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Rambam’s Letters (Shiur 8) | Rabbi Yitzchak Breitowitz | September 9th 2025
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here um is dedicated number one
anonymously
for the Rafu Schlay of Oxana Batluma may
she have a raffle the Shah Israel and as
well as Dr. Moshan Phyllis K and Dr. and
Mrs. Harry Shapiro in loving memory of
their father Rabbak Mendel beni zraa
uh who loved and respected and revered
uh learning to Torah and Tom
on the occasion of his 58th yortsight.
It's a long time but a great person is
remembered forever and uh may the dra to
Torah be eloy elo nishmato and again we
thank uh the kors and the shapiro family
uh for the for the dedication
uh we are looking at the Rambam's letter
uh remember what happens you know even
the Rambam was not free of criticism so
it gives us lesser mortals a certain
amount of comfort Of course Mosher
Raveno wasn't free of criticism. So even
greater models than that. And the Rambam
was accused of and being an Apicorus
based on his own principles. Right. The
Rambam's 13th principle of faith is uh
that there is there is resurrection of
the deads. The Rambam was accused by a
number of uh important people prominent
people uh that he did not believe in
physical resurrection of the body. He
only believed in resurrection of the
soul. And as a result, the Rambam is an
apicorus as a co-fair. And as a result,
the Rambam felt he had to write a
relatively long letter in Arabic
translated into Hebrew uh defending his
position and basically stating that he
absolutely does believe in physical
resurrection as is evidenced uh both by
his commentary to the Mishna Sanhedrin
where he enumerates 13 principles of
faith and one of them is physical
resurrection as well as in the Mishna
Torah where the Rambam says
He who is co co-airum
does not have a share in the world to
come. Uh nevertheless as I mentioned
last week and I'm going to elaborate on
it some more. Uh the Rambam does give
cursory lip service to physical
resurrection but uh he never spends more
than a few lines on it and he always
talks about the soul and not the body.
And in the morim which was already
written and translated he does not
mention resurrection of the dead
whatsoever. He totally omits it from the
morim. So there might be a legitimate
argument. Did the Rambam I mean I hate
to go there but people do go there uh
including the critics at the time that
the Rambam did not truly believe in what
he said. He was giving lip service to a
popular belief but when it came to the
MS uh the Rambam did not consider
physical resurrection to be important
and the Rambam wrote his defense. Now
many people say even after the defense
the Rambam does not consider it that
important as we will see and there is
even a view among some historians that
the letter on resurrection was a forgery
and was not even written by the Rambam
again uh that's a minority view in
academic historians but it is a view
that is maintained uh however uh even if
we assume the Rambam's authorship I
think once we will see his definition of
triatim you might think that some of the
accusations might in fact be accurate.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. So the p the primary origin for
the belief inm is not in the Torah
itself. Now the Gammorian Sanhedrin
gives some indirect proofs which are not
necessarily so conclusive. For example
uh in the keshma it says
that Hashem is speaking to the midbar
and saying that you and your children
shall live long on the land. Now the the
midbar did not enter Israel. So this
might says this may be an indicator of
but the most explicit proof is actually
safer donal at the end of safer donal in
don peric bay uh the puk says those who
are sleeping in the ground meaning the
bodies that are buried in the ground
yakumu shall arise that is considered to
be very explicit and in point of fact
the Torah itself is not very explicit
about we have a lot these indirect
proofs but Donil the Rambam himself says
is the main. Now to really understand
the Rambam uh the Rambam Shittita we
need to examine both the predecessor of
the Rambam Rav Sajjon
and the successor of the Rambam the
Ramban and only when you have a picture
of Rav Sajjon's view and the Ramban's
view can you then put the Rambam in
perspective uh so I'm going to start
actually with the view of the Ramban.
Now remember the Ramban is the
generation after the Rambam. Uh their
lives over overlapped a little bit but
the Rambam died when the Ramban was a
child. So they did not they did not know
each other. Ra Mosha ben Nakman Rambam
lived his life uh primarily in Islamic
Egypt. Ramban lived his life in Catholic
Spain except for the last few years
where the Ramban actually came to Erit
Israel and was Zoha to to live in
Erasel. The Rambam is buried in but the
Rambam was not Zoha to live in Eric
Israel except for a brief time during
his adolescence. Ramban actually was Za
uh to to live here. I'm going to start
with the Ramban because in a sense the
Ramban actually became the mainstream
view of Judaism and it is probably the
view that you are most familiar with
because it is what we would teach uh in
yeshivos and be shakov and and and the
like. So it's easier to start with the
more familiar idea and then we'll move
to Sajjon and the Rambam which are
actually less familiar ideas that are
commonly not taught.
Ramban we know of course wrote a great
many things. Um the Ramban wrote his
monumental commentary on the Torah which
is second in importance only to Rashi.
