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Find True Meaning in Your Life - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin
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Practical Chasidus w Rabbi Chaim Dalfin - Maamar HaHalilah 1940 #2
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page 361 take these please please turn
off your neutral mics so we're on page
361 the minor is a halogen bahagia
positive the hilum that was said in
conjunction with the suicide uh the the
Suder and following you'd based on was
in 1940 giving the thanks to a shine for
sparing the life of the pivot ever and
in this minor he says that a pika cities
of the Kabbalah hi it says Azam brush
how Russian bhai governor Mel says I
will praise a sham with my life and I
will sing for sham with ID might my
might and it says that I I refers to the
neshamah and ninety refers to the book
and why is the goof called why is the
party called ID because lady means also
has the meaning by something else some
other thing implying it's not the e car
it's not the main thing it's only
ancillary it's tough hill so if you're
compared to the sold in the Sherman to
the goof the fisherman's he cleared the
goofy stuff him and then that other
questions
why does lover them LF not not if if if
this is the interpretation then why does
it say haha lower hashem you came up KY
is the name of god of you cave of k
associated with higher and as i'm
analytic ibid and why the name of Oh Kim
associated with the book that's what he
was a quest me and to answer that he
brings a concept the Kabbalah known as
Titus and Calum the lights and the
vessels the energies and the receptacle
for the energies and he says that the
name youth cave of K is the source for
the energies and the name of Elohim is
the so
for the vessels so that's in
capitalistic terms and then he turns it
over to I've either how that have the
supplies in service of a salmon daily
life and he begins by explaining that
there's two activities to to avoid this
one is called avoid this a goof and once
called avoid this other Shama and
yesterday we learned about avoid this
ago now a person needs to should
meditate them and reflect on the way he
relates to a shammy and who is he really
in his in his real deep core essence and
and realizing that he's distant from her
sherman that - Gnaeus - penis is more
important to him than roughness and the
proof is that he has whom he is he has
corporeality
and when he will become frustrated with
his own situation and shed tears to the
to to a know the whom dias and we find
the gosh miss this is the avoid our cold
avoidance a goof this is what we learnt
yesterday and now I'll go into the minor
it's it's four of five lines from the
bottom the two last words were hardly
the same it's odd the evaders and it's a
dandy sharma now he turns to the second
activity known as the evader from the
perspective of the neshamah what is this
whoever know the so delicous this is to
comprehend godly ideas to really delve
into godly thoughts over his later dose
and to cause an arousal of other of
for us in the union or for Hashem a true
arousal of a feeling of love or or of
fear requires a deep understanding it's
not it's not enough just to say I love
God and fear God you could say from
today to tomorrow and it's not the case
you could convince yourself and think it
is but unless you have an understanding
if you say I love God you have to know
what God is to love it and if you say
you fear us and you need to know what
I've said mister feeling so the first
thing is okay well let's hope let's hope
it's talking about a sham and not the
woman or a man right
but anyway anyway but the truth is the
truth is to love a person you have to
know that you know yeah you know not in
an appropriate context of if you don't
really know person being a spouse Peter
sitter being a child you know and and
and you probably know and those of you
still have young children will probably
go as they become older teenagers
sometimes your teenager turns to you he
says you don't really know me you think
you know me and they give you that
argument you don't really know me and as
they get older and they have their own
set of their ideas and their agenda and
their way of thinking and if it's
different than your way they tell you
very clearly you don't really know me
and you know sometimes it's true I dare
your child and they're raised in your
home that was then what about the last
10 years they've been out in the army or
they've been out in college or they've
been out in yeshiva and and and I am I
am and it's not a bad thing it's not a
bad thing I mean
remember when I was in Geneva 18 19 20
years old I had this feeling in a way
not in a bad way but what I was
experiencing in my life is even my
thoughts you know as much as I shared
with my parents or my father but it was
limited I was away in yeshiva so the way
you're away you seva four five six years
from eighteen seventeen eighteen to
twenty-two twenty-three that's five six
years of your life and maybe you could
say the most important time of your life
will you formulate your ideas for life
and and that's at that time when you're
not around your parents so you parents
really know you know they knew you
they knew you and this is something that
we have to be sensitive to and again it
