Farbrengen Shavous 2026 - Greater than study is action, Getzel Berger & others - RC Dalfin

So it's so we're talking a little bit about the idea of kabalo sata but also this phenomenon now that we're seeing in our communities people who are um I don't think gifted or more refined more knowledgeable have gone kind of have been accepted by their students and others as rebies as rebes as rebes of sort Let's say in you have melikman. Now obviously he he's he's a very big o with hashem. I mean that's I'm just telling you what it seems and what I hear and what I read right but there's a there's a big diff there's there's a big difference and he'll tell you that cuz he doesn't consider himself a reba even though people I think do many do. There's a big difference between aba and a a mashpia or a manik etc. as we've said on this in this class for the last 10 years or so that a Reba is a sole geologist. Now when you when you come to aba I mean again I'm I'm espousing the kabad the belief but I believe that this is an of the btotov we believe we we believe and understand that the bento and this and the who are rebes when they see you when you speak to them they're seeing not only your outer but your inner your nama a soul geologist ologist the these leaders these you know up and coming and new kind of rashiva and manheagen who are doing in a way so so much really I'm not convinced yet they're rebas that they have maybe hundreds of thousands of students and do so much for cla Israel 100%. So one of these fellas Hill this is why I was saying this is learned by this rabbi this RV in in borrow park who's become such an individual forget his name comes excuses me now and he asks me do you know about Hill Saints >> did you did you say his name or you didn't remember >> I don't remember his name I don't remember maybe it'll come to me it'll come to me he's very popular very popular he's online you on um what was on >> English speaking. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He has a beard going down to his belly button on the thinner side. He has yeshiva. And I I know people who are, you know, balabatim, not the burr and not students who learn to do yeshiva who would identify with him. you know, he he and others like him have gone away kind of from the traditional Rebassid model. The Rebassid model is a um it's a it's a rigid one. It's a rigid one. If you think about it, it's rigid because if you want to be a of of of this Reb and thisidic group, these are rules and regulations. The funny thing is that these these uh newcomers and newfounded um manheim and leaders are rigid also in different ways. But I'm not anyway it's a discussion for another time and it's still a developing story because it's too young in the history of the new found uh leaders to really talk about to understand and talk about intelligently. I'm convinced there'll be a study on this, an academic PhD study. I'm sure I'm sure there'll be one and more than one if there if there aren't any yet. So, one one of this talid who I know is a gifted boy. He's a pianist, gifted. He's gifted and he's a kazin and if he were to pursue that, he could be a major world's kazin. But he went into this yeshiva and uh you know it seems to me they're like directing him to kind of not go that direction because it's you know how could you perform as a single bucker you know you know it's like you have to be modest so and and he's 18 so I I understand anyway so he asks me do you know he asks me because he loves discussing history with me so he says do you know about someone named Hill Saitlin. I said, "Yes, I do. He's one of my students, but you probably mean Hill Zaitlin of Poland of Warso from from the early 1900s um late 1800s into the 1900s. So, when I see your name on online here, Hilo Saitlin, you were part of a a big discussion yesterday." >> Uhhuh. Um he he he he he he was um >> a a blast from the past. Yeah. Distant past. >> Yeah. A very interesting very interesting and unique individual. Someone who grew up in the kabad system of sorts in the 1800s in a kidic home and all that. Then he becomes a Moscow enlightened and he he leaves he leaves uh trunkite orthodoxy you know observance on some level I I can't tell you what level it doesn't mean that he went and you know ate on your kipper I'm not saying that but for whoever he was um he had a temporary yerida or as they say in the litnish world a rifion He became weak. I'm weak. I'm faint. Let me sit down. It's like, sorry. Please forgive me. That's my ingrain lab um cynicism. I' I ask for forgiveness all my listeners. Yes, Misha. >> I I've heard in the litish world they call it here in person had like a mash bear. A mash bear really means a nervous breakdown. No. Yeah, but it's not necessarily a mash bear, but from from their perspective, it's a mash bear. A person who chooses he doesn't want to be