No question about it. Uh the Ramban
wrote uh commentaries on much of the
Talmud. uh but one of the very
interesting swarim that the Ramban wrote
is a safer called toasa Adam and toasa
Adam is a hakic compendium on the laws
of mourning a very very complete safer
on the laws of morning and in fact it is
the primary source for both the Torah
and the
in the laws of morning if you want to
know where they took the from it is from
the safer Torah
Part three of Torasa Adam though, so
this is part three of Torasa Adam is a
self-contained work that is often
printed separately called Shah Hagamul,
the gate of reward of recompense. And
here after the Rambam I'm sorry after
the Ramban
finished his discussion of he then
discusses what happens after a person
dies.
So Shagamul is technically not a
separate book. It is part three of Torah
but to Adam the first two parts of
Torasa are all and part three deals with
the issue of what happens after death.
And here the Ramban again this is not
the Rambam's opinion that's important.
The Ramban divides things into three
stages. There is
there is
and there is
and these are three distinct
uh se sections or parts of things that
happen to a person. Of course, Mashiach
in a way can happen when you're alive
too. But but basically say a person died
now. So it would be three. Now
before
>> that's exactly right. This mirrors
exactly the
world. There is nothing like you God in
all. But then it says angel
um
well we don't know I mean norm normally
the keshma were written by the ane kessa
sanidola uh but there may have been pim
that were added later for example kodon
is almost certainly added later uh is
part of kodon that that would be the
that would be the question. So we do
have four terms that are mentioned in
which is just this world but
mashiach
the Ramban goes with these three ideas
although he's going to change the
nomenclature a little bit so I'm going
to I'm going to have to revise what I
just said and that is the following when
a person this is ramban this is not yet
Rambam in fact I I don't even know if I
will get to the Rambam today even though
that's our that's our course But you can
only understand the Rambam
if you can compare it to the Ramban
which is mainstream. According to
Ramban,
when a person dies, the nama is
separated from the gof. The goof is
buried in the ground and the goof can
decompose except in the rare case of
phenomenally great sadikim that even the
physical body does not uh decompose. But
that's the body. But the real person is
the nishama, the breath of God, the
image of God. And the nishama goes to
akadesh and there is a judgment after
death for good or for bad. Uh some
nishot maybe most nishot have to spend a
certain amount of time in what we call
gehenn.
Um you know I had a vivid you know gay
gay benam of course is actually just the
name of a valley uh in Jerusalem. And
the reason why hell or purgatory,
however you want to translate it, got
associated with gehennam is simply
because in that valley some of the bad
kings of the Jews, they used to burn
human sacrifices and the like. So that
became associated as a mock t. But
recently I think there's like a a
wedding hall or something. They make
weddings in gehenn
um and uh so I had to I had to go uh
some wed some weddings are some weddings
are gem. Okay. But I had to I had to go
to the wedding and you have to walk over
this bridge. That's a very and you're
walking it says says this is the the way
to gay benam etc. So you know u it makes
you think as you're walking over this
rope this rope bridge that's a little
swaying sway in in the wind. Uh but
basically uh what gehenn is uh according
to the Ramban is a purgatory not of the
body not of the body it's a purgatory of
the soul and the purpose of gehennam is
not so much to punish it's to purify so
that the person's nishama gets rectified
gets repaired like physical therapy
right physical therapy can be
excruciatingly painful let's say god
forbid a person broke their legs broke
their hip
And you know they have to walk they have
to exercise and they may literally even
an adult may literally be crying may
literally be screaming please let me go
to bed and the family might have tears
in their eyes but you know you got to
keep doing this you got to keep doing so
I think it's helpful to view gehenn
actually in that particular way that we
don't know exactly the pain the pain is
described as fire but obviously when
you're talking about the nishama you're
not dealing with physical fire. But
whatever it would be, uh some describe
gehenn as we feel all the pain that we
caused other people in our lives without
any of the defense mechanisms that we
give ourselves.
Or some look at gehenn as uh you're
watching two movies. You're watching the
life you lived and you're watching the
life you could have lived. And when you
compare the two, we get a sense of
ganim. Whatever it is, uh it is uh
primarily a spiritual purification
ritual. Some people don't have to go to
gahan. Some people go to gahim for five
minutes. But as you know there is an old
rabbitic tradition in the garamaria
itself that uh even the most evil person
you know we're not we're not talking
about Hitler but you know the the evil
within the parameters of normal evil
only goes to ganim at a maximum of 12
months and that is the basis of the
minog that kadesh for a parent is only
recited 11 months because kadesh is to
keep the parent away from Gahan or out
of Geahan and uh one does not want to
declare that their parent god forbid is
a Russia. It is brought down strangely
enough maybe it's not strange that if
one has an honest belief that their
parents might be a Russia you actually
do say kadesh for 12 months uh because
you're doing something good for your
parent there's also a tradition this is
not in the Gmorra it's in the zor that
shabas is a day off in gehennote
uh get freed from the gehenn on shabas
which is one of the reasons why there's
mitzvah to prolong shabas to give them a
little bit of longer. Be it as it may,
after gehennam,
the the nama has now been cleansed. It's
now been purified. It's now been
repaired.
