Creativity vs. Studious

we're on page 10 in the mime of the malibi and my mother will cut him the safer we're using volume three ice base the last thing we learned yesterday was the importance of having uh an experience with hashem and that ebba said practically for the average person that's through the realizing recognizing can and should be so yesterday we spent a lot of time on the word mukash mukshis which means tangible actual real and the idea of riya murshis see to see hashem in such a clear way as though you could touch him is something that is not is not that is not within our experience at least not on a regular day but nevertheless we're charged to to have that relationship so that ever says yeah the relationship you can have is sorry and that's why the navi uses the word exa versus the word ere because exa represents not the clairvoyance of ere but nevertheless some form of a relationship which still which means perception from my flesh i will perceive god now you understand your innocence that the word perceive is different than the word see and why is that not just because it's that way in english it's because the perception is perception well what do they say perception is reality right what does that phrase really mean but the truth is it's not the way you perceive but the way the world works is we take and we make out of perception reality what that epp is saying in the mind is there is some real reality to perception what is the real reality to perception it's ecze what is eczema eczema means in your realm wherever you are and whatever you are and whatever you're experiencing you can and need to find hashem and you'll find them and for you that is so you can't have normally ria but you can have he doesn't use the following words i'm going to say but this is i believe what he means you can have ex you don't find such an expression in the paragraph hillel just a definition of it again i'm sorry mukhash it comes from the hebrew word you're in you live in artistrol how would you translate um i'm just thinking when i when i i don't use that word usually like i'm like like what is it it means like like what actuality that's right uh what about the word concretize okay okay what does the word concretize mean to you it comes from the word concrete right okay it's real it's actually actualize actualize i mean i i i usually use the word it's tangible but if the word actual speaks more to you use that word so you could say actually tangible i i like the word tangible there there's another way of using the word in the hebrew language not with a huff means to to make a tangible to make it concrete to make it real so there's something called ria mujosis or riamuxis which means the reality of seeing it now do we see hashem when we look out the window no we see uh we see stones and and the sun and the trees what do you mean i don't see hashem i s what i do see i see the trees and the sun and this and the cars and everything else that i do see the muhash so siddhis talks about having that same seeing experience with god well how could that be and that's what he's that's what he's addressing here and he's saying that for the average person that cannot be we don't have real muhashi's in god as a general as a general rule you know what can we have as a need to have as a general rule this is my own i'm coining this phrase it doesn't say it in the mind reality tangibility in exa what is the exact experience in this memory says it's ash protest so when you have an experience that is exempt so what is that protest that protest is the notion the idea in other words i don't see a face of god i don't see an image of god i experience a godly experience vis-a-vis the divine providence that took place in my life so from that perspective i see hashem yes jainism student homework there that that moisture was not thriving to see i shouldn't face but he saw him at his back so that was an after-effect einstein 2020 then then he saw a ship so how could the person only after the fact that it happened then you can see it because they tell what's going to happen in the future um it's a good point you're making but i really want to think about it more because the the the what you're saying is protest is in hindsight i mean of course that's true but i'm not convinced that that's the only protest why why why must have a protest be in only in hindsight why can't this be before it happens it is so how i say this it is so sure to you because of your ammuna now you might so you might say well that's a munna that's not a protest that might be a counter argument right i want to think about it but you make a very good point hillary emotion did you understand what jodie said he made a very good point i think so yes moshe what do you say motion i'm the youth yourself i'm sorry i said if you could maybe give a synopsis of jonas's point i didn't quite catch it johannesson was saying that the difference between three and muhasis and erza mohash's you cannot see human being cannot see the face of god but but so what but what did he see the backside the question of the film what's the backside represent the backside he said represents the after the fact the face represents now the back represents later the back so hashem said to moisha you can't have that now experience with me because you can't see god it's impossible for him to see god but through asgard pratis which comes later after something happened you can experience god by thinking about it and realizing it's just a protest it's like everybody every wrestler knows that if you want to take someone down and grab them from the back and we want to we want to bring down godliness so we grab them from the bags right right but moisture do you understand that was your innocence point so so he's saying so so without what i what i what i said to him it's a good point i'm just i want to think about it not now and think about over the you know [Music] according to unison's thinking at least if i understood it correctly it's like a practice is limited to after the fact and i'm not sure that's always the case i'm not sure if that's together the the