religious anymore for whatever reason. He had a mash bear. But okay, be that as a man. Anyway, so Hillland goes through this stage and and you're talking here about a a master, a genius, a gifted person. You're not talking about, you know, this is an ordinary uh this is a a special human being in in in mind and heart and a character um on earth. I mean that's that's from what I understand. And then he goes through this phase and then he becomes a baleshua and the pictures you see of him is his beard is all the way down. He's like holy, holy, holy. He looks like the alterb of 200 years ago. Then and then you look at his writings. I don't know if you've seen some of his writings. They're brilliant. >> Yeah, I have a number of his and writings from >> they they're brilliant. And not only they're brilliant, but his writing of classical is so different yet so it it's tremendous. When the first time that I saw it, I said, "Wow, this is gold." You know, another writer who who captured Kabad in a in with in a with a pen of gold was Eleazar Steinman. He wrote a a seven, eight, five, six volume series. It's in Hebrew. Um I forget what it's called oridus. Tremendous work. Tremendous. I I used this for my research and writing because they're not coming from >> I never heard that's a name I have not heard. >> Yeah. You look >> the other guys heard that name. >> Look, you look him up online, Eleazar Steinman. >> Okay. and he was around in the 50s and the 60s and the maybe the 70s. Um the Reb corresponded with him and the Reb told of who was the one who wrote Safra told us of Kabad and he told them to open up the the treasures for Ston because you know the inner circle doesn't want to open up you know the secrets you know they weren't we're not talking about any you know but still you know he's an outsider ider like you know you're going to open it up to an academic that that's not religious and doesn't really have the the kishkas of of kabad and you're opening up these sensitive letters all kinds of periods the said yeah again you see the rebba's the vision and he was right on because styon took it and wrote such a work and because he's not coming from the kabad kind of culture and the yeshiva. It's fascinating. It's fascinating to be able to express some of these same ideas in an um in a independent way with a new language. You know, RABSTEIN DID SOME OF THAT TOO. You should know Adinstein is not a traditionalist. He's very much not a traditionalist. And that's why Benet Brahen company had a big problem with it to the point of burning his books because Steinult was was not and I know this from from him you know talking in 770 toidim and he is scolding them and and is on one side all these big are there and he's blasting them how you know this is called work this is called doing for the like you SHOULD BE WORKING 24/7 SEVEN WHICH STEINELS DID HE WAS working around the clock you he slept in eight but point is that you know so was a very much independent even his explanation on Tanya if you compare his to some of the traditional kabad uh books on Tanya it's very different I'm not even talking about the psych psychological part which he uses lots of in his Tanya burya but even inhat it's It's it's so we find that so Hilo Satellan during his time was such a person he was a Zionist a strong Zionist and he wrote about it in one of in the really was a Zionist >> his belief in Msiah tremendous tremendous you know and here's a person coming from me from kabad lineage real kabad lineage going through hculla and everything that the 1880s and and on brought to the Jewish world leaving kind of the tradition to some degree and then making a full Uturn and becoming a cable about the Shoua. I mean this I mean I don't want to say this but all about Yeshua was we should all be this way that whatever we we go through and we come back to you know we should make this full circle that we're at the end of our life you know we're really uh plugged in and Nebuchi was murdered in the uh Warsel ghetto I believe in 1942 that's just a little bit >> there's a powerful there's a powerful story in the book the unconquerable spirit that about how uh Hill Zaitlin when he was called to the gathering place at for the trains to Awitz that he um he apparently stood up and made a speech. Uh he spoke there and he said Jews are our death is now assured. The only thing that remains to be determined is the manner of our death. Apparently he started started a riot there. Um a resistance there. Those were that was the last time he was seen. >> Yeah. Well, it makes sense. >> Had a pay he had written on the Zohar under his arm. Uh so he spent many of his those last few years I think it was um he he w he was in in a like in a in a room all by himself, you know. He couldn't go out and in Warsaw there until he was ga gathered up. It's a heartbreaking and