Basi Legani 1951, #5, chptr 7- Is shtus d'kedusha psychosis? Holy Abnormalcy is needed- RC Dalfin

So we're learning the bosani of the rebba the first mimer tiny yodal which is the foundational mimer of the rebba's approach to yiddeshkite in in this time uh this time I mean from his 1951 on 1950 51 on and what he learn what we learned in chapter 6 was a very interesting idea that the fidba and his mimer that this mimemer is based on and analyzes he says towards the end of the mime. That's why the the in the in the Mishkan the boards were made of a shittim of cedar wood and shittim comes from the word folly silliness because the idea was to transform the folly and silliness of the world the v the um the mishkan that when a ye comes to the mishka and it brings a carbon and dabbins and everything else makes a spiritual life a holy life. If he's the mishk it elevates the of the negative side and how through the he brings the gur where the the rabbi dance silly like a silly person at the wedding because of the simp. So we see not only did he transform the through a normal approach but also through a a way that's called above and beyond over the top. And then he went on to say that um that when they demanded things of and of those that are connected like those that are associated with them they themselves what they preach they did and he gave an example of that's the that was this is basically very a synopsis of chapter six now chapter seven let's learn inside through subjugation and transformation of of of converting what we fulfill the purpose of creation. As we said throughout the mimer, the purpose of the creation is what? to make a home and a boat for Hashem on earth here below. And this is the way and this is why Hashem says, "I've returned to my garden." Now the adds that the return of Hashem now is greater than Hashem was here originally prein. You hear that? Someone who destroys a building for the purpose of rebuilding it better. Surely the new building has to be much greater, much bigger, much better than the first building that was there that was just destroyed. So using this as an analogy, you have to say that through the subjugation of the folly and the transformation of the folly on earth, the home that we make for Hashem now post sin is greater THAN THE HOME WE made for Hashem prein. That's the comparison between the mushul. The analogy of the bin that's destroyed and rebuilt and the and and our avoid post compared to pre sin. And as and the says as explained in my father was my through subjugating the negative side negative force we reveal the preciousness the dearness the most special part of God throughout all worlds which you didn't have before what do You reveal now a type of energy is THAT'S EQUAL THROUGHOUT COOLING all worlds. Before the sin when Hashem was here before he was chased away there were differences in level this at this and this at this. NOW SOMEHOW through the you bring down what's called which is a higher gill a greater revelation. Now the is going to analyze the term that the previous uses. What does he say there? You draw down now an energy that surrounds all worlds. Nevertheless, the says you cannot say that this means that we draw down now through making a home for Hashem is an energy of Hashem that is within the realm of the world. just that it's encompasses them rather this is wrong rather the the meaning is that you draw down an energy that transcends the world you hear the difference there is and there is atmos right we've discussed this many there's the pervading light energy there's the encompassing energy And there's the essential experience. So in the mimemer the implication is when you draw when you say you draw down of the implication is you're drawing down an energy that's equal but it's equal col in all worlds. In other words, IT'S STILL GUIDED BY THE EXPERIENCE OF THE WORLD. So the Reb says that's wrong. That's not what he means. He uses those words. What we what it means is he's going to draw down the essential light. The light that's be that transcends let's use the word transcends the transcendental energy of Hashem which is greater than and even that's what he says here says that's why my father-in-law chooses the word. It's it's a quote from Z but he uses it in this contextalic literally means to to remove. So if we're talking about drawing down accomplishing through through our aid the drawing down of godliness why he use the word stoalic says that specifically because of that and explains