Did Misnagdim apologize for their mistake? Tanya Igeres HaKodesh 2a- Rabbi Chaim Dalfin

so we're learning Tes letter two and just an introduction the first letter the AL BR various times from 17 70 7 you could say like 1770 till 1788 he wrote it originally like 1770 he then added another time we don't know the exact year and then the third time which he added the third section of the first letter he added um 17 1788 now that's the first letter the second one that we're about to begin he wrote when he came back from Petersburg where he was he sat in jail for 53 days for spreading kidus the inad the dayut K is the day that celebrates his survival from prison and if after he came out he wrote a letter so that was in 1798 so the difference between the first letter and the second one is at least is 10 to uh 10 to 28 years okay the second letter the second letter if you look at the top the first it says me Peterburg right where where is this over here here upon the arrival from Petersburg and then afterwards it says number two the only other time Ines where there is a a caption above a letter that the Ala wrote that is or that his sons wrote is 27 which is associated I believe with the passing of son and he writes that that's written before the actual letter but there you'll notice that the number 27 is before the cap caption here the number two is after the caption why so only our can come up with an answer of a kind and it's an answer that that that addresses the overall idea of and that is Mas there there was pre pre 1798 and then there was after 1798 after and the re brings the Z anive sorry when you squeeze it it gives out the best oil and in the analy in the in the moral when one is pressured and put to the test that's when they perform best so by the AL began way before 1798 but then it was kind of coasting and it didn't make its impression when did it really make its impression PG after his return from sitting in jail for 53 days in petburg which today is Leningrad right well today it's actually back it's called St Petersburg they they changed the name for a while for L Len grad right so Stalingrad lenrad those were the old names that they changed because they wanted to remove the memory of the villains so therefore the Bas over here comes after the caption in other words if not for the caption then which it which represents the experience the batan went through sitting in jail for 53 years there's no significance toid that's different than in a way all ofas and I say in a way cuz there's still a difference but if you look into the discourses of the Bal T um primarily till 1798 they're on the brevity side they're more brief and and and even some that are you know kind of technically many words and many pages but the concepts are not elaborated upon after petor where the AL was squeezed was pressured and what was the pressure why are you publicizing to the masses the idea of delving into the intricacies of God about creation purpose of creation manners of creation and everything else which all other from breast to bells to to etc etc is more General they don't delve into these intricacies so so the the Gaza from on high there was a decree you might be wrong balat for doing this theik themselves the the Cher they were all sikim so they were they knew and they uh they were able to relate to all of these teachings individuals cuz they were great n shamas and great people but the average man on the street it's overwhelming for them and because there're many of them were very simple yeden who barely could read on and on Etc it might actually turn them off so there was AA from on high there was a decree maybe we should stop thisis in what form y did Thea take take place on Earth in the form of the balat being informed on by the misn that he's funding the Turkish government over the Russian government the zarus government and he was imprisoned for 53 days and his life was in Jeopardy that was the manifestation of of what was really happen happening was one second H was not now I once told you if you remember that Not only was the balatan arrested there were about 20 others also arrested but the the the the primary um hisus opposition toas at that time was was the alter re was kabad and okay yes hello what what year was it in the secular calendar that that this the uh Altera was imprisoned 1798 1798 yes you said yes okay so that was before the coming of The Poon right correct yeah correct yeah so the whole the whole story of the balatan and uh his relationship with the other ref some who supported Napoleon and he was against Napoleon that all was 20 years later 15 years L uh yeah 18 1812 or so just before you know a year or so before uh he passed away 1813 so yeah it was around right so it was 14 years earlier 14 years early approximately anyway the very end of the of the bat life was that whole episode yes yes okay so this explains why the cat what yes I'm sorry Yi yes y question you said that they the that basically they they were uh malan the lit box were mtion on the r to of to the Turks no the the the the the the sag doesn't mean all there was a group ofn very opposed Tois in generalis in particular and the they had their reason was they were concerned that this would cause another shap another false Messiah that would ultimately to what we would call today a fry out a a worldwide a worldwide fry out on Russia and Ukraine so the AL was sending funds to ER to support the K like other groups were sending money and yes they they they said that he the Turks were in control of er Israel at the time so the argument was that he's funding the Turks and and and the and the zaris government saw the Turks as their enemy so they they said this is a you know counterrevolutionary this is that type of behavior yes that's exactly