category the condition the definition of a protest but but the point he made initially it sounds right right it it could set right i could see why it could sound right yeah in other words you know um you're driving the moisture to get your cloth over there from baitar when we went to whatever right something happens you went for one reason and later on you realize i didn't only go for that reason something else absolutely happened later on you didn't know that when you intend when you started to go when you went there right and and and and and he didn't say this but this is what i'm adding to what he was saying is that that's the why it's just that it's not rhea it's f it's like the back side of rhea so you have like like hillar said you have the front face which is rhea seeing god and you have the back which is just perceiving god but again not perception is reality in a false way but a real perception a perception that is valid and authentic right in other words in motion independent of what people say about the perception right usually one's perception depends on what others decide about your perception and either it becomes valid or invalid depending on those that perceive in a certain take your perception and and use it a certain way we're talking about the person to himself their own perception and for them it's real let's continue now okay ice base obey the indian who to explain this further the hindu see if it says in the title nasa adam we shall make man with salmeno in our image in our form in our form because we're saying that our image our image our form the mata man below is created in the image and form of supernal man commercial kosovo as it says in the in the school that we read in the after of chavois quote says he sees a chariot the throne so on the image on the chair on the throne the key say he sees the most camara other an appearance that looks like a man a mill mila that's sitting on the throne hey him as his feet is that sillies what does this other this man sitting on the throne represent the 10 heroes the 10 spheres the 10 emanations of the world of atsilos the world that is closest to hashem to kessel and these ten emanations have a similarity an image of man so you know you have hesed and gevorah and tavares and all the times heroes man has a compilation of all these ten so two heavenly man has emanations that express themselves through these ten modes is that clear i mean these are this is the fundamental teaching in kabbalah see this all has without it you know you're lacking an understanding of the ten spheres okay ten emanations mean ten ways in which hashem energizes the world hesed represents kindness giving benevolence gevorah represents judgment and discipline to ferris represents mercy a charisma that's a beauty etc and he says [Music] through knowledge of the details of our soul powers meaning the ten ways the soul operates in your name and their and their content after the new lahasic we can comprehend and understand the in your neil kush godly ideas bizarre noise in the supernal worlds so the rabbit tells us you want to understand how god operates up there understand yourself the more you understand what kessler is within yourself the better your you'll understand kessler of god and so too and so the rest of the emanations the spheros the lay they protegm and this knowledge healer consists of knowing the details of these emanations by half of the chakra liverpool including knowing the difference the general difference and the and the specific differences should have been called swedish feeder between each vita someone stops you in the supermarket and says moshe tell me what hold this height and you tell him that he says tell me what's the difference between and that's ah so it was i was uh a teenager and i was in the mikvy here in borough park um after the midfield washing my hands and i have a fellow husset washing his hands next to me we're about to exit the mikvah and as a uh a passionate young laboratory teenager of the 70s i turn to him and i say do you know what the ten spheros are and he looks up at me and he says i have no idea what you're talking about so i said to him aren't you a husset you're dressed like a hussit you smell like a horse and you are a husset and you want to be a husset and you don't know what the 10 spheros are i'm not asking you you know to explain but you don't even know that there's a concept called tense he said no i said don't you learn qasidis he says no i said aren't you a husted he says yes do you want to be a cousin yes but in our yeshiva they don't teach us hasidis at 16 or 17 years old in chabad we do teach hasidis to 16 17 year olds and we do want and expect them to know the difference between haid and yeshua because it's not just saying talim like the like the capitalists and spartans say zohar or ashkenazim and we don't know what we're saying because writes such great poetry and we are ignorant in poetry at least hebrew based language poetry written by david by bialik so we don't know well this friend of mine this cousin did not know what tense feeders are i think and i hope and i pray that there's been a change that at least they know there's such a thing called tense fetus here we're learning in the minor it's not enough just to know that there are ten swedish here the rebels says you need to know aheti the general and specific difference between each sphere you need to know on the tip of your fingers like you know ashrae and norman yahish may rabbah let's continue and just as the as the general difference between the sweda of kesser the crown compared to the spheros of right what's the difference kesair is a crown that is on the head it's not in the head moshe where is khachma das in the brain in the head it's it's faculties of the mind is there a difference sure kesar is makif it encompasses a practical example kesser is the wow you come to the sheer you come to the lecture you say wow you see in experience you say wow unbelievable then your wife asks you or your son or daughter a friend asks you could you tell me what are you wowing about you say i have no idea that means you