okay go- right in other words it's such a it's such a great energy that from our perspective FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IT'S not here it's THE TRUTH IT'S ALL HERE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IT'S NOT HERE BECAUSE IN OUR FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE EVERYTHING IS IN A BOX. Everything is has its condition. So, so if if that's the case then it's limited to the condition. But the but the truth is what he what what what we're learning is that the difference between the the post prein and post sin is that post sin THROUGH OUR WE DRAW DOWN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LIGHT. THE TRANSCENDENTAL LIGHT IS ALL HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN ENERGY THAT depends on us and the world's then there's a little more and a little less. SO YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S ALL HERE. IT'S HERE AS MUCH AS THE WORLD WANTS IT TO be here. BUT WHEN YOU SAY THE ENERGY BEGINS WITH HIM AND IS ALL HIM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. SO IF HE DECIDES HE WANTS IT TO BE HERE, WHICH HE did it because he says, "I LIKE YOUR AVOID. I WANT YOUR AVOID. I'M HERE WITH YOU." THAT'S THE MEANING of the is getting now to explain his his father-in-law's passing. Remember this is a year after he passed away. That's why he says the the the the passing on of Sadikim is called in the holy zar is stalus because the the stalus of the passing of a sadic is the greatest type of a revelation that the world can exper experiences. You you hear THAT isalic to understand this you have to really study well chapter 27 and 28 in which we did but over there he really goes into the details of this explanation we're not going to spend time on it now I said we're not going to spend time in it says sorry sorry rabbi dolphin I am going to spend time on it there are two letters that explain the concept of in the second of the two letters it's explained the concept he explains it using the um the the the ax the heer that was used the red for the kos for for giving someone from its ashes. The the the things that were made within the the the area, right? There's the the the there is different areas. There was different areas in the Mishka and the Mikdash. So if it was that area that's called it didn't have the power to refine things that are completely contaminated spiritually called you needed to you needed the potion coming from the ashes of the red heer that where was it made? It wasn't you you you didn't make that the the process was not made by the theim in the they HAD TO DO IT OUTSIDE OF THE C of a c of the of the of the right there's the there's the kesh and then there's right there's the outside the azor so it had to be done over there part of and he quotes the mishna the The hepher the red hepher that was made it's it it the process to use its its ashes and all in the potion it was made specifically outside if you weren't allowed to make that inside and the gar says the gum compares the passing of sadikim to the making of the ashes outside. One second. Now we don't have a a red heer because since we sinned, we transgressed. Hashem said, "Therefore, you are exiled from your land. Hashem says, I'm not going to leave you empty-handed. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO EXPERIENCE THE paradum the pur THE THE GREATEST PURIFICATION PROCESS even for clip GIMBLE CLIPUS HATE visav the passing of sadikim. WOW. THE PASSING OF SADIKIM IS analogous to the MAKING OF THE RED HEER POTION TO PURIFY SOMEONE SOMEONE FROM THE WORST SINS. THAT'S A PHENOMENAL CONCEPT. It says regarding the passing of we have two saying teachings of our sages. one it's equivalent the passing the death of to the BURNING OF THE HOLY temple what a statement WHEN A SADIC DIESE IT'S LIKE THE MIKDASH WAS burnt that's one number two harder worse is the removal of SADIKIM THE PASSING MORE THAN THE DESTRUCTION. The second statement of this of the is even a greater statement about the passing of Sadikim that it's even worse in a sense than the destruction of the temple of the B mikdash. So through the histoalus of the sadic we have the the revelation of of the pre the dearness the preciousness of God. What does mean in this case, excuse me, it means sorry all of the explained that kind of HERE SAYING WHAT I'M TEACHING YOU NOW DON'T THINK THAT I MADE IT UP. I have six rebas that say the same thing that the meaning of the word is talus of removal passing on which which