Essence of Chasidus #25- Difference bet the blessing Eloki Neshama and Modeh Ani in Halachic terms

okay now it's back up okay okay what i'd like to do now is learn some of the footnotes we started chapter 10 you had on page 57 and we're learning here about we learned yesterday the simple interpretation of maidani which is giving thanks to hashem and that ebbets compared it to that i've compared it to uh to berkeley aaron is eating an ice cream that's called beer and he's having pleasure from the ice cream right so there ever said that just like birka sanen there is the idea that um that the you make the bracha immediately either before or after the bracha after the the the issue that you're thinking you're eating or pleasuring yourself from so too with birha said we thank thank the giving brothers so let's look at the note number um five the blessing and the kindness follows oh and and one second let me say that there's so the question is why do you have to say if you have a blessing there have explained it's two separate things one is a blessing which is formal and one is informal and i spoke about that yesterday at length so i'm not going to repeat it the blessing of the kindness follows the blessing for washing the hands and the blessing of thanksgiving for physical health asha yota that's just a point of reference note 85 note 86 there are two categories of blessings one our blessings of gratitude for for enjoying hashem's creation include and they include hamilti before bread and similar blessings right that's called beerhot birchat satisfaction gratitude and then there's something called blessings of praise mushroom note 86 on page 56 our blessings of praise and acknowledgement to recognizing hashem in all of his works although it is because that are recited before partaking of the food the rebbe applies the principle to because as well in other words the principle the concept of saying a blessing before you have benefit from it is technically associated with birha's hanening before he ate his ice cream before he began eating that's that's that's or or or your cup right shakoli but water before you drink your water the idea of making a blessing before the restoration of the soul or during it we don't find that concept in khazal the rabbit here makes the comparison and he has a right to it there's nothing if you know there's nothing outrageous but just we don't find that that's what we learned in this note 86 and that ever says listen to his logic just like you benefit from the cup of water measure and therefore you make a blessing before you begin benefiting and having satisfaction you also make a bracha when you benefit from the restoration of your soul i'm sorry you also give thanks to god for restoring your soul even but not before because before you're dead that's the next footnote as soon as you wake up and you and you have that hey just like i drank i started i i drank i oh i'm thirsty oh i feel so relieved i have some water so when you wake up you say wow i believe my soul has been restored to me look at note 87 in our case regarding the restoration of the soul however it is obviously not possible to make a bracha for the restoration of the soul before before it is restored right the peril of deriving benefit you have to first be alive to make give thanks for restoring the soul so it's impossible to say my diary while you're sleeping but as soon as your eyes open up you say it it is nevertheless obligatory continuing in the note to make the blessing immediately upon awakening this would correspond to and even surpass the concept of the blessing recited on purification by immersion in a mikveh for women although or are convert although the blessing cannot be recited before immersion is a convert a convert before immersing no so how can you make a bracha before you can't as soon as the convert immerses in the water and comes out he makes or she makes a blessing or a woman going to the midfield a woman pre-nick visits during the menstrual cycles is called anita so how can she make a bracha while she's anita so she has to first go into the water and immerse herself in the water as she comes out she covers herself up covers herself up we do a woman doesn't make a bracha just like a convert in the nude it's against aloha they have to cover themselves up and then they make the brother yes pleasure what's the question something i've been wondering the last number of days um in new zealand we have obviously modani okay okay wash and cetera and then the first is washing the hands again making the bra immediately after until you die then without interruption ashoria star and without interruption okay that's misakhari i noticed that in order and smart i assume is pretty similar it's it's it's not that way it's actually a very different seder and i don't want to take this off topic but i'm curious i'm just curious at a certain point for example and it could be again the the the nativity is significantly later so to speak in the order of things in the morning like just the lord said for example as they put on the tallest cotton and then [Music] i'm just curious the things that we're speaking about and what the what the rabbit is sharing here is uh curious how much of what the reddit is sharing in this country's everything we're talking about has to do with the way that the alta rabbit was masada the sitter i i understand your question the answer to your