Belief in G-d sustaining world every moment, Divine Providence, miracles - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin

okay so we're holding page Z in pic B second chapter in in chapter one taught us a message based on a the in in Forever God your word stands firmly in the heaven and then he brought the the interpretation and explanation of the bmov that this um refers to the words of hashem's sayings Sor my morals 10 utterances that everything exists with the word of hasem and that it's a constant reality in all of material physical world that was the nuda the main point of chapter one now in chapter two the AL wants to prove this IDE idea logically okay in other words in chapter one he he bases it on a verse theill so if you're a Believer H you just believe what it says in but what if you're either not a Believer or you're someone who questions everything out the says no problem I'm going to prove it to you using logic that's chapter two okay let's clearn from here from from this idea of God being sustaining the world every moment Tru us and not just that he and not just that he did it once and he left the world and to run on its own this I'm giving you a logical explanation says it's a response Chas means it's a response how meaning to the Heretics to which Heretics to those that say that world the world today runs on its own yes God is the creator but once he created the world he took a vacation for 5,784 years we've been we've been coasting from the K that he put into the world 5,784 years ago says I'm going to give you guys meim you you Heretics who believe cuz it is heretical I'm going to give you a logical explanation and he says furthermore and I will share the root of your mistake and I think it's important these few words here to to realize how the AL deals with Heretics you know so many people dismiss them you're a heretic goodbye good luck get out of here you're nothing worth you know D says no you're a heretic but I'm going to I'm going to share with you a message that hopefully you no longer will be a heretic and I know that you are coming from a heretical place which is lodged in your brain in your logic because you came up with a thought that you think the world can exist without God's ongoing sustaining of the world and I will show you the root mistake in your thinking that's F fascinating the approach you see what I'm I'm I'm going I'm I'm not even getting yet to the to the to the meat and potato right I'm getting not just you see his attitude how he applies hisid his T his his his philosophical thought about hasem as a way to Elevate and to rewire the thinking of Heretics not dismissing him and say get out of here get out of here don't come in he says you're a heretic can we talk he says yeah okay listen to me let's go on in addition there are three things here Heretics these these Heretics iser have a problem with one I want you to write this down if you can or at least Lodge it in your mind the first thing is the existence of the world as we have it today they say the world runs on its own based on the energy God put into the world at the beginning of creation that's called Kum existence H now when you have that position it leads to another issue and that is they Kim they deny that's number two Divine Providence right to believe M to believe that this thing that happens now is Divine Providence you have to believe that God is here now not that God was here if you believe Hashem was here and he left us and the world's running on its own then you can argue what happens is not Divine Providence cuz he's not here so the whole idea of supervision of supervision to the belief in God's supervision is is inherently connected to the belief that God is in the world which means in the first thing so if they deny Point number one existence of the world as it exists that gods in the world today subsequently they deny Point number two which is point number three they also deny the the signs and miracles of T if you don't believe in surely you're not going to believe that what that a b and c when it happens it's a miracle why because again you don't believe God is in the world now so you don't believe that what happens now is Divine Providence so therefore you don't believe that what a miracle does occur it's a miracle it's all nature so here is a very important point that these are the three things that the AL is going to try to CH rewire the the thinking of the meim so that they start believing number one that God is in the world subsequently everything is and thirdly there is such a thing as Miracles and why is this also a fascinating point to why because this whole idea believing something is a miracle you have to believe that God is here you can't believe it's impossible believe something is a miracle if you don't believe God is here if you don't believe God is here then what do you mean he made a miracle nature is nature he created a world 5,784 years ago and it's coasting and the coasting consists of the Sun the moon the Earth and and and and the mountains and the stars and everything is just going fine and dandy a miracle means it changes nature it's the the the shattering of convention to believe in the shattering of convention you have to believe that there's a a maker a higher maker a god a Creator that's doing it now so now is going to continue talking about this idea let's see and he says these Heretics mistake with their false me false false fantasy who comp by them comparing hasem the acts of God who