what took place this I can't I'm sorry we this happened what didn't didn't didn't it happen a few hundred years earlier with the bmov as well um not so much with the BTO with the mag of M the first the first uh excommunication that the going of v and the Rabon OFA the was during the the time of the Magid of m not I don't believe during the B's time no it it you're talking about you know you know 176 something like that the mag passed away in [Music] 1772 3 772 he passed away of 772 uh so it happened a little before that maybe 1770 you know that that's but that that was onus and there was a reason why it took place then because there was a group of known as the to from the year T 1770 who were behaving in a way which belittled the the lit Fox and cu the litx it was all SE intellect everything has to be in its box everything has to make sense and the B brought about the the soul so the soul is out of the box so we had a Schism so they would go into a store a grocery store and ask for a pound of nails they would want to buy a pound of nails which was ridiculous you don't buy Nails in a grocery store they did this to make them themselves look foolish to belittle rationale right they they was they knew you don't buy Nails there but they did it specifically to to to try to break the the the the mentality of the time was everything has to be normal and this and they did and they made sumers salts in this in the street right when you walk down the street to your Sho you don't see people usually making somersaults and they were doing somersaults wild things and this caused by the by the misn them an upro this is like this this is you know kind of leading to a sh in a different form so they came out with a and and they went to the go and they told the go the G was learning day and night the and then they told him this so he accepted it and they put out a an excommunication that was the first one so that was in 1770 during the time of the maget here we're talking about 1798 18 years later and by the way there was in between there was once or twice other in other words you know you know how it is you put out a settle you know on the you paste on the wall all those signs you see the same idea they put out C announcements to oppose cus and to and they called them the cat the cat means the cat the group cut means a group like this is the cult stay away from the cut no business with to have with the cut don't marry anyone from the cat okay and and uh so much so that that they sat sh if if someone of the M married a family of came Fromm they they they would sit you know they it was outrageous it was not accepted and if if a son or a daughter became a likees I told you that story two years ago his father from the city of which was really a city s for him like you said when your son is killed God forbid or daughter I mean we can't imagine this today we can't imagine it but this is not just documented in kabat sources this is documented in academic sources in in all kinds of um Diaries of people who didn't remain from who did remain from so from all sides this this is a fact this is not bubes made up by to you know C Cast NE it on on amag and so the the trajectory for years went on with and it became a very big split and to the point where they then the AL when he took over when and ab kalis left for in 1788 they appointed him to be the Reba for the whole area called rys which is white Russia or today bayus by lusia and then he started to teach his style of to everyone not just to kabik to everyone in that area okay and this just exacerbated the M because you know when when you're when you're teaching you know um when you're teaching Basics you know so you know you you don't have straws to grab on to to say ahuh uhuh but when you go into details as we've been learning for six seven years you you see you guys see with your own eyes and you hear with your own ears what is right here you could you could you could you could grab on to these ideas where philosophical ideas how did God create the world yes like like it sounds so much like philosophy like what and philosophy is a dangerous field yes we had Jewish philosophers but everyone know s um yes but they were great men the average person didn't study Jewish philosophy now when you when you learn it could easily sound like philosophy and it's very scary for someone who's a novice so so when the Al from 1788 let's put that year as a date for the next 10 years cuz that in 1789 the first three chapters of Tanya he said first three chapters and then he started to teach the Tanya and then he actually printed the Tanya in 795 or 96 whatever you know so progressively teaching through the AL was progressing continuing so this came to a head in 1798 where they actually saw him more than the stal the carer and the Le and they you know cuz they were not teaching they were teaching General ideas of you know so they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't put the pressure on them as much but when with all this you know and the when the Tanya we could say that when the Tanya published I think was 1796 when it published before it was in in in cont in essays you know you come into a Sho shabas you got everyone has right we have these handouts today there's so many of them they flood the tables right you take a look at it you look at it you read it you put it down you know and where does it end up going in the garbage and if you very for you put some of them into Ganer right but pretty much you don't look at them the next week you wait for the next Friday night shabas to get the new ones so the Tanya originally was in in these type of cont essays so it wasn't significant but when it published when the first line was published oo now it's a safer a safer is something completely