can be painful but a smart parent and
good parenting is such that you know you
listen to the new song you listen to the
new daughter hello I see that you want
to say something hello
okay okay
anyway so I don't know who's making
noise that's very bad noise can everyone
mute themselves please so let's continue
in the - so what I'm saying is that ever
says here look what he says the avoid of
masada neshama who have Vernor by a
sufficiently coos I can't emphasize
enough how vulnerable substance Atticus
means deep delving into understanding
godliness when you want to understand
the cases when you want to understand a
piece of her locker you can't just read
it and say I know it it's not true you
don't know it maybe you can repeat like
a parakeet but you really don't
understand it because the proof is when
someone will come along who knows it
better than you and question and
challenge you you you you won't have
what they answer so
Havanna understanding requires her saga
comprehension thought and all that so
that ever says when you come to a have
earner of understanding godliness then
you will have a true arousal and feeling
of loving a sham or and fearing a ship
the Isla Barbados is ohi's and when that
takes place you ascend in your activity
methodically dagger from level to level
be evilly I said evilly you climb the
ladder and alia you become more and more
connected akibo the McGregor hello sir
Elena until you come to the highest
level and what's that chair massage same
in Ola kou shibasaki very very profound
and particular words until you become
xm1 with the godliness in Ilocos the
godliness shed their house up what is he
saying he Yakko he could have said some
Assad Sam M Horlick loose you study and
you understand so much until you become
one with the darkness it doesn't say
that it says until you become more than
with the godliness it was in the idea
number to my question why does it say
within the godliness your studying the
concept of godliness and you become one
with the tensor cuz you know section
assad same ambassador but he doesn't say
that either he says two things
Shamus odd Sam M Horlick who's shabby
huh saga what's going on over here and
this is the idea
and this is also very important this
gives us an insight to the difference
between Habad meditation and other
systems of meditation within the Jewish
world within the Hasidic world etc I'm
not talking about other types of
meditations which are outside the Jewish
realm which interestingly enough this
Friday a student follower of her flow
Makarova called me that he has a
transcript of a 1973 talk slo-mo gave at
the swatch of changhie I can't even
pronounce it
swatch a charlie retreat to June 22nd in
1973 in upstate New York where they had
four or five hundred students and kids
you know kids meaning today you know
high school those kids
youngster mostly young people and they
were doing a silent meditation using TM
and there was quite a few Jewish a lot
of Jewish people there of course and one
of them approached then asked who knew
and asked if he could come and
and give them a talk and the way it
worked is when the stand they had guest
speakers the Jeff speakers were allowed
to talk they were brought to talk but
they're all the participants have to sit
quiet and they couldn't talk attend a
retreat so someone's sending me the 8
page transcript that they made that they
made they transcribed everyone's talk
what slow most said actually sent it to
me already so but we're not talking
about those Transcendental Meditation TM
if it's done in the secure forum is a
very deserter
because it uses a mantra that's a very
deserted anyway that's another
discussion and that's why the read by
1979 actually you'd be Thomas yep in a
week or so up coming in a week I heard
the Sikh house in Kansas City as a
counselor in a camp Conyers Road I
remember listening to the talk the Rebbe
gave and he spoke about taking the
healthy part of Transcendental
Meditation
for those that need it and he said he
said he wants the professionals rabbi
Twersky dr. torski dr. Landis of Palo
Alto and others in that field and today
we would probably include Hilo's a twin
and and to take that really and it's not
to lady low because they didn't really
do it I interviewed the rabbi Twersky
maybe well in my book conversations with
the Rebbe and you could see the
transcription of our conversation and I
and he told me that he had letters but
he said that he didn't do anything about
it because he's overwhelmed with work
and between me and you he's not alibi
but requested that he has to follow the
rebels words yet he had tremendous
respect for the river but he was a
harness title customer so to drop
everything and good at the rest of him
he wasn't at that point
and and he and he told me that he hopes
one day to do it then it was still
waiting for that one day but so he well
if you want to pick up on that the Red
Bull would give you a big Yasser clear I
promise you anyway
anyway so what's this idea of Massage
sang in her le coup Shabazz over there
is how southern motion there is
understanding I want to understand what
I'm learning I want to really understand
what this means and your question in and
out and back and forth you think about
NOLA
that's called a sucker is that the
purpose of meditation of jewish
meditation in the Saban ethos that is
