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Hechaltzu chptr 10a- Virtues of telling another person abt your issues - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin
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So today we're learning au
it's almost onethird of the safer
chapter 10.
Let's first uh recap page 73
uh the test. Let's look at the kit.
Maybe
when a person has baseless hatred in he
doesn't participate in the other
person's sim
and the other person's agony.
Now, this doesn't mean that you can't
get to Kaimv's um wedding
if you can't because it's in America. It
doesn't mean you're not his friend
there situations where
you can't participate. It doesn't mean
you have
what we mean is that when you hear when
you hear
that he he made a shak for his son, are
you happy?
Do you feel happy
or
do you just are indifferent?
That's
that's a sign there's something inside
that's not not you know not good or if
there's a person who has tar whatever
that sar is agony suffering
and again you're totally indifferent
that shows that there's something inside
you which he calls here
then we learned
Um,
a person regarding their own sorrow,
their own torture, their own punishment,
their own suffering.
The Gmorra says it's not
you have to check yourself out and
basically
blame yourself.
You know, the English word is not a
great word, but find something that
within yourself that you know you're not
doing the way you should be doing it,
and that could quite well be the cause.
We don't know. Do we know for sure? No.
But we have what to
to look at. So, that's all about
justifying
your own agony.
And conversely, when it comes to someone
else, sadly,
you have to always be meritorious
and we had a good discussion about this
yesterday. Now let's go on to picute and
here the talks about the same issue velv
but regarding
and
as as we know from as we know from
other of the and
that this was a a major theme of theirs.
because
they were surrounded by
different kind of Eden
and it's not just that the Reb is
looking at litfox he's looking at his
own because this entire M also was
addressed and caused by his own
okay so someone shouldn't say oh uh the
Reb is pointing fingers at the lit fox
he's pointing fingers at himself and at
is too
but nevertheless you have to understand
the greater the greater situation.
So for example the
when he was in Ria in Latvia and you
take a look at the discourses that he
said over the years that he was there
and he was there from 1928 to 1933 I
believe. Yeah. you know traveling back
and traveling different places America
but that was his his home
you'll see that that he talks some he
talks about issues that were relevant to
RIA Jews which were more on the yakish
side
even even though RIA is technically
Latia but there was an influence of that
type of mentality
and both in the in the things that
needed correction and also things that
are positive, you know, their
meticulousness.
Then when he comes to Poland, the
previous 1933, he's there to 39 to the
war. You take a look at the discourses
over those six years and you could see
kind of a pattern of a certain type of
message
because he's addressing people in
Poland. People in Poland of Gidim and
Alexander and big spodics and payers
they're not yakas at all.
It's another type of crowd.
And so
again, I'm not going to tell you that we
can pinpoint every single mimer. I
can't. I don't think anyone can. But as
a general, as general rule, I think you
could
see this.
So the Reb, I also noticed certain myim,
he he hones in on a certain element.
Again, I would say most of the are very
deep and intellectual and it's
it's godly words. It's
you know like I told you several weeks
ago that the way that many times started
a was to understand the concept of
he didn't begin with a para
he wasn't a rabbi giving a sermon or a
house rabbi or a saying it's parasit
shabis and how does this apply to our
life and give a sermon on that's not
what the rashab did.
He started off saying there was a
concept of godliness that he was
studying a concept of godliness that he
felt the world needs at this or or or it
went through him whether he felt it or
he didn't feel it regardless and he
revealed it and he said it
right and that's why there were times
that there was no
there was no beginning and end like you
know
is the beginning of the mimer and at the
end there's the answers to the questions
are not the mitzvah of it. That's not
the way. I'm not saying it was never
that way, but plenty of times it wasn't
that way because of my
is
and and and and this if if you if you
understand this better,
it's a whole different it's a whole
different level. It's not a drusher. A
my says you're being taken into the
apple of of the Reb's eye and who the
and the Reb is being taken into the
apple of God's eye. You're in heaven.