means ascending upward god forbid and going away. Goodbye Charlie. THE REBA PASSES ON. THE SADIC PASSES ON. FORGOTTEN. NEXT. NO. The the meaning is he's found here below in a manner and in that we call exaltation. You hear that? This is like HE'S HERE. HE'S HERE. The saddak is here. By the way, this is for all sadik. This isn't just for the is explaining here the concept of what say that based on this that means that he's here somehow below but in an exalted way. And this is what is demanded of us. All of us of the seventh generation we are the seventh generation to the alterb. Now you understand when the rebb says that what does he mean the is only the sixth generation from the alterb. So obviously he means his generation too. That's what it says. He says the seventh generation from the alterba. If it meant only the previousever, it would be it would only be six, not seven. So he says this is what we what is demanded of all of us who are part of the seventh generation since the and we learned earlier in the mime that all sevens are most beloved. When the Reb said these next few lines, he cried bitterly. He was crying. He he choked up. He couldn't talk cuz it's like he's talking about himself cuz he's the seventh reb. The seventh reb, seventh generation. We didn't earn being the seventh generation. What did we do? We had WE FOR BREAKFAST. WHAT DID WE DO TO BE THE SEVENTH? WE WERE BORN INTO THE SEVENTH GENERATION. So we didn't earn it. And we MEANS EFFORT. WE WEREN'T DILIGENT THAT WE MADE and created the seventh generation. NO, BY OSMOSIS, BY JOINING KABAD, BY BEING BORN IN THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE'RE PART OF THE SEVENTH GENERATION. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY SHOULD WE get this great credit? Nevertheless, all sevens say are beloved. Look at the next line cuz this is the modus operand. This is the mission statement of our generation. If you want to know where the reb got his mission statement, it's right here. The activity, THE JOB OF THE SEVEN generation is to DRAW THE DIVINE PRESENCE BELOW. And he adds the words mamish in actuality. Not in a dream, a fantasy, a wish, but you have to work hard to draw the down to do what? To transform the silliness, the stupidity of the animal drive. Every person knows the foolishness that he is involved with. And every person knows that he has foolishness. Htos and every person knows the passion that he has of the of the animal drive and desires and lusts and and indulgences that come from the go animal drive and the says and maybe sometimes even worse. In other words, the the indulgence of the nefabas could be to eat a good kosher uh burger or like like we've said years ago the kdish where people run and fresh for the ch and the cookles with the coats and but it's kosher. It's kosher, right? It has a hexure. IT CAME FROM IT CAME FROM THE BAD AND THE BELLS ANDAMUR AND IT CAME FROM EVERY HEXURE YOU WANT. BUT MEANWHILE, YOU'RE FING LIKE AN ANIMAL. THAT'S ONE TYPE of indulgence. But the says where you indulge in things that are forbidden. So from all of this, we have to change all of this TO TO finess to to to a holiness expressed in has no you'll SAY for you your is different than mine. Maybe for someone to go out in the middle of a snowstorm in a blizzard and to go and help people WITH THEIR CARS and things. It's like you're going to get sick. You might get run over wants to help you. He has a need to help. Whatever. That's for one person. Another persona. I was reading yesterday an article that was in the Mishbah magazine. You might have seen it just this I guess this week. They discovered a new caver, new holy caver to go to in Freehold, New Jersey, 15 miles from Lakewood. Someone named Rabbi Klugman, I think. And he was a vagabound. He mamished the way it's described. If it's all true, which it seems it is, he was a vagabound. He was dirty, smelly, completely disheveled. Yet, when he Nebuch was killed um in the Pennsylvania station or something, he he got hurt and he was killed. They found him with a Tanya and a gamura. And then this writer R Brennan who used to be from became a Moscow came to America and somehow he he found him and he just latched on to him and he went to him in in Freehold and or Lakewood whatever I talking about 1912 1912 1914 talking about over 100 years ago this is a real story this isn't according to the what I read then with details because he and HE DID A FOUR-PART SERIES IN IN THE YIDDISH paper called their tug. And he when he