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Hechaltzu chptr 13b- is what you're doing genuine? Kapote, Rabbeinu Tams, Beard- RC Dalfin
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So we're middle of chapter 13
and in this pic alterba talks about
sorry the rebashab who's the author of
this mimer talks about the virtue of
discipline as a as an asoid
usually you talk about when you serve
hashem it should be you guys have heard
it thousands of times
why why is that because if If you want
to if you WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU HAVE
TO BE EXCITED. You have to have joy.
Imagine
you come into a shoe and you see someone
ding and his face is all we the word in
Yiddish is
fakmur means
the whole world is on his shoulders.
EVERYTHING'S ON HIS SHOULDERS. WHAT'S
HAPPENING GAZA? WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
MANI? WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH LEBAVICH?
What's happening with this? What's
happening with that?
And like, hey, can't you be happy for A
FEW MINUTES? ENJOY THE MOMENT.
So avoid overall
the the the notion of sima very much
enhances avoid hashem in this chapter
that hashab says there's another way of
serving hashem just as important through
accountability
discipline
frustration
gura.
So now the question is how is that?
And the answer is if it's your own
stickick
and you tak you know it's like you feel
you're carrying the world on your
shoulders then go back to sleep. Try
start all over again. You woke up on the
wrong side.
But if
it's part of a hashem, then you're doing
it because God wants you to do it. It's
it's Hashem's
way which he wants right now. So for
example,
we're coming from the
is not it's
now doesn't mean you shouldn't shake
someone's hand in a shoe and say
or smile to them. what it means on
yourself. CHECK YOURSELF OUT. HEY, are
you overeating? Are you oversleeping?
Are you are you gossiping? YOU KNOW,
COME DOWN ON YOURSELF where you want to
improve.
So, y in in a hashem is about God
wanting y, not you wanting. If it's you
wanting, go try go back. Hashem doesn't
want you your
because usually 99% of the time I would
say your ya messes you up. You become
angry,
despondent
and you know messed up.
Yeah, that's what happens.
You know when you're in the of Simha,
for example, can you overdo Simka?
You know some I'm sure we all meet
sometimes a person who's very jolly and
very this or very that usually
outwardly
it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't cause
much problems and I use the word
outwardly I don't want to go into this
now because it's totally off the subject
because I'm very suspicious of people
who are too happy.
And I think people that are too too
happy, there's something wrong
somewhere.
And we have uh Hillil, our local so
social worker, to probably uh hopefully
back that up. From what I've seen,
there's a problem, you know, and and
some of those people use this this uh
this facade of being too happy to cover
up
very deep issues that are need to be
dealt with.
But outwardly, so I'm not talking about
that. But outwardly
a guy makes a joke, a guy kibbitz, you
know. Okay. But imagine a a guy who's
who's who's
angry. Just one angry just one anger
causes a ruckus. It causes a bomb to
explode. It causes like why you why are
you angry? you know,
so it's it's much harder, I think, to
use
as an avoid. And that's what the Rashab
is getting at here, that in order to use
as an avoid, you need to really refine
the Y. How do you refine the Y?
How do you refine the Y? So he says, now
we're at a point, we're middle of
chapter 13. He says, "When you think
about how awesome and go and and and
great Hashem is to the point where
everything you do is
this is where we're at." And he's going
to give a mush now. But before that,
before you give a mush, you have to
understand what's bothering him that he
needs to give a mush. And that what's
bothering me is how can you say that
when I do something that's genuine in in
in service of God in a way of discipline
it's considered sinful.
So he uses the word from the ter from
from another Hebrew word used in
lacking
lacking. I want Moshe to hear this.
Yesterday and Hill yesterday
I shared a very important definition of
the balatana that people gloss over.
What does Rah mean bad
ra?
So the classical answer in all of Jewish
literature from the Gmorra toidas to
Kabala evil. There's good and there's
evil.
Alter in chapter six of Tanya quotes the
zadesh
and he says that means anything that is
not godly.
You hear the difference? There's a
difference between being bad and evil
versus non-godly. AND ALTERB SAYS THAT'S
REALLY WHAT MEANS. So therefore take one
second. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.
>> I'm sorry. I just I have to ask when we
say non-godly,
but everything
>> Wait, wait. You didn't let me finish.
OKAY, DON'T JUMP THE GUN. I'm I'm going
to explain.