heroic story. >> Yeah. Well, as you say, you said it well. Heartbreaking and heroic because you know now he had a son Aaron Aaron Zeland who was a writer in Row. Look him up. Aaron Zeland. Now they say he >> and in America he spar also spent time at Dropsy College in in Philadelphia. Okay. Many years, right? Okay. Now, some of the works I think he wrote or translated. No, I'm but and but I I heard that sometimes, you know, he he added or took away he made whatever. But but by and large um Aaron wasn't like his father you know but um just an interesting uh you know we come across these individuals in our history that's you know Hillkland till recently was totally forgotten at least in the world in the in the American world you know in the academic world um really you know yes Mosa >> I just question about another individual of similar in a similar category. >> Yes, you may. But you may but please speak louder. >> Can you hear me now? >> Yeah. >> Is that better? >> Now it's better. >> Okay. So there's a person he's stillm in this world. Rabbi Ginsburg. So he is a interesting person and I'm curious how you would >> again I I would I I would put Yitzka Ginsburg into the same into into the same category of sorts. Absolutely. He's he's a genius, you know, gifted. Um the Baltuga, I believe, you know, way back. I don't again, I don't know what level, you know, but about I'm saying where where he was. And uh I I always think of him. The story is that he was walking by a kidic or in St. Louis. This is what I heard. >> Yes. >> And Hill our our friend, he should be well, Hill Rosenfeld. Yes. >> He is from St. Louis and I think he is their contemporaries and I don't know if he knew him but he he shared with me the exact same story that you're about to share. >> Yes. And that is that that he he he was walking by and he heard him singing shalashudis some beautiful meditative nigun. Um and it it it it moved him where he you know he kind of went in and then he started to rediscover Yiddishkite and the rest is history. you know his I'm not talking out politically you know his political views but the fact is that he has um definitely uh stands out in in that way and you know in the kabad kabad THE ORIGINALAD people and there's a remnant of them in their kids and grandkids today but the real McCoys that came from Russia those were the founders right? You know, they uh they were and you can't pull the the wool over them. You know, they know the score. They they you know, they're respectful, but when when you're sitting out of her brain or you know, and they'll let you have it, you know, you don't pull any any any nonsense over them. when when Yitzka Ginsburgg when they heard that he started with his uh you know his how he how he taught and how he kabala like you KNOWIS AND KABALA TOGETHER then he's in this in bay and I think he whole like they were very uh suspect of him very suspect and they did not accept him but he proved himself and they saw he is genuine that he's a and a real, you know, and that's his style, you know, it's not their style. So, just like Steinald had his, you know, um, opponents, Ginsburg's had his opponents and these individuals in every generation at the time they are, and it's not just a kabad, I'm sure there's in other communities, you know, people like this, but you know, so what does this have to do with shuists? We do have to speak a little bit about Shoulus. It's a great conversation. I love it. But Shoulus is coming tomorrow night. And um I'm thinking about it. I'm start I'm thinking about it. What I'm What How is this sh going to be different than last year, the year before? And I think it's it's a it's exactly another P. But now it's so that's the first question we have to ask. We said we're going to we're talking means you have to ask yourself h how's it going to be different? How am I going to be different? What am I going to do about it? And if you prepare yourself then then it's you know that itself you think about it that itself is so valuable. Last night someone and he said the and the sweet is so fast and he's a he's a friend and a very fine person really but I went over to him and I said I don't want to say what I said online but I said to him that that's not the way you know it's you're supposed to know the weeks and the days and the spir take a moment take a bre a breath and then SAY THE BRA LIKE A MANSION NOT TELLING YOU TO CLOSE YOUR EYES AND SHAKE YOUR HANDM I'm not telling you to do that like like a normal person like I'm saying this is because when you prepare yourself even thinking that you WANT TO PREPARE YOURSELF THAT'S ALREADY A preparation in in terms we have something called mash mitzvah right let's take a mole, a a a ritual circumciser who does the bris. The actual mitzvah is the bris, right? What about the tools used to do the bris? They're called mak mitzvah