There is what we call
hanat
the soul gets reunited with God. Now,
for most of us, we call that olhaba. But
I I do want to correct right off the bat
that the Ramban does not call the world
of the soul olaba. He actually calls it
ganeden. So this will be a a terminology
change that's significant. And ganeden
is a spiritual existence. There is no
body. There is no eating. There is no
drinking. And even though khazal often
use physical, this is all in shahagul.
Even though Khazal often used physical
metaphors like eating and drinking and
the Leviathan and cups of wine and
rivers of balsam oil and the like, these
are simply michalim. These are simply
parables to let us feel a little bit how
delightful and infinitely pleasurable
this connection with God is. It is the
connection of the soul to the creator
and that is called ganeden.
that is called olmanote.
For many of us, the term olhaba is often
used for that. But but as I say, you'll
see there's a reason why the Ramban does
not call that olabah. But he does say
after ganim or if you don't need if you
don't need to go through ganim right
away, you have what is called this
ganeden which is the spiritual
the spiritual pleasure of your soul
being reunited with God. And on this Oo
says that even one second of this
experience is greater than all of the
pleasures of this world. Yeah.
>> What's the significance
of uh imagining that uh or having this
arguments whether it's uh we're talking
spiritual or physical what what's the
advantage of the physical world uh in
terms of in comparison to the spirit?
>> Right. I I'll get to it. And in in me in
in many many ways, the question you're
raising is at the core of the Rambam's
deemphasis of
ultimately that that's exactly the
Rambam's point, I think. Uh but we'll
see that the Rambam does have a
different view. So I I'll I'm doing
Rambam right now and I'll I'll try to
address that question as we go on. But
they say uh your thinking I think is
very much in line with the Rambam's
orientation. I mean again I hate to I
hate to say it this way but I think it's
largely true. Meaning the Rambam was
stuck with a doctrine called physical
resurrection. He didn't see it as very
important but he was stuck with it. So
he had to stick it in but he tries to
relegate it to a relatively
insignificant corner as opposed to
Ramban who makes it very very uh
primary. Okay. So this is olaba. Now at
some point
in well okay I keep on saying because
I'm so used to it but again in
Rambadan's terminology it's genen
or or the other name is olam han shamat
and the key to this is there is no
gashmot. There is no physicality
whatsoever in the olam hanes. It's all
about your connection to God and the
intensity of the connection and the
depth of the pleasure depends on how
righteous you are. Meaning even a bad
person after he's gone through gahim he
he's had some mitzvot in his life. So
he'll get some olaba some connection. A
righteous person gets more of a
connection. Meaning everybody may wind
up in Olahaba
>> but you know do you are you getting
bleacher seats or uh you know whatever
it would be there are infinite levels of
infinite levels of of seats and infinite
levels of connection and generally
speaking
>> you're kind of well this is interesting
you're generally frozen based on what
you were when you died because that's
the judgment and yet we do know that
there are various things that children
in particular can do to elevate
the nama that's called the nama should
have an aliyah and
explains that because there are ripple
effects in our actions the ripple
effects can change things so for example
let's say that you were za in your life
to bring one particular family to
mitzvah to one particular person to shat
mitzvah
and the person you know and then uh the
makarev dies but because of the thing
you did with that one person they get
married they have children in other
words it keeps on accumulating so every
yard site it is said Hashem judges based
on the accumulation now god forbid that
can work the other way as well if shalom
through hashem you drove one person away
from Yiddish,
you can be held accountable in future
years for all of the things that might
have been done had you not done
something negative. Right? So there are
ways therefore that even after death a
person's level can be elevated or god
forbid even downgraded based on ripple
effects and based on what their children
do and their toidum do. But generally
speaking the primary judgment is based
on time of death. What was the what was
the person? Okay. Now at some point in
Olam Haz there will be something called
Yamote Mashiach. Now Yamote Mashiach
exists will exist concurrently with Olam
Hanes. I mean right now somebody dies
there's Omhan Shamos. There's Ganed.
Okay. So so they're not here when
Mashiach comes. But at some point in
this world Mashiach will come. And uh
this is a descendant of David Hamelik
and Mashiach has a number of functions.
He will bring all the Jews back to Erit
Israel if they haven't come already. Uh
he will rebuild the Beth Mikdash. Uh he
will bring in world's peace into the
world. Uh all of the nations again it's
not that Mashiach will have political
sovereignty but all of nations will
acknowledge the Jewish people as the
nation of God. they will come to the
basa mikdash etc. So Yo Mashiach is a
very very wonderful time. Uh but Yamote
Mashiach in contradistinction
to Ghana and Olam Hanes is very much a
physical thing that's happening in this
world and in fact people will still die.