I know it needs explanation. That's why
I'm a teacher. Anyway, so
neutrality
like every like Moa started to say and I
cut him off everything.
Misha I think was gonna say everything
is non-godly
but the way the world the Jewish world
>> the opposite everything is godly
>> everything is godly really your car is
godly
>> well yeah it's made from people made
it's made from metal metal comes from
the earth it's there's plastic I mean it
everything is
>> it's not holy
>> I are let me ask you do YOU HAVE TO DO
you have to bury a car
Now you you you said no holy kadusha
maybe that that's something else.
>> So that's that's what the alterb is
saying. Okay let me kadusha
the alterb is saying that the the
definition
of of ra is that it is not kadusha it is
not holy. I use the word it is not
godly.
It is not holy. It's neutrality.
Now neutrality something that's neutral
the way the world looks at it IS EITHER
GOOD OR BAD. And alter chapter 6 says no
no no no there's another category it's
called neutrality and it's up to you to
shle it into the domain of good or the
domain of bad. I.e. your car that I just
mentioned
it's neutrality mush. It's not holiness.
And the proof is you DON'T HAVE TO BURY
IT after it finish its life cycle,
right? Or whatever else we're using. In
other words, there's a domain called
neutrality.
It's not holy and it's not so it's not
kosh, it's not kadusha and it's not
godly. Godly in the sense of kadusha.
Maybe that's what's bothering you. When
I say non-godly, it's not kadusha.
Anything that is not kadusha is
non-godly.
It's neutrality. And what we need to do
is and we have the free will. That's the
whole idea of to either elevate it to
kadusha or it descends
to
kipa.
It descends to a domain of negativity
because the way of the world is that if
you don't elevate you fall
st being stagnant is only temporary. You
will fall.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. But we see Okay. But we see also
especially in this morning's
>> Yes.
>> Right. We're hearing we're learning
about right
and and you know and to
etc. So when we say either it's it's
uplifted or it falls and you said the
sensipa. So again, which kipas no it's
really neutral or one of the three
>> it fall it it is it it it is kipas no
and it if not elevated it falls into
kipa but it is kipas no
it is the translucent kipa
which means it is already it's kipa
it's not kadusha
But do you would you define something
that's
as neutral?
>> Yes. Delta says it's not my definition.
Delta says it in Tanya.
>> Right. And you're asking why why does he
say that? It's because he's comparing it
to Kadusha. Kadusha.
But so I want to go back. We're getting
I'm going to go back there. So says here
something when you when when when thee
thinks about oh I ded and I learned and
I gave to and I'm doing I'm doing great
things it's it pales in comparison to
the awesomeness and of of Hashem the
exaltedness of Hashem and therefore it's
lacking
okay when we talk about I told you the
story you know of the the rimmanov the
great sadic
rimanov
and forget the other two
and it was
by time and one sees the other running
towards him as he's coming away from the
pond and he says where are you running
it was a student he says rebi teacher
I'm running to pick up your sins that
you just threw into the the pond
what's considered by the rebi by the
teacher sin sins is considered by the
student mitzvah. was considered by the
stu by the by the by the student the
mitzvah is considered by a by by the
rebi and also by hashem lacking
this concept is a is a truism in all of
we see it with we see it with the
so now that brings it back without
saying all this he says it only two
words
it's considered a sin so turn now to um
again the page over here that I have is
um hold on
I have page 103 but
>> he he said uh that it might
>> what page IS IT WHAT PAGE do you have
>> 106
>> 106 okay
and this is the saying the teaching of
razal
and he kneled to earth.
Why did he kneel? Because he saw the
attribute of truth.
Who can stand before God's truthfulness?
So out of humility, he kneels.
It says elsewhere and he gives the
reference. Skip the parenthesis.
What?
>> I'm sorry. Where are you? I'm lost.
>> Um, I'm in the middle of chapter 13.
After yesterday, we left off at the
words
I thought we were I thought we
>> Where is that?
>> A little bit before where you started.
Where my is
maybe I slept through the end of
yesterday.
>> Hold on. Hold on. You're right. No, you
are right. I am wrong. Thank you. So,
what page is that for everybody?
>> That's 106.
>> 106. Okay.
For example,
an awesome great kingdom,
but not based on his greatness. You just
serve him the way you think you should
serve him.
This is considered a slap in his face.
When you say to serve hill, it has to be
not based on your idea of service but
based on the nead in Hebrew. You guys
went to is nifal. What does nifal mean?