not the purpose of the meditation the
purpose of the meditation is to
experience the godliness that is behind
the meditation or the goddness was in
the meditation so a pure and a good
Chabad meditation is that you understand
that so well that you kind of leave the
realm of understanding
and you're overtaken by something
outside of the understanding ieave the
godliness within that concept and that
inspires you now and why is this
important because if the end all of the
meditation is just the understanding
understanding as great as it is and as
important as it is has a limitation and
not only does it have a limitation but
it has it has a place where it's good a
place where it's neutral and a place
where it's no good and we've seen this
throughout the generations particularly
during the Enlightenment movement to
have skull a movement where the entire
movement was built around Haskalah what
sauce color have under understanding and
it came to a conclusion that I told you
one of the less urine was my wife's
grandfather who was had friends they
were all Communists and they gave him
the books to read that he said it makes
a lot of sense but why must I drop God
from the equation they dropped us and
from the equation so here you see Jewish
kids bright minds in the 1910s and 20s
who were who were studying and and
educated and smart and they were from
and then they dropped there from kite
because their conclusion would say hell
alone is you don't need a you don't need
a God hospice early Hasidic teaches us
that that's not the ultimate say of
up-sale that's not the ultimate of
meditation the ultimate is that you're
inspired by what lies behind the
meditation by the one who instructs you
to meditate and that comes only when you
meditate when you reflect so it's a
catch-22 situation on one hand you have
to meditate you have to think you have
to understand at the very same time you
have to let go of that on
standing and and and kind of allow
yourself to be taken into God's world
meditation and reflection is our world
Ellie coos godliness is God's world when
you have godliness as the result of a
meditation the abbe meditation is
elevated to a place of godliness and
then you will not conclude - I want to
dump God no it's impossible
because you're now in God's domain we're
happy as before you were only in the
intellectual domain or better said in
your own domain and that is why that
ever adds near the words semi satsang in
Holly coos Shep aha subject and that's
why it calls it
Hillel yoni and everyone else abortion
what does he say he says you're elevated
a key ball and Malaika oh sure Alyona
until you come to the highest level why
does it call this yo sir Alyona yoni
because understanding something is good
being fat from my religious is great but
each doesn't yet come to the ultimate
which is experiencing god from satan
that's a very that's in and that
according to the algorithms about
considers is the highest form of worship
of God or the highest form of meditation
why because here you're combining say
hold you're taking something so cold
like say ho and you're transforming it
to godliness now what does this mean
what does this mean practically it means
that your your you know your your in the
osmosis of God and you know that
sensation at times
we have I'm walking I'm not walking on
the ground I'm walking in the air like
something takes over and you just go
along and it feels right that's it what
is what I don't hear you what turn off
distinctly please so that's the chat
that's the shot in the words at Cibola
my lady her you sir l you done took you
come to the highest level service on
same mla Koshiba so go they say that her
avoid the who said she'll assertively is
bit Telugu okay so now we have two
things avoid this a goof and I vote
decided Sharma what is the order the
order is first my friend you gotta be a
vital you goof if you got a coarse body
and you're like an animal
all of this godly stuff of meditation
ain't gonna work you have to I don't
want to use a Buddhist word but they use
the word you know empty out well have do
you have to empty yourself citizen
citizens for a song
see this talks about you have to make is
a break a clay vacant this whole concept
of see this clay vacant an empty vessel
mullet you could fill up clay Marley a
foot one second healer a full vessel
anything more you can't fill it up yes
see this mill where it's up to Tonya
where he talks about that once they they
talked about the war between the nefesh
allocate case in the nefesh Obamas and
he says that once
an official apiece kind of establishes
rulership then it seeks to to develop
rulership
I'll call either behavior on every limb
of the body
to create a kind of unity between the
beneficent and the body so hurry that's
what he means by futur go yes yes okay
yes but in this context not bug but in
this context he's referring to back to
what he calls avoid this a goof which is
what he said earlier so let's get to his
question let's get those questions so
you're right in what you're saying let's
see how it applies here so he says the
say that I've avoided kill each other
please before goof the first thing has
to be the beetle the annulment of the
goof of the physical Kapoor EW
once the annika and only afterwards
will there be his goggle so ever will be
revelation of love for God be true okay
