Farbrengen 12 Tammuz, 2024 - Frierdiker Rebbe's life, Russia, Riga, Poland, America - RC Dalfin

you know and there was no there was no compromises it was it was one a oneway street and and was good compromise you know the comp good but but you know it it's like you it's similar I would say to the question land for peace right no you know that y you're talking about right the head of this the head of the lit Fox they conceeded somewhat and the rebba didn't conceda so there were differences you know so without without studying this and and giving you a a a real um learned opinion um I believe there was more wiggle room in the AA oriented uh approach uh than than the reban kabad uh with the Reb was no there was no there was no you know compromise I I'll give you an example I the rabbi that today we're dealing with that right now yeah we're with it right looking an article the chief RAB just said something today about pushing a deal to to to give out all these terrorists with blood on their hands so we can get back as just it's unb unb okay okay un un un believable the different opinions in yeah okay okay so you know I give you an example I went to the mik this morning she Bas the rabbi took me he's going out of town we went right mikah is called a community mikah it's on the property of actually aish that's named after Rabbi alaza silver okay I understand it's the largest Orthodox sh in the area so so um I was asking the um you know is it have bab which is the way theab wants the to be built for for women you know one under the other not Side by so he says yes I said that's and he said to me hey the Federation gave a lot of money for this Mikvah kabad went and said we're part of the Jewish of Judaism here so you can't the Fox couldn't pull a fast one or those that are against bab cuz in there's a big controversy about it they had to do for everybody including the kabik so they made borab so I said that's great then he says but guess what he says what's not so great is that they allow non-orthodox conversions of converts to use the mikah now this I don't know if you know my but in Chicago in the80s was a major major battle I know the fellow who led the campaign I I I've interviewed him I spoke to him and between you and I some of theim turned a blind eye to it and they you know they got their and and they allowed non conversions to use the Mikvah well that's what I'm told about the Cincinnati it's a federation mikah everyone is able to use it so I'm using as an example of you know the rebba would never stand for it in other words okay but it's not the Reb's M it's not aabad kabad didn't pay for the Mikvah but if if the Reb had his brothers then he wouldn't accept that right others would others would because at the end of the day you know are you encouraging non converts to use the mikah no they're kind of forcing themselves on you and through the because the fact that it belongs to the to the feder because the Federation paid or gave a lot of money their hands are tied but these are small important differences as it plays out so that's my answer is to you regarding you know the Auda position but I I want to you know for the record you know I I don't know I don't know enough to it's kind of what it's kind of extraordinary to hear of the Federation of a federation funding a mikah I don't know that I've heard of that you know and I looked in a lot of in Baltimore for many years and you I don't remember anything like that well okay you're right but listen RAB alzar silver lived till about 68 or 69 1968 69 he was powerful man and and you know it's still a leftover I again maybe the mikah was built at another location you know I don't know I I don't know but a lot has to do Hill with who is the boss the you know the politics the connect you you know how it is so in certain cities if it's an orthodox an orthodox R Rabbi Community is is well tied in you know REM in San Francisco San Francisco when I came there was Rabbi Rabbi Pinas sner God bless him he's already about 87 maybe well my hat goes off to him this guy fought the Federation he chained himself to the doors of the Federation with shackles and he said I'm not leaving he was sent there by rire Cutler in 1964 to open a Tor M day school and why did he do that he says you are obligated to fund my school our school because it's a community school yes it's Orthodox but we are a part of this community and guess what he got them to give them big money he had to fight for it and boy did he fight for it but he was known as the Red Devil he they were scared of him cuz they knew lipner is going to blow he's going to go to the newspapers this guy was you know he was from Romania like my father you know the people from Romania they say it the way it is and he told me once that your reab and he was a litf he was a you know he was not a far from it and he said your reab is the only person who has the the guts to stand up to who is Yi me Yi and he and he was of the same opinion no concessions no conceding not n Yoda which is interesting like you would think he would follow more a but in this issue he told me he follows the re so and and and H he got big money out of the Federation and then balaba who were you San Francisco Jews who were very far from anything and all that they were blown away and they have to give him money they they I mean this guy is fighting the stablishment he's worth his money so you know there's always been you know so so I'm just saying because he was a key player in the city and they they were scared of him at the end