preparation for the mitzvah. And there's a whole shila in the on shabas. Are you allowed to what do you do with those mashid mitzvah? I'm just saying we know that a does you know are are you allowed to carry on for the mitzvah and things like that mitzvah. So mitzvah in this sense in our sense of the faban is preparing ourselves. So what what what is about? So the traditional the traditional is I think the vilgoy says it and says it. So this is another one where the vagin and are on the same page until the reb goes with one nuance different. The basic question is how is it that we went to sleep on Hashem? You know, we know that if we're getting a a very big gift, something very special that's really out of the ordinary and special, we will you can't sleep like you're thinking about it. Hashem says, "I'm giving you the harina. I'm giving you the so you would think, what's the preparation for the to learn TO LEARN MORE TO BE MORE SPIRITUAL?" And we were in a sense, but at the last moment, we go to sleep on Hashem as though Hashem's going to come to give us the T and he has to wake us up. Like that's not considered by by the per by us, you know, special. That means, okay, he has something for us. Wake me up when you're ready, you know. So that's the question that everyone asks. what what happened over here and because of that we are Msakin we corrected by being up all night tomorrow night and I want to say just for the record for those that are listening that um for some people it's very hard to be up at night they fall asleep their eyes shut down all that so if that happens try to get up early sleep and get up five six seven and uh say finish the tick or learn you know what I'm saying if you can anyway so that's that's that's that's why we're up but the question is still a question so the basic answer is that the experience of of of feeling and and and understanding Hashem God in the conscious state being up versus being asleep. The sleep state is greater. Why? There's no impediment. The mind, the selic comes along and questions. Maybe this, maybe that, maybe yes, maybe no. So the heathen said to themselves, Hashem is about to give us this this holy ter and it's so special and we've been approaching it with logic, rationale, sikul, intellect. Now, WE'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE IT in a greater and higher way. We're going to go to sleep without the blockage of the mind and let it and let Hashem's TA filter through us in the superconscious to use those words. Again, I'm sure the Vgoyan didn't use the word superconscious, but that's the idea in in classical Talmudic terms. The kalum state, the state of a dream has that has that purity that the conscious awake state doesn't have. And that's why we see kazal on one hand dismiss dreams on the other hand they say don't we don't dismiss dreams. It's balance, but there's very powerful experiences coming through a dream. this shabas I reviewed a mimer and shul for the balabatin for the for the member for the people from 1938 that the previousb didn't say but he wrote and he gave it to a secretary to publish so that yeden could learn it on 1938 and when he gave it to the secretary rebes fed who's called he told them if if people would know where this mimer is from they would they would they would learn it and look at it in a different way. So the kacha says to the rebba if that's the case that they would be aroused in a way that would be greater in serving hashem rebba tell us where you got this ma from so the said to who's already an adult and a secretary there used to be a saying that a out a If you know everything, you become old very quickly. In other words, I ain't telling you. You know, here we are with the white beards. We're already older and all that. I mean, I think what really the freed meant is like I can't divulge this. This is two weeks later or so. He was a shad of the previous he was like a to raise money here for his work in Russia. He came back he had with a freed and in talking the told him about this minor somehow who was a friend of his heard that he was in Yehidis. So he asked him could you tell me what the Reb told you about the mind where he said it's it's private I can't tell you. So what does a good old do? What does he do when he hears that from another? What do you think he does? He invites him for a mala mala. He pours one cup of vodka with some herring AND HE POURS A SECOND CUP AND THE RUSSIANS know how to drink of course. AND AFTER THREE, FOUR CUPS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK HIM ABOUT ANYTHING. He starts speaking and he tells him what the Reb told him in about the m and the previous Reb said to him it was much shabas 27th of year. I was sleeping at night and my father the rashab came to me in a dream and my father said that this mimemer that you reset on par's which began with the