question is n-o no there's no it has nothing to do with the altar ever every jew any nusa from top to bottom says mo donnie first okay i understand that's it that that's it the discussion here is about me not about anything else uh okay why they're why they're different there's a different order of the brothers is another question has nothing to do with overlearning it's a separate question has to do and that has to do with the gemara and the pus kim the riff the rambam how they set up totally different but the reason that i brought a question now is because you mentioned because we've started we're talking about making the process i'm not it's fine to ask but what what i'm saying is that the the issue here is that that we when we open our eyes we we say might not need now to explain this that have the employees different parts of david and different ideas and and but he's not he's not he's not telling you that's why this brother comes before this and this is because he's not getting to that discussion so therefore the answer to your question is this isn't this isn't just for people who follow the outer rappers no it's for claudius because everyone begins with everyone begins with my dandy clear okay good back to the um yes i don't know i don't know if you got to this yet but uh i was just reading the notes and uh on page 59 we're not there yet give me wait give me give me give me two minutes we are reading the notes on page 56 and towards the end of 87 let me finish this although last three lines from the bottom of 56 in the notes 87. although the blessing cannot be recited before immersion we're talking about now the bracha mitchell being a convert or a woman after neither right before they immerse you cannot make the brother since the person is not yet fit to recite it one does not postpone 57 page 57 the note the blessing to a later time now like this after a woman comes out of the mikvah she's she's done the immersion she's no longer a leader why don't you wait till she gets home to make the broker the same for a convert convert goes into the midfield becomes fully jewish so later on at some point no we say the broncos should be made right there and then as as soon as they get sneezed they put on something on themselves they should make the brah rather the blessing is set immediately upon emerging from the water and excites the shokonarov and the gemara one should recite the blessing as close to the action as possible what do we see from this look at the endnote hence the blessing of acknowledgement for the restoration of the soul in the morning certainly should not be delayed in other words what the rep is saying like this is why why according to simple texts why must we say the mo down knee as soon as we wake up one moment one moment get dressed and that starts saying the maidani no you say it as soon as you wake up so the rabbit says because let's compare the maidani to the the bracha for after the mikv of a convert or a woman which is not set later in the day or later when they get home but it's said as soon as they come out of the mikvah so so to hear as soon as you wake up and your soul is restored you make the brahma yes masha isn't that isn't that exact that's that's exactly what i'm asking isn't that why in this that the end the hasimah the bracha that's yesterday i'm not sure you missed the class the in in in chapter yo the rabbit says there's two things there's the bracha for restoration of the soul which is and there is mode which is a broker it's an acknowledgement we are focusing on the acknowledgement not on the broker so then what's the note there that the rabbit brings about the broker he makes his business no no no show me no the bronco here is talking about show me where he's talking about the brochure please show me so so that's my question hence the breath the blessing of acknowledgement for the restoration okay so so i get it it's a mistake they should have not said the word the blessing it's a mistake they should have said the acknowledgement the blessing is a kind of shamble that's the blessing we're not talking about that now we're talking about moda knee which is not a bracha there's no baroque before no barak at the end so i would say that this wording is wrong it should have said and this is not from the river this is from they're all the editors it should have said hence the acknowledgement uh-huh i understand okay okay okay okay uh i i'm curious okay i hear that i hear what you're saying and i know but i am curious to know still nonetheless if that is why in new zealand but that feeling is it doesn't say but you know we need to look into the siddhar had a grandfather and the rebbe's grandfather he took the out that episode and he explained many things also the order and different words he chose the altenew versus other is it's called sydney sprinter usually in the la in the back of the large chabad suduru that's what i would what the rablindex father uh no the rebels mother's grandfather i think not even father grandfather that his name was rabbi levot lev ut he wrote the the the uh a commentary called shah hakole because the altarebu said that his siddhar his nose his colleague all the new skulls right he used 60 sadurim uh many cabal cabola and he incorporated them all in the version that he put forth so this commentary is called shah khole the gate that includes everything over there i i would i would look but it has nothing