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Essence of Chasidus #22- Mesora, tradition is key in finding your path - Find a Teacher
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uh in the mimer
in the middle of well actually now we're
on page 53
chapter test
chapter 9.
so what are we learning
here we've learned here a very important
idea that siddhis
that siddis illuminates every other part
of today
and the illumination isn't just
a
quantitative difference oh i've said a
quantitative improvement
it's a qualitative improvement
your nigla your gemara your musa your
halacha your kabbalah is a very
different one
when it's animated with the
energy of sidness
and yesterday we discussed that length
practically
what that means and and
i think it's a very it was a came out we
didn't learn in the text yesterday but
it was very very important to discuss
that issue
and to understand
that being a hussain
is not
a
technical
mechanical you know approach
another luggage someone will say
i'm going to decide if i want to be a
hossett or a lit or aspartate
whatever right
how much gamora will i know how much
you know in a hasidic school of civic
school i'm going to get less and i which
wishes school i'm going to get more
you're super going to get more i opt for
that
let me tell you
if that's the way you approach the whole
topic go there
no problem
in other words your whole approach is a
certain approach and it doesn't fit it
does not fit in
i thought i'm generalizing it doesn't
fit into the world of hasidism
and and i mean
i don't mean
a given that citizen is
the
the the informality
the informality of soul
the the the ability force the soul to
just ride
where am i going i told you i used to go
to san francisco i lived in marin county
it's a bedroom community it's very quiet
i got sick and crazy some days i got
into the car i just drove to the city my
wife says where are you going i said i
have no idea
go on a path just get out
the same here
some days maybe you don't have work
enough this that get into a car get on
the train and go
go to tel aviv
go i don't know go to your lion go
go to a
go with hustling bustling and bump into
people and you'll see what comes from it
and yes sometimes it feels very scary
right where am i going who am i going to
i don't know
not everyone's able to do that and and i
understand it
but the world of kassidism
comparatively speaking
to the non-world of custody it is
is one that doesn't lend itself to this
type of
behavior i'm making a generality i'm not
saying within there aren't individuals
here and individuals there but overall
i mean just for example right
um
the beard right
a lot of people have beards a lot of
people their beards are trimmed and very
power
combed very exact and very precise
and then you have a high-end dolphin
beard this is what it is you take it or
you leave it i've been called the half
and santa claus no no
it's open yet
what i'm saying and why what i i i don't
want to call my beard
because this is the way i was trained
for good or for bad
so when we're learning here in the minor
that siddhis
is gives a highest pradosh in a piece of
the mother
there is the gamora like i said yes at
the end of destination the way the
brisker learns a piece of the murder now
i'm going to dissect
rip apart a rambam
now what is what is that what does that
speak of
that speaks of
on some level yes
ego
i know so much and i'm gonna tear apart
around them
and and and and and it gets even worse
when you go into certain places when
they say
and rashiva could say i disagree with
rashi and and i and i've heard this
firsthand so don't tell me it doesn't
exist
is going to upend rashi
rashi is the the the teacher of claudius
and yes rashi
lends itself to
commentary interpretation argumentation
and discussion as the repetitive shabbos
nevertheless there is
an able kite to approach arashi you
understand there's a sensitivity how to
approach
a rashi a piece of gemara
you know you know how they used to learn
and you know you know how they used to
learn
everyone
before they stopped they sat down to
learn that the mother he said
i just caught this in yeshiva was i was
a boy
that was the introduction to opening the
gemara learning
it's not just an intellectual piece you
understand or it's like before the say
that before the four caches the right
the fear caches would say
tata 11 father
may you live
if they'll buy your friend if you're
cautious what do you have to say talk
11.