Uh Mashiach will die and Mashiach will
be replaced by son of Mashiach. It'll be
a hereditary monarchy just as David's
monarchy was hereditary. So do not
confuse Yamote Mashia with Maba. And if
people I'm sorry I keep on saying I want
to be more exact. U according to the
Ramban it's not don't confuse Yo
Mashiach with Ganeden
Hanes.
uh and when people die during the period
of the messianic era they will go to
deden etc. Okay. Now the final stage is
at some point
and uh this will be after Mashiach comes
and this may be immediately after
Mashiach comes in which case there will
not be death or it might be a thousand
years after Mashiach comes or it might
be 10,000 years after Mashiach comes or
it might be a million years after
Mashiach comes. At some point there will
be the final stage
kind of what you might call the end of
history in which Hashem is going to
reunite all of the nishamat in Ghana
in Manat. They are going to be reunited
with their physical bodies. And in a
sense what is happening is God is
collapsing the wall between the physical
and the spiritual so that even the
physical becomes spiritualized.
Now the Ramban is not so clear that when
the soul comes back into the body and
there's resurrection of the dead which
will be forever and ever and ever and
ever there'll be no death. Uh will that
be a physical existence? Will there will
there be eating or drinking? Or is it a
different idea that Hashem brings the
spirituality into the physicality? In a
sense, the whole trajectory is a 360
degree journey to bring us back where we
were when Adam and Kavu were created.
We're back in the Garden of Eden. Now,
the Ramban calls the hat,
the world of resurrection.
That is what he calls alam
haba. Alam haba is the new world that
god creates when the dead are
resuscitated and there are no longer uh
going to be death in the world. There's
no longer going to be illness.
Essentially it is ganeden with a
physical body. Meaning even the body
kind of joins with the soul in ganed.
Now the thing is
there is a mahlo. Okay, let let me let
me share with you a gamorrah and a very
interesting explanation of the maharal.
Uh we know that one of the prohibitions
in the Torah. We read about it last week
is you're not allowed to wear shness,
right? You're not allowed to wear
garments that are wool and linen that
are sewn or combined together. By the
way, if they're separate garments, it's
mudra. can wear
um you know you can wear a linen belt
and a a wool uh jacket or whatever it
would be. It's only when they're sewn
together uh that there is a problem. Of
course, a neck tie is actually a shila
because some say the necktie itself is
like no if you have a linen tie in a
wool shirt or vice versa the tie itself
is connecting them whatever it will be.
But there's an isser of shness. So the
Gmorra discusses the following question.
Uh you bury a mace, someone dies,
you bury a mace in burial shrouds.
Now let's say for some crazy reason the
only garments you have to put on a dead
body is wool and linen shas. Can you b
can you bury a dead person in garments
that are wool or linen? So the garra
says the following. Well, there is no
problem with the sin of shness because
wearing shness because of a well-known
idea that once a person is dead, they
are putter from mitzvah, right? So uh to
put shness on a dead body is no sin
because the dead body is not
transgressing
any a uh this is homalytically derived
from the verse inimal
the dead cannot praise God meaning they
don't do mitzvah fact that's why even in
Maba they're a little sad that they
don't have a chance to do more mitzvah
now but here's the problem the gammorra
says But the problem is
eventually there's going to be
resurrection of the dead. And apparently
the assumption is whatever garments you
were wearing you're going to be
resurrected. And even though those
garments may have decomposed but Hashem
will bring them back. So the problem is
yeah there's no shotness problem when
it's on the dead body but you're going
to cause the the person to sin when
there's resurrection of the dead. So the
Gorus says okay so this problem depends
on a shila called mitzvot
the future which here means after
resurrection
right the word blessed love is a very
ambiguous term by the way sometimes it's
geden sometimes it's mashiach sometimes
it's resurrection blessed love is one of
those catchall terms that can mean
anything and you got to examine the
context but in this context is talking
about post-resurrection.
So there is a shila are the mitzvah
going to be nullified
in this perfect world of maybe there's
no need for a Torah anymore. Everything
is perfect. So if I hold the mitzvah are
not going to apply in the world of
resurrection
then there's no problem. Let him wear
shness. Uh you're allowed to wear
shness. If on the other hand I follow
the view that the mitvot are going to be
operative then I'm not allowed to bury
the mate in shness lest he get up
wearing shness. The gammorra leaves this
as an unresolved question whether the
mitzvot are going to be nullified or
not. Now, Maral asks a very good
question based on one of the Rambam's 13
principles, which is not the principle
we're discussing, but a general
principle that don't we believe that the
Torah is eternal? The Torah is not
changeable. Uh so, how could there be a
Shila if the mitzvot are going to be
nullified in the world of resurrection?
