A Tzaddik after his Lifetime: Greater opportunity- Igeres HaKodesh 27g- Rabbi Chaim Dalfin

so we're going to finish the chapter this has been one of the longest chapters interesting that get us a 27 which which is all about the sadic after his lifetime and how appropriate it is especially for kabad and breast shabas I was in Chicago he did a shabbaton in Chicago actually in a suburb of Chicago Highland Park RAB Yos shano it is is the r the so um I spoke a little bit about uh this this chapter and what we're learning and told them that as I've told you over the years that the four cidic groups that go Ben Ben son after son or son-in-law but direct to the Magid a Chernobyl breast kab and Caren stolin the rest come from students of the Magid so let's say Biv Biv come from the Kad who comes comes from his grandfather who was a student of ofin right but but the chober chober was the oldest student of the Magid hence the chobble Dynasty is direct is is the balat and Bre is so um regardless what the AL speaks about here applies to every every sadic regardless if they're direct indirect it's every speaks about how one can bind himself and connect and receive as the holy Z says more than during the lifetime which is very very startling statement when a person's alive you see them and you hear them and you would think you get more here it says you get more afterlife and and I want to say before we continue inside that when when the Z KES says a statement it's not as unfortunately some people who don't understand or don't want to understand don't appreciate it's not like you know um Bubba mises fantasies exaggerations it's true now doesn't mean we understand it necessarily and soab in particular really spends a lot of time on trying to understand these statements so this chapter is a good example how would a non most other take this statement in the zah that a sadic Moshe is more alive after his passing them before I mean just go out in the street and ask your friends and you we see how they explain it they don't really explain it you know whatever D spends here we've been learning six seven classes on it he he he he he he goes into details and he talks about the levels of thead the levels of the and where is thead level during his lifetime where's the sadik's level after lifetime how do we connect to the sadic through our love our faith love and a and that that that binds us to the sadik who has a higher Faith loving a and that so it it then he's M to us I'm just saying that the entire discussion is is shows us this is what I shows that when you learn a piece of zes it's not just holy words you know by the their their tradition is you all know this that the words of thees on their own Are Holy and you don't need to understand just to read zya like we read to he him they read Z okay ashim we don't have that tradition we want to understand desire but nevertheless most people don't it's it's Arabic it's it's hard language it's a it's it's it's it's written you know in a in a uh in a secretive uh manner in a sense you know it it seems far out but when you when you take the tan and you see how the AL the balat takes certain select ideas throughout the T which come from Z you see that he takes a very different approach he takes the approach to the Z and this is what I I told you that story someone said he wants to learn but he wants to learn to F of the ramar sadic I said fine and me and as we started he said this we have to skip I said why because it's Caba and I was taught in Yesa cabala you skip okay I skipped the first two lines three lines we went on a few lines further it was more Kabal says we have to skip this and so basically we skipped most of the page I said I can't learn with you I I I I I I can't cuz I to me reading something just shaking your head and getting inspired is very nice but it's not my system of learning if it's brought down in a safer ofas it's meant to be understood yes H um I'm actually want to to go back am I Beau yeah I want to go back to um when you talking about the four traditions of students of the Magid as um the uh the of was tal of the mag that's that I'm not familiar with all the others I know well he wasn't a talid but he was a grandson of the Bal you know that right he was a grandson of the BMV direct grandson of the BMV and and um yeah meaning meaning meaning it's an authoritative tradition that goes back to the B I just I'm interested in whether there was a connection between the mag and because I've never heard of it right right I I thought of that too and frankly I would like to investigate that more um maybe some maybe someone has maybe someone has done that already um listen he was 27 years I figur it out he was 27 years younger than the balatan the balatan was the youngest student of the mag the youngest right um what year I don't remember now what year was raban born so we have to know first what year he was born I think he was born during the lifetime of the Mia does anyone remember we have to this we have to take a look at but what what I what we what I meant is that he being a a a grandson an act grandson of of the of the of the balov so kind of we could place hism as a as more direct from the B okay but but but even though you're right he he didn't have the maget as his teacher yeah yeah just his style is so different than than than right right right right um yeah yeah right right yeah so it's it's something to to actually look look at and mrem at hopefully I could do that some point where in other words this is the question where did rman get his style of teaching the bre from my understanding they they always say you know the Learned breast that uh breast is ker is we are ker above so again if if I if I understand that idea they're trying they're saying one sec one second one second yes sir what they're saying is in other words had his own Mahal I think that's what really they're saying in other words they're saying that he was so creative that he created but that's that's what we have to look at is that factual or or who who was his rebi did he have a teacher do we know if he had a teacher what I'm I apprciate the name of her herker oh oh yes yes right I know you yes I forget the first name her and he was a of the B I think yeah okay and I I and you know I think he's buried in Taria that that that harun I think he's buried in inia yes now you remind me now you remind me I think he is credited to be the teacher of RMA okay is what do you want to say I was going to say parenthetically I heard the re from Boston say once that Boston is malus oh yeah we're filling out the we're filling out the tree very good did he explain or he he didn't he didn't explain but the implication was that you know we receive from from others and uh put it put it into action but what to who does the Boston Dynasty attribute itself back l l Boston is a branch of L L I