just start asking the questions
but the way we were trained as boys as
children or girls too
we say tata 11
the introduction
be speaks of the experience
another example
hashems
before we get to baruch
i'm saying okay
it's going to be the the blessings and
then the requests and all that there's
an introduction
and the introduction is the key to the
entire monastery what is the
introduction hashem
and the kabat city there's a comma after
the word hashem
pause
hashem
i now stand before you i need to pause
and think about this i'm not just going
to now ask because i have a need
there's god
and god wants something from us from me
hashem
my lips gift up
hashem if you want something from me
open my lips for me i can't open them
myself i need you to open my lips
and when you will open my lips
um it is then that my mouth will say
your praise
if you don't open my lips my mouth can't
say your praise and then we go on later
this minuses to ask all these requests
which seems very very selfish and the
answer is if the focus and meditation of
that first verse of hashem
first line was appropriate was proper
was meditative
then
the requests are not egotistical but
rather
as a result of god wanting you to make
that request god wanted you to have
parnosa and health and shiva and
everything else
and that's why
i have a video it might be online i
think it is they they stole it and put
it online which is it's fine it's no
more considered stolen
of rabbi raichik
no it doesn't have a right to one it's
not on ruby rajcik was the senior slayer
in los angeles he was at my house with a
mental foot of us in 1987 or 88
87 anyway and um i took a video of him
dominique monesser and i made a point in
the english subtitles of that
piece
to explain take a look
how long it takes him
to get
to kneel
hashem kneeling and up right
back kneeling balling it up
it takes
a minute whatever
i pay attention i remember i saw it i
was like what's taking you so long it's
one line six words seven words
you know it takes said two seconds three
seconds
and he's doing it in i don't know 30
seconds 45 seconds a minute whatever
much longer
because that's the meditation part if
you
you really got to be focused on hashem
stuff and then your monastery is another
feminist
so in other words
even within
it like a closet even with a learning
considers there is a humility that needs
to come along
with
and that's what we're learning over here
in different words we won't you don't
find what i just said now
in the text here in fact some will say
it's so far from the text but it's not
it's not why
because the text is saying that the
sidness adds a oil coverage to every
part of toyota
another example to prove the point
i told you years ago i i was interested
in learning about reincarnation about
gilgaling
i was looking for a teacher talking
about now
20 to 25 years ago in bara park in
brooklyn
they told me there's someone who
mastered cabola and and and flatbush
a name that people know and i don't want
to
i called him and i started to ask so i i
started to learn the history i rise up
shot at bill gulen which some of you i
think have learned there here
and i had questions
many questions and it was it was a new
field for me you know and if i didn't
learn
it's a very very fascinating
souls reincarnation migration of souls
pregnation of souls a sibling rivalry uh
first to second marriages you know and
on and on and on i mean it's fascinating
stuff really
i'm actually thinking of relearning it
and starting some shira minute because
it's a
it's a very fascinating topic anyway
so
and i got stuck
because
frankly i was i was going about as a
novice i was going about
the text of of our of arizona
i was going about it for me
so i was putting i was trying to put
everything in a box in a category
so for example if if if the summer if
the soul is reincarnated right
if it's reincarnated
how many times have come back
can adult can a male's soul go into a
woman of women's into a male what does
an animal fit into them and all these
questions like i was trying to create i
remember like this
because that was i decided i think if i
teach it this way for people who are
you know even not religious
anyone who wants to learn this topic
if i compartmentalize it and organize it
in a structured defined way
it will be easier to teach and
understand
so i tried doing that and i
came to roadblocks here there
so i said
let me ask a master
a teacher a master so they told me to
summon a flat and i called them up
and from the beginning of the phone call
to the end he was
arrogant beyond words i wanted to hang
up but out of their fetish i didn't i
said that he just was so arrogant
talking down not interested
you know
and you know when i told him you know
i'm a teacher you know what i'm saying i
i'm not calling just to to
pick your brain
then i met someone in borough park who
was a host this person was not a hustler
it was a lit a mitch learned
kabbalah
and then at bar park i met a husset