have a makif knowledge you only have a superficial knowledge and from a superficial perspective the wow is is is the best is the greatest but from a ponemous perspective you still do did not digest the wow and guess what there's a time that you shouldn't digest the well and then there's a time when you need to digest it in other words the initial flash of inspiration is more powerful when you go wow right that excites you then you need to take the excitement and break it down and bring it home because your wow experience doesn't talk to people that you die in a room table who didn't who weren't present when you had the wow experience so you could wow up and down and it means nothing to them what does mean something to them when you explain to them in detail why it made such an impact on you and you use examples and you explain which is then they say we hear you we don't feel your wow because we didn't have that well but we understand with our mind why and how it is that you did have a wow experience this is hilal are you with me because you look like you're frozen on the screen this look this this is what we call the difference between kesar and bina das is that clear so far okay oh it was the difference between kassair this is the intellectual spheros right where the other seven are emotional and we'll call them emotive right emotional but kessar help me just remind me where does cancer fit in tesser is not part of the ten spheros it is the crown up over the ten spheros okay right okay yeah but but but moshe that here he made the general difference between kesser and benadas he didn't speak about yet about the seven emotive ones and i gave the example my example of the wow experience versus understanding the wow experience is an example to explain the difference between kasair in comparison to khachmabina das okay okay the crown of the king the crown of a safety torah is is is demonstrative of wow we have something very special there's a crown here but then yeah then you have to ask yourself what is special about it i don't know all i see is just one crown a crown i have to learn the torah with my pinandas to understand what is special about the tata that it deserves a crown clear yeah okay back inside the text oh i have to shut closely or take the general difference pence fetus now he he speaks about your difference that you mentioned before las vegas this is the difference between the intellectual emanations the intellectual energies khabad versus the emotive ones hagas i have and this is all a part of his point that that that um in order to understand supernova man in order to understand hashem you need to understand yourself and therefore he gives examples of understanding yourself as the spheros are within yourself and so now he just mentioned the difference between the intellectual and emotive spheres and then he says understanding i have the prati the specific differences distinctions within the spheros and the spheres within each element you know we say during the 49 days between pesach and chavour as that's an example of what hillary that's an example of details within the spheros yes hilo is there a um is there somewhere in the superhubbard that maps across the uh spheros to the there is a mimer that the rebbe said in 1951 i believe pasha's mr it begins with those words it's printed there there the rabbit gives an example of of what of what you're asking about for the sphere of hasset he gives an example of the nine within cresset then there is a book a very important book to read it's called ten keys to understanding i've mentioned it to you over the years it it's from rabbi mattis cantor and he does a phenomenal book somewhere yeah well take that book out it's a phenomenal book and he'll and i know you would appreciate it tremendously especially especially especially now that you have so much more knowledge you you'll be faster and finally rabbi simon jacobson um has a uh a kind of a guide for the 49 days where he also explains the four so i would say those are three good sources is that you're looking for something that's you know very good that's uh pretty more comprehensive than that one uh more comprehensive more comprehensive than jacob says you mean yeah right yeah it's nice you know this is an emotional this is something to think about today i'm i'm looking for uh you know uh how do we how do we sort of create a map of the psyche uh alpi cabala for that i would probably go to rabbi yitzhak ginsburg's work i would i would think that he's done that already are you familiar with you have his his books rabbit ginsburg i have some but no i'm not so why why don't you you know write to someone uh there probably is an email on his website galainai and i i'm i i i'm sure that he has already tackled that you know if you're looking for more of a kabbalistic and thing like it with the spheros and and i would do that so do that okay generally speaking we can divide the spheros in heaven the godless emanations in two categories machiafem opnemium encompassing the word machiaf or plural makifum opnimium from the word penemius shame shloesha sugim kailulim they include three categories makifim they are kessler example is the makif it surrounds it encompasses there's no one specific place which you could call it's a boat but it's throughout the entire person then you have moist which is panemias because michigan is in the brain and the emotions are in the heart well the whole and in each of these categories each emanation within this these categories are different than the other emanations let's say he says for example take the emanations of wisdom understanding in what category do we put them in in the category called miken compared to das is different than than each other but it's in its very essence in other words moshe what is it is creativity yay listen what is bina development and analysis and hilar what is da focus and concentration so overall we put them into one category the intellect but when you start looking at them each one is so different than the other one right you see there's a person who's a creative person and there's another person