0:00 / 0:00
Radio Show Tisha B'av 2022 UNEXPECTED
167 views
Project Inspire's mission is to empower committed Jews to take responsibility to create a vibrant and unified Jewish people by sharing the beauty and wisdom of our common heritage with fellow Jews. For more information visit www.ProjectInspire.com. SUBSCRIBE to get the latest from Project Inspire: http://bit.ly/1Ntl9rs Project Inspire on INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/1TiTAYX Like Project Inspire on FACEBOOK: http://on.fb.me/1QmzWIT Follow Project Inspire on TWITTER: http://bit.ly/1S3CYFN
Categories:
Torah
Comments(0)
Transcript
Auto-generated transcript. Not time-synced to the video.
welcome to the show everybody it's
another year as we get to the end
of another Tish above you know every
year when we walk away from a show like
this I I think in our hearts we hope the
next year we get to do this during the
times of gaula
we'll be back here with you again is
bittersweet
we get towards the end of Tish above
as we pass through
teach us that we move into the world of
Hope
we can almost feel the nakama of Shabbat
but we still have
tishaba very much with us
in the world of rochnius
the kadusha only grows and only builds
when you're in the world of physical
the beginning is always the the most
energy and over time it wanes but in the
world of the spiritual is not like that
in the world of spiritual as something
builds it gains strength
the end of Yom Kippur is its strongest
point in the ELA the end of Shabbos the
sadiqam teaches is called derive at the
highest point
in the world of spiritual it only grows
it doesn't wane
and so Tish above now
as our strength physically wanes
our spiritual strength only grows
all of that we have done until now
is sitting on the floor
the moments of where we had a bit of
reflection maybe even a little bit of
Tears
the stories the speeches
the videos
it all culminates in these next two
hours
and so as you may feel less
with less strength physically that's
okay
because the physical strength starts to
go down it only gives expression to more
spirituality
and it's an honor to be with you now
we've got an incredible show
and we're talking about very much the
tissue of topic
of Triumph through tragedy
you know it's amazing when you think
about it
Hashem has us go through tragedy
he has us go through challenge
some could have stepped in and prevented
it
he could have said okay fine you didn't
come back and chew her but I'm not going
to bring this much Soros
it's an amazing thing when you go
through Jewish history
you find this
enables the tragedy unfortunately
and what happens from the tragedy is we
as a nation
somehow find something
that we never had before but for the
tragedy
the nation that we have today
is not the nation that we were before we
grew we adapted we changed
we took things on
the whole concept of the talmud bobly is
a is a is it is an exercise from tragedy
tarshiba alpazid came down in its
different forms it wasn't smooth it
wasn't easy
but it changed us
it it made us into a different people
tragedy challenge
discomfort
it does different things and no one
should ever want it and we should never
have it any longer
it should be the end of tragedy
and it should not come on us or on our
children ever again
when we look backwards
and we see what's happened in the past
we have to look at it from the eyes of
what emerged from tragedy
because the story of tishabo in the last
few hours of Tish above is not the story
of tragedy any longer
the story of Tish above in the last few
hours of Tish above the story of how do
you emerge from tragedy
how do we emerge from destruction
how do we use destruction to rebuild
something bigger
today as we sit on the floor so to speak
for the last few minutes
as we muster whatever strength we have
left we have to focus on this
so that we become more resilient
so that we stand up stronger than we sat
down 24 hours ago
so we teach our children and ourselves
the the way of our forefathers
strengthening merging
being bigger and better through tragedy
so that when we get up this time
hopefully we will never go down again
and the show is going to be all about it
I'm going to begin the show with an
excerpt from the film Project Inspire
create an incredible film this year
about this
Triumph through tragedy
I'm going to talk about it and we've got
of course Jesse Freeman's on his he'll
be on in a moment
my partner over here
we're going to talk with different
guests we have an incredible lineup for
you
but let's begin let's go to the clip in
the clip
was talking about the story of people's
lives
and then this clip in particular it's
about it's about an individual whose
life and if you've seen this film you
you've seen this you've watched it but
this story of someone whose life
completely turns around
and you'll see it happening in just how
his life emerges from try tragedy to
Triumph check this out
[Music]
we sold the house we live by Brooklyn
side in Staten Island
and we moved to uh another and opposite
end of the night by New Jersey side we
thought it was like
far away from everybody we didn't even
realize it was a Jewish neighborhood
we weren't looking for Judaism at that
point in our life we were just looking
to move away run away one day I was I
was headed to Pennsylvania to a place
that I that that we stay in the summer
and
I'm wearing a bright yellow wrestling
tank top with shorts I get on my car at
that point because I wanted to double
check make sure I packed everything I'm
standing in my trunk and all of a sudden
I you know
I see this guy that looks like a rabbi
walking down the street that's his wife
I said to him excuse me what are you
doing here this is I live down the block
I said I'd like to meet your parents he
says Dave sure take the number and he
gave me that number and uh and that was
and he gave me his number I said have a
have a great time my son called me he
tells me mommy uh probably Ruben and
lazy Rubin will come and meet you and
I'm like okay so I'm sitting here
waiting for them sitting waiting waiting
waiting a few nights later at about
nine o'clock and the night I said to my
wife let's take a walk and let's go
visit these people she said it's nine
o'clock you can't I said you know we're
not we'll try
one of my rebellion was
and he at the fledgling stage way before
Ura or anything else
he used to walk around in Staten Island
and look at for Windows during Hanukkah
time
see who had a you know on the windowsill
and he would knock on the door
and ask them what they try to introduce
himself and ask them would they like to
send their son to a Yeshiva he was
sincere and I observed the Headway he
made
so we rang that Bell
I opened the door and I see a couple and
I kind of clipped to me because I didn't
meet anybody else here they told me who
they are and I'm like oh my gosh
how are you what took you so long we've
been waiting for you
and welcome back
we're here we're gonna see a little more
of those clips later on in the show I am
here joined with an individual who I've
sat next to for a very long time Jesse
Friedman is here with us the executive
director project Inspire and the co-host
of this program yes see it is
because it's good to see you and to have
you back I'd rather see you in my
hometown I'd rather be in your hometown
and you shall I am but you know as we
were calling her you mentioned something
to me for those who've been watching
you know you had said this is I think
our 10th year doing this I think it is
our 10th year and it was before email
was created so it's hard to go back you
know and find all the emails and
communication but we started in now from
stegos Studio on the Lower East Side
just on a radio show it's just radio
back then yeah and uh Robey tourski and
his Gail has been uh our hostels yeah