to do with the text over here they were talking about the knee which is universal to all jews and the point that ebb is making is very simple that just as regarding the blessing of becoming a jew or a or a a woman after neither becoming leaving the status of neither is done right after so too the moda ali the acknowledgement not the bracha not al-qaeda shambha is done right after you wake up and moshe it's very simple you're not al-qaeda sharma you can't you're not allowed to say you're bad hit naked or half naked it's against her everyone says that yes hello when does a woman make a brachala tamila after she comes out after she comes out there's no broccoli that said before you immerse not according to what i learned right here i i'm just telling you what i what i learned to hear that's what it says okay let's go now hilla how could you make ah think for a second how can you make how could she make a brother before she's a neither she has to first go into the water to become not a neither in other words even when it becomes nightfall it's after the two-week period and all that until she emerges she's not anita she's a neither and the same we have in the trailer right head of chemist regarding right it comes evenly big deal you got to get into the water yeah so i i hear that i hear that question and and i um but i nonetheless but i only i always thought up until this moment that she made a bracha in the water with the water covering her body but not her head before she emerged her head okay okay so so that's that's a rare detail and you have to talk about it start for now but but she has to make she has to be in the water that's for sure the question is about the head okay let's leave that for another time okay okay but uh but uh um that that is a good question but i don't want to go into that okay okay let's go further because that has to do with hot is the water consider so not you you understand there's halal issues over there i wonder okay nope 88. so in the text on page 56 it says that one benefits for one is not allowed to enjoy anything of creation without reciting the appropriate blessing he's talking here about beer you're not a lot of benefit without god gave it to you you have a benefit thank hashem okay go to note 91 note 91 so he says here now here moshe we're now talking about the kind of summer which is the bracha and he says and this cannot be said in our times before the normal washing of the hands so now we are referring to the al-qaeda shaman and he says in vote 91. my daddy only contains the words everlasting king in its reference to god but does not mention any of his names in capital m and directly for one is not permitted to pronounce any of god's names until after the morning ritual washing of the hands washing their hands restores purity and cleanliness to the mind and body of the altar episode so in other words that's why the broccoli is not set till you're fully dressed and washed your hand and pure compet whereas my daddy which is not a prophets only haida thanksgiving is said even in the state of non-cleanliness let's go to page next page note 92 maybe this will also help clarify for much for us which is point a blessing in jewish law is defined by its mention of god's name and his kingdom as in the form of formula plaster you lord our god king of the universe the text of my daddy does not contain these elements so musha in note 92 it gives you clearly the difference between maidani and alekaida abraha must have god's name either at the beginning and at the end or just at the beginning or just at the end that depends on what kind of brother it is clear okay note like you mentioned this already but just regarding going to the characolo to find out about why the lacana shema is put early on i'm wondering and my question here again my question is simply the whole concept of the bracha making it on the restoration of the neshama that's allah i'm just wondering is the whole this whole concept is the elokinis put as close as possible to moda'ani because so we can say that bracha again i know i'm not talking about talking about an actual bracha making a block on the restoration of the shaman again i don't have the safer in front of me so i cannot answer you you know with authority however do you know that a person can say and mow down the at six o'clock and then say broca's at eight or nine o'clock as long as it doesn't pass three hours later that so it's three hours later there's no closeness between maidani and other kind of shaman okay you're looking at the sitter and one follows the other she's saying they're close it could be that close that's true that's true i hear that that's true that's a good point okay yeah but but again uh you know i really would need that since i don't have it here i'll have to wait i'll get back to new york and then hopefully and i'm not sure i'm gonna find it over there but there are reasons what you're asking is what's what you're really asking and this is the way to think of it being that you are a talmud scholar the idea is what's no no this is the way this would be studied in the yeshiva halls okay emir and in lakewood and whatever what is the reason for the the different order of the brothers that's the question what yeah you understand your question is is is is a question but it's it's like well we have them to sit there next to each other it doesn't work that way because as i said you could say