then and he doesn't explain much about
this cuz he if he assumes we understand
that what we've been saying all along
you want to really you want to feel God
you you know get rid of you your
gubrious you can't have you're hungry
can I get cake and eat it too it doesn't
work it just doesn't work and it never
has it doesn't and it never will so if
you want to have his godless alpha you
want godly love to inspire you
yes Moshe the Vatican says your favor
can you give us a I'm certain as to this
he was a practical example difference
between gosh miss Maria site I know we
spoke about this all but at the end of
last yes to here
- okay the example that I like giving
you like let's try another example
yes yes they are used enough yes did I
used another example exercising I gave
the example you remember the example
that's someone exercises so there is
exercising mr. ma literally if you want
to be healthy you know you need your
blood pressure to go down and you need
to stay thinner and everything else and
it's healthy vehicle you know
cardiovascular system so you and then
there is you know indulgent indulging
your neck sir sizing where it takes it
takes it takes you over and and and and
you do for targeting and middle of
diving after babbling and and you're
crazed about it
so the craze about any type of gosh
Mears is the indulgence part is the
hungriest part so the first example I
gave last week was about the gravy on
top of the steak you can eat a steak
without gravy why must you have gravy
because he wanted to be W schmuck not
only is enough
gosh nice but you need to be vet or or
the or or the the Thanksgiving that in
the turkey with the with the with the
what's the culture the the cranberry
sauce why here the cranberries why do
you bury source if oh it's disgusting oh
now you're not just eating a piece of
Turkey with shame for the Thanksgiving
you're reading the turkey because you're
salvaging in the taste the salvaging the
taste is the familias the salvaging of
the exercise to the point where it
overtakes you and and and leaves your
life is who marius and and the cumbias
means the coarseness and grub tight in
the sense where you take what's neutral
and gosh me and you make of it
you make of it an e car you make of it
the the primary mode of your life line
and existence and that and that is
called cumbias - yes is the physical
world and all of its things and you see
Oh miss yes we'll come we in the suit
came in Taniya let's give you one
paucity I think you shall you you Shia
even the characters are Kenda the stone
from the wall will shout what will what
will it's out motion what will the child
it will shout I I see that you're
stepping on me
you're walking on me on the pebbles and
stones in the old city going to the
coastal you're stepping on me what right
did you have to step on me why are you
better than me
even the kid is a kenda said and what's
the answer the answer is that if I learn
and think tell you or help a yield while
I'm walking down
I'll have godly holy thoughts as I
walked down the steps the stone says
please step on me why cuz I'm about God
God created me and God put me in this
place on the on the floor to help people
work so just as Hashem intended for me
the stone to be an asset to his plan so
you human being stepping on me be the
same thing and if not you have no right
stepping on me and then inhale a million
remember it says about this passaic the
stone set screams boola-boola means you
bore sense to the person bulla you bore
what right do you have to step on me so
the stone is aghast me but when we don't
utilize the stone properly then we're
making of the stone just just something
to make us more comfortable and Kaaba
and casitas Chabad and in the Mooser
swaram they talk about this in their own
with their own verbage and Ichabod we
used the word whom the you
no matter you know so those are examples
and and I think you could find more
examples in your life you know I don't
want to go into more examples but you
can find many more examples that is
doing a mitzvah using gosh myths and
then there is even even doing a mitzvah
when you doing this and you use gah
series and we're taught by the Baal Shem
Tov the whole purpose is to use the gosh
yes yes ask yourself a question am i
using the gosh miss because the smug or
I'm using the gossip is because I also
like it now you want to indulge in it
that aspect of indulging in it that
indulgent aspect is the cumbias and that
we need to remove let's go back to the
minor in Cain so his question is how the
Layla may Meyer he should have said next
page 362 a salmon allylic ibid Tila
lover that metal should express themself
at first I think to a share with all my
might with my body which is their Vedas
how both the avocado and only afterwards
our loss and bhai appraiser said with my
life which is the service of the soul of
the summer or name a mountain
firefighter the summer while is he
preface the evader of the soul yummy the
ID to the word I to the idea of idea of
register goof that's his question
according to the interpretation Brockton
considers the previous never asks a very
very strong question that blood that
metal should have first said I sink to a
sham with my gloss and only after I
succeed in that service in that Aveda
do I also serve a sham of my new summer