The other person the survey if I
whatever the word is in English. Okay.
So
you can't compare service towards a
regular fellow, a simple fellow
as compared TO THE SERVICE THAT that is
required for a great king.
But if you serve the melik in a in a in
a similar way to serving just a SIMPLE
PERSON,
that's considered a sin. You've sinned.
And it's like you rebelled against the
king.
So here IT IS. I'M SERVING HASHEM.
FOOL. WHO ARE YOU SERVING? HASHEM.
That's the way YOU SERVE HASHEM. THAT'S
THE WAY YOU SAY RONALD. YOU SERVE Ronald
Reagan.
Hashem.
So ask yourself this question.
Am I serving Hashem or am I serving a
mortal?
And this
says
what you're doing by equating the
service of a simpleton to the service
that and serving a king that way.
You're humiliating the honor of the
king. That's the muscle. Here comes the
niml. The moral
will understand them in heavenly in
heavenly terms
based on the awesomeness and exaltedness
of the infinite hashem.
There is no
the concept of searching and finding God
is beyond.
Next page.
Even
you hear what HE SAYS? HE'S NOT TALKING
ABOUT you and I.
>> Maybe you're you're all sadikim, but I'm
not. So, so even the of
pairs in comparison
to God's awesomeness.
Braz
I gotta tell you a little joke. I just
can't help myself.
Arashiva from Alituh Shiva walks into
a store to buy himself a new frock. This
actually happened. I heard it from
someone who was in the store at the same
time.
His wife comes is a is with him. He
looks into the mirror
and he asks her,
"How does it look on me?"
She says, "Okay." Puts on a second one.
"How does it look on me?" He says, "Oh,
this this looks good." He says, "Yes,
the paro is for needs to be a nice one."
You got it. think when one thinks of
himself as a safer ta we're in big
trouble
you can be a rashiva you can be a big
rebby you but GET OVER IT COMPARED TO
HASHEM YOU'RE A nada okay you're a
you're a void is a nada so humble
yourself even though you're a big rasha
and you have lots of talid and on and on
and you should know that this concept
you know there were many bak for that
came from merit as well. Their parents
live here. They come back for the young
and I talked to them. You see the the
difference really between learning inab
rudimentary level. I'm not talking now
about scholarship but this concept of
humility is fundamental. I wouldn't say
just butid
theic etho theidic ethos of humility
what we're learning here begins with
this concept you understand
when when when you don't put this as a
focus and emphasis then you what happens
is you automatically start believing
yourself that you are some as we say
Rashad is an acronym
roola
rashad. You might hear that, right? I
MEAN, I I AM THE HEAD OF THE THE GO. I
AM THE THE GREATEST RABBI OF THE GO. You
know,
I heard from a Jew. One second. I heard
from a Jew who's already passed on. He
he he was he was an older person. He
told me he was at a uh at a a hespit
here in Brooklyn in 19 I think 49 for
some great rub a rabbi and some
literature got up and he said
SO AND SO PASSED on and he and he cries
blah blah blah blah blah and he says and
he's this rash is getting old and I'm
already an old man and I'm an old man
and I'm an old man I'm an old
Yes, you
>> I I was thinking as we were saying as
we're talking about this in a parallel
kind of realm where this idea kind of
applies is when we think of about taking
on certain habos to whether it's a
specific lush or practice you know
practices where where we think I'm going
to do something additional or extra and
because we're at a moment in our lives
of like uh you So, we're inspired, but
we have to also uh you know, when we get
inspired, we can sometimes get grandiose
and think think that we're think we're
up for things in an ongoing way that
that will be hard to support. right now
that
>> you know one thing in my own life when
uh
certain point I was learning uh the
practices in of kamo and he was talking
about
Tom to villain you know and I really
thought to myself I should be wearing
the bra to villain so but but I wasn't
sure I was holding that I could do it so
I decided I marked the date and I said
I'm going to contemplate ask myself each
day when I take off my regular debil. Am
I going to resent having to put on a se
a second pair of tabilla? You know, am I
I'm going to be up for it? I'm going to
go through the whole cycle of a year.
And at the end of the year, I was okay
with taking it on. But I think that I've
seen many people take on things that
that they can't really support in their
life.
>> Right. And that's a very good point that
that you bring up. Very very important.