the the birkhaz much later than getting up in the morning it's two separate worlds it happens to come together in the sitter because it's it's a it's a book you have to put things down in writing now why is the ashkenazi dismissal this way that way that needs to be looked at and and and as they say um the order of tefila has been categorized by the rambam the rush the rif later i'm sorry and and and then the and the rama following each one following who they follow wrote it that way and then the altar and the mr and the kavakayam etc that's how they rule so there's a trajectory going back to the gemara and to the authorities on the mother namely the russian the rift and from there we have the rambam or the rambo most of the same time etc and from there we go to the the contemporary for the the 500 years ago the chocolate of the the mahabharata swash buried its voice there are more buried in krakow israel's right i was i was in reviews of cairo's uh learning with my son last week beautiful beautiful very quick that's it that's it and from there and from there we have the alter you could say those four are today's contemporary uh authoritative rulings for for people how to baskin and today we have already what we call ah you know who compile and absorb and all the different abundant you know all the different upon them but at all it had it has a beginning you know it has a beginning that's where you you will find the differences and the same as for example the haggadah if the first is masa and they come back saying the fear cautious they say it that way and and out and you know what i'm just saying there's a reason for it there's a reason for this one second there's a reason you want there's a reason for this and the rabbit in his head look into the footnotes you'll see it gives you all the psyche of all many citations why don't we chose this and then he gives his own commentary because what what's most curious for a child is a meaning a custom everyone knows but a custom oh what's this all about you know so there ever says that the thinking that he is that why did the altar there but choose this version of the riff of the rama whoever whoever ruled that way versus the other ruling is because madbilen will would would will keep the it will get the interest of the child more than so the last couple years i've been using the chabad i found like really two really amazing one is like the dark brown and this one's like a light brown like they're both amazing so i remember like when i started doing this a couple years ago there's no hassala cinderbesa it was like such a you know used to saying it every single year once i got around to it it made sense though it made sense okay but but you know for people that are used to saying it for most people they they're not happy doesn't say that you know and and and had god yet there's no hot god yeah you go to that it's outrageous or that the chabad doesn't wear a kitten like a sader and do i mean etc the different different customs but yes the hassan said the pesach is a big one it's just as big i mean everyone loves the hot guardians it's like what are you doing you know you remind me dr twyskill was shown by dr tewersky of ron twirsky at a wedding in the 1970s early 70s um a very close friend of his in pittsburgh he lived at a time in pittsburgh rabbi darren who has a son who's a son you know i want to think is lord in the old city that little chabad right there that's darren's in charge there so the father was a very close friend of rabbi torski it was a big town with hokum and he was a survivor unit came along from shanghai anyway at one of his daughter's weddings so rabbi twersky was there and you know he was brilliant and he made up grumman you know what grammar is right like these rhymes at a wedding you know on the spot he was such a brilliant man and they taped it i and i heard it it's available but it's in yiddish it is so funny he basically is speaking about it about him being a slave in the habaju in pittsburgh because that's where he doesn't he was the president of the show for many years and he comes from chernobyl towards keys and which of course go back to the outer river too but you know it's a different nusselt fila svard versus arie you know in that sense and and he and he was joking and himself and at khabad he says our holy father speak about i'm paraphrasing saying by hulu friday night for sunroom friday night comes along the bellatanya the holy bar kanye says we printed in the center but we don't say it how could you do this to us but he says it with such but it's it's brilliant and and so he goes through like all the things that cuts out from the traditional siddhar and maxer and it's so funny and this was a gift that he gave to the hustle and color into the and to the you know so he was kind of like laughing at him laughing at himself that he never is a but they're not saying things that he's used to saying i want to continue now inside the text okay i want to try to finish on page 99 what time is it does anyone know it's it's 3 18. then we're gonna have to stop we'll have to stop yeah what do you want to say my that's because i i actually have to go because myself yeah okay so we will continue tomorrow however i have another share zai doesn't everyone take care we left on it we let we left on a good note with the story with rabbi twersky it's a new one i never told you that before i don't think okay