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Holon #2- Rabbi Yochanon Gurary: Rebbe hand picks first group of EY Shluchim - RC Dalfin
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part and talk a little bit about um
your chose you and the other but talk a
little bit about that or you want to
talk about your your years in Crown
Heights also let's start with okay okay
fine
I was in the you already married I was
married and you married
Lame. You got married lame. And you
married Braman's daughter, right? Now,
one sec. I'm curious. She was an
Israeli. She was an Israeli. And you're
an American. How did you meet? And she
asked the Reb. And the Reb told her to
go right away to New York. She asked the
Reb what about finding a about me? About
me? She Uhhuh. But But how? Who told you
about her? How do you Who told me about
her? Yeah. My grandfather was very close
with
my and he was that's what I wanted to
know. I got it. Okay. So she asked the
she and the said she should come right
away to New York.
El 1975
1975. Yeah.
Right.
And told that she go to speak for the
for the girls that tell her
about was tell us why she's coming to
New York, right? And that's it.
And on Yeah. and
asking we met three times was what's
Sunday Monday Tuesday it was Thursday
was
okay wrote to me like this wrote as the
had a
few this is not okay okay and circle
around her
name and wrote
That's was special. It's not
that and that's it. And then we were
there. So was the intent I'm just
curious. Were you going to before you
got to were you going to go live back in
or stay in America? Not at all. I didn't
think
about my father had a bookstore. So a
very big I remember I know
that is Yeah. I I have the sh this is my
this is my shas.
And he printed.
Yeah. Okay.
And so what he wanted you to take over
or what?
Was automatic because I was very sick.
Right. You in English we call obsession.
Obsession. Okay. I remember there was a
I don't want to say the name of the was
he took
a came to the store and I used to go
every Friday from the Bedford I used to
go to to the store I right where was
your father's store at the time on canal
street and then in the lower east side
lower east side okay and first it was
street and on street. Then uh he came in
and he wanted to buy his for his aim
something. So he said, "Give me the
biggest setical for for the for the
Asian." You mean the largest the largest
and nicest.
So
So I I told him, "Listen, this just came
out non layers." Yeah. give it to get
some my father was very not happy with
me mixing into the
business and my father told
me friend was a friend take a don't
mixing because I I told him was this is
good and this is not good right right
there was
there called cinema you know yeah
sure have it so uh
So he he I told him this is not for you.
This is what this is for you. I don't
want to say his name but you probably
know who it is. Okay. Okay. That's all.
And uh so so I used to come like every
every Friday or every day that was was a
diamond or something. I used to come to
the store. So your father your father's
store was unique in the collection of in
in this form. It was the biggest biggest
farm store that had for bigger than big.
Big by my father. Really? Yakir. Yakir.
Big not. No the son
and
no. Those
two every day. I go to go to the store
all the time. I buy this home. So you
they used to buy by you. They used to
buy my father. Uhhuh.
They used to buy. But so what he brought
in at that time? Yes. He brought
containers and he's still
sell there was a a guy by the name of
Tosha Ber. Yeah. The Tosha Reba. No, his
name is Tosha. He has he has a shoe
store on Oh, on 16th Avenue. I
know. I can get away with No, you can't.
Go ahead.
So
it came to
article. So my father he loved books.
Yeah. Yeah. He had so when the the
container used to come so he couldn't
wait and he used to go into the
container to take off. So so and uh I I
used to go after him. Uhhuh. Mhm. That's
it. Okay. He said let's go back to the
So you married your wife and go ahead
and then I went to Kyu interest I went
to went to interesting is that I asked
the we should get married she was
a we know what's going to be that was
the answer what what what did he mean by
right we don't know what will be in
there? So this is what these words and
meaning you shouldn't make it there.
Well, let it
out. And then I go then I was
interesting is that I went in twice to
my wife when
he after
became she teach.
Yeah. And then again before we left we
again went
to go second.
Okay. That's it. And then
And my wife had a a girl. Yeah. That's
right. That's from Berlin's wife. Yes.
It's your daughter. Your oldest
daughter. Your oldest child. My oldest
child, right? And this was a 1976
already. She was 1976. She's not
involved. Yeah. But this is before you
went on. No. Wait. Wait. I was in the
hospital waiting that the nurse to come
out. Which hospital? Do you remember
from my monities? No.