because you have to begin with refining
your goof I point out to you that this
is a very similar concept to what says
in moosers sorry but the language in
class it is the flower not just
but local cities is a a non-muslim
language it's more of a national
language but the concept really here is
is the same in other words what does
musser say - I'm a rabbi say Tove
refrain from bed and do good and but
Musa spends a lot of time on talking
about the rather bed that one brings on
themselves when the indulging in in in
in the bed and Musa you know emphasizes
the punishments for that and and and all
of that you know we're asked us it is
the Baal Shem Tov's mahalik is to shine
the light to shine the light but the
signing of the light this is a mistake
people make the shining a light is is is
is meant to get rid of the bed so it's
not like oh I said them you know they
don't care about loshon Hara they don't
care about about you know our various
you know all they care about is just
doing good you know and this is a
mistake this is not true it's not at all
what the perceptive had a mind about
shank of had a mind basic you describe
okay let's go on I mean you know the
idea is that pay this our Kosovo the
meaning in this verse in chapter 146 and
Dylan said takasaka for know who our
lord senba Thalia the reason why only
governor Miller starts with I will
praise God with my soul with my life is
because that's the ultimate place that
one one should be all the hog healers
and to reach this while your day it's
through I Simon another coyote I will
sing to God with all my might so in
other words yoni mm Ella wants to make
it clear this is the objective the fact
that we have to
remove the ugly part from our character
and being and the who Mia's a hundred
percent that's not the objective don't
get stuck there
don't get stuck there that the ultimate
is to experience the godliness the other
and the continuing the he made a hollow
US embassy ie Azam relic ibid came snare
finally avoid on their two modes of
service avoid the discussion this is
known as the service of it coffee of
subjugation and number two viola this
hopko and the service known as is the
top colleges transformation and its way
stars Arabic ibid I will sing to
assemble of my mind here are later
discover this is the avoid of
subjugation he loves how the couple of
soil accepting what Hashem wants
accepting the yoke the avatars and
afterwards he knew how to kill now
sativum when you practice enough control
it becomes that the practice the hair
girl becomes that your nature this
places are goof to subjugate your body
slow your name I play look at the
next word Moshe whom to use right it
doesn't say to practice this and to
train your body to subjugate that you
shouldn't be drawn after - pious does it
say that because gosh miss is a what is
why is it is wanted it's the home race
that we have a problem with well the
holder young in my gosh Samia and
therefore all matters of gosh me is here
I can feed myself overflow yeah while do
we have a long a long way to go we
should only have what's necessary
why must you have soda with color why
can't you drink seltzer why can't you
drink water why
the answer is it tastes better that's
the truth
am I wrong unless someone can prove the
doctor told it that you must have ginger
ale when when when you have an upset you
know when you have a certain feeling and
you're not well certain times in the
ginger ale
then it's wanted what but otherwise why
do you want coca-cola Pepsi trees Diet
Coke cherry coke Apple Coke or whatever
and the same matter was vodka yeah
someone's doesn't hire you know he needs
to have cherry laconic stuff level Makai
why because he wants the added flavor
they added flavors the homebodies mother
clay what's necessary this is the
endless well I mean you know I couldn't
talk to myself we're very far from this
but in yeshiva when we were in yeshiva
this was something that we worked on in
the package I think I told you I'm not
bragging I'm not saying this just to
show up you know when I was in UC were
18 19 20 years old I didn't taste potato
chips I do taste chocolate doesn't taste
ice cream because those things were
things that I really wanted but they
were the homeless so I had a I fought
with myself sometimes succeeding
sometimes not not so there is this idea
of scoff here to subjugate and hold
yourself back and only use what is
necessary for existence because it's
like a cheaper know
no no no that's because I think in
Russia that's what they had look they
didn't have that that's bad in the in
Russian and classy them by the way since
you mentioned that just say one short
thing don't think that the Bible just
sitting Dhoni wants to say look higher
there's an account from a hustler from a
Hassan opinio Goldstein who lived in the
mid eighteen hundreds going into the
1900s and he can't affect the thick line
is buried over there and he identified
with Lubavitch acidnam say tells over
the story that one I think one young
tips reso pays off he on his travels he
stopped and Tolman he stopped in
somewhere where they were tone the
Hasidim and he said they were drinking
so much that the guy went over to the
almond in the morning after being up all
night and he was sicker and he wanted to
up say one third of the viciously Amin
so Pena goldish thing told them you're