of the day cuz he you know he would make a Ruckus he would go to the newspapers reporters were there so all of a sudden the the the proper Jews would be embarrassed CU their names and faces would be in the paper and they don't want that so here's money you know so it depends on the makeup of of the city the people the players and all of that anyway let's talk for a minute about y a few minutes y t is um not only the birthday of the was born in 1880 but he P the 19 50s he was 70 years old but it's the day you know that he was liberated from a death sentence which was on giml tabos 19 27 and finally on B he was told he can go free and not have a um from you know a long Siberian labor type of GS Exile and work and that was you B was 1927 and since then every year have celebrated these two days to the point where in of today you see that there's no today and tomorrow tomorrow and the reason why tomorrow especially from the today and I stepped off for kman that's that's what I want to hear is that's what that's it's good anyway um wanted to know why that more okay no anyway um the point is so so why why you gimel tomorrow we also don't say is because the was given the papers and told he can leave but I'm sorry he was told he can leave but when he went to the the office was closed for some reason I think it was a holiday or something that day and he didn't he Soviet holiday yeah sovet holiday he didn't leave till the 13th so you know kabad makes both days when they came to uher the the leader of of of vilna the great R and and communal activists and everything else and complaining some of the L were complaining you know what is this a new what's going on here so he said by something like that by us there's it's diminishing in Russia you know people have falling to the Wayside and by them it's becoming more and stronger and stronger so yeah so so like justifying justifying the absolutely he he was very happy he was a l and he said didn't you know but he he knew the and him worked together in many things and he worked even with the so he and he understood the the hardships that you know cuz he was in Lithuania know in in in the Vila uh which was not as oppressive when it came to these things as Russia okay so he knew what the went through and here it's important to mention that the of yeah I think was still around they knew what the did they they you know and they they really appreciated it they themselves and the yeshivas did not do that um they felt oppressed and they left either they left her Isel or they closed up shop and the uh or they went to another city another country where like Vila where they were able to somehow continue but the called for his to stay and the Reb with fa since I'm you know a child I remember every year the and and talk about it and it was a very uh celebratory type of I do remember coming to those big faans and buying for him in the back of 770 at the large faans they Kus our publishing house would sell s and books and I remember coming and buying I would see him walking out with these two bags of spur like someone bought a safer too and FL he bought Tire he he he he packed up for the next three months four months till he came back to another a big faing and I remember that and it was very festive very festive and the's Main his main point was what the said and he spoke a lot about it not only was I liberated on but every Jew who's called a Jew just by nickname just even by nickname in other words which is really the the the seed of Outreach of kabad Outreach is you know whatever type of level you are at you're a you're liberated on your Bas now there's a lot to discuss and how that is but that was his message and that EBA embellished that and discussed it and elaborated on and every year he took another n another point so was a very festive yes what was the year again that that he was let out 1927 27 27 and they told him he has I think six hours to leave the country I don't know if I ever told you but my grandfather was was in prison in Moscow we and we have a diary that he kept he was released in 1924 huh um if you have a some part of it online or I would love to see parts of it you know I I I would love to read some yes yes how long after the Reba came back from his trip to um you know he went he went to Eric and I think he went to the United States that's later that's later in 1929 Al so so we're talking about his but then the rebel was put in jail the freedi was put in jail again no after he came back no no what when they released him he had 6 hours I believe they told him you got to leave the country and I and I'm not and cuz they were going to put him back into the the KGB the they were Terrors our own brothers and sisters and they were looking after to put him back in if he doesn't leave so he he had to get out and I don't know if he made the six-h hour you know period but he went home and from there he left to R laia and that that's where he he had freedom so that that so and and that's when he left what when he was let out he had those six hours this was in Moscow or this was at the time in petburg this was when he was he he was in a he he had been sent to C um he came back to his house in I think lenrad St Petersburg and from there he left there a famous uh the famous train ride on his way were able to go with him till the border of ltia and uh he gave a letter to RAB gari his son-in-law to give over to to one of the cidm it was his farewell letter um and he wrote there that I'm not leaving you oceans connect us they don't separate us that was