and he comes to him originally, he says, "I I would like to speak to you." HE SAYS, "GET AWAY FROM ME. YOU YOU YOU GET YOU LOW LIFE. GET AWAY FROM ME." So he says, "Uh, I want to I want to talk to you. I want to help you. Maybe you need some food. I DON'T NEED ANYTHING. GO BACK TO NEW YORK CITY WHERE ALL YOU SINNERS LIVE. Leave me alone." Okay. And so a little while goes by and somehow he finds him in a shul sitting and learning and he goes over to him. He says, "I really want to talk to you. Would you let me talk to you?" And somehow he opens up. He says, "Okay, what do you want?" He says, "I I I want to know WHO ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU?" And he finds out that he came from Russia. Could be came from Kabad lineage. I think his wife was from Fiteps which was a Kabad enclave but again it doesn't say but that he WAS FOUND WITH A Tanya that that's part of the story with a when when he found him dead he had a Tanya with him and he had a Gomorrah with him that's a fact and uh he GOES ON TO SAY HOW he came to America with his two daughters he had seven children his his wife didn't come with him originally and his five kids and his two came and THEY LIVE IN MANHATTAN, but he he sees them twice a year and and and you know and they give him they want to give him money. He barely takes anything. He says, "I don't want any part of it. You're all indulgent and sinous. I don't" and he he says, "I'm going out and where are you living?" He was called in the forest. And he was called the MAN OF THE FOREST. THE vow the vow they call he calls him Brennan calls him THE VA THE FOREST man because HE DIDN'T KNOW HIS NAME. And this for a LONG TIME YOU WOULDN'T TELL him his name. You talk about the this idea over here of you know the and that's really like you want to you want to be holy you can be in a corner AND THERE WAS PLENTY of little in in in the Lower EAST SIDE ON HENRY Street and and then and then and then Hester Street and and Delansancy Street. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN OUT to freehold and to to freehold or lakewood at that time and hide in in a corner and live in a HE LIVED IN A FOREST pretty much. He lived in the forest only when he couldn't any longer. He needed some food and he needed that was too freezing. He came into a little steel. That's what it says. IT'S FASCINATING story and they just and now people are now running to his caver because they consider him now a sadic nister whatever you know. So when I just read this yesterday, so it's on my mind because it's like one of these stories you hear once every hundred years, you know, a hundred years. It took him NO ONE KNEW ABOUT THIS GUY FOR A HUNDRED YEARS. I MEAN, BRENNAN Brennan found out, but somehow the it didn't get out. And now you could see lakeers and I saw boys playing guitar there by the caver. two boys two t you know playing guitar and other say till another and other dancing other jak crying and it's YOU KNOW IT'S BECOMING LIKE UH you know you have to tell you all these PLACES PROBABLY THE BABASALI last week the babasali and meron you know you once once car >> YEAH KRISTIER ONCE ONCE UH the floodgates of the caver of of a person opens it's open to all but the point I'm making is that the Reb speaks about that's a man who goes and into a forest and le and lives in a forest and is a vagabound and then you find out that he's like a sadic or he's a person that can learn well and he dabbins and it's all in a secret cha So you know and this is only 100 IT'S NOT IN THE TIME THE BENT it's 100 years ago and I I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THERE ARE SUCH yen that we don't know about today I know someone here in Borough Park told me that he and a knowledgeable person >> I have plenty and they're on antiscychotics >> what you're describing to me sounds very familiar I don't know what he did to to be called a sadic other than he had a garam with them. But there are plenty of people who fit this description. >> You know, it's so funny because I told my wife the story yesterday and she said pretty much without saying it so bluntly. She she looked at me and she said that she she alluded to the same idea. Look, I I am not one to bet to you know and I and I didn't write I didn't write the story but but is we do have a concept in the Toyota of Sadi story lad vavnik we do have that concept you know so um you know if you're arguing that every single uh weirdo that seems weirdo is is is needs medicine I No, but how do you know