not allowed to you're sicker and he said
I'll break your bones
I'll beat you up get away from me so so
he told so pigmy a big accepted you're
gonna beat me up I'm going to the tone
that had been telling them right now
what you're doing anymore and he went
away from the omelet
so Arkham City is left the depressions
on me cuz you know growing up I thought
oh they'll buy but you see them because
of all of the pressures and everything
else if i bringing they were saying what
i am a lot of the time and all that you
know was a thing in russian russell see
them before the war wasn't just about
that she was clear Carlina stone
kalenna kasi then thomas eden the
chernobly dynasty they did they blew
22nd higher and because vodka was a
drink of NL and also you know the
difficulties they they sometimes needed
it just to survive the first drop of rum
my yard risen was running for his life
in the 1920s and 30s fighting for the
previous Leblon the underground and
there were times that he said that he'd
have to take a lot of vodka to to be
able to do the mission you imagine going
into the enemy enemy territory yes hello
this is going to make the point that
reason why many of the drinks in Europe
in Europe were alcoholic because many
water sources for many areas were
polluted very so it became it became a
big necessary thank you I've never heard
of that that's that's the first time and
then that's a historical fact what
you're saying yes yeah here you only
hear the helo segment
very interesting yeah yeah it's like you
know yeah ok let's continue see though
amongst opposite him like but like no no
but I you know again the Polish thing
that lets you see them I don't think
we're drinking I mean it was a I don't
know to me I don't know if he knows fact
applies to all of Europe but in in
Russia you know to became kind of
the coca-cola became like a common drink
you know so it was a Russian sedum thing
you know Russian and listen to today I I
don't think you know most I see them
even even Russians even really you know
say a lot salute I am you know the
tongue of the chernobly I I mean true
that you know blur for 20 years and they
give a little grape juice when they give
tickle you know and I say to that man
they said we're not talking about
drinking now talking about saying the
high in for in the summer given in the
real a higher but they just give great
you they give grape juice and whatever a
bit worse they would be very happy
because he's very anti you alcohol and I
understand where he's coming from but
let's go back to the text
by the ball
there's no right oh yeah yeah yeah I I
have a hunch and I can't prove it that
Wyatt stayed with lebar and came
into America and I just throw whatever
post-war is because the Labov HFC them
were leading an underground most of his
left let's face it and and go babak's
was there for a very long time till the
the World War two so kind of Euston and
some of these people came to America
Texas row so the Russians I see the
cracks are bad and in America so they
still were like this Rev I've run my
yahoo I knew I was much we have mine and
you know I lived till ninety years old
and he was someone who was leading mamas
the the underground in Russia and he
would always say if you don't allow
yourself to be shifted in other words
you're not really across it by you
imagine and sometimes you would say have
to say hi and to allow yourself to be
chef because he has to do a mission he
has to open at Alma Tory has to teach
children yes to raise money and the
enemy of Stalin are looking to kill him
and right so he comes into Aris row in
1949 he comes to America in 1956 258 and
he's still under that culture so that is
why I believe that it continued in the
baggage whereas it did not continue in
the other circles so the tone the custom
that you know blur they because really
they were there wasn't there wasn't an
active strong larger group of Tomac I
see the mature noblesse I see them in
Americans only let's say let's see talk
about square right it was only the the
square ever the first one who survived
and he rebuilt and it started in the 60s
and 70s so there was a long period where
it you know and even breslav the
Bressler you know pressed in Russia
breslav had a a strong prominence and
and and and group but they're too how
many real breslav hassidim came to
america came there to throw a few now it
wasn't and it wasn't so organized god I
mean this is a factum Chabad because
they had in America a group of very
active group in the 20s from twenty six
and on who were doing already Shabbat
activities in the achievers in crime
Berlin interviewed us you know in the
community and so they continue that
tradition and they embrace those
Russians that came over and by the way
just for the record there was a hustle
in Tel Aviv who was a very because it as
I said his name was absolve emotion
everyone knows it's how bad about it and
he was a very very sharp closet remember
foot the Fox considered him like his my
spear although he wasn't a my spear in
yeshiva but it was a Hasidic Jew and a
fiery Jew and he could take a good drink
he was from a city called Neville
Neville in Russia in in there and crane
Neville is a you know they were simple
cut cuts of him butchers and there are
Bane would say I'd rather have a simple
butcher for Neville that are moskal than