Isn't that a contradiction to the idea
of eternity of Torah? And Maharal
answers very very convincingly that the
rule about eternity of the Torah only
applies within the confines of this
world. Meaning there will never be a
time in this world that the Torah will
be nullified. And that's our that's our
argument against Christianity and that's
our argument against Islam. And when
Mashiach comes indeed all of the
mitzvotes are going to be kept. But the
moral says the world postresurrection
when the dead come back that is a new
world. In that new world things could
change meaning the morale is
between
where for sure the is not going to be
changed and the
which is an
perhaps there can be changes. It is a
new world. uh the bodies come back right
after they've died. uh now I want to
mention another question which is not
relevant to our subject but it's an
interesting question that Tossos asks.
The Gomorrah
posits that the only problem with uh the
shotness is the problem that after
resurrection there may be a prohibition
of shotness and you're not allowed to
cause that sin and if the mitzvah is
nullified there would be no problem.
Toss says there should be another reason
why it's saucer. The Gomorrah says and
we follow this that when you're within
four amos
of a grave
the men who are wearing titis
have to put in their titus. You're not
allowed to wear fillin within four amos
of a kev. You're not even allowed to
learn Torah
within four of a kev.
And this is based on a in Mish
that criticizes people that are low
lash.
Low egg lash means you make fun of a
poor person by flaunting your wealth. As
if to say you have a person who uh only
has a piece of bread and I eat a fancy
meal in front of that person with a
piece of bread. That's cruel. You're
making fun of a person who doesn't have
the resources. How does that apply here?
Once the person is in Ghana or Habah,
whatever you want to call it, they
cannot do the mitzvot anymore and I'm
next to them and I'm doing all of my
mitzvot
that's low rash. They feel a certain
pain that they can no longer dab and
they can no longer learn. They can no
longer put on. Right? This is garbanos.
There is a principle of lowe laash
rash r shin not to do certain things in
front of the dead. So Tossa says if I
put shotness on a dead body and the n is
shama is aware of it forget about the
problem of future of aos am I not a lowe
because I'm telling the guy you can wear
shadness you're dead you don't have
mitzvos anymore meaning why does the
garra connect the discussion to the
shila of mitzvos
leasid leavo uh why isn't there a low
egg lash problem. That's a good that's a
good question.
uh toos uh I'm sorry not to the mesh
wants to say that lowe laash only
applies to doing positive commandments
that the mets cannot do like fill in
talis Torah learning but in terms of
negative commandments like not wearing
shness if the mace doesn't have the
negative commandment there's no problem
mean meaning you're not really making
fun of him because there's nothing that
he's missing unlike a positive
commandment where you gain gain kaduca
now let me just mention Though there is
one minog that we have about sites that
is very problematical in in light of
lowe
that is when a man is buried in a talis
right the talis is over the
so the custom is
that one of the corners is cut either
one of the situs is cut uh or the corner
is rounded so it doesn't have situs
there to show that the person is no
longer obligated in situs. Now that is
seems to be low eglar rush because
that's a positive commandment that
you're telling the person you don't have
anymore. So because of this there this
is the min. This is to this day this is
the min. But there were gdole Israel who
were also great makubalam who left
instructions that they wanted to be
buried in a complete talis. And we have
two stories. Uh one the vnagon and the
other was more or less almost a
contemporary of the vnagon. Rebel
Alexander Ziskin dear was a tremendous
sadic. He wrote a safer called Yod
Vishod one of the great great musers for
uh fact the used to say Hashem had
Rahmanas and Mnagdim for not being so he
gave them the rashod who was a misn
uh but both of them left instructions
that they wanted to be buried in a an
intact talis and both of them different
things happened that their wishes were
frustrated. Let me tell you the story
with the vil nagon first. The vil nagon
died his side is coming up. The vagon
died ko sukus
uh and uh he had left instructions to
his toidim. He was already in an alma
his wife was not alive. He left
instructions to his toidim that he
wanted to be buried with the complete
talis. Now to them were with him like 24
hours a day. But for Sukus, the Talmud
that was Mishanim went to see his
parents just for Sukus for for Yamch.
And then when he gets word that the G
was nif, he runs back to Vna as soon as
he can. And he's already the middle of
the Leva. They're about to lower the
Vong with the talis that was cut
and he stops the funeral. This Rafaj was
the name of the Talmud. And he says,
"Stop. stop. The guy left instructions
that he is supposed to be buried in a
kosher talis.