they've been our host and want to thank
them as well yeah uh so Charlie this
this little clip you know amazing this
little clip that you showed is really a
uh we sort of those have been following
the project as participal films we sort
of went back to what we call Outreach
stories with impact meaning you know
many years we've we did a film on
Weinberg as an individual we may have
just that we did a film on on Ronnie
Greenwald and Runway freifeld Etc and
this year we decided to go back to
there's been you know so many incredible
stories that have happened through the
work of projects but more importantly
the work through the regular firm
community and the Outreach efforts that
they've made and really we found two
stories that were not only on message
for us but were Blow Away stories for
all those all those who did not see the
film yet they can get it on
projectinspire.com what happens now
today because today we live in a time
where like you know there's not enough
hours in tishov to watch the Torah and
tissue buff you know I'm saying it used
to be like you went to the shul and
you're out by spoke I think today it's
like 17 000 hours for 24 hours yeah I
think I said it before but somebody sent
that a message saying he already saw two
Holocaust videos and his wedding video
does anyone else have anything else sad
to watch you know so it's been in that
day but it's certainly better than a lot
of other things that people could be
doing but but just be told this film is
really like you mentioned is a story
about a a family who you know throughout
the process of their life things happen
and they had to move and I tried to
pitch myself like you moved to an
unknown neighborhood and Hashem had it
that they fell right into the hands of
not only the from Community but ramesha
Rubin which you know and the rest is
history we really was learning today you
know it's real doing amazing but it just
shows the power of what people uh
knocking on a door and that line which
we're gonna expand a little bit we're
gonna have a pace that cronon later in
the show we're gonna have a double gold
Watcher Mrs Ruth lookingstein we're
gonna have um Nuremberg who you might
not have heard of oh are you kidding me
I'm having night I don't think she said
her name but but the woman who uh
miraculous fell off the cliff survived
the Niagara Cliff um falling Abrahim
Samson of course the family director of
project Inspire many more so stay tuned
we have a long show we have an
incredible guest we have incredible
listen of guests we have a Dr Blumenthal
with us here live in the studio it goes
on and on and and keep watching because
when we're done here like Gary well
esteem is fine this thing we're kakash
cake and orange juice awaits us we'll
get more on Robbie Wallace team later on
in the show oh so Charlie just to go
back to this film you know and I think
that project inspires message over the
years is very unique because there's
many Outreach organizations and they're
all they do all amazing work you know as
well the uniqueness of project Inspire
is that we want the religious community
from Community not only to facilitate
here which is to be a Shabbos host and
to learn one-on-one with harusa but also
to generate care of activity reach out
to the people they see go knock on the
door like you saw in that film right go
get the people who otherwise have no
road back that's what we're trying to
create and so this film is very much
that uh that was the one piece of the
film but the other piece which we're
going to leave to our viewers to watch
on their own again for those who still
have not uh project inspired.com I just
want you to reviewers to take this down
as well we can you can WhatsApp us live
over here you can WhatsApp us live at
718-285-0995-718-285-0995 or radio at
projectinspiring.com you can email us
live uh if you have any messages
anything to share any comments or things
that you would like us to mention here
on the show feel free we're we're
standing by the back story of the what
we'll call the Surfside piece is was our
convention
um where we asked Martin langsfield
whose boy who's featured in this film to
come in and we sort of have to remind
people because this is fortunately we're
unfortunately is how we work is that the
Surfside collapse while you know it's
sort of in our rear view mirror is very
real to a lot of people especially to
someone like Martin so at our convention
we had Martin langsville there and
before Martin came on we actually played
a clip over there which we call the
Surfside club which brings us back to
that day which is just a little bit more
than a year ago back into Surfside
Florida let's see that clip
part of Surfside Florida condominium
building Came Crashing Down collapsing
into a pile of rubber
[Music]
firefighters risking their own lives
searching for possible victims and even
now officials fear the rest of this
building could come down at any time
foreign
Jewish communities across the state are
praying and sending support to everyone
in pacted by the Surfside condo collapse
while many of the families affected by
the collapse were of Jewish faith they
say the donations here at the shul of
bal Harbor are for everyone affected
tell us what we're seeing here we had
truckloads of people bringing so many
supplies such an airport helping out the
people that really need anything and
that's what we're here for they took
this little snack bar at the community
center and they turned it into this
Bistro that eventually delivered 3 000
kosher meals a day to families awaiting
word of their loved ones and First
Responders
an Israeli search team is also on the
ground helping miami-dade's Urban search
and rescue Force very still hope always
and I hope that we will succeed it was a
deeply emotional ceremony tonight filled
with Applause and gratitude as the
Israeli Crews prepare to leave and
family members had a chance to thank
First Responders face to face
[Music]
foreign
[Music]
it's painful
you just wish you were in a dream
sometimes strong words from Martin
langsfeld who lost his sister and his
brother-in-law in the Surfside condo
collapse
foreign
[Music]
while this is so powerful so you played
this at the convention and Martin was
there Martin was there and he speaks now
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bore you
with the speech we have a long show here
but it's worth watching if the film is
there but at the end of his speech at
the convention he went off script and
that's for you Charlie I almost had a
heart attack you know what I'm saying
like you know every minute Off Script
and he he turns to the crowd and he
talks to the way I mean this is a guy
who lost his sister lost everything and
saw the firm Community as he saw in the
film rally around right and the rest of
it is in the film and he turns to the
crowd I want to play this it's a short
clip of how he turns directly to the
crowd at the convention and speaks
directly to them
and before I finish up and say thank you
to everyone here for listening to me and
say we will never forget Surfside
these past two days we heard many
speakers
from all parts of the world
with many different professional
respectful backgrounds
and when they finish speaking everyone
in the crowd gets up clapsed and admires
the person speaking
that's not the reason I'm here I'm not
here so you can clap for me and for my
story
I'm here because of you
so when I finish up now and I say thank
you I want you all to clap and look at
the person next to you and saying thank
you to them
because you all make a difference and I
really mean it you guys are amazing so
thank you everyone
wow yeah and that's the message I mean
that message is you are all amazing
because it's the people in that room and
it's the people all around us that
really make that difference and Charlie