When you hear a you're not in heaven. I
don't care if it's a god ab or it's it's
down to earth. That's the difference
between a
sika that the rebba gave and a mimer. A
mimer is a leus.
That's that's this is the the belief in
in Kabad
that the the inspires that sadic and to
the point where he he he lets out words
that are revealing a certain godliness
into the world at that time.
So overall this is true for aidis of
aabadb
but there were times where you could see
that the honed in on certain issues and
this is one of those myim because over
here in yesterday's chapter remember
what he said he spoke about yeah you
remember the
he said it and the so he's clearly
identif ifying issues in the community
arguments between the
theim the
so that velv.
So now he goes to this topic of dealing
with those that feel themselves very
very holy.
How? Because they learn
and they d and they're they're very very
you know connected they feel. But the
Reb says what's with your
Let's learn inside
chapter 10
74. If you have the book,
you will find more. Look what he says
here is he he adds the word. He didn't
have to add the word.
But means even more. So
the more holy and the more long your
pays are, the more you can have. You get
it?
You know, due to our is in other words,
unfortunately
in English would be unfortunately
by those that serve
every single person.
I love it.
He builds a bummer. You know what a bum
is? A bummer is a pile of stones. He
builds a a structure. I am the holy guy.
You know, he he he raises the
small little stones and he builds a
whole pile. It's called bama bunna.
>> The head the head honcho.
>> Yeah.
And it creates a whole philosophy
and details and a whole system.
Hey whether it be the study of
it's based on his understanding and it
has to be this way.
So he creates
a method in but it's
He serves Hashem but it's based on
his comprehension understanding
causing that he doesn't unite with the
other guy in Bish.
Now let me make it clear we're not
talking about here you is learning and
Velv understands it one way. Y
understands it another way. That's not
what we're talking about. We're talking
about where one individual comes to
conclusion, I know it, I understand it,
and it's only my way of understanding.
That's what we're talking about.
And therefore, he doesn't give room for
the other person in the base medish, in
the in the study hall, etc.
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says that the truth is that a a primary
foundational truth when it comes to
learning and serving
is
you hear this you got to talk with each
other
you got to join with each other how do
you understand this what do you think
about this do you think it's a genuine
feeling or it's bluff
Why is the last time you've heard two
people speak about the service of God?
Is it is it on target or is it bluff?
That's what we're talking about over
here.
And this was by the way a cloud not just
in kabad but in all and was called the
brotherhood the br shaft
the brotherliness.
I don't want to say laavda but you know
like in a reformed temple they I know
from when I came to Marin County and
there were some former reformed people
who belong to reformed temple and they
came to kabad they had a brother a a a
club a brotherhood right a brotherhood
there's the sisterhood and the
brotherhood guess what
>> the men's club
>> yeah sometimes they call it brotherhood
sometimes men's club whatever the truth
is that's what the Rash is saying here
That's what should be between
yen. They should they should feel
brotherly to each other.
And if you feel brotherly, you discuss
what's going on. I had a good, you know,
I'm I'm I'm having a difficulty in this
area and that area. Really, you know,
you know, today we would call this
talking to a mashp
a mad a guide. But with the Rashab here,
he's not putting on, you know, any
names. He's just saying two people
you know each other you diving in the
same sh you learn the same bish
talk with each other talk it out that's
the point here
there is an expression
that iron
iron sharpens iron so does one person
sharp sharpen the mind of the other
person when they bounce things off each
other. So it's not a competition or I'm
trying to tell him my fool.
If you share your kushes, if you share
your novelty and insight, he'll hear it
and he'll either say it makes sense, it
doesn't make sense. Maybe tweak it this
way, maybe you you know what I'm saying?
So it's like one piece of iron sharpens
the other piece of iron. Continuing
he says
because when you bounce something off
the other person you will not be able to
include
oh my opinion my understanding is the oh
really
you got to prove it's the
so when you when you when you share it
with someone else and the person
challenges you or m you know then you
can come to a real em versus just coming
to making your own conclusion and not
sharing it. That's what he says here.