A that's why everyone should have a and
more importantly a mashia
and uh or a very good friend someone
like I've told you many times when I was
in yeshiva an 18 19 year old student my
my my mashov
blessed memory told me to get myself
someone in the base medish who can give
it to me over the head
who will say it the way it is and not
because he's my good friend he'll he
keep his mouth shut but you know one
second so Everyone needs to have a a a
friend, a very good friend, a mashpia,
maybe even a spouse. But you know the
the the more distant they are, they
could look at you more objectively and
say, you know, I think you are ready or
not ready. That's number one. Number
two, number two,
it is very very important as you say to
to know yourself.
Now I would say that that an exception
to that rule
is if you for example since you
mentioned rams
if a person considers themselves
today notab of the and the rash but of
the last reba right in 1976 he comes out
right when I I was by mitzvah in 74 when
I was by mitzvah I didn't put on film
because we didn't raen we didn't put on
rabenotans
But in my time the custom was that you
waited to 18 years old and then you
would ask the rebba at am I do you feel
that I'm spiritually ready to put on
rams that was the way it was the
standard in kabad in till 1976.
So
>> do you have an insight into how that
changed or why the rebi changed that?
Well, wait. I It's not an inside the Reb
SAID IT BY FABRANK. It's published. You
can read it and you should and learn it.
>> I'm I'm aware of that.
>> Yeah. And one second. One second. Ho.
>> I never understood
>> the the Reb said that since the world
it's darker and darker, there's more,
there's more,
we need more light. And that that the
Reb gave that as a reason to support his
suggestion that all barits boys should
consider putting on film from bar
mitzvah because the kaduca of the rabbin
will bring more light into the world. So
if one is and today you all know every
standard labavicha boy at bar mitzvah
gets two parrot fillins and it cost YOU
TODAY $4,000 INSTEAD of $2,000.
It's amazing from what I paid for a
parrot fillin in 1974. My grandfather
show and bought me a pair of fillin, you
know, $500, $400. Anyway, $300, A
BEAUTIFUL LARGE PAIR OF FILLIN arer
knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Anyway, so the reb came out. So you see
that so that's where a lab or someone
who values the Reb's opinion spiritual
says hey I don't see it just like you
know in a sense maybe you're saying here
like you know darkness there's darkness
always THERE WAS DOCTORS IN 1940 WHEN
there was a holocaust why don't we put
on film then very good question right so
I heard from my mashia that part of the
belief in that sadi if you believe that
that's person's exotic is that he
reveals to the world what the world
needs at a certain time.
So, so in 1940 as dark and as bad, IT
NEEDED SOMETHING ELSE. IT didn't need
to. So, the previous rabbi didn't say
you should put on rams or for that
matter the pisia
who I saw this clip that I think you
sent yesterday. I really thank you.
Touched me so much.
>> Sent it. Yeah, it was very beautiful.
>> Oh, that's so beautiful. And by the way,
IS THAT HOWARD Stern's father?
>> I don't know who that is.
>> His name is Ben Stern BECAUSE HOWARD HOW
HOWARD STERN'S FATHER LIVED TO 99.
AND THIS PERSON PASSED AWAY IN 2002. I
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE HE WOULD BE HOWARD
STERN'S FATHER,
but
>> I don't know who that is.
>> Oh, forget it. Forget it. Forget it.
>> Ma's laughing.
IS LIKE
just forget it. Scrap that. You don't
need to know. It's better you don't
know. Anyway, so so the point the point
the point is
so I'm just I'm answering your point
that when the Reba So the Reba saw
something that we didn't see. So all of
a sudden HE MAKES A SUGGESTION. BY THE
WAY, THE didn't say you're not a laber
if you don't do that. I want to make
that clear.
What if someone after 1976 doesn't buy
his son two pairs of film? Is he not a
lab? God forbid
if he's kabatic is a kabatnik. He for
some reason whether he doesn't have the
funds or he thinks like you like you're
suggesting maybe that my son will put
him on and not and frankly
seeing you know it's interesting you
mentioned this cuz my own family I I see
people sometimes who falter a little bit
with their fill in and I asked myself
why should why should he get two pairs
of fill at $4,000 today if maybe he
won't put them on when HE'S MATURE
ENOUGH TO PUT A M BUY HIM A SECOND ONE.
SO I I RELATE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, you
know, but we have to know that this is
the concept
of
there's a certain point where you get to
where
Psalm 905 to
and Alashemadic
who is a a conduit to Hashem
it is reveals. So most I would say go on
the bandwagon.