different it's feel it hold it I know people smell who love the smell of print it goes into your bookshelf it's a safer and that's why it's so significant to use a safer if I have a choice of you using a handout or a safer if I have the safer I'll use the safer so when the sa was published this was a real threat to them oh now now they're going to get to the average person now they're going to make people really urser they're going really going to become part of the cat so we have to stop it from on top you don't go to here or here you go to on top who's on top the bat the author the re and that's why they had him they had him imprisoned they were Mal they they informed on him and it was very close but theim saw everything I just told you as a result of the spiritual decree on because maybe they were right maybe for the average man these things aren't relevant and it will lead them astray so this was the this was the Judgment in Shay in heaven that was going on during those 53 days and when the AL was Vindicated it proved that his D of of teaching ofis of the B and elaborating in the way of kabad is the right way is an accepted way is a Kosher Way so from once the the the the the the olive going back to the analogy of the olive when you squeeze it the best oil comes out the best of and that means the best way of of of developing character and being came because of the of of the G and the imprisonment and through the Vindication it means no you no you balat continue teaching your and continue teaching it in a greater and better way I the opening words all of that you didn't have until after 1798 when he returned from his imprisonment in Petersburg and that's why it's symbolized by the baze the number two this isn't just this number two as a letter this is the second letter out of 32 letters that too but b means that said this b means that this is the second stage and the deeper stage in the development of it became it came because of of Petersburg because of the imprisonment and by the way it's a very practical thing for us in our lives and we like to bring everything down to practicality that when you go through uh what we call a negative experience it it if you take it the right way it makes you stronger and better and deeper now we don't look for the negative experience right but the fact is every one of us whether it be in our private lives in our communal lives and now there with it's definitely uh some kind of XA you know what's going on so if we we have the right attitude that this is just a test it's a very strong test and we should never know of such a test but the fact is we're being tested you know you could jump up and down and and and and and pretend pretend that's not happening and you're a big fool it's happening unfortunately big time it's happening so it's a test so just know that when you when you when you pass the test and you stand strong in the test you come out stronger and SL will come out stronger in mem to eliminate once and for all these Terrors and Etc and and the world will see they just found I probably you saw I read yesterday they found uh sino's computer and they found manuals and and everything they've said which you guys all know they found it on the computer the the way he gave instructions and and the way they wrote up the the psychological um you know um Warfare tactics and and and how to pretend that they're they want to make peace on and on and on all all they found it so so now what can what can America and Company say we have his computer he's giving instructions what the way they should go about this war so all of this is to make us stronger let's learn some T because we can here all day actually we have three minutes so let's begin so he says I believe says I have become humbled from all the kindness M and all the truth so let me just say there's two pusham here there's Rashi and ran Rashi says so so yob is about to meet asov right but is the whole story The wrangling with yob and and Yakov is scared and he's asking Hashem to help him why Yakov so the says my my kindness that I've done for you God has been diminished why because they've been used up you know it's it's brownie points you know it's like the children go in they play in the arcades maybe adults do it too and you get tickets you get points and after a while you know you you don't have anymore you got to you got to play more you got to pay more money buy tickets right the that jakov had as yobu he felt were already diminished and now he has to face asov so the question is what will he have what kindness will he have that will get him through the ASA that's that's what the PK says this is what Rashi how Rashi explains the verse so the even though it means I've become small more humble and all that but the says refers to the the have become less so really rash's is that the doesn't go on him on jakov but it goes on who on the comes along the ran the ran says Rashi how can you say that it says right what does mean I have become K I have become less small so what do you mean ran refers to the acts to the and then ran disagrees with Rashi and ran says not the have become less maybe they did but that's not what jakov was concerned about he was concerned about K that he has become humbled in in other words he's he's humble and he's concerned that Hashem won't won't answer him he he's coming out of a place of humility and out of a place of humility you don't think that you are God's gift to mankind you don't think God you're God's gift to Mankind and you have to face asov you get very concerned right you have a you have a you have a court case whether be for a driving ticket or something else you stop and think Who Am I who am I after all and if that's the case who says I'm going to win and I need help Hashem help me