And when you hear the opinion of your
friend
and they discuss the word pilpoo,
dissertation,
they go back and forth
in in you know in argumentation and in
understanding. It's called ppull
with truth. Not
we're talking about each one is trying
to understand it and they're dialoguing
then you come to the truth. You come to
understanding it correctly.
Okay.
So the Rash is is teaching us here.
Don't
don't think that you come to the true
conclusions just concluding it yourself.
Rather, when will you come to the right
conclusion?
When you share and you dialogue and you
argue it out and you talk it out with a
with someone else.
That's what he says.
That's this is this was said regarding
the study of so too regarding service of
Hashem.
The two people reveal to each other
what's on their heart
and they talk about it. What's on their
heart not about you know yesterday's
supper. I mean, listen, if you don't
have supper, that's also a problem.
We're talking about
my father is
so I went to see him the other day. So,
he told me that he was he 770 upstairs
outside of the Reb's room
cuz he has a bench over there. So, he
can sit on the bench. He's 88.
So he was talking to someone and he said
you know it's the are you doing chuva
and the guy looks at him like
it's like here is not the time to talk
about these things here we have to davin
my father doesn't let go
and he says look at me he says I'm 88
he says I think about shuva and he says
I don't know he says you So I pretty
much he's by himself. My mother passed
away 18 years ago, you know. Yeah, he
has grandchildren to come in to say
hello, blah blah blah. But pretty much
he's on his own.
So he says he doesn't have a wife.
He's 88.
He says generally he doesn't have
inappropriate thoughts. He's talking to
this guy. He's talking to this probably
30 40 year old, you know.
And I I was thinking about it as he was
telling me this like you know this is
this is what the Reb is talking about
here.
Now by the way it doesn't mean you
should talk to anyone and everyone. No
we're talking about someone who's you
have an affinity you have a relationship
you you want you you can have a
relationship.
This was an important thing in in
Yiddish kite and is for sure. The idea
of talking with each other about nik le
nik means the plagues of the heart the
the maladies of the heart meaning the
issues invo
back to the text.
There are many good details or there are
many good details. The is now going to
say why you should talk out your
maladies that are bothering you in your
heart regarding you your
to another person. One
there are many things that a person
doesn't realize themsself. He says in
means grab but in this context it means
he himself doesn't realize he doesn't
get it he doesn't find it
selflove covers everything he doesn't
come he doesn't find it in himself
over all iniquity or over all sin
love covers up right self love Those the
sensitivity
surely
self love covers up all faults
and the faults are in this case
character traits
and justifying why you behave this way
and why you have such a character blah
blah blah blah blah. Why? Because you
find justification.
The love that a person has for himself
by nature covers up the faults.
But when you talk it out to a friend,
the other person will say, "Hey, chap."
Uh-uh. Uhuh. And I'll say, "Wait a
second here. I there's an issue here."
That's one advantage.
to talking to another person was you
yourself
cover it up by nature it's natural
self love covers up justifies what we do
but the other person is the other person
so he doesn't have that aasma that you
have in this situation and he will tell
you you're making a wrong turn you need
to correct this that's number one.
Number two, point number two, why it's
important to talk out the issues to
someone else.
When you reveal the the issues of the
heart
in speaking it out in words
while during the time when you're
actually speaking it out, saying it,
you have great agony
much more
that you had before. So this point is
let's say let's say you do realize your
shortcomings your fault but it doesn't
touch you as deeply
when you just think about it. But when
you talk it out to someone else and
you're talking with sense, not just, you
know, mimicking words, it's going to
hurt you more inside and it's going to
hurt you in the sense that
hey, so so so you'll take it in a much
more serious way. So the second point is
that the actual debour
is is constructive is helpful to deal
with the malady.
That's his second point.
And when you feel the great the greater
s of the of the issue at hand, you will
have more regret
on all the things that are no good
and you will remove your desire to
continue in that vein.
