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Creativity vs. Studious
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Maamar Lecha Amar Libi 1941 #4
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we're on page 10 in the mime of the
malibi
and my mother will cut him the safer
we're using volume three ice base
the last thing we learned yesterday was
the importance
of having
uh
an experience with hashem
and that ebba said
practically for the average person
that's through the realizing recognizing
can and should be
so yesterday we spent a lot of time on
the word mukash mukshis
which means tangible actual real
and
the idea of riya murshis
see to see
hashem
in such a clear way as though you could
touch him
is something that
is not
is not that is not within our experience
at least not on a regular day
but nevertheless
we're charged to
to have that relationship so that ever
says yeah
the relationship you can have is
sorry
and that's why
the navi uses the word exa versus the
word ere
because exa represents
not the clairvoyance of ere
but nevertheless some form of a
relationship which still which means
perception from my flesh
i will perceive god
now you understand your innocence that
the word perceive is different than the
word see
and why is that not just because it's
that way in english
it's because the perception is
perception
well what do they say perception is
reality right
what does that phrase really mean
but the truth is it's not the way you
perceive
but the way the world works is we take
and we make out of perception reality
what that epp is saying in the mind is
there is
some real reality to perception
what is the real reality to perception
it's ecze
what is eczema eczema means
in your realm wherever you are and
whatever you are and whatever you're
experiencing you can and need to find
hashem and you'll find them and for you
that is
so you can't have
normally
ria but you can have he doesn't use the
following words i'm going to say but
this is i believe what he means you can
have
ex
you don't find such an expression in the
paragraph hillel
just a definition of it again i'm sorry
mukhash
it comes from the hebrew word
you're in you live in artistrol how
would you translate
um
i'm just thinking when i when i i don't
use that word usually like i'm
like like what is it it means like like
what actuality that's right uh what
about the word
concretize
okay
okay what does the word concretize mean
to you
it comes from the word
concrete
right okay it's real it's actually
actualize actualize i mean i i i usually
use the word it's tangible but if the
word actual speaks more to you use that
word
so you could say actually tangible
i i like the word tangible
there there's another way of using the
word in the hebrew language
not with a huff
means to
to make a tangible to make it concrete
to make it real
so
there's something called
ria mujosis or
riamuxis which means
the reality of seeing it
now
do we see hashem when we look out the
window no
we see uh we see stones and and the sun
and the trees
what do you mean i don't see hashem
i s what i do see
i see the trees and the sun and this and
the cars and everything else
that i do see the muhash
so
siddhis
talks about
having that same
seeing experience with god well how
could that be
and that's what he's that's what he's
addressing here
and he's saying that for the average
person that cannot be
we don't have real muhashi's in god
as a general as a general rule you know
what can we have as a need to have as a
general rule
this is my own i'm coining this phrase
it doesn't say it in the mind
reality tangibility
in exa
what is the exact experience in this
memory says it's ash protest
so when you
have an
experience
that is exempt
so
what is that
protest
that
protest is the notion the idea
in other words i don't see a face of god
i don't see an image of god i experience
a godly experience vis-a-vis the divine
providence that took place in my life
so from that perspective i see hashem
yes
jainism student homework
there that that moisture was not
thriving to see i shouldn't face but he
saw him at his back
so that was an after-effect einstein
2020 then then he saw a ship
so how could the person only after the
fact that it happened then you can see
it
because they tell what's going to happen
in the future
um
it's a good point you're making
but i really want to think about it more
because the the the
what you're saying is
protest is in hindsight i mean
of course that's true but i'm not
convinced
that that's the only
protest
why why why must have a protest be in
only in hindsight why can't
this be
before it happens it is so
how i say this
it is so sure to you
because of your ammuna now you might so
you might say well that's a munna that's
not a protest that might be a counter
argument
right i want to think about it but you
make a very good point
hillary emotion did you understand what
jodie said he made a very good point i
think so
yes moshe what do you say