before I move on I want to thank for
your first little mint media Maisha
Schindler and his team for a spectacular
film The Unexpected film of course
Danielle Haas who worked the entire
production and all the work the back end
work I want to thank daily giving for
everything that they do I mean they were
all over the film I just want to point
out for those watching that
um Jonathan donath reached out to me
today said there isn't a single partner
event that's non-daily giving event that
has generated this many signups both the
last year so really it's unbelievable
and of course Torah anytime I mean could
we can we move on with Tisha but without
uh mentioning Torah anytime who uh who
really are all over the place so thank
you to all of you and that's really a
story that's the back story of the film
of unexpected before we move on I want
to just make one point that I don't I
think we take this for granted and I
think this is I think one of the things
we mistaken we spoke about Triumph from
tragedy the reason why we can do Triumph
from tragedy is because we do it
together and I think as a community we
just sort of assume that you know
recently I was talking to a friend of
mine who lost somebody close to him and
he was explaining like the whole
experience of loss was like his like 12
close family and I'm trying to explain
to them would somebody lose someone in
the Jewish Community like there's a
million people that roll through that
person's life and he couldn't even
believe that we know a million people
I'm like I don't we don't know them
directly but we're so interconnected
like it's in it we take that for granted
that what has what gets us through what
Martin said at the end is something that
we were like what and I I don't want to
I don't wanna I don't want to just run
through it I want to like pause it for a
second and we all need to like take a
deep breath and appreciate that like
we're part of a web of incredibleness in
the fact that we're all in it together
you know and that's Charlie really
that's that's the point and they would
that's what he was trying to bring out
he's like I didn't even know you guys I
didn't even know you guys I don't know
who you I don't even know that these
people existed in my backyard but when I
needed you you were there for you you
were there that's how we roll you know
we've got a great guest on Dr Norm
blumenthal's with us in the in the
studio Dr lumenthal is a licensed
clinical psychologist who serves as the
Director of trauma services for old
oil's actors oh hells zachter family
National trauma center and adjunct
professor at the rabbi Isaac and
Theological Seminary and farkov Graduate
School of psychologists both of you
University
in private practice in Cedarhurst doctor
in New York Dr lumenthal is also the
founder and chairman of the board of
education for kahal and the past vice
president of nephish Dr Blumenthal
welcome to the show you are a busy man
doing incredibly good things for the
Jewish people okay it's an honor to be
part of this thank you so much for being
here we're talking about really trying
from tragedy and and maybe help us
understand both the concept of trauma
and tragedy I know it's impossible to
ask you in a few minutes of a radio show
at the end of tishop of nonetheless but
maybe create if you can some context of
what people go through and how some
people can sort of emerge out of it
stronger okay so the type of trauma that
you're talking about there are many
different types of trauma but the type
of trauma you'll talk about is that
sudden unpredictable event we thrive on
redundancy unpredictability and life is
predominantly predictable I'm redundant
every once in a while there is that
curveball every once in a while there's
that bump in the road and very often
those are tragic and painful and what
people that of course throws all of us
off and and takes away from us our sense
of trust and predictability and we have
to sort of rewrite the script the very
sort of re sometimes I call it
redesigning the landscape of our world
to incorporate and make sense of this
tragedy and that's a lot of what you're
talking about today
so how does one do that how does one I
know it's it's complicated but just for
a few minutes how well let me say easier
how how did we do it sort of
collectively what what are some of the
lessons that you see when you look at
the world you look at it from a
different lens than the rest of us
because you have a professional lens you
look at so what when you see people that
have thrived in these unpredictable
worlds that that have come at them what
do they have you know what like you know
it's like what was the secret what was
the sauce that they had that made them
stronger and not weaker right so uh it's
interesting sometimes people ask me how
I can do all this work and tragedy and
with loss Etc and one of the answers I
give them is I don't just see tragedy
and loss I I see a lot of strength I see
a lot of resilience and I see a lot of
love and companionship I see a lot of
people rallying together to help one
another and that kind of balances it
makes it even tolerable for me so that
doesn't erode my sense of safety and
predictability but we we do have have
inherently a capacity to Hashem gave us
those strengths it's a little bit like
the referral for the marker we have
enormous capacities to adjust and adapt
uh obviously the first reaction is one
of shock and horror but the shock and
horror is necessary in fact sometimes
when I have to I'm present either when
something just happened or if I do a
death notification and the person is
having that horror and that shock
response and the people around them want
them they're trying to get him stop and
I've come no they need that they need
that that's to shake things up that's
sort of to bring in that realization
that the world that they lived in until
now is now different and then comes the
healing now the healing a lot of it
comes from with inside a lot of it comes
from not people giving them advice and
telling them what to do but from just
being there for them just enveloping
them with love and care and not treating
them like they have a communicable
disease and a lot of it does come from a
traditional culture or from culture in
general
that there is a that there's a Concept
in psychological post-traumatic growth
and we see it universally among all
people a lot of studies after 9 11
particularly by Tadashi and Calhoun
showed how people will change their
lives as a result of it having gone
through a tragedy but the nature of the
change is very much determined by your
background and your culture and what
you've been taught
feel that so much of yiddishkite is
getting you towards that and what we
have I think culturally injuries and I
think also conceptually in terms of the
different the information and how what
we what what we're learning in the moon
does that all translate so to speak into
into that picture I will tell you three
facts first of all spirituality does
spirituality elevates you beyond what's
happening immediately spirituality means
you believe there is an ultimate good
even if it feels bad now I just heard
this morning
that that way you know why do we
associate the suffering from the urban
to the birth pains because yes the woman
is suffering but everybody who's in the
waiting room knows this about something
very happy is about to happen so knowing
that that concept is important the unity
the sense of belonging it's very
interesting I was once speaking to the
head chaplain of New York City Police
Department and she told me that police
have much more what we call secondary
trauma which is a trauma of the helpers
much more second day trauma than
firefighters and you'd wonder why they
both deal with tragedy but she explained
