Chai Elul Farbrengen - What did Rebbe mean Talu b'Hergesh re saying Tachnun today? Davening w Kavana

wasn't one that you know was into customs you know the the way it was in europe and the other places this wasn't important so for example even you know my own uh grandparents you asked them when you were born they said i don't know what what do you mean you don't know when your birthday is i don't know you know why they didn't know because no one ever told them and why didn't anyone ever tell them because it wasn't important so they never made an issue of it so their parents didn't remember in a way when they were born i'm not saying everyone but that was a standard but but we do find by the prophet should obey him but they did keep track of the birthdays for example of the rebels and their family but it wasn't a public issue in other words because this is my own understanding you know because the culture wasn't such that that made an issue out of birthdays etc so that obey him although privately between their family they did they didn't publicize it because it would be kind of a smack in the face and a deviant what the what the what the jewish communities were and hasidic communities and were used to and and i'll just give you an example i i told you this once i'm just gonna when i was a 15 or so so i didn't know leah for my birthday because the there ever writes that the sharpest before you you're my letters you should take an aliyah i was in borough parks i went to my grandfather's the show that he divined in and thereof there was a talmud he was a survivor i think and he and he um from from hungary or that read that region and i went over to him and i said uh well may i have an aliyah it was a time you know time no one looks and who's getting the alley or not it's like you know insignificant to compare it to chakras shoppers and with a straight face he looked at me he said absolutely not that's available that's idolatry and i i like turned colors and i said what it's idolatry and he quoted me and avoided zara quoted me he was a massive town with kokum and right away he quoted me of gomorrah you know what do i know all i know is that the sense embarrassed me and i didn't get an aliyah so i um so what do we see that and and he was a friend of chabad and he was a friend of the river they used to correspond and he put out a torah journal and he would put in uh monthly comments and tell and teachings of the rebel but nevertheless there there was his standard you know of yiddish kite and tradition so this i'm just showing you how you could talk about now in the 70s as late as the 70s i had a personal experience where it was frowned upon to celebrate a birthday but that ever felt it's important to to document these things in hyderabad and such and other such things so he does document that on high yellow it's the birthday of the belgentive and the alcohol which by the way was not known until like in 1933 or 1936 when the previous rebbe shared it at fabregan and before that khabad khasid did not know that and no one celebrated high elo and that time related what his father told him in 1893. in 1893 defeated keraba was only 13 years old and his father called his mulamid that nissan scope law and he said to him would you mind if my son um comes late a little late to yeshiva to hate her needs permission from the malamad to excuse the sun i think there's a lot to be said about that think about it you know okay and she says fine and then the free the rabbit shop tells the future the day before he says i want you tomorrow to go to the mikveh in those days they didn't go every day to the mikveh i want you to go to get up early very early to go to the mikveh and then come to my room then come to see me okay and to dress in in yumped of clothing so go to the mix get up early go to the mikvah um dress in clothes in youngtif clothing and come to see me i said the the son that if the cabbage does of course when his father asks him and when he comes into his room he says good job today is our yomtif karabakh doesn't know what his father is talking about and then he tells him today is the day high hello when the balshamp and altera were born on wednesday that it says in braces right the the luminaries were hung right referring to the the sun the moon and all that so uh today one second hillel today the two maida is the baal shemptov the great balshemptiv and the altar were born today yes he will uh there are both for on wednesdays um yes i believe so yes okay yes i mean that could be checked in a calendar but i think i believe so anyway so that was the first time that the friday could ever heard from his father that high elo was a special day the friday for whatever reason did not share that until 1933 or 36 you're talking about 40 or so years later why don't ask me why but that's the facts and that's what he shared and that's when it became known and you understand that that wasn't accepted it wasn't accepted easily by other hasidic uh hasidim acidic groups you know like uh just because you say so we have to accept it and until today until today in borrow park i'm sure it's this way but shemesh and you know uh a lot of people don't accept it you know so those that kind of believe that the freedom could have been communicated from the shop and that are sharp from his father back to the altar ever you know and have respect for that you know those they'll you know they're fine with it but the only ones i'm the only but amongst the only ones that celebrate this day especially is khabad are there um are there alternatives proposed for the ball no not that not that i know of maybe maybe uh israel can ask is rebbe but i i don't believe so and that's you know or and you hillary could ask the you're rubbing too i mean to say that would be a question that i you know like okay you have a better they were born well when were they born what's your great tradition see chabad the babbage is very it has a tradition i told you this has a very strong tradition with details with details and that's what i'm getting at so what i'm getting at is that the fact that some don't say today like in the show that i just came from the chabad house it doesn't say it or not what happened rabbi zeliksen when he was preparing his notes on how you and gilliam asked the rep about saying today and the rebbe answered something very unusual and uh you know for him and for us and