#2 - Opened and Closed 770 Doors 1941 explanation of clip #2 R Zalman Schechter interview 2010

so this is uh a continuation of the explanation of the zalman interview i did with him back in when he was 85 years old this is for the second segment of the of the of the clip so here if zalman talks a little bit about his sheer that he had with the moroccan jew uh not the sheer that he had with him but the moroccan jew who had a share with the algerian hakam was a substitute teacher for his class and he talks about what he taught him subbis i believe when he talks about that one absula is married um a virgin is married on the third day of the week and he explained that uh and it was the rebbe he found that later was that he found that when he came to america he didn't know until then that it was the son-in-law of the friday at the time was called the ramash that there's a float to history the 2000 years there was a wild in wilderness and 2000 these years tata and two thousand years as you might shift the days of the messiah and ebb explained how there's a continuous flow and it's not homogeneous meaning that every 2 000 years and all the time within the 2000 years it's a different format that hashem that god wants and it makes up a total of those two thousand years and ultimately six thousand years the coming of the mashiach but if zalman says something very interesting which he says he says you know he says me i my heart is in not in the past but in the future that's a very telling remark and i think that that is again whether he thought about it in 1938 when he met the rebber or it's him saying it now at 85 years old but what he's really saying is that's his justification for the jewish renewal movement that to live in the past with the old traditions and the way we did it in europe and the way they did it and try him and the way they did it energy stroll back then and in iraq and in yemen and then morocco that's the past and he's so he's using the rebels teaching of 1938 to justify his shita his approach which is to look for the future in the future we have we have non-jews we have jews we have men and we have women and we make one big chunk of them and we call this chunk the jewish renewal movement everyone's accepted there's no borders everyone can hold hands and we can all do whatever we do all together again i'll let you decide whether that's right or wrong but that's what he's saying and if you look carefully the movement of his body and his head and his eyes when he says that is very telling i believe that what i just said is correct uh we move on now and he talks about him walking from where he he and his parents and family was placed by the hayas the hebrew institute for bringing over uh newly arrived immigrants and from there he walked he says on tv to saint john's place to see the the the rebel yachts now and he said this is 1940. it's a mistake uh he had a memory lapse uh in 1940 the frida karebe for pesach was in lakewood and even later defeated cadaba was in the in the summer in morristown in the sanitarium i heard this just yesterday from charlie roth who's 95 96 uh a cover of salmons from yeshiva so either it was 1940 schwa's time i haven't checked whether the rebel was i don't think it was but i don't think it was who was i think his mistake it's probably 1941 so just for the record it's not 1940 i believe it's 1941. and what does he talk about and he says st john's place why st john's i mean 770 is season parkway so you know i he he was forgetful at that moment and please understand that um he talks about his mashpier the first masjid says jacobson and he talks about uh mentally being the rush of shiva mentally wanting them to to um to stay in yeshiva and and come to the seder to 10 30 11 whenever 11 o'clock was nikola was talmud began at that time and yet he wanted a davon barricas he wanted longer uh and i believe he's not just referring to 41 he's referring to 42 43 and 44 until 45 when he married and there was a schism kind of between the three you know the two mush pm uh and and ravi mantric so i want to make it clear there wasn't a very it wasn't you know a schism in a fight there were several bakarim that were ive them at the time repair attacked zalman and i forget the third now it was their parents hex havrus i think anyway those two darvand and the hey the shady in the second little room which at that time was called the viber shoe the women's section to the to the shule upstairs now the upstairs shoe that the skate the shiny was the woman's section so they were diving there when the buckle were learning tomorrow at 11 o'clock they still were davening they were in that room and zalman had his his place and why do you have his place uh in in in in the room which today is don holla room where abdova drastically show him that was his office the uh is over there and you know khan used to whatever the receiving that was done holy room right next to the bathroom over there in the off the corridor in the hallway upstairs zalma slept there that was his room and he got that and he says because he was the schweiner of 770 he opened up the doors in the morning and closed the doors at night so he was shameless you know he was like a streamer of the besa mikdus and this is also a very interesting thing i mean why did they choose him they didn't have anyone else i think we have to you know give some thought to that and let it you know develop but that's very interesting he also talks about um rabbi khadakov gave a class he says it was wednesday nights the other day i heard it was monster shabbos uh charlie roth husker wrote tells me on saturday night so again who's right and who's wrong i don't know but he gave once a week at class in cleveland so this is very interesting why did he choose clever celebs why didn't you see this you see when i say he wanted to build up the talk and trust faith and no see this doesn't have the talking we'll think about that as well i have my ideas but i'll allow everyone to to to think come up with an answer but basically it was a class and before zalman became an official student in 770 while he was yet living in borough park like i told you his parents lived on 13th and 53rd and today what's the shame to shabbat shul which is there today upstairs in the third floor that was the shakhtar's shlaimer sheikh i think his father's name was that's where they lived and zama said on the tape that he had a key to the base medicine can't go down and diamond might have and he speaks about how he diamond might have been covered and whatever else so he went together with uh rabbi avraham weingarten and both were from vienna and they were good friends and they came to yeshiva at the same time pretty much and uh they stayed friends although rabbi from my understanding is who happened to be my third grade review choices and that really upset him but nevertheless they were very close friends so so zalman attends rabbi khadak of shir he told me i don't know if it's on the tape any of the eclipse uh on this interview but he told me at some time privately that this wasn't the same republican that he worked for as kind of a shliyak for the yeshivas and he had dealings with when he was asked by the previous rabbit together with schlemmer karl buch to go out to the campuses and uh and he um pressured him a lot he told me you know he wants it now and some translations of things into english he told me that put a lot of pressure on him to get it done right away and he felt it was too much for him but he set up khadikav of 1941 when he attended his javascript classes was a different man and it was totally different and he was very very appreciative and receptive of learning crevasse there with rabbi khadakov so this pretty much is a synopsis of what you're going to see on the upcoming tape and again if you have any questions in particular email me and uh i'll try to clarify them for you until next time zai gizent