Well, uh it's the middle of Levia, you
know,
Levia great great person. So the basin
of VNA stopped the proceedings and they
actually adjudicated do we listen to the
Villagon's request or do we follow the
Minag is that even the Vadon is bound to
the Minhag is and they actually the fact
that we didn't get news of this request
until the Vil Nagon is already wearing a
puzzle talis shows that Mina Shamayim
even the Vagon has to follow the the min
And that the vilon was buried with a
pussle talis. Now the shab is a little
different. He actually got buried. Not
buried. He he he by the after the Tahara
when they put on the they put on a
kosher talis and as he was being lowered
into the ground, you know, without a
coffin, you know, like we do in what
happened was that the corner of the
talis got caught on a nail
and it tore
and that was said to also be a sim
minim.
Uh so that is a good katcha meaning it's
one thing to say putting shness on the
mats is not a problem because that's
only a negative commandment and if he
doesn't have the negative commandment
there's no problem. Uh but when it comes
to depriving the person of titus there
you do have a problem. Uh that's like I
mean I mean if I can't wear titus in
front of a met because that gives the
met pain then when I put on a talis
puzzle I mean that should be the same
thing. So that that is a good question.
Yeah.
When when is it that it says
that whole when does that?
>> Yeah. Uh the simple meaning of the PK is
that that is referring to Yo Mashiach
because that's referring to when Israel
will do Chuva and turn to Hashem. So
that's not referring to
that is referring to Mashiach or at
least the first part. By the way, Rev.
Cook seems to say a similar thing
because there's a famous passage in Rev.
Cook's writings where, you know, as you
know, well, maybe as you don't know, I
mean, people like to say Ruff Cook was a
vegetarian.
Uh, in truth, Ruff Cook was not a
vegetarian. Ruff Cook ate meat, but he
ate meat sparingly. First of all,
everybody in Europe ate meat sparingly
because they were poor. And in Erit,
people were even poorer. Uh but but the
truth is RV cook does endorse
vegetarianism
as a spiritually superior
life. Uh because uh he talks about the
idea that reverence for life should even
include animal life and the like. But RV
cook has a very important caveat. This
is important to keep in mind that he
says that vegetarianism
needs to be a higher step in the moral
evolution of man. Meaning when we
perfect our human relationships and when
we disengage from violence and hatred,
we then move to a higher level where the
reverence even encompasses the animal
and we move to vegetarianism. But he
said it has to be the culmination
of spiritual perfection visa v our
fellow human being. And therefore if
cook argues that if you try to jump
levels I mean listen I I I know you
can't prove anything by anecdote but you
know Hitler was a vegetarian for
example. Okay okay okay I mean I
understand that you know there are good
ve vegetarians too. Some of my best
friends are are vegetarians. Uh but the
point of Cook was making is that
sometimes when you artificially jump to
higher levels
without mastering the foundational lower
levels your priorities can be distorted.
We actually see this with PETA, right?
PETA is a uh people for the ethical
treatment of animals where PETA has
actually killed human beings in their
desire to protect animals or when there
was a suicide I I don't call the suicide
bomb but at one point in the terrorist
activities they sent a donkey instead of
a human being a suicide bomber they um
the terrorist uh put uh ammunition on an
animal. So Peter protested and mean
meaning when human beings were killed,
men, women, children were being killed
by terrorist activities, there was no
protest. But when the animal got killed,
all of a sudden that became a cause uh
for an international demonstration. So
Raf Cook was not a vegetarian, but but
it is fair to say that he viewed
vegetarianism as a spiritual level that
one might aspire to. uh and Rafkuk then
made the point that even the corbanote
will eventually uh no longer be animal
corbanote they will be vegetarian
corbanote. Now this is a real problem uh
because once again uh the Rambam lays
down and Ramban everybody agrees that
the Torah is not going to be changed and
in fact the Rambam mentions explicitly
corbanote as an example and in our own
davin which cook certainly dabbed in the
musf we talk about the restoration
of the musf I mean and it mentions the
animals right on this day you bring this
and on this day you bring this you know
certainly his is the carbon Oh no,
they're not going to return. So Ruff
Cook, of course, Kadaro does not fully
explain. Ruf Cook is always
beautiful, poetic, mystical, and
enigmatic. So but but but the normal way
it's understood is Rav Cook does not
mean as soon as Mashiach comes.
You know, we throw out animal corbanos.
Of course, we're going to have animal
corbanos, but he means there'll be
developmental stages. Perhaps he's
talking about the world after
resurrection of the dead which is a
different world a more perfect world and
there as moral says it's possible that
some mitzvot are going to change right
is a different stage is the Adam and Eve
adam
in uh in ganed so cook might be
understood the same way that the moral
understands the issue of of shness okay
so according to Ramban this is Ramban
We have a fairly clear typology of
events. We have death. We have judgment.
We have ganam which may or may not be
necessary. We have olam hanes shamat
which is ganeden which is totally
spiritual. At some point on this this
earth there will be yos hamosch. But the
final end point will be hameim where the
body and the soul unite and uh that is
forever and ever and ever with Hashem
and that is what the Ramban calls olhab.