This will cause that there'll be a a
great amount of tick. He doesn't say
that it'll be completely eliminated but
he says it will really make a big
difference in the tick in the process of
chuva of refining of of correcting the
issue.
And this is the concept we're coming up
to
confession of words
says when he usually when he says it
means it's brought in and and
there's a great tick for our nephesh
when we specify in words the particular
transgression. Now you understand why
we're banging away al five times and
again during the silage it's not just um
you know we have nothing to do to bang
away it's like absurd
each time you say the and again as long
as you know what you're saying which is
simply
in this way we're not talking about
kabala now that itself saying the words
and and and and I know that this is true
because I've tried it when you say those
words and you think about what you're
saying on on a very rudimentary level,
it it's it's
helpful. It's therapeutic. It really is.
Again, how long does it last? Not long
cuz you got another just a few pages
down.
But that's the concept. So the Reb says
that talking out the malady that inem to
your friend
is a confession
in words which
helps the tick of the issue that needs
to be corrected
says why is this because when it comes
into words
then it shows that it's relevant to you
in Yiddish
on means touches. It touches you deeply.
H how do you know? Cuz you've been
talking about it. When you talk about
something, it shows that you're fully
animated. It's it's it's touched you. It
means it really means something to you.
Whereas when
in your own thought, it's very nice, but
it hasn't yet touched you deeply. it
when it comes out bit deeper. Especially
when it comes out but deeper to another
person
boy did you show that you touched you.
You're so pained that you're even
willing to share with someone else. And
this of course is difficult.
It's a very difficult aid. A lot of
people I shouldn't say all of us in
different times we have we can't do
this. We failed to do this.
Now many times we'll justify say what I
should go share my private issues with
with the person here you know yeah we
nod oursel we nod our heads and shoe and
we didn't b you know you know it's the
difference between a childhood teenhood
or school friend and someone who you
meet later in life that's what I find
with my buddy buddies you know we could
talk about anything or say anything cuz
we grew together
those that are you know plenty of fine
people and all of that but it's a
different level it's a different level
it's a different level at least this is
the way we were taught in the kabad
yeshiva system
is this this like you know this
bruteshaft as I mentioned this
brotherliness
and and and and it's a whole different
realm but the rebba the rebba is not you
know uh making distinctions between this
yeshiva that he's just talking about the
idea the importance of talking out
issues to another person
and he says
then it shows that the issue at hand
really touches the in inner core of your
soul
showing that you have great pain
and you regret
An example of this says what it says
says
a person you have an anxiety a worry
literally it means what
you should divert your attention
the come along the say
because it's with a
with a sin
from the word
went out
to talk or the famous word in a
Reb says a talk that's with a sin
to divert would be technically with a
to divert your thoughts from.
So says,
so the meaning is that when a person has
an anxiety, divert it, put it aside, but
it's not written with a it's written
with a sin. Say the
talk it out to other people. And when
you talk it out to other people, that
itself will help you divert the thought.
the anxiety will be will be lessened
will be
you know you'll be able to deal with it.
We see when a person speaks about
something that's very painful to him.
It it causes a greater uh sense of agony
in themselves.
So one second. So what's the Reb's point
to listen? So to the saying, hey, why
why do you want to pay yourself more? If
by me talking this out to you, it's
going to bring up issues for me here
with this. No, hello. This is not
psychology.
It's going to bring up issues for me and
I'm going to be more guilt feel more
guilty. Why should I do it? Says the
next page 78
afterwards
it'll inherit
it'll become lighter. Yes. Initially
>> go ahead.
>> I just want to say I use this quote from
the in my website.
>> Excellent. So initially
>> yeah initially it's t more difficult.
It's more painful when you have to talk
about the maladies and the issues.
Therapy this right talk it out. It's
it's hard. You don't want but when you
do you walk away with
I got it off my chest will continue
tomorrow but this is
good stuff
>> good stuff here well you got credit for
pushing me to learn this mimer
>> take care see everyone tomorrow byebye
have a great day byebye That's