part of that letter yes okay so again just to go back to timeline just real beauly giml was when they they commuted the the death sentence correct and then they then they sent him they sent him to C yes yes is when he got out of C yeah and and right correct correct and M M the re spoke several times that in a way G was is greater than y b cuz it was from Death to life you B is from a terrible place you know which who knows if you would survive but they're not shooting you they're not killing you so it was from from from hard labor to from one type of life if you can call that life to another life so giml was in fact one second my my wife who my wife zman was one of the previous Reb soldiers in the 20s he was together withas and all the they were the young B the 20 25 2 three year old they were the soldiers they were the guys like the B today putting on the fil and running around the right so so he and his friends would celebrate gim like it's the greatest day for them it was the greatest y happens to be that her Zalman passed away on giml thamos but you know for him giml tamos was when he their re was saved from Death you know go ahead um who wanted to ask something someone raise their hand I just wanted to clarify so again we're speaking right now 1927 1927 all in 27 so the time period that that the rebba made the trips abroad was and he said 1929 so when he was sort of like you know going between laa and then later Poland yeah so right so when when the re gets when the PD get gets to to laia it wasn't town laia is lithuanians and certain style ter so LX you know yeah no lit Fox is whatever yeah but no there was also strong sh ter nard anyway the bottom line is he didn't have a lot of there and he couldn't go back to Russia cuz they would lock him up and probably take him away right but he had all the and the underground yes so he he made it his business to raise funds for them that was a very you know and that is one of the reasons he came to ER Isel and United States was to you know do both encourage people in America for sure for ter mitz but was to raise money too to send back to his brethren in Russia so he go so he goes to he goes to different communities in in in in lva and he goes primarily in 29 he goes to America and first there the summer now like uh and then he goes to um America for almost a year and that's where he meets Rebel Las of silver now I believe he knows he know silver I think from Russia yet not sure cuz silver came over very very early but yes and then and then and then and then in 1933 he moves to Poland and the basic reason is that he wanted a Yesa near him is like the main state of he didn't have that he couldn't he didn't have it just they weren't students in in laia Okay so so Poland was the warsa was the hustling bustling you know Metropolitan of Jewish life in Europe at the time where it was relative it was Freedom so he moves there in 1933 and um a Yeshiva opened there from 1921 there was a laab Yeshiva in Warsaw from 1921 and an excellent Yesa so by the time he comes he has a Yeshiva there and subsequent to that it moves over to I think the South called atot I was there I told you I was at the building in so once he moves into Poland he takes a you know he's still was thinking about his Russian bre Brethren but unfortunately you know much was closed you see the the the underground it existed it definitely existed in the 30s but it was harder for various reasons so he put a a great focus on um Polish jewelry at the time and uh you know the Holocaust ended that in 19 3940 so that's that's the trajectory of his life was the sixth no of laich and he had a tremendous had Pon you know what had Pon mean you looked at him and and you you were in awe between his spudic and his grayish black white beard and his his his his demeanor and his presentation he was very Royal and one second MOA um you know the fact that he was not not well in a way it it played well for him I don't like using those words played well but it added to the Mystique of the man it it it did it did especially when he came to America and he came in 1940 he was from the he was from maybe the first European re that came over here during the Holocaust there were a few rebers before you know the the and and and the sa and you there were a few but they were before the Holocaust you know what I'm saying but he came right in the beginning in 1940 he was saved miraculously so yeen was that was that with s came in 1947 s years later the de already had seven years on him and and in three more years he passed on in 1950 so theba didn't really begin till the P around you know the few years to the passing the in fact he went to see the previous in 1949 he had Hadas with the previous uh he was older the was older the I think was born in 1887 and the was born in 1880 and he was in Brooklyn he was like the icon of re and I heard from many and many hungarians that their grandparents and I even heard from some of them themselves you know in Miami you know they're still you know they're 85 years old and they're coming down to they you know they told oh I went to see for a blessing and they were you know far from yeah yeah let's go for a second the the the wedding between the reab and the Reb was in Warsaw but that was in 19 20 28 November 28th so how did but the rebel wasn't the reat wasn't in war the reat traveled he his wife and they traveled from lvia to wara why did they make them wedding then in Warsaw okay because were in wara they weren't in lva lva was not cidic town and the re wanted you know