the rebels said totally behegesh it depends on your feeling i mean that is such a non-chabad answer it's like if i wake up with a stomachache this morning i'll decide this way and if i wake up with a in a good mood i'll decide this way i mean come on what's going on but that's what the rabbit told it now how we are to understand this interpreters there's no one answer to that every rabbi and teacher of khabad probably has their way of understanding it but one thing's for sure that that ebba's words you know made us think and rethink about the importance of the day because whether you say taco you don't it really is significant that that ever in other words i would have expected there about to say like why are you asking ridiculous questions or kind of you know no if if if tackling should not be said might i would have heard it to my father-in-law this is the way and i would have documented it i didn't hear it to my father-in-law he did say that the story that my father that shop said could jump to him and dress and shop his clothes but it didn't say you don't say he didn't say that so this was a very very big revelation an interesting answer and since then until today including today uh hasidim um act upon their hergish whether to say that or not what i'm seeing is in different schools that have been at in this day that most of the rabbis inhabat houses i shouldn't say most many you know they don't say tachno um i'm not saying that's right i'm not saying that's wrong um i'm just telling you a fact i think the more serious tell me the hakamim probably avoid saying anything i i imagine like a rabbit label shapiro who's a you know a massive town with hook i'm in miami and on 41st street over there and he has a answer the baby show i would doubt i i'm going to try to find out later i would doubt that he tells the cousin to say not say because when the rabbit says totally beheagus that means it's up to you and i was thinking about it today that's another thing i want to say one thing for sure is from the rebels answer it points to you got to take this seriously this isn't a joke this isn't just i decide i decide who are you to decide what did you do today for high yellow what is that what does it say that if you feel a symbol on a certain day and the symbol is so great it exempts you from tackling and and and and of course so it's been taken you know to you know the some galaxian polish hungarian never say that what's it called at minha say the reason is yeah no like a lot of places like fry if they do early on right like on friday sorry who does taco no no no no no no friday everyone agrees you don't say after midday that's halal from friday is not araya on a wednesday thursday during the week and so they don't say talk to them because um for whatever reason some say it's because they dive in late that some say no it's it's it's it's because there's a yard site and then whatever the point is it's whatever it's become like uh accepted khabar doesn't do that by the way chernobyl doesn't do that either in square for example i i dove in there for years during the week they always said except the yard side of their rabbit the uh the square rebound base nissan and uh maybe another another day or two so it's not that all hasita but many hasita dallas the yummy ones are you guys not seeing me because it says your internet connection is unstable is it better now yeah i see you okay good okay [Music] okay i'll continue talking because um i don't know why it's freezing but we'll con okay so the point the point is that the totally behaviorish like like everything else after years it becomes routine routine i kept i'm looking around you know like how many people learn hasidis just a little hasidis today in the morning so that they have some feeling for the balcenter you understand that we've become so like oh no one's just talking you don't say that so it has to be a uh uh you so you wanted to say something i was just going to say that the minute boston and it's brought down in the center is tadavan late towards shina and not seitafn but they don't even put tafflin in the in the city uh that's a new level okay i i that's a new one for me i never do that they'll even print it there whatever listen everyone to their minute but i i have to talk the way you know it's in halakhah and the way the way i understand it from anyway the bottom line is that high elo is a special day whether you say or you don't say depending on if you feel elated that it's the belcentive and the altarebus lettuce meaning what does that mean that means that you say yourself i am so lucky to be a hostage i am so happy to be a husset i am so happy to learn fasidas now if you could say that and feel that i i don't mean you know heart palpitations that we're talking about you know medishivalev but even up here you know you appreciate it i can hear you you know today not saying but if it's just uh you know just another day then whatever okay but what what do i want to talk more about is what did the akaddish the holy balshemptev and the altar bring to the to the jewish world to the to the yiddish world what was the world missing so we learned in the countries uh and jews were devastated physically they were purged and killed the pogroms and spiritually there was the false messiahs of shaktix via and the paints frank and there was a lot of reason to question and doubt the authenticity of judaism of tata and baal shem tov saw a tremendous tremendous depression in the community so he came along and he brought to the community a new way um of a new way of appreciating tater and that is to see the deeper aspect of tata which means the summer the soul within every one and everything and that was not an analysis that the world the orthodox world the fruit world the torah world was was focusing on you focus on what the halakhah says what the gemara says and you do what you're supposed to and this initially you know when he came when he came up with this idea was very frightening to the established jewish community and he shunned him to the point where the going of vilna put a uh an excommunication on hasidim and uh which you're aware of and then there was a reason for it because the the carlina see them they were acting they wanted to uh show that intellect is not where it's at and that a jew who is simple who can just barely read the the the sitter is just as holy as the great