that in the police department precinct
this squad car goes here this squad car
goes there the firefighters go as a unit
and come home as a unit and that's what
we do is from Jews we live together we
work with a unit the other thing by the
way that cannot be downplayed is our
masara a tradition research shows that
people who know about ancestry will know
about their background have more
resilience than those who don't yeah and
particularly those who where the
narrative the family narrative is one
what we call the oscillating narrative
which is one of hardship overcoming it
in the heart of overcoming it well let's
go through safer braces yeah there's a
lot of that and so therefore having that
tradition and having that sense of
ancestry yeah we just went through it
feels like in very in very much the way
what we went through in little kids
learning from their parents that they're
sitting on the floor and today I wasn't
sure in the morning and they're going
through the stories of when the mother's
eating babies and they're kids in the
world I'm thinking there are kids in the
room like why are you saying this for
this he's 12. but like he's got it and
like the 12 year old like hears it and
he becomes 15 and 18 and like you said
and then he goes in he's here he sits at
a Seder and they say be sham dashem
takes care of it like if you just look
at our calendar there's all these like
we oscillate as as a people both on a an
annual cycle and on a historical cycle
I've always come out on the same day
look at that look at that though
interestingly you know we obviously went
through this in the in the in the in the
project inspired film but it's it's
common where people take a tragedy that
happened to them and they they sort of
go they take it to the to another level
whereas they start to become ambassadors
or spokespeople for for that cause is
that something that's considered a
healthy I know people are doing it is
that is that a way to cope is does that
go beyond that I mean there's some
people who want to become this you know
promote the cause but then it's sort of
like falls off and then there are those
who are really able to make I mean we we
ourselves no organizations that were
built on on tragedies right well I
should tell you something interesting
besides as I was mentioned besides
running the trauma department for oil
which is really because my primary
function I teach at DC Universe I teach
medical students and I teach a course on
bereavement for these future rabbis and
the way I structure the courses is one
week is lecture and one week I invite
someone who suffered loss and an
atypical loss a loss of an infant loss
of a child sibling a young widowhood
even parents who lost a child to suicide
and they meet with the students and when
I first started this when I first would
ask some of these people to to come and
present to my students I was worried you
know what they'd want to you know would
have open up a wound would they be
hesitant to open talk so personally in
front of strangers not only have I never
gotten a no but when I called them
afterwards to thank them they say they
want to thank me because again they're
feeling they're doing something in
memory of their loved one they're taking
the tragedy and they're doing something
constructive with it which is a tribute
to the loved one who died so I think
that's exact exact example I think it's
very healthy and probably one of the
most common forms of post-traumatic
growth is the wish to help others who
are in the same predicament is it
something that we can take away as we
get the end of Tish above as you put the
pieces together of the national tragedy
that we have
and like you said the predictability of
life and the need of that can can
somebody do something today
to to make them more resilient to build
the resilience muscle hopefully if
everything's okay you know saying like
hopefully we go to the shop is
but like in this process if you will can
people hear this and what can they do to
be more resilient in general so you know
they they often a trip this Rama Manuel
but it really Winston Churchill who said
that a Christ is a terrible thing to
waste
um and a tissue is a terrible thing to
waste and if we're going to walk away
from this heart-wrenching day in our
calendar the same we were before
um it was a crisis wasted that doesn't
mean we have to do something Monumental
small little increments little changes
sometimes more uh lasting and more
important than our bricks that we build
to make ourselves stronger and better
people but again I would focus on all
the issues that I mentioned I have
spirituality how much do we Infuse
Hashem and our belief in Hashem and that
Hashem ultimately is doing is heading Us
in the right direction how much we
Infuse that into our conversations into
our education how much are we connecting
to others how much are we refraining
from being judgmental and critical but
connecting to others and solidifying the
community how much are we talking about
our heritage and our background amazing
yeah I mean this is a day this is a day
where you know sometimes people take it
to two extremes either it sort of goes
by as a waste or
or people want to take on too much right
you know and then it falls away and I
think this goes to the point of like
like you mentioned small things small uh
you know thinking about the small things
that'll it'll hopefully stick right and
then we'll make next to next dish above
yeah it's so amazing as I'm hearing
speaking thinking about all the parts of
how the Yiddish kite is like preparing
us for resilience and how it's a normal
way of saying No this is the latest
Hashem is like putting into the our
whole way all the and we just have to be
aware of it appreciate it and keep on
running with it right because he's
preparing us to be a resilient people
it's an amazing concept how science is
catching up the Hashem it's great when
that happens right and I'll tell you
once we in in this class and why I we
brought in someone had terrible tragedy
I want to specify because maybe she
doesn't want to be quoted and the guys
asked her is there anything in Torah
that gives you inspiration and she said
yes say fabricious and this is not a
fancy Robinson who appears on your show
you know
gonna but she had a terrible tragedy and
and he said because you know the others
that she put it that they didn't walk on
water they didn't move mountains you
know they lived regularized but they had
every tragedy one could think of
uprootings warfare uh family Strife
infertility the uh death during
childbirth you name it they had it and
they they felt the emotions the emotions
are enumerated they faced them and they
triumphed over them and that's her
inspiration that's what keeps her going
wow
doctor thank you so much for joining us
my pleasure honor to be here and thank
you so much that I'm hungry
it's part of the idea that's why we do
this right yeah and by the way just
while we're on it our Hawaii is really
get the credit for this because they're
at home not only you know hungry
themselves with the hungry kids and
everything they don't have the husbands
crutching
one down
thank you thank you so much thank you
wow that was amazing and I think it's so
important to hear what he was saying to
hear the doctor's words and that as we
as we as we move into the world of
Triumph from challenge to see that the
Torah has given us so many pieces to
this it's what he was saying is
unbelievable and he was quoting the
science behind it but when you think and
he said this when you think through how
the Torah has been giving us the frame
for this for so many years it's it shows
just so how much
you know Hashem is building us into the
nation that we're supposed to be really
I mean that and that's it and that's it
and how small things meaning safe