motion i'm the youth yourself
i'm sorry i said if you could maybe give
a synopsis of jonas's point i didn't
quite catch it
johannesson was saying
that the difference between three and
muhasis and
erza mohash's
you cannot see human being cannot see
the face of god
but
but so what but what did he see the
backside the question of the film what's
the backside represent the backside he
said represents the after the fact
the face represents
now
the back represents later the back
so hashem said to moisha
you can't have that now experience with
me because you can't see god it's
impossible for him to see god but
through asgard pratis which comes later
after something happened
you can experience god by thinking about
it and realizing it's just a protest
it's like everybody every wrestler knows
that if you want to take someone down
and grab them from the back and we want
to we want to bring down godliness so we
grab them from the bags right right but
moisture do you understand that was your
innocence point so so he's saying
so so without what i what i
what i said to him it's a good point i'm
just i want to think about it not now
and think about over the
you know
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according to unison's thinking at least
if i understood it correctly it's like
a practice is limited
to after the fact
and i'm not sure that's always the case
i'm not sure if that's together the the
category the condition the definition of
a protest
but but the point he made
initially it sounds right
right
it it could set right i could see why it
could sound right
yeah in other words you know um you're
driving the moisture to get your cloth
over there from baitar when we went to
whatever right something happens
you went for one reason and later on you
realize i didn't only go for that reason
something else absolutely happened later
on you didn't know that when you intend
when you started to go when you went
there
right
and and and and and he didn't say this
but this is what i'm adding to what he
was saying is that that's the why it's
just that it's not rhea it's f it's like
the back side of rhea so you have like
like hillar said you have the front face
which is rhea
seeing god and you have the back which
is just perceiving god
but again not perception is reality in a
false way but a real perception
a perception that is valid and authentic
right
in other words in motion independent of
what people say about the perception
right usually
one's perception depends on what others
decide
about your perception
and either it becomes valid or invalid
depending on
those that
perceive in a certain take your
perception and and use it a certain way
we're talking about the person to
himself their own perception and for
them
it's real let's continue now okay
ice base
obey the indian who to explain this
further the hindu see if it says in the
title
nasa adam we shall make man
with salmeno in our image
in our form
in our form because we're saying that
our image our image our form
the
mata man below
is created
in the image and form
of supernal man
commercial kosovo as it says in the in
the
school that we read in the after
of chavois quote
says he sees a chariot the throne
so on the image
on the chair on the throne the key say
he sees the most camara other an
appearance that looks like a man
a mill mila that's sitting on the throne
hey him as his feet is that sillies
what does this other this man sitting on
the throne represent
the 10 heroes the 10 spheres the 10
emanations
of the world of atsilos the world that
is closest to
hashem to kessel
and these ten emanations
have a similarity an image of man
so
you know you have
hesed and gevorah and tavares and
all the times heroes
man has a compilation of all these ten
so two heavenly man
has emanations that express themselves
through these ten modes
is that clear i mean these are this is
the fundamental teaching in kabbalah see
this all has without it
you know you're lacking an understanding
of the ten spheres
okay
ten emanations mean ten ways in which
hashem
energizes the world
hesed represents kindness giving
benevolence gevorah represents judgment
and discipline
to ferris represents
mercy
a charisma
that's a beauty etc and he says
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through
knowledge
of the details of our soul powers
meaning the ten ways the soul operates
in your name and their and their content
after the new lahasic we can comprehend
and understand the in your neil kush
godly ideas bizarre noise in the
supernal worlds
so the rabbit tells us
you want to understand how god operates
up there understand yourself the more
you understand what kessler is within
yourself the better your you'll
understand kessler of god and so too and
so the rest of the emanations the
spheros
the lay they protegm
and this knowledge healer consists of
knowing the details
of these emanations
by half of the chakra liverpool
including
knowing the difference the general
difference and the and the specific