an intellect from Kremenchuk Kremenchuk
were very big minds wealthy wealthy have
see them those wealthy people and in big
intellectuals so that our being said I'd
rather have a nefler cut serve then have
Clemmie Chuck here in Moscow that's the
expression right so this Alma moisture
was from Neville and he was also happy
to be a big math skill he understood
well see this and he was a city she in
any when he was far brain he took quite
a bit of Moscow and he opened his mouth
and sometimes you couldn't sit there you
couldn't sit with him because he
lambasted you and he used language that
we wouldn't hardly use and he was
talking to his nephew Shabbos
he was trying to slaughter his own
efforts how bombers was like a Bahama
and imagine it was this because it but
for him he still felt he has a behavior
in him he can turn to slow it's the
ninth he came in 35 and he's from
bringing and everyone respects him every
wants to hear and everyone jump man
asylum I said why we have a privilege of
having him in Tel Aviv and he continues
taking the Moscow and he continues
opening his mouth and people are like
someone in you have you wanted to come
to listen to because he had praise of
wisdom and you saw that this man is
living with a with a higher reality at
the same time if he feels that you're
you know not a hundred percent or
whatever he gives it into you he lets
you have it it's a for Brendan if I
bring it wasn't you know you're a great
guy you're the best
you know that's not today's therapy
sorry you know you know it was about
really it was about really getting under
your skin really getting under your skin
yes hello
the answer by faceted yes but the
previous revenue already said that the
times have changed during his time and
he would say and it's in hey Yong Yong
you'll see it not your he says you have
to for brain was out Nega without nails
without spec so so it seems like that
was the culture at a good Lubavitch if
acidic for bringin you were coming and
you had to be ready to take care at all
I remember even in my days in morristown
in the yeshiva you talking about a
nineteen eighty seven eighty eighty one
Thursday nights after learning till 1:00
2:00 in the morning we would go down
under ground that was cool the tunnels
that's where you had all the you know
the piping and for the for the facility
for the whole facility and
and we have groups and in this group and
and in this group in this group we we we
we gave it we let each other have it
you know we let each other have it and
and frankly for me it was like the best
thing because here I am you know a star
student and I you know pompous you know
not in my own work and we came Thursday
night that if I bring in your friend let
you have it's showing you that you're a
piece of garbage
why because take off someone take off
here please take off your your-your-your
thing I hear the moaning of the grass so
like if I bring in that's when you've
got a chance to humble yourself or at
least to hear it but in our days you
know it was still curtailed but but abs
on the moisture who was an authentic
Russian and who was born in the 1870s I
think you know he came from a different
planet and he didn't you know except the
1930s and 40s of various throw okay say
constant for Brendon any land baths the
casita you're not talking about lamb
Bastille it Fox or started his own
brothers and sisters he's talking about
his own friends and if he felt that
they're being forced this was a big
issue of discuss tree he let them have
it
they wrote to the previous level they
wrote to our author that ever and they
said we can't anymore and sometimes it's
vulgar you know again he had a certain
way of speaking and that ever rode him I
heard this from someone who
father-in-law was a guy by by the
previous Trevor in the 40s and he told
me and he told them and he told me the
story he wrote to the Devon that ever
wrote it back
you have to stop people are not a vessel
to hear that type of herb Lincoln in the
1935 and on and forties and in Tel Aviv
that's it it doesn't work anymore
and you have to calm down and you know
what and you know what wait hello and he
did and this shows you what kind of real
crusted it was because he preceded the
previous rabbit you have to understand
he was born before him and he came from
a different period and nevertheless the
Epis said he went cold turkey just like
a smoker who somehow asada caretta or
doctor tells him stop smoking it's
dangerous and he drops the cigarettes
the next day of the same day and that's
it
so is there in e'en as you asked Hillel
about this in the Habad ethos of the
answer is yes but today it has to be
done in a very measured way I mean I'm
gonna let you talk but I have friends we
are friends and and and and sometimes I
want to say something and I say I can't
say it because it's I just know this
person he's not able to hear it and all
it will do is create create a barrier
between us and it won't have any
positive results so why say it you know
yes you know you want to say something
it seems to me like they're called
encounter groups that were similar
similar it sounds like in practice where
you know where people would sort of tear
each other down or attack each other's
defenses and the
they ended up really falling out of
favor and being widely
disparaged in psychology they're not and