Now, now the MS is it actually does not
fit. This does not fit the doning
because in the dening we mention
and
as two separate things when according to
Rambanim
is
hab and what we call olabah commonly
raan has another name for it
or the olamat
which means though according to the
raman ghen
is not eternal. It is the temporary
reward for the righteous until such time
as there will be the resurrection of the
dead which is the ultimate uh which is
the ultimate reward. This is Ramban and
um this is the normal I mean the the
only this is the normal account that we
give. The only difference I think in the
way we normally teach it is we tend to
use the word olabah for ganeden and olam
hanes. So our terminology is a little
loose but according to the raan at least
the precise terminology is that olamab
is olam
the world of resurrection.
And and I have to say that this fits the
word haba very well. You know the Rambam
had to be matka. Why do you call it the
future world? Olaba exists right now
because when people die they go to Maba.
But according to the Ramban it's very
meduyak. That world isn't here yet.
Olaba is not here yet. It is not here
until resurrection. Now resurrection
raises its own individual questions when
you combine it with another idea which
is not in the Gmorrah at all and that is
the idea of Gilgal.
Gilgal
means reincarnation. The idea that the
soul comes back a number of times to
complete its mission.
uh and that's independent of the
resurrection of the dead at the end of
time. So people raise all sorts of
questions. If I've been in this world
five times and my soul has inhabited
five bodies and all of those bodies are
dead and eventually there's resurrection
of the dead that is eternal. Which of my
five bodies get my soul? Uh right. How
does that work with with reincarnation?
Now, first I just want to say just
parathetically this this this year she
is not about reincarnation. I'm not
going to give a whole share on it.
Whether Judaism believes in
reincarnation at all is not so posited
by I'm not there yet but just in terms
of reincarnation
who was even before the Rambam Ravajon
is more than 100 years before the Rambam
basically says reincarnation is a
foreign idea that is repugnant to
Judaism and if it got into Judaism it
got in by foreign influences and other
religions. So obviously he was aware
that there were people who believed in
reincarnation in Judaism. He said it is
absolutely false. So Sajon says no.
Rambam
says nothing about it. I think the
implication would be that he also would
say no because he simply did not even
honor it with an honorable mention.
Ramban on the other hand
seems to endorse the possibilities of
Gilgal uh in his commentary on the book
of EV right the Ramban wrote in addition
to Shahagmul and everything else he
wrote a perish on the book of EV
and EV of course deals with the great
great enigma of human existence. Why do
bad things happen to good people? And
there are different answers and
different approaches and different
positions. And Eve's own friends are
taking different positions on this since
you know the book is a debate. Uh but
Ramban throws into the mix of all of the
different ideas an idea that
laavil is very similar to Buddhism, but
the Raban articulates it as part of
Torah. And that is sometimes a person
suffers in this life because of the sins
that they committed in a past
reincarnation, a past carnation. And
therefore, the Ramban says Gilgal may be
part of the explanation of why the
righteous suffer. Be it as it may, I'm
not going to investigate that particular
thought, but just to make the simple
point that Ramban clearly
endorsed and validated the idea of
Gilgal uh unlike Rafajon who absolutely
repudiates it and unlike the Rambam who
simply ignores it which I assume would
be equivalent to a rejection of it. Now
if you subscribe to Gil you immediately
have the problem if my soul has been
through five bodies
you know which body gets it at the final
resurrection. Now there are two there
are two answers to this. One answer is
it'll have to be the final body in which
you completed your mission. The one that
completed the race so to speak is the
one that gets the soul.
um
that creates a little a few problems
with husband, wives and the like. I'll
get I'll get to that. Uh others say
which is actually much easier to work
with that God simply clones the souls.
Meaning to say if you were in five
bodies, so five bodies get your soul. Me
meaning to say now you may not know
meaning you literally have a soulmate
out there. Uh now they don't look like
you because there's a different body.
They don't look like you. It's not like
uh you know you're identical twin but
spiritually they're your soul. Even
though they may be in different
countries, you may not know them and
like that does make it easier because if
you go with the that doesn't prove it's
right, but that makes it easier because
that avoids a lot of problems because if
you assume only the last soul gets it,
you got a problem where a husband if
husband and wife were functioning at
different levels. Let's say a man is
married to a woman and he's in his
fourth life. I'm using five as an
example. Just let's assume five is your
is your maximum. He's in life number
four, she's in life number five. Uh but
since he's going to be reincarnated and
marry somebody else, you you know it's
going to be a difficult matchmaking type
of process. Mashen Kane if we simply
understand that the clones I'm sorry
that the souls are clones all right so
uh there's enough to uh share share with
everybody everybody is going to be
everybody is going to be okay so these
are difficulties of course the Rambam um
okay uh does not hold of Gilgal so it
wouldn't be a problem I also want to
point out though I I I I don't want to
overstate it when I said that it's clear
that the Ramban subscribes to Gilgal
this is based not in Shahagamal. This is
based on his perish to the book of EV.