creates the Heaven and the Earth and they make the comparison to the human to the works of man and his and his tulos his um schemes and what do they say this is their argument for example when when when a Craftsman makes a vessel they say the vessel doesn't need the K doesn't need any longer the hands of The Craft Craftsman it was made because for even they argue when the the the hands of the Craftsman vacate leave the vessel and he goes on a stroll to the Market The Vessel remains in its imagery and it's form Mish the K that he made in his garage and he goes away and it's Oh Henry after 20 years he comes back 20 years later he opens the garage and he takes a look at the pottery that he made it's exactly the way it was what do they argue it's exactly the way it is in its image in its form as it came originally from the Craftsman so they argue these fools Al uses heavy language here these intellectual fools he's not making you know making fun hey you're a bad guy he's saying intellectually you're foolish so do these intellectual fools compare the act of he creating Heaven and Earth cuz heaven and earth is different and he going to explain soon how talk M talk means it's smeared Maris means their Vision their vision smeared a of their eyes their their intellectual eyes says the the great difference between man's act and and the schemes of man means taking one ex material one yes one existing material and changing its format to another yes to another existing format but you didn't take a nothing an and make of it a yes it's called yes look further you take the one material you change its form and its image next page page 154 from it being a piece of silver to become um to sorry stop stop there you're taking a piece of silver you are forming it and you're making a silver man or a silver be or whatever else you're doing so what have you done you've only changed m comp however comparing it which The Act of Creation Of Heaven and Earth is something from nothing we didn't have a and's pre-creation and we'll stop here tomorrow we'll continue with another mus but just to clarify this the and that is that the idea of yes me yes and yes me is no comparison so you you uh mean you Heretics you are you're saying that Hashem is no longer here why because you're basing it just on as an example like like the the Craftsman who makes a k and he goes away and exists on his own he says the problem is you're making a your thinking is wrong rudimentary and fundamentally why because the creation is yes and not yesh that's the the first explanation why their logic is intellectually wrong if you had to sum it up in two words right so you would say it that the AL counterargument to the Heretics is your argument is correct if the world was yes yes but since the world is yes ex something something from nothing therefore the comparison is wrong yes my hello I'm sorry I think I I think H Hill was waiting first okay Hill for me and also he's a little older yeah but but but uh but we go by beard length in this year the uh I want to I want to just ask I remember reading learning a medish on uh commenting on the different names of of man uh Adam is and Enos and I think there are four I don't or five four four the fourth one fourth one is g g fourth one is g go ahead okay so I just wonder if you comment on uh the sort of the implications of him choosing MOS as the description of man in this in this chapter um it's a good point and you really hit on something but it's not relevant openly now so let me um let me get to it another time I believe you hit my Rec my memory I believe kasus does address that so I do want to respond I have seen things and I don't remember right right so let let but let me get let me get a chance to you know give me a week hopefully I can get some to let you know and just one other related question if I'm remembering from the rambam correctly it was D en that began the generation of was yeah remembering that right yeah yes yes I believe so the rambam yeah MOA okay I I just want to ask real quick maybe we can talk about this tomorrow when we talk about answering a heretic today the types of people that Al had to answer then and what was happening in the Jewish World particular the ashkanazi world in Europe Etc the massive upheaval of the 19th century meaning the 1800s early 20th century Etc today it seems that the people like the definition of a heretic I I I ask often myself how many people really would fall into that category today as opposed to people who are being really even though they're positing ideas that are very foreign to yish K probably most of those people fall in the category ofish right so I'm I'm asking saying they don't make them like they used to well look I think if we were to ask the question are there still people that don't believe in God what would you what would you say Misha I so I I I I deal with that you know it comes up a lot it comes up very family members not family members but people connected to family right right okay and what's the answer what's the answer I I I I think it's that's I don't think it's so much that people don't okay yes they don't believe I don't believe in the same God you don't believe in okay that's thank you thank you and that's and that's the minim of today yes okay fine yep that's the meaning no one one second just one more second I'll let you those are the Heretics of today meaning to say Thea the the the the underlying issue is is a belief in in in a God that's real today in our lives and