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Essence of Chasidus #25- Difference bet the blessing Eloki Neshama and Modeh Ani in Halachic terms
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now it's back up okay
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what i'd like to do now is learn some of
the footnotes we started chapter 10 you
had on page 57
and
we're learning here about we learned
yesterday the simple interpretation of
maidani
which is giving thanks to hashem and
that ebbets compared it
to
that i've compared it to uh
to
berkeley
aaron is eating an ice cream that's
called beer and he's having pleasure
from the ice cream right
so there ever said that just like birka
sanen there is the idea that um
that
the
you make the bracha immediately either
before or after the bracha
after the
the the issue that you're thinking
you're eating or pleasuring yourself
from
so too with birha said we thank thank
the giving brothers
so let's look at the note number
um
five
the blessing and the kindness
follows oh and and one second let me say
that there's
so the question is why do you have to
say
if you have a blessing there have
explained it's two separate things
one is a blessing which is formal and
one is
informal and i spoke about that
yesterday at length so i'm not going to
repeat it
the blessing of the kindness
follows the blessing for washing the
hands and the blessing of thanksgiving
for physical health asha yota
that's just a point of reference
note 85
note 86
there are two
categories of blessings
one
our blessings of gratitude for for
enjoying hashem's creation
include and they include hamilti before
bread and similar blessings right that's
called beerhot birchat
satisfaction
gratitude
and then there's something called
blessings of praise mushroom note 86 on
page 56
our blessings of praise
and acknowledgement
to
recognizing
hashem in all of his works although it
is because
that are recited before partaking of the
food the rebbe applies the principle
to because
as well
in other words the principle
the concept of saying a blessing before
you have benefit from it
is technically associated with birha's
hanening
before he ate his ice cream before he
began eating
that's
that's that's or or or your cup right
shakoli but water before you drink your
water
the idea of making a blessing
before
the restoration of the soul or during it
we don't find that concept in khazal the
rabbit here makes the comparison and he
has a right to it there's nothing if you
know there's nothing outrageous but just
we don't find that that's what we
learned in this
note 86
and that ever says
listen to his logic just like you
benefit from the cup of water measure
and therefore you make a blessing before
you begin benefiting and having
satisfaction
you also make a bracha when you benefit
from the restoration of your soul i'm
sorry you also give thanks to god
for restoring your soul even
but not before because before you're
dead that's the next footnote as soon as
you wake up
and you and you have that hey
just like i drank i started i i drank i
oh i'm thirsty oh i feel so
relieved i have some water so when you
wake up you say wow i believe my soul
has been restored to me look at note 87
in our case regarding the restoration of
the soul however
it is obviously not possible to make a
bracha
for the restoration of the soul before
before
it is restored
right the peril of deriving benefit
you have to first be alive to make give
thanks for restoring the soul so it's
impossible to say my diary while you're
sleeping
but as soon as your eyes open up
you say it
it is nevertheless obligatory continuing
in the note
to make the blessing immediately upon
awakening this would correspond to and
even surpass
the concept of the blessing recited on
purification by immersion in a mikveh
for women
although or are convert although the
blessing cannot be recited before
immersion
is a convert a convert before immersing
no
so how can you make a bracha before you
can't
as soon as the convert immerses in the
water and comes out
he makes or she makes a blessing or a
woman going to the midfield
a woman pre-nick visits
during the menstrual cycles is called
anita
so how can she make a bracha while she's
anita
so she has to first go into the water
and immerse herself in the water as she
comes out she covers herself up covers
herself up we do a woman doesn't make a
bracha just like a convert in the nude
it's against aloha they have to cover
themselves up
and then they make the brother
yes pleasure
what's the question something i've been
wondering the last number of days
um
in
new zealand
we have obviously
modani
okay
okay wash
and cetera and then
the first is
washing the hands again making the bra
immediately after until you die
then without interruption ashoria star
and without interruption
okay that's misakhari
i noticed that in order
and smart i assume is pretty similar
it's it's it's not that way it's
actually a very different seder and i
don't want to take this off topic but
i'm curious i'm just curious at a
certain point for example
and it could be again
the
the the
nativity
is significantly
later so to speak in the order of things
in the morning like just the lord said
for example
as they put on
the tallest cotton and then
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i'm just curious the things that we're
speaking about
and what the
what the rabbit is sharing here
is
uh curious how much of what the reddit
is sharing in this country's
everything we're talking about has to do
with the way that the alta rabbit
was masada
the sitter
i i understand your question
the answer to your question is n-o
no
there's no
it has nothing to do with the altar ever
every jew
any nusa from top to bottom says mo
donnie first
okay
i understand that's it that that's it
the discussion here is about me not
about anything else
uh
okay
why they're why they're different
there's a different order of the
brothers is another question has nothing
to do with overlearning it's a separate
question has to do and that has to do
with the gemara and the pus kim the riff
the rambam how they set up
totally different
but the reason that i brought a question
now is because you mentioned because
we've started we're talking about
making the process
i'm not it's fine to ask but
what what i'm saying is that the the
issue here is that that we when we open
our eyes we we say might not need now to
explain this that have the employees
different parts of david and different
ideas and and but he's not he's not he's
not telling you that's why
this brother comes before this and this
is because he's not getting to that
discussion
so therefore the answer to your question
is
this isn't this isn't just for people
who follow the outer rappers no it's for
claudius
because everyone begins with everyone
begins with my dandy clear
okay good back to the um yes i don't
know i don't know if you got to this yet
but uh i was just reading the notes
and uh on page 59
we're not there yet give me
wait give me give me give me two minutes
we are reading the notes on page 56
and towards the end of 87 let me
finish this although
last three lines from the bottom of 56
in the notes 87.