they're not practiced at alternators
nether to my knowledge and occurs to me
as well that in in the development of
communism there was this fundamental
idea of reeducation which sounds similar
the similar kind of confrontation you
know the you know how we're that people
were sort of broken down to build them
up it became the basis for for
brainwashing in in communist societies
that thought and the curse to me as
you're saying this that this kind of a
practice I can't think of an arena in
which it's used today in either
religious or secular context it really
seems to be something that has kind of
the world has moved away from at least
our world the Western world absolutely
yeah yeah and absolutely
it's that absolutely and I think when
you speak I was thinking even in let's
say Slovakia the literacy yeshiva
the old India in Slovakia in in Russia
you know in little you know one of the
tactics used there by by the the leader
of Muslim Sri Finkel and was to in a way
break down the student and make the
students feel that he needs you so you
would you would first distance him and
for the purpose and bring him closer and
it was and there was a an approach today
you know this don't work and it's not
used so you know but but nevertheless
nevertheless when I remember in the 80s
when a metal foot the first came to Los
Angeles to raise funds together grab a
right cheek for his for some
institutions not just row so you know I
would speak things before I became part
of his family and and he said to me one
time he said to me
he said to me
America's Bluff America's bluff and fake
so I said at Mendel what do you mean
like you know I mean he said it like I
remember Shabbos like 2 o'clock and he
just had finished diverting and I went
over to him to say good Shabbos and and
and he made it like as though he was
meditating about this under a stylus you
know and he said my Medicare he said it
then it's broken Russian he giveth and
he said then he said it not broken
he said no medication in English he said
the bluff is he said you tell someone to
prove they tell you it's not your
business
and he said I can't stand that he said
we were trained in Russia everything is
our business one concert to another what
are you kidding and and and actually he
he spent a lot of time later when I
married he claimed to be in 1988 in
Marin County and he stayed in my house
overnight he spent hours teaching them
and teaching me this and scolding he was
giving me listen he asked me what are
you doing now for this program and I
told them and then he said wait and then
he he criticized that he said they'll do
it this way you know because he felt I'm
receptive and I was receptive so so and
by the way his teacher was the sound the
moisture I thought is much fear so he
had this this element in him but but
I'll never forget you know the bluff of
America said is it's not your business
so it is it is a fading art today I
agree with you and that's it that's it
you know my own I want to end with this
because we have to go but my own
recollection amel story in 1980
for when I came to Marin County July 84
that summer
one of my Bala bottom who became about
sugar had a had a kidthis I think for a
child and I thought kids until someone
there who made a pledge to the people
who brought me to support the work and
he was fronting he was playing around
and they told me about it you know we
can't get the funds from him and it's
not right you know and and I'm the new
the new get the new kid on the block
and I and then I got to know him I could
see that he was playing around so acta
skittish like I'm coming youngster from
Crown Heights I took a little Alliance I
was a little tipsy and I let him have it
have to kill this and I said why are you
doing this to them you know you made a
pledge you know if you don't have the
funds say you don't have it but I got a
live set with him and that's what I did
i finishing it and it was taken in the
right way but but you know later I heard
from them you should have not done that
it was too much and what I realized is
that they're not a vessel at a facility
for Brain Gain where sometimes he could
throw a shoot someone not throwing your
you wanna kill him you heard him just
the idea like you're a jerk
they're not a vessel for that they
weren't at that time and I didn't assess
them well or maybe cuz I was tipsy I
didn't think about and I just was
expressing the way I feel which is not
the right way because you have to take
into consideration who you're talking to
on what you're doing out at what
situation so you know and then and
there's been a change I absolutely agree
with you you know in Russia and even in
my days in yeshiva if you got a shoe
thrown at you by your teacher you were a
happy camper that he cares so much about
you that he throws a shoe at you that
was the culture that we grew up in other
words there's a relationship
yeah and therefore he tells you off and
it gives you Muslim and it gives you
criticism because he loves you but
that's changed that's changed and today
it's a different situation
okay happy that we'll have to consider
tomorrow because we get out with the
office we get sidetracked but it's
important because when there's a good
interior interactive discussion so it's
important have a great day everyone
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