how how do you know? I actually had this conversation at Shabus. How do you know who's a Na'vi >> and and who's a schizophrenic? >> You're right. You know, we don't have, >> you know, you know, >> but back in the day. >> Yeah. How could you tell the difference? >> How can you tell the difference? Only by knowing them. only you only the person if the person lives with them and he really you know checks them out and and hangs out and then he can know if he's if he if he's needs medicine or not or it's a muna one of the two and yes listen when I was there uh years ago with with the with the with the who was doing uh exorcisms and all of that he was accused by many like you said and then I went to see him. I spent 45 minutes in a conversation with him and I determined again who am I but based on my learning and and seeing great people you know starting with the rebba you know I determined that he's he is a real person he is because HE HAD BLE I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES TO YOU guys because he was so HUMBLE HE DIDN'T SAY I WAS THE ONE WHO TOOK OUT THE THE DUK you know he he he spoke about it and and I and I challenged him I was I I didn't let HIM IT WAS 25 MINUTES THAT I WENT FROM this way and that way and this way up and down and I sat with him and I saw that he was aay so that Hashem and it's BROUGHT AND IT'S BROUGHT DOWN and and and it's brought down in and that there is such a concept. So it could be that mismanem reveal something and it and it takes place and the same with the and the with the took out but they didn't do it the way the do it they did it through learning ding fasting whatever saying tim etc they did did it more in a conventional way and what about what the rebba did in 197 um7474 for his mother's 10th yard site with Miriam which you can hear the fab you don't have to trust me where he spoke about the second where the gum says the miriam basil was such a sinner nevertheless and that's why she in her whole she was a boshan was punished that they would get not from upon him they got stale upon him because of her transgression where she married a a Roman the Greek legionnaire you know and all that and the reb comes along wrong and says and but she banged her the gum said she banged her panel her sandal on the on the misbeak because she was walking around after the Romans destroyed the muk mikdash and all that and she said Lucas Lucas you know Hashem what are you doing to YOUR PEOPLE THE SAME PERSON WHO COMMITTED THE SIN AND WHAT happened that was the night of his mother's 10th yard site and what happens is that the rabbin after he was challenged by many people throughout the world how he could take a gamura which implies ne a negative experience and the spoke positive about it. So he answered THE QUESTION WITH A STORY OF THE ALTERBA AND the story of the alterba was that someone came to he says I'm possessed I'm I'm I'm right see being schizophrenia I'm I have a in me and alterba didn't dismiss him saw him and alterba said you have the of the two one of the two people that killed was about to say nva against the yeden who were sinning Right. And one guy got up. Two people got up and they stabbed him. They killed him. HE'S BURIED OVER THERE OUTSIDE OF YOU know in in the you know the the silwan area over there. Right. There's a I think so anyway. Right. So said YOU'RE A GILG FROM THAT person and as soon as told him that the duk flew out the person became normal. That's the story. Theba said it. I you know I wasn't there. So we felt that the Reb THAT NIGHT UNLEASHED THE SOUL OF Miriam Bazbila FROM HER 2,000YEAR gilgal dbuk for being a sinner. And that's WHY HE CHANGED THE SHOT AND THE GARRA FROM NEGATIVE TO POSITIVE TO RELEASE HER. Could anyone prove that to you? No. No one could prove it to you. But then he said that the question was asked and the story was told and he he made him. Yeah. So if you believe is on that level that he sees and he and you believe it and if not not so that's the answer it it's not you know and and and and this is just for another moment because this I'm glad you brought that up IS NOT NORMALITY THAT'S THE WHOLE idea otherwise it's kadusha a mitzvah is KADUSHA STUDIES KADUSHA WHAT DOES IT MEANS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS VERY SILLY, very excuse me, stupid, very ridiculous for like the says A TANA SHOULD COME TO A SIMA AND JUGGLE women on his hands to gamorra. That's what it says. It's the most unneous UN UNMODEST THING THAT COULD BE. AND THE GUM SAYS AND