hidden away somewhere in the basement of
a house
and he welcomed me
and he he answered many questions and he
opened for me that door
then i met someone else
what i'm saying is that
even in in kabbalah this is what i want
even in kabbalah even in jewish
mysticism
where you would think
it gives more room
for this informality the answer is you
can learn the kabbalah like a lead
which there are many that do
the villain going was they say the
villain was greater in kabbalah
than in gamora could you imagine
and then there is the way a husset
learns a piece of kabbalah it's a whole
different couple
it's a whole different kabbalah it's not
the same kabbalah but we're learning the
same text we're talking about the same
ideas yeah but you could be talking
about the same ideas with the ego with
the eye yes yes yes sir
i would say that they're
not considered to learn considering
texts
that also learn very differently
uh
that they just it's like
a different language they just and yeah
they like they like it they take a lot
out of it but it's not
it's not the way that i've learned from
my teachers and the message is different
it's a good it's a good point you're
making and it's it's very relevant today
a i say
they should still learn they should
still learn to this
but you're right you're right and that's
why you need a teacher
a rebbe a teacher a hust
these things are are
communicated by reading a teacher really
you don't get it in a textbook you know
for example
the silver shoulder of the holy son of
islam right it's it's a govaldiga text
it's involved right
but there's a way of learning it which
in a way i you know i've looked at it
i've learned some of it
it can be also very kind of formal you
know and then there and then if you
learn it if you learn it
because he was a if you see he's
speaking tanya there like left and right
you know what i'm saying so obviously he
was a student of tanya no
when you when you really learn a piece
of italian especially if you're learning
with a with a a a hussain who learned
tanya from a teacher and a teacher a
teacher there's a messiah
and
some great people have have written
about kanye
have
and and i find
because i learned by people that i'm a
sailor of your car mercedes
you know and his father and those back
centuries
right
there's a mercedes there and then there
are people
who don't have a mercedes they have very
good heads
and it's a whole different time here and
guess what
some things are completely
out from our mercedes wrong
there is there is you know
of innovation
okay so first of all the rebel ashab and
the rabbi were very careful to say that
you know one should not go and make up
his own stories
in a safer time but even if you're
you're just exploring it for
conversation
and and say to those they're still a
messiah
and this is uh i really want to get to
the next paragraph but this is a very
big issue i'm glad you brought it up as
you're very you touched on something
very very important
you can learn
siddhis and not be a hostage you can
learn citizens and be accosted and not
have a mercedes and and and it's not
it's not the cities it's just not in
other words the garage see them have a
tradition the stolen company is going to
have a tradition
their theirs their citizens has their
tradition you agree or disagree but
that's their and and they have the
basara and they have sources
because i asked them when i went into
the stonewall on 16th avenue borah park
and for the first time you know as an
adult when i came back in california
and my ears almost fell off and i saw
them swaying i mean i and i saw them
going back gasping for air and then
going forward and going wow they're
screaming and a full of 200 300 people
and and
and you know it was i loved it but yet i
i didn't see that this is avoid the red
so i asked i asked the the players there
who knew you know
is there a source for this where did you
pick this up
they said yeah and based on we could
show you they're about
look at that leader the stone he says
the bits of it that this
means
shouting loud the words of darwin
okay
it's not the khabarov it's not the
blessing of avoid it's not the chernobyl
avoider but it's there for you
that's the messiah
that's yes yes he will
just couple comments on what you're
saying the first is i once heard from
rob
that he uh teaching from uh
from carl and stolen where he said the
son
of
the son of the stolener asked his father
if i scream in davening with the same
intensity as if somebody held a knife to
my throat would it be enough and his
father said well it would be a start
oh that's good
what else the second is i want to say
that you know in
using the example in the sieve of shalom
i sort of
i really began my learning of clasitus
with
the sea of shalom and i used to and i
still learn it every day
i find it immensely rich and very sweet
and satisfying and i used to quip about
it
that it brings a kind of lip fish of
order and clarity to casitas
it
i mean i've learned through the tanya
