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Essence of Chasidus #16- Oil vs. Wine: Chasidus vs. Kabbala - Mashpia: Who, What, Street Smart
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so and all the mock locuses are over
yeah
halaby okay 47.
dom chapter 7 let's continue
this is now going to be
giving a muscle for cities
there also for the reason that we
mentioned until now that has
the the study of considers the teachings
of the
is an or
that's
remembered
is a new light
a new energy
is that's why hasidis has been compared
with sherman to oil
it says that chairman is rosin derozan
secrets within secrets
there is secrets of the torah and then
there is secrets within secrets
that quote is brought from a safer
called imribena yes i have a safer
called him
do you know anything about it of course
was authored by the second lubavitcher
of dave bear
it's
known to be amongst all chabad hasidis
the deepest cities
and one that when we were in yeshiva
like we
we were afraid of it like how can we
wrap our heads around embry bitna
so imribena
yeah that's it you see you're innocent
you're innocent gets right into the
heart of heart of the issue and he has
an english translation
of imrabino so look look at note 63 for
a moment look at note 63
in india bean explains the difference
between wine which is called the secret
of theta
and oil which is called secret of
secrets
as long as wine is withheld and
concealed inside the grape
it gains strength and quality
conversely oil does not gain any
additional power at all by being
contained and withheld in the aleph
thus wine
is the category of the hidden
the the resin
and has the numerical value of the word
sold secret
hence it derives strength from being
withheld and concealed
conversely oil however
transcends the sense of concealment and
revelation
and therefore the constraint the
constraints
of concealment do not give it any
additional strength
thus
compared to oil also transcends
concealment and revelation and therefore
has the power to reveal the hidden as
explained above a note is a phenomenal
thought wine oil i'm saying wine
the more
secret the more it is within itself
within the grape the better it is
kabbalah
is by its very nature a study and a
realm
of being inside
to yourself therefore when you say you
don't cabal is not made for the public
the public eye and the public domain
is is is is contrary to the ethos of
kabbalah
what see this
see this is not as people think
a a further development of kabbalah
that's wrong
sidness uses capitalistic ideas and
language but siddhis
its orientation is just the opposite
it's oil
oil
functions best in the open platform
in the revealed state
that's why we call oil not just razine
we call it razendirazi
now if if you understand this if we
understand this
it really
right away tells us
yes let's ask jayden and then he'll then
yeah uh
the oil floats on top of the wine
correct
but at the same time
it touches the wine and everything that
touches oil becomes oily right
right
on the one hand it
got two opposite properties on the one
hand
and floats above the oil and on the
other hand makes the wine oily
right so and what what so what is that
in the nem show what is that in the
moral
could you repeat it i didn't quite get
what you understand said
uranus has said that we find the
phenomenal thing about oil on one hand
oil oil floats above everything else
so if you have wine
oil is
an oil together
in a mixture of oils on top of the wine
it folds on top
and at the same time
oil makes the wine and everything else
oily
so on one hand
it's
like on one hand it's like a secret
right on the other hand this type of
secret which we call the secret of
secrets doesn't it
impacts
the wine
in other words so the the the nem show
you didn't get a chance to say it but
the nintendo is that hasidis
on one hand it has an element that feels
and sounds like kabbalah but at the very
same time it makes an impact
on kabbalah
that that that it's accessible to the
human mind and that's a citizen
is that a sin would you say that is the
correct nimshu yes
hillary you wanted to say something
well it's sort of along the same lines i
think
um
it occurred to me as we were saying that
that
and wine mixes with water and oil
doesn't
you know it is it's distinct and uh
uh it remains distinct
and in fact wine often really needs
water in order to be palatable right
right okay okay
but again so so
that's in the mushroom how is that in
the nymphs you have to bring it back
home
you know and and oil the other use of
oil that occurs to me is that
oil is used to sort of externally to
soften things so often so you might say
that
casitas has this
this element of
it's accessible to people where often
cabela's not um is you know uh right
it's just it's not tolerable so to speak
right
i like the way you promote it right i
like the way you said it you're innocent
it makes things oily
and it's true it's true it makes things
another way and so to put you your
comment and pillows in other words