THEN THE GUM SAYS THAT AFTER HE PASSED AWAY THERE WAS A FIRE SEPARATING HIM FROM THE OTHER SAGES BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID. SO THE GUMAR IS SAYING THAT histo is good. You know I'm I'm sure there were people at THE TIME SAID WE SHOULD OSTRACIZE THIS TANA THE MOST UNSNEIOUS PERSON THAT CAN BE. And and we'll leave IT AT THAT WITHOUT GRAPHICS. OKAY? Everyone can imagine, you know, THE ACCUSATIONS OF THIS TALENT DOING THIS IN PUBLIC AT A WEDDING. JUST let your mind THINK FOR ONE SECOND AND YOU'LL have a picture right there. Right? And the Gumar says just the opposite. And the Gumar says that that the the the fire separated him from everyone else. There's a concept of so why can't it be is that this ye who was in the forest he knew that he can live in Manhattan HE HAD TWO DAUGHTERS of Manhattan but he he decided that you know the people are just living with GASHMOS AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE ANY PART OF IT SO HE GOES TO AN extreme it's takish I'm I I don't know if he's a SADIC I'M NOT SAYING THAT but I'm saying the concept to me is a possibility that's Are there others that need medicine? Like you said, absolutely. You know, when I was in Marin County, there was a woman who married a non-Jew, and somehow um she became friendly, my wife and I, and she had I think schizophrenia. She she's had visions and and she and she came to talk to me quite a few times. And I I didn't dismiss her. I said at some point, let's write to the Reb because I felt that although it sounds cuckoo, it's like, you know, take some medicine and and and you'll calm down, which could seem like she did need. I did write to the Reb. I had a right to the Reb. The Reb answered her. The Reb didn't call her a cook and the Reb didn't dismiss it. The Reb said, "Study the live a life of mitzvah and Hashem will bless you that these things will go away." That's all. I don't know what happened. I lost touch. In fact, I'm still trying to see if she's alive and where she is. But you know there are there are experiences that do lead to a breakdown. So what I'm what I'm adding now is there is another point and I'm not a expert in this but it could be both are true. you need medicine and at the same time what triggered it triggered it is a very lofty experience that's beyond the kalin and you flip out there was there's a I'm not going to say who I'm not going to say where but I know who it is that when he was a student he had such a love for the reb that he wanted to kiss him and he once almost went over to him and the had to pull him back and they gave him some medicine. Now, if you if you knew what this is, you would say, "How could that be? Such a normal person." People sometimes, you know, they they go a little too much or they they get so enamored and and they and they lose themselves. They lose themselves. And yes, you need medicine. So what I'm saying is that it's a it's it's a it's a it's a hard call. It's a hard call and and we have we have this this is a this is a your the issue you mentioned opens up this whole idea of throughout our history not just maybe in particular but others also where they go over and they're coming from a good perspective. Wait a second. What do you need? The whole thing with the Benaro and Shmini, right? Uh the people from the 60s say that they took LSD. They took LSD and they wanted God. You know, just yesterday, just yet, two days ago, someone told him what what Zal Mashar did in the 60s with the LSD. He said someone else he says no who he knew I forget now who who had such an experience and he said he was learning a mimemer and he I think Bosani of the previous rebba and he never and he said when he took LSD the mimemer was to him not just clear understanding it but he saw the mimemer now I never took LSD so I don't know what that means right but but what I'm saying is that it could be a a certain substance removes the the blockages of the mind. And if you're in tune with a certain idea, it it could be that you have a an experience, but it doesn't mean that that's what Hashem wants and it's okay. Or let's talk about the Gammorilla that the Reb spoke about and explained. Ra, right? He he gets him drunk. He gets him drunk on Purim and he ends up wanting the and how you explain that. Okay, but I'm just saying that whole concept is like and the Reb, you know, spends so much time on not only the Reb for others but really put into a very nice explanation. He uplifted him to a higher level. WHAT ARE YOU