talmudist and this was a kind of uh it was very a big departure from the way it was so um they would make somersaults in the street and they would go into a store that sold the candy and cookies and food items when they said you have a pound of nails i need nails to bang on my you know such you know they made themselves very silly they looked very silly and sounded silly and they did that specifically to bervato this concept that intellectus words acts they they what and this became very very uh argumentative and to the point where it came to the evil nagoyan's ears and he said it's time to um you know to excommunicate these the people who follow this derek um by the way the alternate is 1770 correct so the the the those hasidim from the year tough kuflamid is nish king talk you take the letters tough kuflamid and you reverse the letters you get the word tok token word which means it's not where it's at is king in other words this is not the way to get your message across but the damage was done and uh the guardian uh issued the the excommunication and of course of course it caused an uproar and then the market of mesrich with his tell me them including the balatanya deltarebba each of them saw ways of repairing the damage okay and to show uh the uh the literature world it was not the show world at the time that this is within the pale of judaism but you know when damage is done you know it's easy to mess up it's very hard to correct and fix you can mess up in a moment and to correct it could take years so the the cat was out of the bag the damage was done and um the going issued his excommunication and now you have to prove that it's not that way and i say this because the rebber however made a point i'm thinking about naming a future book no mormon snack but i think it just will be too controversial maybe but anyway that ever said many times at the fabric and i heard it myself today they're no more misnomer he didn't say there's no malik fox he said there's no one to stop them why because i'm stuck at me as an opponent why do you oppose because you're concerned what was the reason i just said that this will this this this is heresy it's another cult like the shopkins sweet news that ever says 200 years have passed the proof is the pudding show me show me you know where most hasita became heretics they didn't they would remain they were from eden on the contrary the biggest years shamayims so the reason for your concern is not founded and we know a rule bottle has if the cause is annulled the result is annulled so the cause for the fear was because you might have become heretics and the proof is that it didn't happen so therefore that ever said the concept of his snug dude miss you know in recent years uh said this is a very similar thing about learning tanakh he said that it once about a time there were muskeeland they knew better than better than a lot of uh yeah he says but there's nobody like that today and they instituted a tanaki homie as a result excellent thank you very very that's that's very true oh yeah and and the same we find with different things over the years that traders isro they stopped learning ferris's role why because he writes on the six days of creation he interprets it that you know that the dinosaurs uh is things that uh are smell of evolution certain parts of evolution which are contrary to tata and therefore he became ousted right now you know many eden didn't accept that but there were communities that that stopped learning ferris israel because of that so but now we see that that that's not the case and that there's certain kosher elements of evolution of certain non-kosher elements and the pastas what he meant was those kosher elements but anyway so when the altar ebbed when the altar ever had a choice he he said like this he said you know i i i know how to learn a little bit altogether was called a lit he came from lithuania it was called the lit and people don't know this the altar ever wasn't just called the lit he also didn't appreciate ignoramuses and he and he and he wasn't aware of the belshampton's teachings at that time and they said that he he said he wants to go somewhere because they sat there look you can go to vilner to the going and learn by the going or you can go to ms rich to the market so he asked what's the difference this is toyota and the market will teach you how to down he says oh you know to learn i i know i think i know a little bit how to learn he was going down today about 16 he wrote you know he know how to learn so i'll get more more tighter from the guy but i pray but fela i don't know how to doubt him properly what does it mean to darwin i know the words and i know the interpretation of the words of translation so he goes to the market he goes to the market and he sees they're talking about kavanaugh's of the arizal and spend a lot of time on it so after a few days dr ebba says this is not for me i cannot i will not give away my learning of talmud of all that to spend all day the all the many hours in in in in in learning the cavanaugh's and and and davening with heart and okay so he left and he reminded he reminded himself in the middle of it to as he was going out that he forgot his scarf it's cold by the muggy went back to get a scarf when he went back he overheard the bhagat answering a very complicated shiloh in halal and he said oh the mag is a talmud too not only a hasidis rebel oh i'm gonna stay and he stayed for three years and he became a husset so this story that's recorded in chabad messiah tradition points to the importance especially now it's 12 days to the rosh hashanah the importance of tfilo of davenink and dabaline doesn't just mean saying words you know yes during the week we're rushed but shabbos yamtif is more time come earlier to school you can stay later to really get into your davening and when you allow yourself to get into it and you have to block out everything when you dive you'll feel really i've used this word i like the word a catharsis you feel really relieved of pain of issues of stuff at least during the time of davenink so we need to learn how to die and i think that we've been learning five plus years now this is my mother with the previous rebel we have a lot of food for thought had it david and these my muram especially at my monastery and all the asia katana that i mentioned the other day which we learned you know there's the