operations didn't happen in the day
either yeah you know it was a building
it was building blocks you know but I
would I there's one part that that I I
want to double click on first of all the
stuff that we spoke about earlier that I
just want to make sure that we're
reviewing
the the peoplehood like this is really a
big deal like and we can't take it for
granted that we're one nation we hook
each other up and he said at the empathy
that being there for each other but it's
also the ability to lash around the
world to drop you know I'm saying like
when you let Hashem Run the World a
little bit like you start to see
whatever's going on I hope we should
only have good things and everything
should be wonderful you have to see
everything in your life as being
connected to something greater and it
helps get through and I think that was
the message we started with even with
even with the film where like you know
why did this happen was it was is there
a light at the end of the tunnel not
every not every tragedy sees oh I get it
you know it's like it was because of
this you know right sometimes you do get
to see it and that's an inspiration for
the times that you don't see it right
you know okay I want to go uh on Zoom we
have with us Samson of course the
founding director of project Inspire
who's been with us I think every show
for 10. I think so it's 10 years 10
years I think is the cat is the Cal
Ripken award I think yeah
you know we're speaking about not only
the film which was really what a quote
unexpected
um I just want to remind the viewers
again that radio or projectinspire.com
or you can WhatsApp us at
718-285-0995 uh for your questions
comments and things you'd like us to
speak about on the show everybody was
thinking about the film unexpected and
the concept of things happening in
people's lives they really throw things
off kilter and you think sort of like
where do you go from here like there's
no there's nowhere to go from here and
yet Hashem running the world and you
know people dealing with things like Dr
Bloomfield just mentioned to be able to
you know to grow to grow from that
unexpected or uh unwanted we'll call it
called it post-traumatic growth
post-traumatic growth right now that we
know the technical term of his Amazon
that'll help you you your take on the on
this message and the message of the film
yeah I mean listen I I have to say as
I'm hearing all of this and thinking
about it and the prophes and the
response that we've had from people
um is incredible it has really touched
something inside of people that it's so
deep it's so real it's so personal and
profound and the question is really you
know and that's why so what exactly is
that so one of the things and there's
many many different aspects but one of
the things that reminds me of and you
know in my capacity is as you know a
founding director of project inspired
professional resolver to have a 26 year
relationship with North Weinberg and I
think we all know that what he would
share with people yes he was into Kira
but I think the most basic message that
he gave to everybody was that you have
to see that the Roberto shot allows you
all all the time his love is streaming
through every second
and it may not be in the ways that you
expect you know it's unexpected and and
what is greatness in life a great person
is somebody who's able to see that even
times of difficulty you feel and you see
and you understand that a country boy
whose love is coming through and you
make the right decisions based on that
and I think that's what gives real
greatness in life and I I may have
shared this people previous times but
one time I remember and it was a very
profound moment I was walking down with
with the receiver of North weinberg's
itself in Manhattan and I you know he
was my ready I would share everything
with him and I remember there was
something a difficult thing that was
going on in my life and I was
complaining you know we choose we could
complain and he stopped in the middle of
the street and he looked at me and he's
a big man and he started shouting me is
it high in you're crazy and they said I
I was very taken I said why did you
think if the things don't go the way you
want Hashem doesn't love you you're
crazy it he does love you it's just not
going the way that you'd expect and he
said it was such a power and a force it
got through somehow into my being a
little bit a little bit that you know
what just understand that you may not
see the sun behind the clouds but it's
there it's really there and I think that
that's what you know in my life I've
seen that and I think that this is what
comes from this film is that when you
feel that when you're able to be real
with the fact that Hashem really loves
it it's his love is behind it and and
this difficult situation is is yes it is
difficult and we don't want to take away
the pain and we want to feel the people
when they go through difficult
situations that's part of caring and
that's what we saw ottom in the film but
in in in terms of our ability to realize
that and I think that you know you see
that with with Martin so much you know
that he's I mean to the extent that you
know it was what a painful situation he
was able in himself and if you know
Martin and broccoli's become a very
close friend and I speak to him you know
a couple of times a week but in Israel
how's he doing you know he has that
within him that feeling of you know of
course the pain will never go away and
he says that on the film The Pain never
goes away you know but how you
understand that there's goodness there
and that you can grow from and he in a
very courageous way has done that has
felt that goodness and that love of God
and of people and made some incredible
decisions based on you know and Charlie
this goes to your point as well which is
that you know as always Sam's mentioning
is that like you know you're never alone
in this as well I mean what he felt was
that it's not only like you know Hashem
running the world which he might not
have come to yet but he but he sees the
community that he never knew existed you
know giving giving giving and more
importantly you know it's there is
there's there's a concept of of of him
seeing the individuals within the group
as well that means you know it's not
lost on him that oh there's this group
called the religious communities every
single person who is there to help him
we're gonna speak to him and Sam said a
second ago I mean just to double click
on it is that this is what he said
earlier about part of the way that you
overcome and you have post-traumatic
growth
is the Allowing God to run the world
right and that sort of Noah's Point like
let God do what God does like stop
playing chess you know what I'm saying
like that's how it works uh you know
Charlie anytime anyone gave to Austin
for proxa you give the brother and he
would always add every time yeah and you
should know that the almighty loves you
right he would every time add that
because that was the greatest rocket in
life because you see beyond the pain and
the difficulty and appreciate that yeah
you're you're gonna be great and that's
very true yeah you know excellent um
and that's the I think the message that
I think is critical here those two
pieces to it the other that was the
second piece was the people the caring
of people like Alyssa and and Rabbi
um Ruben you know that Karen that's the
magic combination when you feel her
son's love and you see it together with
people around you that magic potion of
singing in people and feeling it
together with it with the revolution
there's there's nothing that if we have
that we change the whole world but
that's all and that's what we're trying
to do so we're gonna let you go in a
minute I just wanted to make one point