probably six seven times now and it's
the and the order of it still does not
make so much sense to me
uh
you know the ideas they all sort of they
kind of resonate but sometimes i come
across an idea i can't believe i
it never jumped out of me before so
i feel like uh
so in some ways it's like it's
it's uh it's not misuddara in my mind
right and
um
many people
walk away that way but there is say
there uh rabbi chase taub
years ago put out maybe in some line he
shows you the sader of tanya and maybe
one day
once maybe i'll give a few shiurim on
that to just show you the sedan because
it's important
i have a good book i have a good book
that helps a lot which one um
history it's story
it's story in history
i think it's my englishman yeah but does
that do
does that give you
besides the history does it show you the
flow
from chapter let's say yes yeah
yeah so that's good that's good anyway
your nakuda
is a very good makuta and i can see and
understand why a lot of people begin
when they see the shovel
again because let's look about the
western mind you know you're college
educated oh map of tanya excellent
excellent that's it
hilo mentions a good point
it says map map of tanya
it's an
that would be very good
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it's been very helpful
right i know the one that you have i
know the one that you have
the one the one that the one that answer
has will be more helpful um regarding
the order that you you're looking for
in
nasibu showa is is is a very good
introduction
because it brings you into the world of
citizen right
and it's
like you said you know it's it's it's
it's the lift it's the literature
by the way there are many people called
the lit fox within
you know but not talking about now the
culture now talking about now the the
learning
and for many people especially the
western way of thinking which we're
educated you know
in that way
it's it's very helpful it's very very
helpful and of course the the messages
and and and the results are
but but it
it shouldn't be an end it should be just
you have to go further
and
so let's say
gareth cebus
again what is gareth asidis fas
right i mean
it's a very difficult safer
and
a few study it now there's been a a a uh
resurgence of of gareth hasidis and i
think even some have translated into
hebrew they've made it big
they opened it up like serious mubarak
and tanya
they started to do that they learned
from the
vote hashem and they started to open up
that right
but nevertheless
like what what does gareth see this
what's the philosophy
so so we know that the slo samus the
great sabbath is fascinating
he had a tanya and he learned that it
would go to their doctor
but nevertheless
he took it into the middle right so he
would always say
what's the difference between us and
they begin with moah to the left and we
begin live to the moa
okay
the acronym of which is khabad and what
does it say
the warmth of my
heart so the guerrilla would say that
that
says
that's how bad and we say the acronym is
how we be completely
right whatever the possible valentine
which represents the warmth of the heart
okay so that's the look at this between
uh the the swastemus is uh look at this
citizen but nevertheless there's a
mercedes
so
so it's important to
to know
uh to get to the messiah and that's why
it's important to try to find like i
always would when i went to the karina
you know shul the prince
i went to rabbi what's his name uh i
figured he was 90 to 95 years old he's
like the
famous car prince korean family i forget
not a name
anyway the point is that the elders
hopefully
received from the you know from their
generation like someone told me the
sacrament is a palm springs i have this
thing maybe i'm gonna go down there next
winter because you could get to speak
them privately this is what these are
things i would ask him
and i don't know i don't know if he'll
know he won't know or you want to share
with me what's their tradition what's
their tradition of sickness
you understand
what's your tradition of sickness what
did you hear from your grandfather what
it depends on
which no no
no i'm not talking to politics i'm
talking about you know they had a
grandfather of your title bone you know
they they were alive they heard what
tell me what what what what is that you
know and because from what i've asked
and to be told that there was really a
schwa answer or bells right i've asked
spells in other words i i inquired about
these things by different kasich groups
from my own knowledge and as i write and
think and talk i want to be informed you
know i want to so i asked i remember i
asked belser on a plane was going from
jfk direct to throw
he says he's learning tomorrow
okay they make maybe like this twice
with that grab a finger and you only
make once
well what's sinners what what is it
that's what they told me
so
you know
again i'm not saying this to to put i'm
not
i'm just saying there's a mercedes
is very very important i would think
that in