although the blessing cannot be recited
before immersion we're talking about now
the bracha mitchell being a convert or a
woman after neither
right before they immerse you cannot
make the brother since the person is not
yet
fit to recite it
one does not
postpone 57
page 57 the note the blessing to a later
time
now like this
after a woman comes out of the mikvah
she's she's done the immersion she's no
longer a leader
why don't you wait till she gets home to
make the broker
the same for a convert
convert goes into the midfield
becomes fully jewish
so later on at some point no we say the
broncos should be made
right there and then as as soon as they
get sneezed they put on something on
themselves they should make the brah
rather
the blessing is set immediately upon
emerging from the water
and excites the shokonarov and the
gemara
one should recite the blessing as close
to the action as possible
what do we see from this look at the
endnote
hence
the blessing of acknowledgement for the
restoration of the soul in the morning
certainly should not be delayed
in other words what the rep is saying
like this is why
why according to simple texts
why
must we say
the mo down knee as soon as we wake up
one moment one moment
get dressed and that starts saying the
maidani no
you say it as soon as you wake up
so the rabbit says
because let's compare the maidani
to the the bracha for after the mikv of
a convert or a woman which is not set
later in the day or later when they get
home but it's said as soon as they come
out of the mikvah
so so to hear as soon as you wake up
and your soul is restored you make the
brahma yes masha
isn't that isn't that exact that's
that's exactly what i'm asking isn't
that why
in this
that the end the hasimah the bracha
that's
yesterday i'm not sure you missed the
class
the in in in chapter yo the rabbit says
there's two things there's the bracha
for restoration of the soul which is
and there is mode
which is a broker it's an
acknowledgement
we are focusing on the acknowledgement
not on the broker
so then what's the note there that the
rabbit brings about the broker
he makes his business no
no
no show me no the bronco here is talking
about
show me where he's talking about the
brochure
please show me
so so that's my question hence the
breath the blessing of acknowledgement
for the restoration okay so
so
i get it it's a mistake they should have
not said the word the blessing it's a
mistake they should have said the
acknowledgement
the blessing is a kind of shamble that's
the blessing we're not talking about
that now we're talking about moda knee
which is not a bracha there's no baroque
before no barak at the end so i would
say that this wording is wrong it should
have said and this is not from the river
this is from they're all the editors it
should have said hence the
acknowledgement
uh-huh
i understand okay
okay okay
okay uh i i'm curious okay i hear that i
hear what you're saying
and i know but i am curious to know
still nonetheless
if that is why in new zealand
but that feeling is it doesn't say but
you know we need to look into
the siddhar
had a grandfather
and the rebbe's grandfather
he took the out that episode and he
explained many things also the order and
different words he chose
the altenew versus other
is it's called
sydney sprinter usually in the la in the
back of the large chabad suduru
that's what i would what
the rablindex father
uh no the rebels mother's
grandfather i think not even father
grandfather
that
his name was rabbi levot
lev ut
he wrote the the the
uh a commentary called shah hakole
because the altarebu said that his
siddhar his nose his colleague all the
new skulls
right he used 60 sadurim
uh many cabal cabola
and he incorporated them all in the
version that he put forth
so this commentary is called shah khole
the gate that includes everything
over there i i would i would look but it
has nothing to do with
the text over here they were talking
about the knee which is universal to all
jews
and the point that ebb is making is very
simple
that just as
regarding the blessing of
becoming a jew or a or a a woman after
neither becoming leaving the status of
neither
is done right after so too the moda ali
the acknowledgement not the bracha not
al-qaeda shambha is done
right after you wake up and moshe it's
very simple you're not al-qaeda sharma
you can't you're not allowed to say
you're bad hit naked or half naked it's
against her
everyone says that
yes hello
when does a woman make a brachala tamila
after she comes out
after she comes out there's no broccoli
that said before you immerse not
according to what i learned right here
i i'm just telling you what i what i
learned to hear
that's what it says
okay
let's go now
hilla
how could you make ah think for a second
how can you make how could she make a
brother before she's a neither
she has to first go into the water to
become
not a neither in other words even when