said in the film Martin says the line he
says he's going to Yeshiva not only to
learn Torah but to learn more about what
is it that makes this community do what
they do show the love that they are good
very good all right Samson have an easy
rest of the fact I'll see you again next
year we'll hope we have you on the show
by uh overlooking the base I make this
message I'm looking forward to being
there with you guys thank you so much
thank you very much again this is really
this has really been the message yeah
you said we're never alone because we
have everybody you know just along those
lines Charlie is that you know in in the
film you see the community even on the
film that we showed here you see the
community coming together not only the
davening for people and the giving the
food the soup kitchens all that you know
you have people coming together and
organizations you know
Isaac Rose you know our good friend and
a real partner with project Inspire is
fond of saying if if less religious
people would only know how many
organizations they are in the in the
front community that are are just
looking to give give right for sure what
the beaker hole in this and the the
cancer organizations
I mean I'll tell you for one more I have
a friend of mine who lost his father's
his name is Ronan fuchsburg I think he
was on the show or yeah he's a good
friend of mine and he lost his father
he's a great guy so I went to paycheva
call to him
and his father was an incredible person
and he buried him married to Israel you
know he said to me he goes you know what
gave him the Hummer we take this for
granted he said I landed in Israel
and his family they're all and his shirt
was ripped because he's Landing to bury
his father
and he gets off the plane in Israel and
strangers are going you know
he doesn't over there and then he's
sitting at the thing he said he goes to
become sitting at the they're trying to
get food he said some random guy came up
to him and said why are you all sitting
he goes what do you mean he's like just
sit there and he went and got them food
because he's like he just put it
together he's like wait you're sitting
there and and Ronan said to me he's like
I'm sitting in Israel and I don't know
anybody and everyone has
you know why because they're part of
this nation that cares and he got it and
it was nahama because nakama is this
feeling of We're All in This Together
and when you have that we can take on
the whole wide world and that's why we
take on the whole wide world that's
right and by the way on that note we
have with us on the phone uh nadav ALK
boy
uh who is a member of hatsala in in uh
Surfside yep wow and there he is
speaking
people thank you welcome to the show
um thank you so much for having me I
just want to correct I'm not a member of
uh hatsala I'm just a Community member
I'm actually just to start off real
quickly the title of what I was in
Surfside
um I didn't really know my role you know
we had had to lie you had IDF there you
had the Red Cross so many professionals
there and I just put my position as
citizen
um so I'll just consider myself as a
neighbor and a citizen even better not
have even better you know we act we we
as you know as you know we put together
a presentation where a boy who went
through the tragedy that he went through
was super inspired by via what do you
call yourself a citizen by citizen by
citizens like you citizens who we never
knew citizens who came together to show
the love and the outpour of help and
love from the community looking back now
that I've explained to us what the what
the scene was what it was like getting
involved in that and uh and and you know
what it meant for you
certainly I first of all want to start
by saying thank you for having me here
um giving me the platform to share this
story and what Surfside really went
through
um so what happened was in June 24th um
tragically the Champlain south tower has
um collapse and more than that we lost
our neighbors
um immediately um and it was really sad
situation I have family that lives in
Israel and of course recently with the
war that's happening now or I guess
there was a ceasefire my heart and my
thoughts were always with the people of
Israel um but for the first time the
rules was was reversed my brother's a
lone soldier and in the middle of the
night my phone rang and then it rang
again it was around three o'clock in the
morning I worked the next day and my
phone was keep on ringing for my brother
who was in Israel I called I was like I
answered the phone and you know what
time it is and he told me Nadal are you
okay a building collapse in Surfside so
usually when I you know I'm always
thinking so much about what's happening
in Israel for the first time Israel was
thinking about what's happening in our
community
um so then that's when I I quickly got
dressed uh the building is just a couple
blocks away from the house on my house
on Collins Avenue and I remember walking
towards the scene and I'm seeing hot
Salam members with their backpacks in
the middle of the night running toward
the scene along me
um of course the roads were blocked a
fire rescue had everything blocked so I
went towards the beach and that's where
I saw the flashlights looking through
the debris and the smell is a smell that
will never forget
um it stays with me until today but
there was another scene not just where
the collapse was or as they call it the
pile but also the reunification center
it's at the Surfside Community Center
which is right across the street from me
and that's where all the families were
told to go all the you know the loved
ones of the families that were involved
were waiting for their families
um they filed the police reports and
missing people reports and that's when I
found a police officer and asked them
what can I do to help right
I want to stop I want to stop you right
the AC for you it was so simple to walk
over to a police officer and say what
could I do to help but you realize that
there are and and this is what Charlie
was was saying earlier on the show is
that we as a nation somehow are able to
come together and and make that move of
what can I do and without even realizing
without even realizing it be able to
inspire so many people looking on and in
this case obviously Martin watching all
of you get involved what made you step
up you could have easily gone home and
say oh this is a terrible tragedy I'm
sure someone's going to take care of
this
I don't know if it was so easy for me to
come home it happened right across the
street from me um the roads were blocked
so no one can really come in and it
wasn't just me who said what can I do to
help I remember it was Rabbi lipsker um
from Surfside right there with all the
security guards who usually protect the
synagogue this is the security guards
were helping as well where you had the
console general of Israel
Florida and Puerto Rico he was there as
well it was all the community neighbors
those that had no connection they were
there to help and it was one of the
times I learned that this horrible
tragedy happened but how the whole
Community came together public officials
you had the mayor there you had Congress
the Senator's office was there it was
really a team effort from every
institution every neighbor every
organization to just help the neighbors
out and it was just the right thing to
do what's amazing and what's amazing
that we're talking about is this idea of
triumph over tragedy right and we're
we're identifying ways in which we do it
and how we've survived throughout the
years and how uh we each of us have to
continue to become greater and greater
and what we're hearing from you who is
sort of who is there live at one of the
tragedies that took place in the past
year year for us as a community as a
larger Jewish Community really is the