as far as the teaching of the status of
siddhis
the messiah is the eager
and that's why much for one second
that's why i'm saying this
you can learn even from a great mind
or you can read their writing on tanya
or other places
and it's not going to say it
and i know that because i learned from
people who had the messiah so i'm not
saying that psychologically and
rationally they're not making sense they
are but it's not the messiah the way
the the in khabar has been transmitted
from the altered down to our generation
and and that and that's
you know that's it i'm not saying you
shouldn't but you have to know that yes
moishe what you want to say
i was going to ask if i'm wondering if
someone like rabbi uh
dr abram
although i wonder if he's written about
this
about this question
you know it's interesting i'm glad you
you you know i don't want to mention
names but
i discussed in my book conversations
with the rev some of you might have it i
wrote many years ago
i discussed this the topic of being in
russia with rabbi twersky because you
know here i had him one-on-one and he's
a psychiatrist and he's a thomas huffman
and he's a a son of a rabbit he comes
from the chernobyl dynasty i mean i mean
you know this is great right
and he and and it's fascinating i
remember i you know i was you know i was
already uh
35 you know 30 35 year old that wasn't
old but you know i was a thinking adult
and i walked and i you know i learned by
the masters to this
and it was fascinating but it wasn't the
messiah it wasn't
it was in other words what
did was
he took this tanya and he put up the
psychological terms that none of my
teachers did because that's not the way
they talked
so
if i were to teach and and and want to
communicate the psychological approach
to what the alternative says i would
definitely use
but i wouldn't say to a student in
yeshiva
study this at this point because you
need the foundation you need the
mercedes so i got the mercedes for my
teachers then at 30 35 when i speak to
rabbi dr twersky i appreciate so much
more what he says but i also realize
that that's not the messiah
so it depends
what you're looking for in other words
so
for example
tanya would say gimbal than either much
being i said that it's kamara neither
right you administer an oath to the soul
be righteous don't be don't be wicked
seven
oath
and satiate
and and the explanation is that the soul
is satiated with seven soul powers
that's not that's not the shock of the
mark
and guess what
most people who are not
who don't know this don't learn tanya
that way
in fact
in the in the in the uh
hill others have used which is fast
fantastic
um either they don't even bring it or if
they bring it they bring it in the back
and i asked robbie old times you know
who's the editor and then
friend and
very knowledgeable he said listen we are
writing this
for every eve in the world
we want them to learn tanya and
understand tanya in in the in the way a
regular ben taylor learns a piece of
gamora
this interpretation is not kept shooting
it's not and it's not necessary to
understand the simple text of tanya so
why confuse the that particular person
who's not on the bobbinger and wants to
understand congress
there's an example
of an example of you can learn the tanya
without the commentary that the word
also means shiva seven and and so they
are to satiate and then there's a
mesoderm that says that there is this
interpretation and it makes sense
according to the tanya and the alcohol
that's why he chose this mission etc etc
so here's an example of how both are
right
but there is the messiah and there is
the normal singer
so did some someone reverse tanya
without the the messiah of shiva and and
sovaya is he learning incorrectly tanya
absolutely not
does he have the message absolutely not
you understand and this is only one
example
and so and this and the same is true in
every citizen
in other words hillary i'm sure
that in the mercedes challenge those
that are you know students uh you know
if no one's left but i'm saying make the
they're just one of my red man
there are certain mercedes
and i'm not
and this is something that's
communicated from a teacher to a student
and that's why it's so important
to learn from a teacher
and i remember after dr tourism shared
that with me and i was like fascinated i
discussed with some of my friends and
some of the people in the community
and and and they said it's nice but it's
not you know it's not the text
and the answer is it's not
because rabbit wasn't coming from that
condition i'll tell you more
i i met someone
who told me that he learned tanya with a
laboratory in crown heights he was a you
know very fine jew and
and then
he went
at night at 11 at night to see the
soccer redmond williamsburg
and he discussed with him tanya
and he saw that that's it i mean
this is what the person told me i can't
i you know say one of these he says
satmarov
told him he talked spoke to me tanya and
he was impressed like he knew