UPLIFTING HIM? He's not at that level. The answer is is a concept of still I can't say more. I know it's hard for a western way of thinking to to identify with this. I I can understand that. But I'm sharing the what I learned in yeshiva what I heard from Eden you know. So I also felt like you before that before that dibb experience of 2001 when I interviewed Batri and actually spent an hour and 45 minutes with the woman who was possessed in demona I also felt it was you know impossible but then there's there's things that are possible and after my experience also with Mlu Fasi the babas's great nephew in demon as well um I'm sorry no the the the debuk lady was in Bereva where I met her. Sorry, it happened in Deona, but she then they moved to to get away. They moved to Beva. But uh with Mlu Lassri and I saw the way he did Cabala with myself and three other people, one from New Jersey, one from Maryland, and one from California. And u it was, you know, if you wanted to deny it, I couldn't deny it. Okay? So I'm not saying everything was exactly the way he said but plenty was. So there's something there this higher powers and higher realities. Theb ourb in his letters and people who shared with him these ideas he says be sincere be be normal. It it's not a contradiction. The norm the regular way is to but what we're learning is manis a person has to take THE HAS TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND BECAUSE THE NORM CAN'T break through I mean in a sense for someone to become about it's it's still no you'll say some stories some experiences are you know they were conservadox they were this bad they were normal. They they were well-dressed. They came FROM A WHOLESOME FAMILY AND THEY they made aware that there is a god. And my wife told me Rab Lipskum met someone somewhere and he and he didn't know and he says you yeah he didn't know anything about Judaism. So Lip and he SAYS I DON'T WANT to I don't want to know about Yiddishai. I don't want Torah leave me alone. So Lipkus says to him, "You know, one thing we've been accused of, one thing we haven't been accused of as Jews that we're stupid. You want to be stupid? Anti-semitism, this, that, but we're a smart people, right? But you not not checking out what your heritage is, you're stupid." He told him that. And we've never BEEN ACCUSED. THAT'S THAT THAT that line that Lipker threw at him made him become about Shuva with family and grandchildren all from today. Sometimes you have to you have to go for pro kill. You you got you got to really, YOU KNOW, RIDE HIGH AND DO SOMETHING out of the ordinary. You know, CALLING SOMEONE STUPID IS NOT NORMAL, RIGHT? Is is is disgusting. Is it's like that doesn't mean Lipker always call PEOPLE STUPID. BUT HE didn't but in that case he needed to really give the guy a jolt. He tried other ways. So so when we talk about you know balichua the stories you know of of people who don't come from a didn't come from a wholesome family and didn't have the normal experience and and all of a sudden they changed their life. They they all of a sudden give up everything. That's that's a that's a Reb had arguments with parents in Yeus about not not pushing their son or daughter to go to college especially the sons that's WHAT'S SO BAD TO GO TO COLLEGE TO BECOME educated well maybe you know the atmosphere not maybe the atmosphere you know whether it's heresy of Berlin those days or or or the even the apicursus in America in the early days and then the the the girls and the boys and the mixing and assimilation and all that and the Reb says LET YOUR SON LEARNING YESHIVA NO HE WOULD FIGHT WITH parents fight he would argue with them and some gave in some didn't so it you can also say why are you why are you making such a big deal. And trust me, he made a big deal. My own uncle had it out with the Reb in about going to college and the rebu COULDN'T WIN WITH HIM. SO, HE GAVE HIM GUIDANCE WHAT HE SHOULD STUDY, WHAT HE SHOULDN'T STUDY IN COLLEGE. I'm just saying that Iser, you know, see, you know, say everyone NEEDS MEDICINE. NO, NOT EVERYONE NEEDS MEDICINE. There is a concept of we went on we fraed a little bit tomorrow I want to try to finish the mimer so that we could fabang on in two days. Okay. Any any seems it seems you you enjoyed this last part. Hilo too. Hilo I saw Hill's Hill. social worker. So you have many people maybe who >> Lulu's got probably got a lot to say. >> Good for business, Rebby. It's good for businesses classm. Take care. Have a great day. Bye bye.