it becomes nightfall it's after the
two-week period and all that
until she emerges she's not anita she's
a neither and the same we have in the
trailer right head of chemist regarding
right it comes evenly
big deal you got to get into the water
yeah so i i hear that i hear that
question and and i um
but i nonetheless but i only i always
thought up until this moment
that she made a bracha in the water with
the water covering her body but not her
head before she emerged her head okay
okay so so that's
that's a rare detail and
you have to talk about it start for now
but but she has to make she has to be in
the water
that's for sure the question is about
the head okay
let's leave that for another time okay
okay
but uh but uh um
that that is a good question but i don't
want to go into that okay okay let's go
further
because that has to do with hot is the
water consider so not
you you understand there's halal issues
over there i wonder okay
nope 88.
so in the
text on page 56
it says that one
benefits for one is not allowed
to enjoy anything of creation without
reciting the appropriate blessing
he's talking here about
beer
you're not a lot of benefit without god
gave it to you you have a benefit
thank hashem okay
go to note 91
note 91
so he says here now here moshe
we're now talking about the kind of
summer which is the bracha
and he says
and this cannot be said in our times
before the normal
washing of the hands so now we are
referring to
the al-qaeda shaman and he says in vote
91.
my daddy only contains the words
everlasting king in its reference to god
but does not mention any of his names in
capital m and
directly
for one is not permitted to pronounce
any of god's names until after the
morning ritual washing of the hands
washing their hands restores purity and
cleanliness to the mind and body
of the altar episode so in other words
that's why
the broccoli
is not set till you're fully dressed and
washed your hand and pure
compet whereas
my daddy which is not a prophets only
haida thanksgiving
is said even in the state of
non-cleanliness
let's go to page
next page note 92
maybe this will also help clarify for
much for us which is point
a blessing in jewish law is defined by
its mention of god's name
and his kingdom as in the form of
formula
plaster you
lord our god king of the universe the
text of my daddy does not contain these
elements so musha in note 92 it gives
you clearly the difference between
maidani and alekaida
abraha
must have
god's name either at the beginning and
at the end or just at the beginning or
just at the end that depends on what
kind of brother it is
clear
okay
note like
you mentioned this already but just
regarding going to the characolo to find
out about
why the lacana shema is put
early on
i'm wondering and my question here again
my question is simply
the whole concept of the bracha making
it on the restoration of the neshama
that's
allah i'm just wondering
is the whole this whole concept is the
elokinis
put
as close as possible to moda'ani
because so we can say that bracha again
i know i'm not talking about
talking about an actual bracha making a
block on the restoration of the shaman
again i don't have the safer in front of
me so i cannot answer you
you know with authority however do you
know that a person can say
and mow down the at six o'clock and then
say broca's at eight or nine o'clock as
long as
it doesn't pass three hours later
that so it's three hours later there's
no closeness between maidani and other
kind of shaman
okay
you're looking at the sitter and one
follows the other she's saying they're
close it could be that close
that's true that's true
i hear that that's true that's a good
point
okay yeah but but again uh you know i
really would
need that since i don't have it here
i'll have to wait i'll get back to new
york and then hopefully and i'm not sure
i'm gonna find it over there but there
are reasons what you're asking is what's
what you're really asking and this is
the way to think of it
being that you are a talmud scholar
the idea is
what's no no this is the way this would
be studied in the yeshiva halls
okay emir and in lakewood and whatever
what is the reason for the the different
order of the brothers that's the
question
what
yeah
you understand
your question
is is is is a question but it's
it's like well we have them to sit there
next to each other it doesn't work that
way
because as i said you could say the the
birkhaz
much later than getting up in the
morning it's two separate worlds it
happens to come together in the sitter
because it's
it's a it's a book you have to put
things down in writing
now why is the
ashkenazi dismissal this way that way
that needs to be looked at and and and
as they say um the order of tefila has
been
categorized by the rambam the rush
the rif
later
i'm sorry and and and then the
and the rama
following each one following who they
follow
wrote it that way and then the altar and