differences should have been called
swedish feeder between each vita
someone stops you in the supermarket
and says moshe tell me what hold this
height
and you tell him that he says tell me
what's the difference between
and that's ah
so it was
i was uh a teenager and i was in the
mikvy here in borough park
um after the midfield washing my hands
and i have a fellow husset washing his
hands next to me we're about to exit the
mikvah
and as a uh a passionate young
laboratory teenager of the 70s i turn to
him and i say
do you know what the ten spheros are
and he looks up at me
and he says
i have no idea what you're talking about
so
i said to him
aren't you a husset
you're dressed like a hussit
you smell like a horse and you are a
husset and you want to be a husset
and you don't know what the 10 spheros
are
i'm not asking you you know to explain
but you don't even know that there's a
concept called tense
he said no
i said don't you learn qasidis
he says no
i said aren't you a husted he says yes
do you want to be a cousin yes but in
our yeshiva
they don't teach us hasidis at 16 or 17
years old
in chabad
we do teach hasidis to 16 17 year olds
and we do want and expect them to know
the difference between
haid and yeshua
because it's not just saying talim
like the like the capitalists and
spartans say zohar or ashkenazim
and we don't know what we're saying
because
writes such great poetry
and we are ignorant in poetry at least
hebrew based language poetry written by
david
by bialik
so we don't know
well this friend of mine this cousin did
not know what tense feeders are
i think and i hope and i pray that
there's been a change that at least they
know there's such a thing called tense
fetus
here we're learning in the minor it's
not enough just to know that there are
ten swedish
here the rebels says
you need to know aheti
the general and specific difference
between each sphere
you need to know on the tip of your
fingers
like you know ashrae and norman yahish
may rabbah
let's continue
and
just
as the as the general difference between
the sweda of kesser the crown
compared to the spheros of
right what's the difference
kesair is a crown that is on the head
it's not in the head
moshe where is khachma das in the brain
in the head
it's it's faculties of the mind
is there a difference sure
kesar is makif it encompasses
a practical example kesser is the wow
you come to the sheer you come to the
lecture
you say wow
you see in experience you say wow
unbelievable
then your wife asks you or your son or
daughter a friend asks you could you
tell me what are you wowing about
you say i have no idea
that means you have a makif knowledge
you only have a superficial knowledge
and from a superficial perspective
the wow
is
is is the best is the
greatest but from a ponemous perspective
you still do did not digest the wow
and guess what
there's a time
that you shouldn't digest the well
and then there's a time when you need to
digest it
in other words the initial
flash of inspiration
is more powerful when you go wow
right
that excites you
then you need to take the excitement and
break it down
and bring it home
because
your wow experience doesn't talk to
people that you die in a room table who
didn't who weren't present when you had
the wow experience so you could wow up
and down and it means nothing to them
what does mean something to them
when you explain to them in detail
why
it made such an impact on you and you
use examples and you explain which is
then they say we hear you
we don't feel your wow
because we didn't have that well
but we understand with our mind
why
and how it is that you did have a wow
experience
this is hilal
are you with me because you look like
you're frozen on the screen
this look this this is what we call the
difference between
kesar
and
bina das
is that clear so far
okay
oh
it was the difference between kassair
this is the intellectual
spheros right where
the other seven are emotional and we'll
call them emotive right emotional but
kessar
help me just remind me where does cancer
fit in tesser is not part of the ten
spheros it is the crown
up
over the ten spheros
okay right okay
yeah but but but moshe that
here he made the general difference
between kesser and benadas he didn't
speak about yet about the seven emotive
ones
and i gave the example my example of the
wow experience versus
understanding the wow experience is an
example
to explain the difference between kasair
in comparison to khachmabina das
okay okay the crown of the king the
crown of a safety torah
is is is demonstrative of wow we have
something very special there's a crown
here
but then yeah then you have to ask
yourself what is special about it i
don't know all i see is just one crown a
crown
i have to learn the torah
with my
pinandas to understand
what is special about the tata that it
deserves a crown
clear
yeah okay
back inside the text
oh i have to shut closely or take the
general
difference pence fetus
now he he speaks about your difference