yakob felt the same way the here does a fantastic thing he basically accepts both commentators Rashi and ramban but with his own twist and he says it through the word push which is the next word push remember I've told you over and over whenever you see the word pet it means there's something here that's bothering him what's bothering what's bothering out the is Rashi is interprets the simple text and the raan has a great argument and question on Rashi how do we reconcile it is uncomfortable allowing Rashi to be squashed and disqualified by the ran cuz Rashi is Rashi you know says you're both right because Jakob were diminished it caused in him a feeling of humility so so so according to the Al's interpretation the goes on the person like the ran says and the refers to the Ran's interpretation and and Al and this is the the uh trajectory for the for this letter is that the humility is not because he's afraid that his his his um his good acts his his merits have been diminished his humility is genuine he's humble because he re recognizes it all comes from God that the ramban doesn't say and that the Rashi doesn't say that the Alba says and he comes to that by combining both interpretations in other words according to the r it's very simple no philosophies here you have you have merits that protect you and will help you and and and yob was concerned they've been diminished so I'm I'm I'm going to lose against asov according to the ran that's Rashi according to ran yob was humble and it wasn't didn't feel worthy Dr is saying you know why yakob didn't feel worthy not because he was a failure because he realized that when God does a to you you're closer to God obviously since he's done that kindness with you so wow not that you become any more important you understand there is this feeling he's going to say it later there's this feeling ifem does a with me H I must be a real special chap I must be a special guy he doesn't do it to to to my friend why did he do it to me I'm I must be very worthy that's what the AL says yob said no I'm not I'm not worthy I'm I'm humbled before you God it's only because you did it because you chose to beow upon me this kindness and save me so it's a whole different attitude it's not coming out of a weakness the humility is not coming out of a weakness like you know you have someone who you know they didn't succeed and that then they're broken and they don't have funds and you know and they feel very very broken and they're humble because of that that's not what we're talking about here Hashem just did with Hashem did with yob such tremendous kindness so you would think yakob would say h why is Hashem doing this to me I must be something special in God's eyes so says yob says I am I am looking at the that hasem that you did with me not that I'm anything special that it's all about you the moreid that I have in my life that you give me it points to my being more distant from you meaning distant in the sense of you're so much aw you're so awesome in other words and this is a the in your life the kindness in your life should lead to more awesomeness for God more reverence for God not more hey hey buddy you know come here buddy we're buddies we're no buddies with God but Hashem helps you and he does it's like hey he really likes you and this other guy that you know you D with in sh he don't help him so says you have to realize that if does to you it's only to recognize his greatness and this idea is the introduction within this chapter to the second part I'll tell you what that is and then we'll finish and continue tomorrow mm and that is that after he came back from Petersburg from his jail the wanted to go out and give it to the MN and to really let them have it h you tried killing our rebba and the court said that he's right and he's Vindicated and he's authentic and therefore you're all a bunch of losers that was what they wanted to do so the Al I think the next day after he came out he right away wrote a letter to them be quiet basically in English shut your mouth you'll see later at the end the words means clo be quiet from mention in English would be shut your mouth don't say a word because if you say a word with a that shows that the is coming from a place of ego says the fact that did AED with me and with with and it was Vindicated is a reason to be more humble and it's a reason to recognize God's awesomeness and that hasem for some reason who so we're so far from God Hashem expressed himself through this particular Vindication that's the connection between the first half of this CH letter and the second half and I conclude that this is why possibly it's a second letter in thees I think bar was asking me about the connection between the letters and it's a it's a very difficult study and I don't think there I I don't know if the Reb ever showed the connection of the 32 letters but I was thinking about your your your your approach bar which I'm glad you you brought to my attention I'm thinking about it as we learned possibly the first letter is about what the first letter is about it begins with the sh thanking the for making the and then he talks about daving prayer and they you should Pour Your Heart Out in prayer is the language of the alter till the assocation of the soul I think to to experience the second letter which is to keep your mouth shut when your enemy even unfortunately if it's your Jewish enemy wants to kill you and get rid of you and harm you and keep your mouth shut you only could do that if you D properly if you connect with Hashem through daving and you you you understand and you feel through the DAV hashem's awesomeness then you'll keep your mouth shut and won't laugh at your enemy and this is a very I don't mean enemy you know the Arabs and the Nazis I'm talking