words the opening words of the Tanya from the gmorida it's a mimer of the rebar in other words you repeated your grandfather's mimer and and and added and I had questions on In other words, THE RASHAB IS SAYING, "I HAD SOME questions on what my father said in a mime and I couldn't understand. I couldn't I couldn't get the answer to those questions." Then he said to him, "Today when you said the mimemer on Shabas 1938, THE QUESTIONS WERE RESOLVED THE WAY I HEARD it from you. My questions were resolved. Take this mimer, add some lines in the beginning to make it relevant to add some lines at the end to make it relevant to and to publish it and distribute it so people should learn it in public. I'm as well. That's what he told him. So the mimemer when he the previousb said if people would KNOW WHERE THE MIMEMER came from it came from his father in middle of the night in a dream and by the way the previousb writes that after the dream he got up and he couldn't sleep and he writes it was 1:30 in the morning he sat down and he started to write down the mimer as the rashab instructed him in the dream so a dream again I know we're talking about rebes and sadikim. But there is a a specialty to dream. So let's go back. So the yen want to experience Hashem from the dream perspective. So if that's the case, the question is why do we stay up? What's their sin? What was their transgression? Their mistake. So this is where the Reb adds this not the in the first few volumes. The Reb says that that um the mistake is that as much as the dream state is that special state, the bottom line is feet on the ground like we learned in the Maya. It's all nice and fine and dandy having you know a a dream life exper a dream life a dream exike experience but it has to be brought into the world on earth and and that's why as holy as it is to go into that state of sleep it's even holier to be on earth and live like a ye and that's why we're up and that's the story of life the story of aa Who here who of us here DOESN'T WANT TO DEN and learn and then be in a base mish all day or for someone else to put film with yen all day or to talk to people about Hashem and bear them and all that right we have to go to work we have to bring pasa etc etc says that that going out to work and making where you are is holier and greater than just sitting in Bish all day. It's very very important but not as important as and I think this message of that the Reb shared that that is like an foundational POINT OF HERE WE'RE GETTING the and it's so magnificent so special and so holy and everything else we must remember that you got to take the and make the part of the world the world has to say I want Not us in the base metric in the shul. We know that that we want or even in our homes. You have to have we have TO ASK OURSELVES THE QUESTION, do the yeden around us, all yeden, regardless, do they feel and understand what ta is? And if not, how can we communicate it to them that they that they should feel as that gold as that old yiddish la is the bestest TRA is the best merchandise. It rhymes. Is the best is the best. We used to put to sleep. Some probably still do little babies in their cribs with this tune. I forget. Yi. Do you remember the the whole the whole tune? I forget now. The whole tune. >> Yeah. Is the best, >> right? But but but that comes as part of it's a tune. I just don't remember now. Um Oh. Brener laugh. So there you don't have the words is the best but that's the song that we used to put children to sleep with the actually repeated this and this is traditional Yiddish >> my mother used to sing that song >> you see yeah it's traditional so so so is the best and and and the world is ripe people want to know and we have to we have to give it to them so in OTHER WORDS IF THEY DON'T OH, WE'RE at fault. It's so easy to blame them. They're and they're and they're, you know, I wish you guys would would would understand Yiddish. I I' I've made already so far 20 videos with my father. I'm getting from Yiddish speakers. They say they've never heard such a thing because he he's a Romanian yeed. He speaks Yiddish like that and he communicates in clear dictim with details these these ideas and and and um what I'm telling you now he said it yesterday he said when he was on the ship coming from France to America in 1958 he met a major Sakma supporter who at the time you know gave millions ions to start both in America andro the the turarta and the the the badat and all that my father's money that my grandfather gave him was stolen from him on the on the boat and he didn't I I don't know how this is possible but he didn't like take food with him or very little food you know he was not thinking he says and so he's like no food no money what does he do so he sees this kasidic Jew um his name was Gatelburgger it's a my father says it was no secret everyone