Shapiro was there there the was there he he wanted AIC atmosphere he was you know you know he invited everybody he invited Mo he invited but you know for him it was very important to be in know in that type of environment and in the large Jewish Community the where wara was the large Jewish community it had FR it had Zionist had everything but there was a large segment so he he wanted a celebration to be very respectful so he had to you know he picked himself up and he made the celebration there also it could be he had some very strong supporters over there um Russians who lived there who moved there before and um I think they did very well and it could be a they funded I'm sure they funded the wedding so he had the room to to make what was called at the time a a lavish a large wedding and and a very in hundreds and hundreds of people it was out of his three daughters that married the Reb's wedding was the the largest the nicest you know the most respectable one you know uh uh you know for for for in 1932 his youngest daughter shandel got married I think was 32 the secretary of the reban wrote to RAB Jacobson and our Mas and our RAB is a grandson and he told us that there's a letter that he has he has 10,000 letters and correspondents of a Zade in his house in the archives okay there's a letter there where he writes to Jacobson in America he's writing from from from Poland laia whatever laia we don't have money to make a wedding that's 1932 that's how po poor they were you know and please try to put together money but we don't find that with the with the Reba's wedding in in Warsaw the the fre I'm sure didn't have the money but the the environment and the them there they they they they put it together very nicely so that was 19 November of anyway um we didn't learn today we and um it's important it's important to share these things with your children and grandchildren okay and another one last thing that theba emphasized every year when we talk about yub is to share the message what type of was what type of lover of yeen he was unconditionally unconditionally you know and the I'll give you a a story a short there was a woman in Canada Montreal I forget her name now she donated the property for the laaba in Montreal when the rabbi there Kramer or theab you know who was in charge of the Yesa brought her to the to the previous RAB I think she was from the old country and but she came early in their family and they made the they did very well she says to the I'm not from inish she spoke yish came from like you're taking money from me and you know what the re said nor go V there is a only God knows who is from that was that was the and your relative your wife's relative he was first of the and he told me and you probably heard it from him or heard from your wife that he sat on the on the knees of the fre as a young boy did you ever hear that y or not yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah my wife he he he he would always repeat that he would start crying cuz he remembered if he kept and in this house Misha the artist is here we spoke about this years ago he had pictures that you don't want to look at and then he had a beautiful a picture of Thea in Black it was you know when he passed away what it you have it have my my mother-in-law has it okay well he showed it to me he showed it to me in Los Angeles he he he drew it he drew it yes so you know the Fe was a fatherly grandfatherly type of a a re you know and that's why and and you know people who came out of the Holocaust people came out from they they had this emotional Affinity to him you know zman told me Z told me when I want to discuss to I knew the answer is his knowledge of to and Science and every when I wanted to get an emotional issue in my heart to move me I went to the you know and he considered the hisb as much as he had a relationship with the Reb and a very as you know a very special relationship and the Deb spent a lot of time with him and he spent a lot of time with the Reb going into the 60s even the 70s but nevertheless it was all more on the you know practical activism intellectual and that type but when it came to for him you know was that emotional bond and that's why I'm telling you and steinel writes it in his books in his book my re he says the same thing he says about zman and and and and scha he says you know they didn't really emotionally relate to the Reb you know um intellectually you know they they were floored you know but emotionally they identified with the Survivor with the with the the Elder and with theic style so the Reb says and this is the end of that Story Only God knows who is from who is orthodox who's religious who's observant and then never tells it to a woman who says I'm not this way why do you want to take my money it's like you know some Rabon say don't take money from someone who makes money on shabas they're not TR shabas right that the he he didn't and again I'm not saying that he he he was running around asking for money from people who made it on shabas you know but when the lady comes to him he he opens up for us a very important thing don't be judgmental and that don't be judgmental let Hashem be the judge and if you want to give s to to to to buy a property for or give for Yesa do that here in Cincinnati I just was I saw a building that an old man who was a Survivor from I think Germany Mr balel he donated to the Yesa and I asked the how did that happen so the RAB here took him one day to when he started Yesa you know a year or two into that and he and he