that you mentioned before
las vegas
this is the difference between the
intellectual
emanations the intellectual energies
khabad
versus the emotive ones hagas
i have
and this is all
a part of
his point that
that that um
in order to understand
supernova man
in order to understand hashem you need
to understand yourself
and therefore he gives examples of
understanding yourself as the spheros
are within yourself
and so now he just mentioned the
difference between the intellectual and
emotive spheres and then he says
understanding i have the prati
the specific
differences
distinctions
within the spheros
and the spheres within each element
you know we say during the 49 days
between pesach and chavour as
that's an example
of what hillary that's an example of
details within the spheros
yes hilo
is there a um
is there somewhere in the superhubbard
that
maps across
the uh spheros to the
there is a mimer that the rebbe said in
1951 i believe pasha's mr
it begins with those words it's printed
there there the rabbit gives an example
of of what of what you're asking about
for the sphere of hasset
he gives an example of the nine within
cresset
then there is a book a very important
book to read it's called ten keys to
understanding i've mentioned it to you
over the years
it it's from rabbi
mattis cantor and he does a phenomenal
book somewhere yeah well take that book
out
it's a phenomenal book and he'll and i
know you would appreciate it
tremendously especially
especially especially now that you have
so much more knowledge
you you'll be faster and finally rabbi
simon jacobson um has a uh a kind of a
guide for the 49 days where he also
explains the four so i would say those
are three good sources
is that you're looking for
something that's you know very good
that's uh pretty more comprehensive than
that one
uh more comprehensive more comprehensive
than jacob says you mean yeah
right
yeah it's nice you know this is an
emotional this is something to think
about today i'm i'm looking for uh you
know uh
how do we how do we sort of create a map
of the psyche
uh
alpi cabala
for that i would probably go to rabbi
yitzhak ginsburg's work i would i would
think that he's done that already
are you familiar with
you have his his books rabbit ginsburg i
have some but no i'm not
so why why don't you you know write to
someone uh there probably is an email on
his website galainai and i i'm i
i i'm sure that he has already tackled
that you know if you're looking for more
of a kabbalistic and thing like it with
the spheros and and i would do that so
do that okay
generally speaking we can divide the
spheros
in heaven the godless emanations in two
categories
machiafem opnemium
encompassing the word machiaf or plural
makifum
opnimium from the word penemius
shame shloesha sugim kailulim
they include three
categories makifim
they are kessler example is the makif it
surrounds
it encompasses
there's no one specific place which you
could call it's a boat
but it's throughout the entire
person
then you have moist which is panemias
because michigan is in the brain
and the emotions are in the heart
well the whole
and in each of these categories
each emanation
within this these categories are
different than the other emanations
let's say he says for example
take the emanations of wisdom
understanding
in what category do we put them in in
the category called miken
compared to das is different
than than each other but it's
in its very essence
in other words moshe
what is
it
is creativity
yay listen what is bina
development and analysis
and hilar what is da
focus and concentration
so overall we put them into one category
the intellect
but when you start looking at them
each one
is so different than the other one
right you see there's a person who's a
creative person
and there's another person who is an
analytical person
try having the analyst create
they fail
try having the crea the creative mind
sit
calmly and analyze he has
as we the expression goes ants in his
pants he can't sit still
but he's a genius in creating an idea
he comes up with the best ideas
but to sit still he can't mattis cantor
i love the example that he gives in this
book it stuck in my mind i read it years
ago
the difference between
a tree
that's rooted
in the earth
barring a hurricane a storm that we had
here
it stays in its place
it's there day in day out you can count
on it
the tree is there
what about the soaring bird who flies
high low
over water
over ground
it's very thrilling it's very exciting
but you can't count on it because you
can get wiped away
knocked down
and goodbye good luck
so creativity
is like the soaring bird
analysis
is like the root of tree
is there a difference between the two
absolutely
nevertheless are they both part of the
intellectual process yes
but one person is
a
strong
and another person is stronger than
beena
and and it's very important to know this
especially
if you're an employer just as an example
and you're hiring someone
and you need a