knows Gatselber he was a lived in I think London very wealthy and um he says maybe have something for me to eat says I have I'm not going to give it to you so my father says why not he says Well, do do this m because you bring close THE cuz I SAW THE WAY YOU MADE A MINION. You went around and you gather 10 people to make a minion from or whatever with people that are not religious. So my father said, "So it's better that I shouldn't gather them together." And he says, "Yes." So my father tells over the story and and and And my father says how wrong HE WAS. HE GAVE HIM AT the end he gave him some of his chicken and eggs and then he gave him Coca-Cola and then he even gave him $5 on the condition that he meet the Satma Rebba when he lands when he comes to America which he did. He took a JOB AND THE SATMA bakery and THE SATMA WALKED IN. SO HE WAS MIM HE FULFILLED TONIGHT THE CONDITION OF GELBURGGER. HE WASN'T GOING TO GO SEE THE SATMA. it was you know but but what I'm saying is you know that's not our concern that's God's concern our concern is to bring kadusho or light you know it's the same relationships we can we can argue we can fight you know you want to live a life of fighting and arguing you know at a certain point you get sick people I I I counsel people LIKE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, BUT YOU'RE RUINING YOUR LIFE. THE YEARS ARE ARE GOING. STOP WITH THE FIGHTS. JUST GO ON. YOU'RE RIGHT. Just go on. And I include that, you know, family politics and inheritance inheritance issues and a son over a daughter and it's it's unbelievable in all communities of all kinds. And then people take money and they don't return it and they rip you off and all that. It's all right. But you have to ask yourself, do you want to get sick? Do you want to have more stress? Do you want to be happier? DO YOU WANT TO SERVE HASHEM? GO ON. Let Hashem do. Believe me, Hashem knows the score and Hashem takes care of what he needs to do. You don't have to be Hashem's um you know, lawyer. You know, there were yen that although they could they could go to a bezon, they were scared to go to a bezdon. Mom is scared going to a beston and then having to the person swear to take a I told you that once that story my father and I someone you know took a lot of money but he loaned a lot of money and and he didn't repay and we had to go to a my father went to be and the guy said with a ain advocate who knew husband and he said I'M READY TO SWEAR and I I it was right in front of me The donim said, "You're going to swear on Hashem's name?" He said, "Yes." He says, "You know what it says about swearing?" He says, "I know, and I don't care. I'm going to swear." So, a real from, you know, thinks twice about doing this. So, I I'm not talking about that person. I'm talking even just about the the stress, the anxiety, the anger. You know, you you you got to let go. You got to let go. And and I'm telling you, if Hashem WANTS YOU TO GET BACK YOUR MONEY, IF HASHEM WANTS THE relationship to be rebuilt, it it'll happen because people, not saying it's always this way because there are people that go to the ground with the anger and everything else, but many times people wake up and they say, you know, I was wrong and let's ask for forgiveness and let's move on. Anyway, this is um a bit about so I wish you the previous you should receive the with inwardness and joy. Mama is joy. It shouldn't be a burden. Should be I like to learn. I want to learn. I want to do with the it's it's it's a gold mine. Our is a gold mine Hashem has given us. So be with that joy and that inwardness. Bring it in. Share it with your family and your friends. And we should be to the ghoulish everyone should have a good only will we'll start uh one minute we'll start uh Monday the next mime in the same safer that we're using um it's the we'll start that yes you wanted to say something who's um one thing like like you a lot of times you'll say that it's not a thing meaning like even though it's written in the so it's not necessarily a thing it's just like or so I think one of the things that we're talking about about going out and not being in the base they're going out to other this is specifically written in the Torah police written every single time the finger hurts the hand hurts the body hurts Rashi says this. I mean, yes, the swarm bring it out 100%, but it doesn't make sense. Like sometimes the Torah that we have, a lot of people not they just don't keep parts of the Torah. They just keep whatever they want to be insular and stay insular and be with themselves and not go out for so y shoulder and give them a hug. Y >> and I'm and I'm telling you when you do that, if you get yourself to do that, they'll talk and you'll talk and they'll open up. Okay? Because a Jew wants to help another ye take care. Take care every good see everybody. Byebye.