#9 - When and Why did he leave Lubavitch explanation clip 9 of 2010 Schechter Interview

this is clip number nine of the salmon interview that i did with him in 2010 a very important clip here he clearly says when was his transition point when he kind of left the babic to other ways of thinking so i'd like to a little background you know there's uh there's another part to a person's life it's called the personal the familial the wife the husband the mother the father the children the community the alma doesn't really go into that at great length but uh i know quite a bit about that and not everything's for public information however when a person is having issues in various other areas that we just identified then it becomes natural to convince yourself that you're transitioning because of an intellectual decision or a revelation or in this case he became aware of the death street see scrolls and he read about it interestingly finds out there's other cultures and they're going to get lost i'm asking you a question you listener why until until now until that moment why wasn't he interested in the other cultures of the aid of some israel the [Music] and from rhineland everything that he says on the cliff why because something was at the time missing in his relationship with lebavich that's that's to me obvious and because of that you seek other pastures other fields and they took him to a place which was way beyond the orthodox jewish rhineland ash musa nas yemen culture that's all orthodox that's all torah that's all from zalman went to other fields he talks about the women and he says that the previous rebbe you know tells us stories showing how important the women are and part of the tradition and may even make decisions thank you very much that does that equal uh women singing koilisha no does that does that does that equal removing the mojitsa no so obviously when he talks about transition i would say it was a transition transition that was long overdue and that rob zalman even from his days and he says he speaks about his culture of vienna the gymnasium the music the uh learning of latin i mean all he was a very very cultured so that was his business his base at 12 years old 13 years old 14 years old and he brings that to the table in 38 when he meets you know these group of people that have been included then he starts learning and then he comes to america and he becomes a yeshiva student in 770. if i may say so it seems to me that he didn't completely eradicate those issues that were contrary to tita okay he built on them and substituted them for a long while with everything he learned he says i think on this clip of i click before he says the uh rabbonim the fav the ra the the the the wormy uh rabbis that the fried cabbage talks about you know in the 40s in america how they were eating treyfuss non-kosher and teaching children in talmud toras right and he says if you listen carefully says and i was behind that in other words i was thinking that same way he was thinking that same way while the ride was a smooth one as soon as it got rocky for whatever reason and it got rocky then you find other outlets so meeting uh meeting people who you know are intellectual and bright and have different ideas that's fine and then and he says you know i i hung out with them they became my buddies to be my spear but he says also to be mushpa this is because it's inevitable not to be infect affected now what i mean it's inevitable state we have over five thousand slogan and no one has left the fold right no one has done what absolument did but you're all over so learn from the culture and ultimately say labavich is good but it's not broad enough it's not really thinking about the non-jews and different religions about women and all of that so this is uh one aspect of this clip that we have to consider even though on one hand it's such an important piece where he says this is where i made the transition so he's telling you an insight into himself when he kind of broke away from the babbage at the same time he does mention some very important things and one of the things is that the way to understand to impact the person you must understand them and learn from them and i would add only those things that coincide with tita with mitzvos with god as god instructs a jew but the idea to humble yourself and kind of learn from them the overall idea is correct as long as as the nebba said so much in the 50s and some say he was talking mainly to reflect carol park and to them zalman when he spoke about those secrets of not of not uh thinking about tactless and not making compromises in torah but make a compromise yourself he was talking to them because they were such powerhouses so influential people started to gravitate towards them 55 to 65 and on they'd ever spent a lot of time emphasizing the idea a compromise should not be made entitled but in yourself i think this is all part of what we need to think about as we listen to this clip number nine