So I do have to be honest with you and
say that there are some that have
questioned the authorship of the Ramban
on that perish. Which means we cannot
necessarily definitively
say that the Ramban holds of Gilgal
unless we knew for sure that he was the
author of the perish. Now again most say
that he was uh but uh there is a
question unlike by the way just to give
you more bibliographical information
there's a commentary of the Ramban on
Shirim
and there almost everybody says it's not
from the Ramban. So the commentary on
Shir Shirim is more likely than not not
to be the Ramban even though it's
absolutely beautiful parish and the
commentary in the book of E is more
likely than not to be the Ramban but
there is a bit of a question and
therefore we can't automatically put the
Ramban in the progil column at a 100%
level of of certainty. Okay. So, I just
need to be uh accurate in that
particular description. Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. No, no, no. So, so
let me just take it a little further.
Once we get beyond the Ramban and we go
a few hundred years uh ear later, the
time of Rav Mosha, the great Makubala
means fat. Rav Mosha Cordo the Arizal
the talum of the Arizal Vital then for
sure Gilgal becomes a mainstream belief
of Judaism there is absolutely no
question whether it's in the Ramal the
gra and earlier the Arizal Mosha Cordo
Gilgal becomes mainstream
fact Rafen Vatal wrote a big big big
safer based on the AR teachings it is
called Shah Hagilgulum,
the book on reincarnations. In fact, if
you go to kabad.org, you can even get an
English translation of Shahhagilgulum.
So, uh I would have to say that Gilgal
is, you know, it's interesting, you
know, um
what did John F. Kennedy say when he
visited um West Berlin when there was
the Berlin Wall? He says, "We're all
Berliners or whatever it is." Uh he said
it in German, been a Berliner. So the
truth is lav all of us are cababalists
today. You don't realize this. Uh we are
cabalists. Uh you you may never have
opened a cabalistic book. The truth of
the matter is the mainstream teachings
of Judaism are largely cababalistic in
many many ways. The Rambam is a very
isolated voice in contemporary religious
experience. Ravajo they represented a
certain rationalist tradition and
particularly when it's filtered through
kasidas kabalo became mainstream
Judaism. So as a result the prayer and
keshma
and the prayer at the end of of peric
are from the makubala. Now peraksh
itself is very very old but the that's
from the anonymous but it's from the
time of the mishna. So perk Shira is
very very old but a lot of the prayers
afterwards are are from the makubalam
and mkubalam do of course go with gilgal
that many people would say if you don't
believe in gilgal you're anoris
but I I don't think that could possibly
be true but but nevertheless uh yeah but
nevertheless it is it is the case that
Gilgal has been endorsed uh ari rafim
batal v nagon ram khal
uh and many it's also found in the zo
but but that that okay that gets you
into see every everything is connected
here now that gets you into the morass
of how old is the zor
now the traditional answer is the zor is
from rabish shimono
which gets you into the time of the
Mishna earlier than the Mishna second
century of the common era which would
make it tremendously authoritative
equal to the Mishna equal right. On the
other hand, Ravakov took the position
that because the zora was not even
disseminated until the 1200s, it was the
product of Rav Mosha D. Leon who was a
great cabalist but uh much much later uh
in kind of a reverse plagiarism in which
uh instead of taking someone else's work
and giving himself credit, he wrote the
work himself and gave someone else
credit in order that it should have
authority. That's reverse plagiarism. uh
again I don't want to get into that
again the traditional view is of which
would endorse Gilgal but if it's of
Mosha de Leon it simply becomes a a
later cabalistic idea okay so but as I
say in Shahul
the Ramban just talks about
Mashiach
he does not bring in Gilg yeah
>> we are responsible for therapist
Why does it seem to be only two stages?
>> Yeah, that is a good question. Haba is
not specifically mentioned, but in one
of the amuna, it says God will give
reward to those who do good and haba is
included in the the reward and
punishment uh system. But according to
Ramban, of course, I know that an imams
are not the Ramban's formulation.
According to the Ramban, it actually
makes sense because the ultimate eternal
reward is only
a holding stage until I'm sorry is a
holding stage until
like the Rambam. There'll be more of a
question which which I'll get to. So
again, my purpose today
uh is to go over Ramb. I know our course
is Rambam but I think if you internalize
Ramban's what you might call which
became the mainstream Shittita will then
be able to understand number one how
extraordinary
is the Rambam's
for reformulation
uh and together with Zajon and also why
the people who accused the Rambam of
downgrading toim
actually had a very very strong point
based on what he is going to say in this
letter. So in this very letter defending
his position in a sense he is giving
fuel to the accusations uh about his
position. Okay, you have a wonderful
week and take care.