thought it goes back to the Nichols bger no he does yeah he's uh the rebel was Seventh Generation after Nichols so what does have to do with with Le okay so the first Reba from Boston was the nephew of the L Reba in and he his his re was his uncle really hug him were mostly love with some with st stolen he was very influenced by stolen but but but but again but but we're saying that by lineage by lineage it goes back Tok of nickelsburg yeah but you're saying that his teacher was not I understand okay let's let let me finish page two 294 so here we are on the um on the fourth line says an interesting thing here an amazing thing actually saying that with tal with students of aad if if things are done in the right way they can Merit even to receive from the source of where the tadic gets his affluence his as look over here he says the fourth line the the last three words and this amination that that comes upon the students it enters the students Hearts the thoughts of you hear that an amazing thing thead when we connect to aad and we have that for the that sadic will will will give us something that's so powerful IE help us with thoughts of CH help us with and all all such good deeds coming from this amination in particular which shine forth from the plantation in the field mentioned before Hill you were in here yesterday we spoke about the Holy apples kadish which you you you know we you say inos every shabas correct those yeah I i' I've always understood that that's the apple a day that keeps the doctor away very good so so where do the Apple here is Sir keeps the doctor away anyway uh where are these apples these holy apples they are in a field because there's a field a tree in a field and there's apples on the tree so thees listen to this that this is theim theim that are planted in the in the in the field they bring forth Good Apples spiritually speaking and NRA they're called gulin growth of growths you know lots of growth lots of apples but this is normally very concealed in a very great concealment when the sun shines to the Stars beneath the beneath the Earth meaning so you don't see the shine but really the shine of the sun is Illuminating those Stars regarding after he passed away moshe's essence extends itself spreads itself an emanation of it spreads itself generation to the 600,000 Souls just as the son which shines below the Earth to 600,000 stars um you guys can I mean what is that physically in science how does that work could you tell me what the AL means that the sun shines with maybe you could explain that to me a little better no it doesn't it doesn't scientifically is here doesn't it doesn't make sense the is isn't there isn't the sun giving some light to the to the Moon isn't there that concept no reflects the light of the sun the sun rad to the Moon because the moon doesn't give its own light okay but other stars they give their own light their own light as far as we okay so so I think the point what I understand the point he's making here is that satic is like that that his his light shines into Doros like the sun radiates to the Moon okay yes so that is the overall point but but what I want to point out is that he says here very very two what I see is interesting two points one is he says that's in other words when a when aad passes away he passes away it's a big Helen I just we had this discussion this shabas in Chicago you know it's like someone asked um is this the eighth generation of kabad someone who it was his birthday why I was asked to come for the shabbaton and he's a very outspoken 90 year old man a very wealthy man and and a smart man you know he didn't make his money from being a fool that's for sure and you know so he's sometimes can be a troublemaker so but he asked this question like a positive way you know he said it the re passed away so doesn't if if there were seven first says do we find this concept of of generations Seven Generations in other kic movements that was a good question the answer is no not really um you know in other words inab it's so formal you know you hear them we talk we talk about the first the second and the third it's it's like you know and then with with the re when when he began this it's called in Hebrew the D until today in the this is a very very it's the it's the message you know so his question was a does such a similar idea exist in other kic movements as far as I know the answer is no number two by by and large you know by most cic groups and number two number two shouldn't it be the eighth generation so according to to what it says here I said to him it's funny you ask me a question because I'm teaching this to to you to my students according to what Al says here D says that even after a Topic's passing we have all of these uh issues which are very real so kabad takes that very literally and and um in this situation cuz you know then you'll ask well why when the fre passed away do you say it's the and the reab took over it's the Seventh Generation no the same Tanya belongs to the to the fre as it does to to the Reb and and his and the answer is because what's the answer because the Reb didn't have children and didn't leave in the over someone else and didn't make an appointment of someone else and of course there are those that say you know okay too bad you know just because he decided not to speak about it for whatever reason and you know it doesn't mean that but but most almost all won't won't don't say that don't don't agree with that but regardless what we do see is it's that's my point even though H like you said that the the amination of the isold it still causes it it it's concealed it's concealed and on one hand there's a pain you know you want to see your sadic you want to hear your sadic like I admitted to them from the podium shabas you know there's no question but at the same time if this is theem then this is the will of hem and and and you need to not just accept it cuz accepting means you know I really don't agree or but understand that this is the and finally the last point and I'll finish with this is that is saying like you say that if if you're if you're connected and you want to connect yourself you could get from the the highest place of the sadic and that's a a consolement for us that's a comfort for us will continue tomorrow the next chapter Z have a good day I just want to say as I uh that when you know that when uh one of the things that it so inspires me about kabad as a movement and just as somebody who studied leadership and so on is it seemed to me that uh one of the great emphasis of the Rebus that that was that that that everybody has the the potential to be leaders and and the Reb and Hil the Reb in particular said that when he accepted the leadership in January of 1951 at the beginning he said exactly what you just said so it all comes together okay tomorrow take care bye bye