I'm telling you not only for hardcore Heretics which maybe are out the window like you say maybe today the Heretics are more in the F world oh okay that also okay you know when October 7th came and you're telling me that from people didn't say hey Hashem what's going on here I believe plenty from people said that it doesn't mean they threw way they're thrilling and the yamak but and that's what the AL is intering here too so so when you say mha yes I you know I understand where you're coming from what you're saying so I would say those type of Heretics are are maybe not as much although there are plenty of people who don't believe in God and that's why they just do what they want but I if I may R if you were to ask people their definition of God they like I don't believe God so do you believe that there's a force in the world and if you start using other terminology that is not so um uh in your face in your face in your face right right same qu it's the same question Who Wants to be more religious nobody's going to raise their hand who wants to be more spiritual oh everyone rais everybody wants to be spir it's really we have a disconnect in language that people the concept of God sitting on a throne an old man with the beard who's there to punish and you know this is this is what people grew up with and they threw it away because it's nonsense and they haven't replaced it with anything more sophisticated right y Yi what did you want to say y you wanted to say something I just been bringing this up because of OSHA's point but listen today it's not as prevalent as let's say 30 years ago 40 years ago and I grew up you know with the reform movement and the conservative movement but I had friends that were conservative reform because they grew up in sheep said Bay and and my next door neighbors were form and concertive and the difference when I would speak to them and and I wouldn't even debate them but I just would want to know what the difference is between an orthodox sha and reform conservative was exactly what the rebba says today because what we learned today Tanya about how having is the difference we're talking about a different kind of heresy we're talking about oh yeah I believe in AEM but I don't believe that he's you know he's in charge of every day-to-day you know actions everyday things we are reformed we say I don't know I don't really believe in anything you know it's like the reconstructionists they don't believe in God they don't really have a gun in in their agenda it's all well Jewish so we we we're tradition and reform you know they maybe today it's a little different but I think the conservative the reform today which today is you know it's merged because there's no there's no customers but I think that that's what the rabbi's touching on the Rab's touching on the difference between the two the restruct sorry reform and the conservative I I appreciate everyone's comments uh but I'll say it again when I said to M that is that I am not concerned today about the MIM or what Yi you know I I'm more concerned about our own belief in God our own communities and there's a lot a lot a lot there trust me so many of the young people that are rebelling that are leaving this is an ior for them that they haven't yet explored or understand or disagree with okay because if if you come to understand these three it's impossible not to be a impossible you have to reject these three things or one of the three and most importantly the first one so when you say yeah God's and said is exactly it if if if you don't believe that everything's can do what I want I can do what I want less D for Less dying there's no there's no judgment there's no judge just do whatever you want have a have a have a field day and this is seeping into us in in our communities everyone chooses and picks and does what they want it's it's it's a free- for- all and it's not a freefor all so you know you when we talk about D you know which inab we don't you know use that but the the lit world use we about going to a r or going to a re or going to a mashia or going to a rabbi and listening and listening and and not jumping from one to the other I'll play games I'll take this coola and that cooler it's all part of this chapter if you believe that a a r that when it gives you aak is Hashem talking to you you won't you you won't you listen and that's it and whether the result is this way that way you you do it but but if you don't have that then then you just start picking and choosing and what does say that's when because the am is the am is not internalized so yes the language of the AL sounds and IT addresses you know hardcore Heretics which he needs to but if you if you as this is said if you start thinking about it it it it's it's it's it's it it's much more expansive to to everyone in their situation and it's very relevant today and that's why I would say is one of the reasons the Reb said that this CH that when you teach go that you're allowed to teach non compared to the first section of Tanya because they're not allowed to learn to become a g a g you're not allowed to learn why you allow to learn sh is one of the seven principles of faith in one God proving faith and and if you think about it as far as that's concerned God being here is relevant to everyone not just to a Jew puts on filling who has 63 Mitzvah and se but every single human being great talking we'll continue tomorrow M have a great day Z again Ma and wonderful seeing everyone thank you bye bye byebye