now about our our own brothers and sisters okay and this isn't I was thinking a lot about this this is not easy it's not easy imagine someone I asked this question H to to people if someone goes and slaps your father in his face or screams at your mother in public and humiliates her aren't you going to want to get retribution from them a normal person would say absolutely what aah outrageous outlandish here a group of Jews did this to the the normal thing would be is we want and now we're going to show you comes along the person who was almost dead almost died because of because of this and he says be humble and be quiet and don't say a word it's it's a very I know for me for me when I think about this it's like it's hard it's a hard it's hard it's very hard and but that's the message you know just like I think um Hil someone of you guys asked you know the first chapter the first get says you better D for an hour and a half shakas shakas and I'm sending spies to check out your shoes right and the balab rushing off to work during the week should have no right to go for the right so someone I think bar asked me so do we still do this today good question cuz most most shoes and most others we don't die in an hour and a half okay y said in car they do I'm talking about during the week I I'll challenge you y I don't know I you telling me in a regular weekday daving in car box an hour and a half no no no no on a shabas on a shabas he's talking about during the week he's doing during the week the closest one that I saw to this is a on 16th avue you in B Park they D in probably an hour for sure every day and and maybe closer to an hour and a half okay but the point is that that was the the Prelude kind of to this second letter to be able to control yourself and to refine yourself and to come to a point where you don't want to take revenge of your of of the one that wants to hurt you that needs a lot lot of self-refinement it needs a lot of work where do you experience that work in when you DAV and you say the words and you think about the words and you sing theic tune and you close your eyes and you shed a tear and and and you work on yourself and that takes time an hour and a half you know you you'll say I don't know what God wanted but obviously there was a higher calling and Hashem saved saved me and got me out of this problem so now I have to not just thank him but recognize that it's all God and how God who is so awesome had mercy on me who was so nothing you know Etc okay any questions okay have a great day everyone we'll see everyone tomorrow Z yes y want to say something sorry a quick thing I just want to ask was there ever an apy issued by by the no I'll say it this way the salvic Yash they didn't offer an apology because they come from was the main tal of the going but they they liked theab and the previous re and the they had a relationship so their actions bepoke of an of an apology yes but to tell you that they made a proclamation that we were wrong um as far as I know the answer is no again and again you're talking about a two 250 year history so the ones you see y it it was that period in the 1800s from theed time on and the son of he was very tight with theed so this animosity and and and M dissipated heavily heavily during the 1800s and and lit Fox were lit Fox and that ain't changing till mhia comes but the but the the the the animosity and the you know the you're you're a cult and all that dissipated listen you know from you were in Brooklyn you were in certain yeshivas you know that even during the re time it unfortunately came back during the first part you know of his life when he became the rebba because he started with talking about mashia and he started talking about the reaching out and this was a revolution to many of the to The Establishment so some of that some of that animosity surfaced back but today it's again put put to sleep pretty much you know you know if if you have a taking a little they'll sit you sitting down together and then you might hear some stuff you know but but in the even in thetic World it seems to have been diminished because I remember when the uh the Reby passed there was some unkind thing said about him in the in the uh right right yeah but that thee right right but but but but but but but H the were all in the same bag as the AL 250 years ago right they so the issue that we're discussing never was between there were other issues that you allude to you know but from the the m to the and vers and vice versa don't it it it was a fight it was a real a real a fight that uh was was really vicious and you know so what what I'm saying to you y is that because for a lot a lot of a lot of the time let's say in the early 1900s they were they were good with the re they came they did communal work together gave money to the Yesa I mean there's letters and letters so we find that that there was um kind of a Reconciliation practically it doesn't mean to say that like like Rabbi salic the RV says and then I love the RV since I wrote about him in 1968 he was in Boston at the you and it's on tape you got to listen to it it's it's it's it's it's unbelievable he says I am from the he has the uh the German accent from the house of brisk B I am a great great son great great grandson of of the of the I am a so what am I doing here on UT kler so so so so and and and then he went on for an hour to explain what is and what Al and then at the end you thought he's the biggest of the AL which he was in a way you know so though y those were the type of words and and behaviors that you could say there was an apology but it it wasn't you know an apology in a statement officially clear have a great day everyone Z take care bye bye bye take care 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