krishna and there's a and there's chakras and there's minha and myravan explains the different ideas spiritually of what all those things are and you take that and you dabble with it especially you know these 12 days and then the iranian people we have uh this issue that we have to catch up to the chasm who says who says you have to catch up to the cousin well you say israel said the other day well if you don't damage monastery with dominion you didn't daven know which is better to doubt and not know what you're saying and not feel anything or to die and slow and dominate you having meaning and then you darven and if you want to do both come an hour before no problem if you're so holy and and and you want to double with dominion which is important trust me no problem get up earlier come earlier an hour but don't don't give away your davenink your davening is and uh let's say moisture is agape and he has to right so it's very hard on you you know yeah you know it's as i got by and sure you have to be with the people i understand so you try to come earlier and sometimes maybe you die and after yeah it also happens now of course keeping this month feel i'm not not i'm not suggesting breaking halacha what i'm saying is it has to begin with the focal point that the davening is is is the icar because when you dove and especially if you don't with chabad meditation but even if not that that feel according to baal shemptov and siddhis is an eaker okay so for one hostage it's a little shaking more for the carolina it's raising their voice more for the chabaddix it's using more than maya and that being was being in those are the nuances of darkening but the overall thing is the importance of davening and i think we could all we all know that this is uh a mainstay in hasidis now i i i want to make it clear because it's important that people don't have the wrong idea that the the i've seen many literature people darving with great kavanaugh i'm not dismissing that you know but hasidim it's it's it's much more than just happening with kavanaugh and and and and dominion it's it's spending time extra time of of trilla you know it used to be i heard from in email one second i heard from um from carlina i think brussels that the old brass level has him they would spend hours in darwining now they used ram nachman rebnosom's approach but they were engaged at length you know so this isn't just unique the chabad the you know people used to want to see uh the baba chidavan to three four o'clock they would go into the yeshiva in or in in tara semester yerushalayim and you can come in three four day after three o'clock in the afternoon two three in the afternoon and still see bakr and davenink because they were they were engaged in this activity that's true but but but but uh i heard clearly i think it was a new mama spear moisture webber uh my chiver had a i think he had a brother who was not libba it's not khabad and i heard from the people over there in may ashoram that he was a big guy with hashem this wasn't you know this wasn't only you know in the world of chabad yes moshe i was just going to say that we've talked about this before i can never never stop getting over that you know if if i'm able to you know get into make fun and then that's it to learn how to say this before the happening i'm talking about shabbos yeah and then have a nice day and then have a nice day and then the for brian afterwards like a good honest down to earth for brethren there's nothing it feels doesn't compare doesn't compare to not learning before daphne it's very for me personally we spoke about being a god but it's very challenging very very challenging but there's there's and it's funny because the fabregas i feel it's such a key component and i see it now more and more people need it's almost like it's like a combination debriefing and being able to take the energy that's generated from the fila in a sense and somehow to put it into to put it in terms of the the feel of what was obviously the david and so forth hopefully it goes up it goes up to chris but that for granted it's like an internalization of what's going on the energy in a sense like we are internalized right yes absolutely uh i wish you that uh that you'll be able to get up uh six o'clock in the morning or maybe earlier if need be because i personally find especially shabbos shabbos when i get up early and it's quiet it's like so you you know it's just it's gone i said i could sit between my table and my couch with difference for him and and and books and it's just i don't know it's something about the shabbos morning uh kedusha that that like and then it goes away you know once you start going to show it's it's it's a little it's different but everyone has their their moment everyone has their place but uh definitely to to make the fila special and not allow anything to disturb you during the thriller you know that's also today a big avoider for sure during the week when we have cell phones and this or that but even shabbos you know those that still have children or grandchildren you know of course they come over i always say i said this to my class over here don't be rude if someone comes over to say good shabbos if you could talk outside shabbas or not but but you know and if he wants to talk say you know get let talk to you later that's all right but do acknowledge them like a mensch you know and if you can't talk because of it then just you know smile and and acknowledge with your head in other words make the person feel that you recognize them and you really do so that you could go on what time is it [Music] okay so i just wanted to a little bit there's so much more we could bring about and talk about uh it's 12 days and now every day corresponds to a previous month beginning from tishree so today the 18th we have to think about what did we do last tishrei and do chuva for those things and so tomorrow it's hejven and the after it's kisliff and um it's it's uh this is not that difficult because you have one day think about one month [Laughter] so maybe we could find one issue per month that we we remember and uh we need to you know make better correct and make a resolve and that's something that is doable if we take some time out anyway tomorrow we'll continue learning we're learning the mai mahayana so we'll continue that tomorrow everyone have a great day and good job they've only improved