the way he learned by his laboratory
teachers
so the saatva rub said what do you think
i learned italian the way your hungarian
learns italian
he says i i also
heard
from people the tradition of tanya and
that's how i know it
i remember telling this and i still i
it
it really made an impression
sapler
of europe
who came from hungary and it was you
know there was no obama spirit there was
no colleen there was no wrestling i'm
saying you know
it was a trickle here trickle there but
basically it was it was hungarian town
you know a whole different culture
overlapped
you know uh yet it's a whole different
culture
and he and and and he and he knew the
tradition of how he's supposed to learn
the way the tradition is that's amazing
that's amazing that's a pivot that's a
finish so what does that tell you
that the normal way that the way the
hungarians learn tanya because first of
all they were related the doubt that
ever was that they held their elder
great great grand grandfather way back
you know it's covered
now everybody it's called this
and they learned it
but they learned it in a hungarian way
but it's a different style of learning
that's awesome sharing that they could
okay
again we didn't learn any texts but i
think we spoke about some very important
things it means monday will continue
yes
yes one one is that i have a statement
that we learned extensively rabbi yoga
gershol in baltimore
called uh from the remedy of
um horticulture called the sacred is
called paleox probably sure
it's a fascinating to me now having
become more steeped in the in sort of
the rhythm and language of khabar
how it's kind of uh it's very much
khabad
kind of in a different with a different
uh with a different organizational
framework or different collection
uh so that that's just one thing because
uh that
that's sort of an example of one of the
traditions that sort of took out a
difference right a different kind yes
and and i'm aware of the safer i'm aware
of
it it's a tremendous safer i know what
you're talking about
it's really uh just right so they took
it off the shelf after a couple of
decades
also i just wanted to share an act
anecdote you're talking about the sora
that's a very charming anecdote that
happened to me personally
that when i was newly married
i was by the old told the remember of
yogurt
for shabbos
and he had a classic an american classic
who had who was a quadriplegic he'd been
injured uh
introducing a wheelchair
uh and uh very attached to the toddler
eva
and my last
you know as i went to take leave of the
telnereba
he was learning it was a multi
so you know i i
i i was very very new to everything but
it made an impression and i could read
the word rambam undercover
and uh so
25 years later
i was in our sister with my kids and we
had a shout out with
the
daughters family
the parents of the current dogma
and mostly shabbos he takes me to the
mall of america
in the childhood based madrid
and before that we go up into the
opera's apartment
and uh it's mostly shabbos and he's
sitting there with that same fellow that
same quest said over shalom he still is
now gone they're learning rambo together
and it made such an impression on me
that you know these this is how you get
steeped in something you know you do it
every week
when the time people come and just go
the generation passes but this is how
you do it you develop comedians
exactly and and that's the story with
the market i think he said what did you
learn i learned how to tie my shoes
what have you learned from the market
i learned how to tie my shoes you need
the market of reservation
there's certain things it's saying that
saying this and that when you see
you're ready you see your teacher tie
your shoes
it's a whole different experience
yes
and
one of my favorite little
words from in the casket is the time
spent sharpening the eggs is as
important as the time spent cutting down
the trees very good
very good better you have a sharp ass
much more effective
that's the custard there as a sharp axe
but the idea that i've come
yeah yeah and and definitely
see them are very big on the corner and
maybe more yeah
than the actual
mice
yeah and the example is how
cleaning much cleaning cleaning for face
off intake it's only it's only seven
days yeah
right and then it's one through three
it's over
i'm from i haven't heard anything from
you i've drunk today what do you say
about all this let's see i've grown
very interesting
but i don't really mind sitting back on
stage
okay
no
so so you have all these camera
you know you understand what's your
thoughts
did you finish your vlogmas did you
finish
wow
i bow down to you
i'm serious
your vomits you know the three hardest
receptors are on me
i mean it's a poor right
on the iron stands for aravind
noon stands for neither
and you there's your bonus those are the
three hardest deceptives
so if you can master your wellness
camera
have a great travis
see everyone give me to share monday
take care bye-bye
thank
you chance