together
when you learn siddhis
you you you become oily
you become one take a s
a donut that's oily your hands
are oily when you put it after you
when you learn scissors
so it seems to illuminate kabbalah and
other things right right right
and i'm saying is someone who learns to
see this and and learns it properly and
and lives with it
they're oily
you you could you
and this is this comes in line moisture
what we discussed uh the other day which
you you really you know felt uh moved by
and commented on
siddhis
is not just an intellectual study
is one that that imbues you that it's
noticeable in you you're you're a piece
of siddhis
and and and and that's that's what we
need to get to that when someone looks
at a hostage and doesn't make a
difference what type of closet any
closet they know this is a hostage
here goes a hostage
you know and that's and that's that's a
beautiful thing
but it comes to come
in other words
yes yes
you may disagree with it but i i'll say
from experience that there are people
who can learn hasidis
intellectually
just as much as they can learn
torah intellectually and it does not
respect them and impact i know they are
i know that
you have to go from the head
to the heart to the action i'm not
disagreeing of course
and of course it's not that
automatically you learn
or you learn gamora you're gonna no of
course not but i just said that i i
second what you said i wasn't saying not
i said that
ultimately
the the the oil makes it oily
said meaning this
it needs to make an impact
and if it doesn't it
if it doesn't
you know that then whatever you're not
you're not living the the the the the
real the real
uh the kuda
of the bolshev you know
it's a certain the kuda it's a certain
that that that that expresses itself in
every aspect of your being so so you're
so is
i mean how did you see what i said as a
contradiction i'm not contradicting
that's what i'm saying
yes yes
the meditation that he wanted to
connect to maya
and and and meet her
yeah but you have to be willing to
meditate you have to be willing to be
misbinded
you have to be you have to be willing to
to put aside your yesh and your ego and
your and your you know and everything
else and and just
live but but it's at the same time if
you don't learn
if you don't think
if you're not misbending it if you
then then
then you don't have the platform
to where
to help integrate
what you're learning intellectually
with the practical yes
and and i think that the the failure in
some people is they learn it without a
mushpia yes and it really well okay
that's true
but until you get a speed until you're
able to go to a sheer you should
see this you need to learn you need to
learn but ultimately yes that that's why
the whole idea of a mashipiya and there
ever you should know in the 80s revived
something that was done at during the
time of the altar ever where they had
mashpeem going
and coming in and and and and uh you
know not just teaching but but offering
guidance and working with people and
over the second years you know because
of all the difficulties we had um you
know in the community with the pogroms
and everything else
communists and all that
it was kind of forgotten and the rebbe
said and he appointed uh people in crown
heights just as an example which is you
know the hub of chabad
and the river said that you guys and and
allah is here you know he says i'm sorry
you need mushpm you know i grew up
hearing from
like this
the the the what
what a rabbit does and teaches is is on
one realm on one level and in a way it's
distant from us
it's this
we need it but it's
you need a mashiach that's exactly what
you're saying yes sir in other words and
in a way
what what khasidham said and did and
shared was closer to the person it's
it's who we are we're in the community
you know
he's he's he's giving the world or
you know and we we look to benefit from
it but
practically
you need guidance and the rep and the
rapper
in a way more than the other obey him
he taught this message
you didn't reveal him
experts rap on him mush pm in other
words
uh you want to know how to implement
what you're learning that's exactly what
you're saying you sir get yourself on my
spear
and you know there were times
see it on the videos where people went
over to the rebel sunday for dollars and
they said so and so and my mashpeah said
and the rebels said to them quietly find
yourself another mashbeer
so
so that that comes from from ireland you
know what i'm saying so that that's a
that's a soul thing you know what the
rabbis says hey
uh
as as as nice and as yuma spear is i see
something about your noshoma that needs
a different tickle and a different beer
or a different mahalak but that's you
know that wasn't except it wasn't but
generally speaking
um
and this is a big issue this issue i'm
glad you brought it up is there is a big
issue in in the community
because since there ever called for it
and
i know for my my my daughters you know
there was a stigma a stigma attached do
you have a mashive