scene of what takes place in these
moments of where people come out and say
where can I be placed
what did that feel like I know the
moving the tragedy to the side for a
second right I want to move into the
triumph right what did it feel like to
be on the ground and to be looking right
and left and seeing
people from every background sort of
unified around this cause and this
purpose
and that's exactly what I had to do put
their tragedy to the side they were two
situations one had no control over it
wasn't in my hand and another one there
was something that I can do about it of
course what happened with the building
collab to the surgeon and rescue efforts
that's why the IDF was there that's why
we had the Miami-Dade rescue and
firefighters from all around the country
but really where I had control over was
what's happening in the community center
and it wasn't easy it was difficult and
not many people know I've never cried
harder in my life than during that time
I this couch behind me wasn't a ball and
cried but when I was around the families
when I was around my neighbors you have
to be strong for them because when you
see a girl crying stopping she lost
everything she had in her life her
family doesn't know where they are
that's real pain and I will never
understand that because that wasn't me
going through that situation but I just
wanted to be the rock I want to take
that all in the motion and observe
absorb it and just be there for them and
bring any positivity I can into a
negative situation but it was never
about me it was just about my neighbors
the lesson of Love Thy Neighbor really
came to life during this experience and
I hope every community that goes through
you know problems like in Tennessee
today will learn what's happening that
happened in Surfside where we put
everything aside and just focus on how
can we help those that are going through
a difficulty well that was very simple
amazing I just want to let you know
we're gonna have to go here but I just
want to let you know that from an
Outsiders effective you and everyone
else down there was a major inspiration
to everybody looking on from the outside
especially to Martin who as you know has
made significant changes in his life
because of that inspiration so I want to
thank you on behalf of really Chloe
Israel for the work that you did down
there may you continue to show the
strength that you needed down there and
and really realize that the Surfside
tragedy and then ultimately the whole
office is a Beacon of Hope for the rest
of us and the street oh that were in
front of the building the renamed the
streets to 98 Rays of Hope or 98 rays of
light and I think that's what we all can
get hope right
um when we are together as a community
or neighbors the strongest winds won't
be able to bring us down right we'll
always Prevail and that's what happened
here we'll continue to do so amen thank
you so much thank you I mean this is
this is what you know this is what he's
saying is a guy like him doesn't even
realize how he's one guy but when you
look at everyone all these individual
citizens when you look at them all
together this is a you know we all the
world was looking on you know we saw
this happen we saw them step to play the
world saw it yeah you know yeah you know
we're uh we're joined Now by you know
we're on the topic here obviously of
triumphing through tragedy uh and of
course we have with us uh a friend
friend dear friend Dave gressen is here
with us and uh Dave you've uh you told
me inspiration to all I mean Davis is
the greatest inspiration to all of us
um we've I think we've been on both
sides of the you know both sides of the
world uh together Israel back at home
um it's always you're on our first trip
yes that's right our first momentum trip
he was on amazing amazing with project
Inspire amazing
so you know Dave you you have a story
where
um it wasn't too long ago at least one
of the uh episodes wasn't too long ago
where we were obviously concerned but
you having gone through what you went
through uh really gave you strength and
gave the people around you the ability
to step up for you as well
yes
um yeah so right so and um so first of
all thank you for having me here on okay
uh thank you
um and
in 2018
um
uh after listening to my sister yeah
I'll stop just step back I don't know
how much how long I have but I'll try to
keep it quick
[Music]
um
prior to 2018 I had a trouble breathing
through through my nose and I just
figured it was no big deal and it'll
just go away so after
um uh
complaining about it for about a year my
sister said why don't you just finally
go to ENT and just figure out what's
wrong
so in the summer of 2018 I went to an
ENT
and uh he he examined me and he said you
have a deviated septum and a polyp
so he said no big deal you come back
we'll take care of it
so I went back
um went through the procedure woke up he
said uh good news is I fixed your
deviated septum he said bad news is it's
not a polyp he says it's above my pay
grade I need to send you to Lenox Hill
in the city and take a look at it
so I went to linuxil they did a biopsy
and turned out I had a stage four
um sinus cancer it's called Snook snuc
so I looked it up
um and it has a very very low survival
rate so uh at that time
um you know I uh with my wife we were
trying to figure out you know exactly
what to do and
um it was because of you
it was because of you and because of
that gentleman over there yaakov vinegar
and all of the people that I have
learned with and my Rabbi Mendel telden
um
I
knew that listen this is what I was
given with
I couldn't of
um there was nothing that I could have
done that to prevent the cancer there
was nothing that I I could do now I have
the cancer the what I could do is I can
decide how I'm going to handle it by
myself I could crawl up in a ball I
could cry I could say oh my God you know
this this is it it's the end or I can be
positive and I could keep a positive
mindset and I could listen to everything
that the doctors tell me to do and do it
two times over
and that's what we decided to do so I
kept positive
um I kept strong uh the first treatment
that I had was right after
um uh the holidays in December
I go to my first radiation treatment in
the morning this is 2009. this is 2019
and I walk in and I'm a little bit
nervous there I'm there with about a
half a dozen guys and walk in to get my
first treatment and who's there Rabbi
Mendel telden is sitting in a chair
right right there waiting for me
does a little prayer I go in and and we
took of it so we you know we and I say
we it was me my wife my family
um went through every day I had
treatments one day through uh radiation
Monday through Thursday every Friday was
chemotherapy my second chemotherapy
session I was with my mom and with my
wife
and I had a bad reaction to the cancer
drug and I went into anaphylactic shock
and that was the crazy scene
and
um but I never lost hope
um I always mean strong and when you're
talking about people rallying around you
so Josh Brody from
um Far Rockaway Josh Brody sure uh uh he
put together a WhatsApp group
and I can't tell you how many people
joined it it was all the guys on our
trips all the friends that we've made
through this well the rabbis that we've
met uh and every day every day didn't
miss a day of all of my treatments there
would be uh something that he would put
out there for us to learn everybody
would go ahead and participate in it
through through a WhatsApp chat and it
just kept me strong everybody rallying
around me keeping me strong thank God
and uh wow Dave you know this is this is
the the personal version of the of the
national story I'm wondering to you I
mean you know you didn't grow up
religious
and this is fairly new you said your
first trip was with Charlie in 2018.