the creative mind to come up with a
certain program a certain app
you're not going to ask the
the analyst because the analyst cannot
come up with that idea that's not the
way he or she thinks
what they're good about is sitting and
taking the idea and developing it
and then you have a third element to the
mind das
tas is neither creativity
or
analysis das is focused on concentration
and it's a rare i would say it's more
rare to find a person with us
think of people you know
and you'll see you know more people that
are
i would say the most type of people we
usually know and interact with are
bina people at analysts
analysis
people that are really creative really
creative is is like once in a generation
you know i'm not talking about people
who mimic other people and who have a
good tongue and a good mouth and they're
able to chew
reach to chew someone else's creativity
and to spit it out in their own words
now we have plenty of people
but someone who is an original thinker
a few if you have a few original
thinkers it's in every field of of
intellect in the world we experienced
there's one einstein there was one of
your khan
okay
yeah one rabbi salavaitchik these are
very exclusive individuals because they
represent
creativity
now some are also gifted where they have
other aspects binandas
das
at least for the average person i think
is is the is the most rare because das
means the person who is so thoughtful
so focused and concentrated that when he
when you present a problem to a person
who's strong and does and that's the
type of person you should be looking for
when you're looking for advice
they they not only understand the
information
they they've processed it
and they've processed it in a healthy
way
they concentrated on a focused on it and
include
who the person is asking
what the situation is
and what the expected reality is
all of that is is part of a das
experience and that's rare
i know that ebba when people came to him
that needed advice for certain things
and he suggested
one or two people who he said go speak
to them you know in addition to giving
his bracha
but if you needed something practical i
heard that he suggested and one of those
people who who i knew about
was besides a massive talmud
was simply a very smart person meaning
very sharp
and
understood a situation
so that's an that's an element of dots
yes
i'm just wondering if you or anyone else
in the babura uh can he can help me to
sort of reconstruct the memory before i
before i made aliyah there was a an
israeli company
that had a um
an online personality test based on
kabbalah
that was recruiting therapists and uh
i had uh some interviews with them
and
and then the company kind of disappeared
like nothing ever happened with it but
but the test that they had
was all color was all um color
configurations
uh
you know i i remember taking it and i
don't remember exactly what
the results were but it was all
different colors and they
they were correlated to the spheros in
some way
that you get that that was that ended up
being some kind of an algorithm for
for
for telling characteristic personality
has anybody heard of something like this
um
that
okay i can't remember the name of the
company it was just fascinating i don't
know who the who the people behind it
were i don't know if they were genuine
it's i i i don't know but it sounds
fascinating
it does it uh yeah
you know
i have a book
here
i happen to have it right here
that i believe
it's just
i have that book and in fact it just
friends with the author yeah
yeah because because he talks about here
the colors of the spheros
right i know there there is definitely a
whole tradition in kabbalah of the
colors of the spheros this was this was
um
a uh a whole a different sort of added
dimension related to that
that i that was new to me and i i would
and i was just trying to reconstruct it
as we were talking about this
yeah i also know jakob david schulman in
fact he re he he edited one of my books
years ago the book i wrote on rabbi
david brin oliver show them was a
shliyaki in my in florida
um
yes so
yes you're innocent
that we say on our seventh anniversary
the
detailed explanation over there what the
smiles are
and giving uh
another detail below
so
they give very interesting points so
maybe you know could mean that there's
some kind of writing yeah
familiar with that
specifically what i'm specifically
interested in what was behind my
question was the overlap
between that and the tencopos
that the balatonia talks about we tend
to talk about the cocos on epic in
rather general or vague terms
but uh how do
how they map to the sphero since
in more detail what just is was sort of
behind my question okay i'll be happy to
sit down and talk to you about that here
okay
that that's it look forward to that okay
so you guys that make a time when you
could talk and that would be great about
it anyways
have a great day make the best of the
day and we'll see everyone tomorrow
good good talking good learning bye