in other words it was so kind of beaten
up
that it became a stigma
for for a girl or a
particular girl or boy to have a mashive
someone
oh that means i'm something's wrong and
it wasn't and that wasn't at all the
situation that that ever spoke about it
wasn't something's wrong
to help you
implement
the
the cycle into the medicine to behavior
as we've been discussing
is is important and
the
the issue is
who is the mashpiya what is the criteria
for mashmi
right can anyone take the mantle of
being a spear
well you know superficially yes but the
anemias i mean it's just like you know a
social worker psychologist a
psychiatrist a person needs to know that
what they know and they don't know the
other day someone you know
was speaking to me a young man about
about issues and i felt he needs
medicine because he's depressed
i right away called to some
organizations that that that's not my
field i mean i know enough that i think
to say that i think he should see a
psychiatrist but the one handling it and
giving guidance is not
high in dolphin not a rabbi but a but a
professional
and so it's also very important and this
is where it gets very very tricky you
know
you know
look
we just covered know that right
who decides i mean this is an age old
machis
is different disagreement who decides
how
and what should be done in the show when
you have
it or here and there a rabbi or a doctor
what's the answer
the titus says
so a doctor in conjunction with tata
comes and gives the final and i think i
think tell me if it's different
narcissist in america i think
the the rabbun and most of the rabbis
and also in the hasidic community at the
end of the day
they sought counsel from the
professionals the medical professionals
and they then gave their ruling
which which i think you know is the
right is the right thing
but you've had this issue you've had
this
disagreement
throughout
the rebber when he wasn't well right it
was a disagreement
probably so they checked it was a
disagreement when when a rat when a
scholar
do you bring him out do you not bring
him out do you show them to the public
do you hide them from the public
you know yeah you had these issues yes
you're innocent i'm sorry you wanted to
say something yeah i do i i heard from
them about pokey and they said that
one of the content of getting out my
sphere is you just have to have a little
bit more unique surviving
uh
i i i i would say not just a little more
you shamay and lots of more years
but but but but also but also
you know
i have to say this
you have to get someone who has smarts
you know if you get on a spear was a
fool
it's it's a it's a bad situation
do you understand i'm saying
you have to have street you have to be
street smart
there were certain people over the years
that ever sent people to them because
they were smart
you know like remember foot of us right
rabbi hutner
these were very smart people streetwise
you know what i'm saying where they
could put aside their religiosity
and their fruit guidance
and tell a person this is what you could
do i'm going to say something that's
outrageous now but but it i just want i
want to give you an example
someone who's ready leland emma's
he told he used to be making bali
troopers
between bali truva talking about in the
70s and 80s
and he said to a
fellow he said to him how was your date
he set him up
and the guy was you know
about shuffling he was very froome and
he said
i didn't care for her
so then he said to her
did you give her a kiss
and the belcher
he says
what what
that's the way i lived and behaved
before i was religious before i was from
what what was the point he was making
you know did he really mean he should
kiss her i mean he's from if they're not
you know shy by the gear
i i don't know what he meant literally
you know and i don't want to whatever
but i i know that
it was a message did you engage in your
date
in a in an emotional way in a in a you
know
did you you know the two people are
meeting or did you say hey i'm on a date
the torah says i should meet someone and
here's the script and this is what i'm
doing well naturally if that's what
you're doing you're going to walk away
saying i don't care for her and next
that's what i mean by smarts you
understand
so you go and tell this to someone in
lakewood or place in the casino
community they'll throw you out
like
you are the one setting up people where
you're telling them to kiss the girl on
a date what are you uh
this is a fruit community right
do you understand
you need to have seiko you need to have
smarts that's all i'm saying
so join us i'm saying
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has takes all kinds and you know you can
have sometimes a big year to shamayan
but he's not shy
to being practical
uh i don't know such a must be i i i
wouldn't go to such atmosphere
and uh it's a week before gimbal thomas
that ebb is a yard site so it's time for
hakana and we should reserve it to the
golden slayer we'll see everyone next
next monday zeitgeist