who is an analytical person try having the analyst create they fail try having the crea the creative mind sit calmly and analyze he has as we the expression goes ants in his pants he can't sit still but he's a genius in creating an idea he comes up with the best ideas but to sit still he can't mattis cantor i love the example that he gives in this book it stuck in my mind i read it years ago the difference between a tree that's rooted in the earth barring a hurricane a storm that we had here it stays in its place it's there day in day out you can count on it the tree is there what about the soaring bird who flies high low over water over ground it's very thrilling it's very exciting but you can't count on it because you can get wiped away knocked down and goodbye good luck so creativity is like the soaring bird analysis is like the root of tree is there a difference between the two absolutely nevertheless are they both part of the intellectual process yes but one person is a strong and another person is stronger than beena and and it's very important to know this especially if you're an employer just as an example and you're hiring someone and you need a the creative mind to come up with a certain program a certain app you're not going to ask the the analyst because the analyst cannot come up with that idea that's not the way he or she thinks what they're good about is sitting and taking the idea and developing it and then you have a third element to the mind das tas is neither creativity or analysis das is focused on concentration and it's a rare i would say it's more rare to find a person with us think of people you know and you'll see you know more people that are i would say the most type of people we usually know and interact with are bina people at analysts analysis people that are really creative really creative is is like once in a generation you know i'm not talking about people who mimic other people and who have a good tongue and a good mouth and they're able to chew reach to chew someone else's creativity and to spit it out in their own words now we have plenty of people but someone who is an original thinker a few if you have a few original thinkers it's in every field of of intellect in the world we experienced there's one einstein there was one of your khan okay yeah one rabbi salavaitchik these are very exclusive individuals because they represent creativity now some are also gifted where they have other aspects binandas das at least for the average person i think is is the is the most rare because das means the person who is so thoughtful so focused and concentrated that when he when you present a problem to a person who's strong and does and that's the type of person you should be looking for when you're looking for advice they they not only understand the information they they've processed it and they've processed it in a healthy way they concentrated on a focused on it and include who the person is asking what the situation is and what the expected reality is all of that is is part of a das experience and that's rare i know that ebba when people came to him that needed advice for certain things and he suggested one or two people who he said go speak to them you know in addition to giving his bracha but if you needed something practical i heard that he suggested and one of those people who who i knew about was besides a massive talmud was simply a very smart person meaning very sharp and understood a situation so that's an that's an element of dots yes i'm just wondering if you or anyone else in the babura uh can he can help me to sort of reconstruct the memory before i before i made aliyah there was a an israeli company that had a um an online personality test based on kabbalah that was recruiting therapists and uh i had uh some interviews with them and and then the company kind of disappeared like nothing ever happened with it but but the test that they had was all color was all um color configurations uh you know i i remember taking it and i don't remember exactly what the results were but it was all different colors and they they were correlated to the spheros in some way that you get that that was that ended up being some kind of an algorithm for for for telling characteristic personality has anybody heard of something like this um that okay i can't remember the name of the company it was just fascinating i don't know who the who the people behind it were i don't know if they were genuine it's i i i don't know but it sounds fascinating it does it uh yeah you know i have a book here i happen to have it right here that i believe it's just i have that book and in fact it just friends with the author yeah yeah because because he talks about here the colors of the spheros right i know there there is definitely a whole tradition in kabbalah of the colors of the spheros this was this was um a uh a whole a different sort of added dimension related to that that i that was new to me and i i would and i was just trying to reconstruct it as we were talking about this yeah i also know jakob david schulman in fact he re he he edited one of my books years ago the book i wrote on rabbi david brin oliver show them was a shliyaki in my in florida um yes so yes you're innocent that we say on our seventh anniversary the detailed explanation over there what the smiles are and giving uh another detail below so they give very interesting points so maybe you know could mean that there's some kind of writing yeah familiar with that specifically what i'm specifically interested in what was behind my question was the overlap between that and the tencopos that the balatonia talks about we tend to talk about the cocos on epic in rather general or vague terms but uh how do how they map to the sphero since in more detail what just is was sort of behind my question okay i'll be happy to sit down and talk to you about that here okay that that's it look forward to that okay so you guys that make a time when you could talk and that would be great about it anyways have a great day make the best of the day and we'll see everyone tomorrow good good talking good learning bye