the mr and the kavakayam
etc that's how they rule so there's a
trajectory going back to the gemara
and to the authorities on the mother
namely the russian the rift
and from there we have the rambam
or the rambo most of the same time etc
and from there we go to the the
contemporary for the the 500 years ago
the chocolate of the the mahabharata
swash buried its voice
there are more buried in krakow
israel's
right i was i was in reviews of cairo's
uh
learning with my son last week beautiful
beautiful very quick
that's it that's it and from there and
from there we have the alter
you could say those four
are today's
contemporary
uh authoritative
rulings for for people how to
baskin and today we have already what we
call ah
you know who compile and absorb
and all the different abundant you know
all the different upon them but at all
it had it has a beginning you know it
has a beginning that's where
you you will find
the differences and the same as for
example the haggadah
if the first is masa
and they come back saying the fear
cautious they say it that way
and and out and you know what i'm just
saying
there's a reason for it there's a reason
for this one second there's a reason you
want there's a reason for this
and the rabbit in his head
look into the footnotes you'll see it
gives you all the psyche of all many
citations why don't we chose this
and then he gives his own commentary
because what what's most curious for a
child is a meaning
a custom
everyone knows but a custom oh what's
this all about
you know so there ever says that the
thinking that he is that why did the
altar there but choose this
version of the riff of the rama whoever
whoever ruled that way
versus the other ruling is because
madbilen will would would will
keep the it will get the interest of the
child more than
so the last couple years i've been using
the chabad
i found like really two really amazing
one is like the dark brown and this
one's like a light brown like they're
both amazing so i remember like when i
started doing this a couple years ago
there's no hassala cinderbesa
it was like such a
you know
used to saying it every single year
once i got around to it it made sense
though
it made sense okay but but you know for
people that are used to saying it for
most people they they're not happy
doesn't say that you know and and and
had god yet
there's no hot god yeah you go to that
it's outrageous or that the chabad
doesn't wear a kitten like a sader and
do i mean etc the different different
customs but yes the hassan said the
pesach is a big one
it's just as big i mean everyone loves
the hot guardians
it's like what are you doing you know
you remind me
dr twyskill was shown by dr tewersky of
ron twirsky
at a wedding in the 1970s early 70s
um a very close friend of his in
pittsburgh he lived at a time in
pittsburgh
rabbi darren who has a son who's a son
you know
i want to think is
lord in the old city that little chabad
right there that's
darren's in charge there
so the father was a very close friend of
rabbi torski it was a big town with
hokum and he was a survivor unit came
along from shanghai
anyway
at one of his daughter's weddings so
rabbi twersky was there and you know he
was brilliant
and he made up grumman you know what
grammar is right like these rhymes at a
wedding you know
on the spot he was such a brilliant man
and they taped it i and i heard it it's
available but it's in yiddish
it is so funny he basically
is speaking about it about him being
a slave
in the habaju in pittsburgh because
that's where he doesn't he was the
president of the show for many years
and he comes from chernobyl towards keys
and which of course go back to the outer
river too but you know
it's a different nusselt fila svard
versus arie you know in that sense
and and he and he was joking and himself
and at khabad he says
our holy father speak about i'm
paraphrasing saying by hulu friday night
for sunroom friday night
comes along the bellatanya the holy bar
kanye says we printed in the center but
we don't say it how could you do this to
us
but he says it with such
but it's it's brilliant
and and so he goes through
like all the things that
cuts out from the traditional siddhar
and maxer and
it's so funny and this was a gift that
he gave to the hustle and color into the
and to the
you know so he was kind of like laughing
at him
laughing at himself
that he never is a
but they're not saying
things that he's used to saying
i want to continue now inside the text
okay i want to try to finish on page 99
what time is it does anyone know
it's it's 3 18.
then we're gonna have to stop we'll have
to stop yeah what do you want to say my
that's because i i actually have to go
because myself
yeah okay so we will continue tomorrow
however i have another share zai doesn't
everyone take care we left on it we let
we left on a good note with the story
with rabbi twersky it's a new one i
never told you that before i don't think
okay