just walked around the base medis to see these 14y olds learning and he reminded him of Europe preh Holocaust and he gave a big check and then he donated a property right neb his son married out so you know what what I'm saying is he was Orthodox you know was he you know probably not but the the this idea of you know invalidating people we have to be very careful very careful you know it doesn't mean you have to break bread with them and go to lunch with them and you know that would be nice cuz the way you bring people together is through talking and that's something that I I'm going I go through you know various things that I'm talking about and making clips about him there's a lot of people that like to be extremists my way is the only way pin you know and and especially today we need to sit down together we need to give I just interviewed a Prof Professor I sent it out you guys must have seen it I think I did Alan Nadler he's he was at Drew University in New Jersey for many years now he's back in Montreal Allan grew up as a modern Orthodox he says you know Zionist type of home but he had exposure to not only kabad but bells and Montreal there were different cidic groups then he got involved with the rashash of the L Yesa and he he he and he's very bright and he studied he's a Harvard um graduate he studied by Isidor tski the T Reb RAB salic son-in-law of course the Harvard uh Jewish studies professor and you know I'm sure there are people now that want to eat me up they want to eat me up how did I give him a platform because over the years he has written uh what kabad would consider the derogatory things about the Reb's positions so the first thing I asked him was Allan do you hate kabad he says absolutely not and he went on to explain himself do you just did you disagree with the RB on different points absolutely can you explain some of that absolutely now I had called I had called him truth be said a Reby hater in my first video because of an article that I read but I read it too quickly and I acknowledged my mistake and I apologized and he apologized to me and now he says when he comes to New York he wants to break bread he wants to get together and talk you know listen you know and he he has a cynical style you know we all have our style he's not a he's not a you know so so you know some some of theik some of the laich some of the you know are outraged that I give him a platform I gave him a platform for two reasons one to show that we're all yeen and number two since his publication came out in a kabad book and since he was used over the years by kabad for different things who is this person what what what does he really feel you know I asked him for example Are you a are you almost Ned and he explained why he's not you know even though some of the things he's said and writes seems to have that slant he says he's not he you know you either believe him you don't believe him you hear but now we have an hour and a half or so of the man talking about his life with me questioning him and you know interviewing him so for future Generations here it is at least you have something online that's been recorded it's for prosperity and you decide you know and and this would be a a you know I wouldn't say this when I was 20 years old when I was aad but you know you're 60s you've gone through part of life lots of Life you've seen all kinds of people and you know you don't have to be a zealot you know you don't got to be a zealot to appreciate what you have at the same time acknowledge acknowledge and you know yes if if there's a wrong done or you think there is in other words I don't I apologize but we both agreed to this I wasn't wrong in my initial calling him a rebi hater at the end I'm wrong cuz he's not a Reby hater and I apologize for that but initially if you read the letter that the the the article that was included he calls you know that he tell his father oh I met all these moies he goes into the re at 16 years old that would be probably in the 1960s and he says big deal what did he tell me I should be succeed in life I'm coming here for inspiration right so I felt that was come on man what do you want what what do you want the Reit to do with you give you give you a prize you know so he kind to me he kind of dismisses the you know he he's making fun in us like you know at the end he says so I guess the rebel was right that I will grow I I have the power to grow up to be someone important but not a kabik as the Reb thought but a litvak uh you know more in the litvak way because he wrote a book on the V you know so I put all these comments together and I walk away saying hey Mr Professor Nadler hey you don't like kab you don't like the re you really have some right okay and then I reread it and I said you know he definitely has a disagreement but he's not a hater he's not a hater he's not a hater it's fine to to initially you know but then come to your senses wake up admit you're wrong and go on and when people see that they join they want to get involved we all make mistakes who's perfect who's perfect anyone says they're perfect go far go far away from them okay anyway anyone wanted to ask something or is that it have a great shabas it's the shabas also before you sh we will learn every day next week including we middle I do hope to finish the G Chua by the time we break for our three three and a half week break which is um before TI which we will celebrate in with the rebuilding of the bdash love you all Z stay in touch take it great for thanks for the opportunity byebye