So I think that you know what you're
sharing is is excellent and the same
>> it came out it came out before you were
18 after you had been bar mitzvah. So
what did you do? Did you take it on
right away or did you
>> you know I I I I don't remember. I
imagine I did but I don't remember. I
would have to I don't remember but I
imagine I did. But you know the same
issue comes up with the kapota with the
long and for some with with with with
with with
and all of these things. Um
it's a it's a it's a give and take. It
really is because sometimes people get
overly excited and they jump in and then
they jump out. And that's one thing that
the Reba and others cautioned. I don't
know if if they is heard it from you
know the Boston and others but this idea
that
>> Mosha you have Mosha from Burough Park.
>> Yeah.
>> Tell people who wanted to start putting
on a strim.
>> Yeah.
>> He would say you want to put it on now
and then you're going to see how people
behave that wear it. You want to take it
off and then what are you going to do?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And and that's a that's such
a good point.
you know, if you're putting it on
because you want to join the club and
then you see that, you know, then don't
put it on. In other words, it has to be
this. And I and I think what you told
us, Hillo, I'm I'm so appreciative that
you said that that you tested yourself
for a year. That's that's a substantial
test. That's a substantial test. And
again, you know, some some of us are
not, you know, we're wired differently
and and and and we've seen there are
people that they have to belong and if
they jump in, THEY BELONG, THEY GO, THEY
go they go till the end of their life
that way. But then there are others that
start falling. The Reb passed on
a there's a big controversy. We spoke
about this the is maybe we spoke about
osandir about the a in kites too and
with the in Brooklyn was against the adv
and right so I'm in touch with one of
the leaders for the adv and he's a fine
fine gentleman a f gentleman a scholarly
and bodaka I'm in touch with them so he
he mentions certain people who says
they're for the I said what their father
are is adamantly against he said he
knows
But what happens is when they see their
kids and grandkids carrying a shabas,
they put a zip on their mouth and all
the sudden they shut up.
Okay. I I I understand it. So, you know,
the rams and and with the and the
capotas and the gartik and the and the
pis,
you know, there are people that they
need that. I told you I saw that in
Marin County by my own congregants. I
saw it. I lived it. They needed that to
feel part. And guess what? They grew and
they're still from today. They're really
Bali chuva, you know, ka kavod. But in
the beginning they needed that
identification.
Then there are others who don't need
that and in fact resent it or and and
and it's just a matter of time and some
of the times we do it because of a
spouse, a husband or a wife, you know,
or a community. So it's it's it's a
balance. You should know that the Reba
was very careful and I don't I don't
know if he I don't know if he ever but
seldom did he tell someone to put on a
long record. You know that
seldom if ever I never heard of a story
on the contrary when someone came to him
months later and put on a maybe he made
a certain comment it's very nice to see
you in a you know stuff like that but in
kabad you know kabad kabatnik in Russia
weren't they weren't wearing the he wore
a ket like Hill's wearing something like
Hill's wearing and and a little longer
of a jacket like some of the old
war in in in Hungary and that was it.
The the the the long record was
dedicated, you know, to who? To their
fathers and grandfathers who were, you
know, real, but they were, you know,
they were regular. They looked at
themselves as, you know, regular and
they didn't feel they are at a level
where they should put on long. That's
why there's still some today. Look,
Rabiel Rabiel KHAN WHO WAS
THE OF the Mr. Mr. Lab as far as putting
the Reb's
to into the world and teaching it and
all that. He wore during the week a
short recckle,
not a long record. And I once brought
him to I was once we were once doing an
event in my for the yeshiva, the bad
yeshiva my asked him to come as the
guest and he so I he so I took him. So I
drove up this house and he comes out in
a short
in his weekday uh weekday
and then he comes sits down. He says one
second. He goes back upstairs and he
comes back with his long his shabas
kaput and he said to me because he knew
I was questioning what's going on. He
said you know because they it's an event
where other are coming and they and and
and they'll be dressed with their long
uh rec. It's more respectful I should go
that way you know. So there's a time and
place where conforming is holy and
there's a time and place where it's
fake. It's fake and only you and your
mashia and your good friend and your rub
and your spouse only you guys can
decide. We didn't get to learn the rest
today. We'll learn it tomorrow. But this
was a very very important discussion not
just for now but forever and um other
people should listen to this because
it'll it'll help them long term. this
this thing Hill what you brought up I
don't know if you realized at the time
but it it's a very very important issue
um you know it's a very important issue
and I would say today I want to just one
one vote it's not only today an issue
with Balichua and you know us older
people it's it's it's it's an issue for
the new generation of kids who went to
the yeshivas
it's it's an issue because you know they
falter sometimes and they go up and they
go down. So, you know, here here you
have to ask yourself, let's see the
beard. The beard.
