the spring uh
or maybe it was right before the corona
separation so
i don't i don't know what's happening
now
okay
have a great travis everyone we'll see
everyone sunday morning zai gazoo take
care