Where is on Leffort Avenue? Left. Left
hospital. Yeah. So you're waiting for
her to wait when you go. So I'm standing
by the telephone because I'll pay phone
pay phone. And I was waiting for the
nurse to come out and say it's a boy or
a girl. And as soon as she came out,
it's a girl.
And the same minute a client called me
on his on his telephone and he says
now our was interesting. It's not like
the other
right
our picked out each one each
one not not like the second third
was and mine they were the ones that
were
and then there was oh some some was some
was not but but uh Yeah, but I like what
picked out each one. So who are the
others? Yetric was
came after me. And yel Rosenfeld. Yel
Rosenfeld and was all of a s.
Yeah. And
he was a he came he came
also when came to
we came to Yes. And you were learning in
the that label Kaplan made. Exactly. And
there were three invas. We were 11 11.
We were nine by the light. Yeah. And
three was 11 together which was raised
safely in
and Kramer which is
Oh, he's now okay. Well, he was a
in there was
book. No book. No book. No, no, we'll
get to No
later. And so these were both then.
Yeah, we're both grindmen. What's
with
and Friedman
and Goldberg? Okay. So, let me
understand. And what what did the Reb
say is your what you should be doing?
Sitting and learning. Sitting very
clear. Clear.
It was a whole
Yeah. But you
had kids before we
left when together they sent us,
right? Tell me if you remember. I'm
curious cuz how how would how was his
could you see that that he was like
elated? Because the English word
elated for how did you know the rebb
this was by him like
spoke the first time
was and he didn't say what to nothing
just he said and he wants to go
to and then
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Right. Um I'm curious. Did this was
label Kaplan the one who asked that he
he would like to do have
notite. Did it come from label Kaplan? I
don't know that I can't tell you. I
don't know. I don't know. But was very
very very label was very special.
He was a very big
lagoy. He was in Australia, you know.
Yeah.
By my Yeah. But but I'm I'm saying the
Reb sent him Gimmel didn't need to like
start and and it was it was it was such
a place that you can't believe that you
come from America, you go fast. You mean
Dam in 1973? You won't believe it.
Unbelievable. I remember. What? What do
you mean? It was what poor poor bro
houses broken. Everything
was the the the shul in
in when we came the the roof was fell
down was the old sh that was a shabbach.
You mean the where Marzelle is? Marzel
came after me. Yeah. Right. But that sh
that sh I think it's that he built also.
Yes. I know that's separate. Yeah. No
visual. There was a bathroom was
outside. Yeah.
And uh I I have something interesting to
show
you in when I came. So I found there an
older older where in one of the shoes in
this in this in the sho
right was possible. Right. So I fixed it
how much I could. I took a sim to fix it
and I I made a mantel
the over here. The didn't have a scent.
Yeah. I have a sh here. So this across
the across the street not across the
street connected to the house. Uhhuh.
And Oh, so your shabul is here. My
by Right. So Friday night here, right?
And afternoon. Yeah, like this. I go to
the show and Yeah. How how long of a
walk is it or whatever? Yeah. I got it.
But how long? How long about 15 minutes
10 minutes? 15 minutes. Okay.
The was the original
that you made or was before your time?
When I when I came it was a it was a
what was it called?
Yeah. What was this? And it was
Ashkinaz. It was Ashkan. And you became
DV right away. Right away. I became DV
there. They they No, they call How did
you become this episode? Okay. Okay. One
second. One second. Yeah. Okay.
And that's it. And what were we talking
about? And we're talking about
um the sh don't remember what we said
before. Tell me this. Tell me the story
with the sh with the with the sh. No,
I'm telling about the
It's like this. Oh, you saying about the
safety so I you made the mental I had
the mental till today and I fix the
secret about 10 times. It's again and
again. One second. How old is the
safety? Do you know? What do you mean
like five 600 years? No, not five 600.
It's from Russia. From Russia. From
Russia. Russia. I mean a lot of a lot.
It's very close to Kabad. Uhhuh. Yeah.
And uh that's it and I fixed it and
fixed it and fixed it and till I went
and I took it home and I put a different
metal on it but because it was cold
right okay so how did now how many years
were you in Kyu and so was two years now
the two these first two years didn't let
anybody go right back to New