Okay, we have pretty much full beard
beards, right? No, a lot of the young
people today, you all know, they they
trim their beard or they take their
beard off and things like that. So, a
labicha fa father or a bust in a father
wants his kid to have a beard. I mean,
that's that's the tradition that he he's
supporting. So, how do you deal with
that? You know, h how do you how do you
deal with these things? You know, in
kabad, my father taught me three things
makes you three things. A beard, going
to a yeshiva, and identifying with
in this case. Those the three Rs that my
FATHER TAUGHT ME. NO. AND I'M SORRY.
SORRY. NOT AND TAKING A SHORT HAIRCUT.
My father was into that from yeshiva. In
other words, not leaving a lot of hair,
especially not frontal hair, what we
call a chup, you know, the make yourself
nice. My father was adamant. We got a
haircut. And my mother was, you know,
grew up in Costa Rica and she was a came
to Radio City, which I've told you about
in the past. And, you know, she's more
of a modern girl. And here, her little
son, but me, I HAD CURLS. I HAVE I had
beautiful red curls. And my father took
them off completely. He was like and you
know it was very upsetting in a sense.
My father said you know we made an
agreement the belongs to me and uh the
other STUFF IS YOURS THE TELEVISION AND
WHATEVER else is yours. So we have an
agreement. So I'm saying the beard in
lab in kabad was an ikar.
It was an iikar you know.
Now the question is now now what what do
you do today when lots of there's young
labages that are taking their beard off
or trimming it off or playing with it
and all that you know how do you how do
you deal with these things and the and I
think that there's it's important to to
discuss these things too to discuss
these things and to to have an
understanding
and you know and that you you don't
become ice labavaturer you don't become
not a laber BECAUSE YOU TOOK YOUR beard
off it It it's it's something to talk
about, you know, why you're doing it.
You know what I'm saying? Can we have an
open discussion? That that's healthy.
But it's not that because you don't want
you don't want to alienate the person to
the point where your son, your grandson,
etc. your friend's son, where they'll
say, "Ah, you're a fanatic. I don't want
anything to do with it with you." What
have you gained? WHAT WHAT HAVE YOU
GAINED? NOTHING. KEEP THE DIALOGUE OPEN.
My granddaughter's learned is is in in
the Golden Goolan Heights in Kabad
school out there. Right. The other day
she she writes me a note on WhatsApp.
Zadei, she says, "Can you translate a
letter in the Reb's Igor Codes?"
I WOULD NEVER THOUGHT SHE WOULD HAVE,
YOU KNOW, but we I keep the doors open,
you know. Let's dialogue, let's talk,
you know. Right now, she's not dressing
in accordance with it levels that I
would like. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, we're
going to get there, you know, we'll work
on it. And and and that's the way the
world is today. So, this issue I'm I'm
very thankful. Very thankful. Anyone
else want to say anything or uh
I wanted to say that just an
encapsulation like in my mind I say
there's a there's a a huge difference
between somebody who looks like a cusset
and somebody who acts like a cusset. You
can look at Hill and me on the Zoom
here. I'm dressed like one, but he'll
act like one. When he said that, he put
for himself. No, this is m true. That
you put for a for a year that you
thought about in a voda. Mama, that is
real casidus. Yeah,
>> that's the real deal.
>> That's right. I I I'm a I'm I'm
embarrassed to say that too many people
throughout all the the the world ofidus
they they look they look at
Kamoro their outside is not like they're
inside.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's why that's why when I
when I heard it from Hill I I was blown
away cuz that's like you say real aa
that that's really you know looking at
yourself you know. So, uh, you opened up
not a can of worms, you opened up a
Gavald Gazak this morning, Hill, thank
you very much. Have a great day,
everyone.
>> Yeah. Let me just say it's because I
have had too much painful history in my
life of jumping into things without
giving it enough thought that I have
learned from painful personal
experience.
>> Okay. Okay. But so that that's that's
good. That's good. You learn from
experience. That's good. Have a great
day everyone. See you one tomorrow. Take
care. Great share. Bye-bye.