what was your take on the fact that like
people who you just recently became
friendly with you know are rallying
around you in a way where like you know
it might have been a you know like why
are they so into this why are they so in
like this is my tragedy like what was
your reaction to their willingness and
their you know to mention brother
beating you to the hospital you know
it was incredible it's it's nothing you
know hopefully it's nothing anybody will
ever experience
um but but if somebody has to go through
a chat tragedy
um you have to surround yourself with
positive people
um and I've been blessed uh to have met
everybody through project Inspire and
through Chabad and you know and and the
friends that we've made and uh they all
rallied around me and not only did they
rally around me they brought their
friends and their families to Rally
around me and it was just uh it was just
incredible the the love and the
outpouring that they had for me and my
family it absolutely
um absolutely got me through this I
started out with a half a dozen guys
um the thing that I I wanted to do
really strongly is two things one my dad
died when he was 55. okay I had I got
the cancer when I was 52. I wanted to
make it to 55 in one day at least okay
second thing is I didn't want a feeding
tube
um uh because that was something that
that they said you're going to have and
I just didn't want a feeding tube
and I'm telling you the positivity the
rallying around me
um the mindset the belief uh lit you
know just doing every and and having the
belief that that Hashem definitely had
my back
every one of the other guys they all
have feeding tubes
um they gave into it they they you know
they just did it and thank God you know
I never had to experience that that's it
feels to me that that's the strength
meaning the strength was
like the way the way the doctor said it
earlier was that we have the strength to
overcome challenge it's hard to bring
out the strength but when we have people
around us and we believe in a greater
purpose like with Hashem on top and
everybody around what it does is it it
draws out that natural strength that you
had inside you but that really can't
come out without everyone around you
absolutely I mean it I am
a True Believer I mean it's ever you
know everything that that I've learned
through through all everything through
through you guys
um it it all came to fruition and uh it
was just amazing and the thing with the
doctor said also is is how people
um you know from that you become an
ambassador for you know for for the
tragedy that you've been through is one
of the things that I've been blessed
with now is that um whenever anyone is
going through my doctor just texted me
three days ago
um and he said I have a woman sitting in
my office right now she's going through
she she just got diagnosed with sinus
cancer can you please speak with her wow
so and I'm like absolutely you know so
and I've I thank you know thank God I've
been able to help other people going
through you know what their things and
you know you could look at me so I got
all my hair back you know thank God I'm
healthy uh you know and uh here to speak
with you guys amazing amazing listen
Mason thank you for for joining us on
the show
um and your story is the like we said
the personal version of the of the well
what is above is really it's that moment
where
you have that tragedy but it's the
communal getting together the actas it's
the belief in God it's the belief in
each other is Our God's way of saying
you have you have it in you to bring
Google you have it in you to to fix this
and your story is is the personal proof
of that so we appreciate it and no thank
you we thank you for the strength that
you show and the strength that you have
and I am sure that you do not only share
you know helps the other patients
um who the doctor diagnosis but he helps
other Jews recognize that yeah that this
exists in the Jewish nation and Jewish
people brings other people to be
involved as well to get them to see what
what he's experienced as well amazing
amazing Dave thank you so much you
continue to be a strength for your
people around you and the whole world
and the whole nation that that you have
continued to uplift right back
thank you so much Dave you know as as we
move on with this uh with this message
this very message which is really how we
as a we as a nation come together
um through tragedy and this has been the
story of this is like you know what he
like he said safer places you know we um
I want to show a clip today as everyone
knows project witness has a beautiful
video this app the sequel devorah's hope
uh which is an amazing video and
incredible kudos to gee Orman and his uh
and Mrs Lichtenstein who is such a
tremendous push for this type of
education please joining us shortly I
want to show a short clip which will
give you an idea they called it a docu
drama it's a cross between a documentary
and a drama film which is dramatized
um let's go to the clip of devorah's
Hope and we'll be joined afterwards by
Ruth lichenstein
my mother was in one of the most
infamous Force labor camps in this area
where they work with ammunitions for the
Germans and she says that it was so
bitter called the metal got stuck to her
skin
one day Menachem escaped from karchef
and when it came to radum he found out
that if anyone was left they must be in
this first they become
now a Polish woman came into the first
labor camp to talk to dvora and this
polish woman was asked by Menachem
and so she came in to direct her how to
escape the camp
[Music]
go go go
[Music]
laughs
I can't believe it's you
better watch out
come on let's go
I want you to understand the Courage the
devotion the dedication to the only
sisters that was left he knows that
either he saves her or that's it
they stayed by this woman whom my mother
said more than once and more than twice
that not only is that she made sure that
they should have where to hide and what
to eat but she was the one who
always reminded them
how much respect she has for Judaism
we're joined here that incredible film
that you're seeing is a film called
devorah's hope we're joined here now
with Mrs Ruth Lichtenstein she's the
publisher of hamadia the largest
Orthodox newspaper in the world and I've
been a magazine a magazine for women
she's the founder and director of
project witness editor-in-chief of
witness to history a nation by Nation
history of the Holocaust the publisher
journalist and Electro she holds an M.A
in Jewish history and is written
extensively unused on the Jewish
experience in the Holocaust and lectures
internationally Mrs listening welcome to
the show
thank you it's an honor to have you on
and thank you for such an incredible
incredible film
yesterday Friedman here welcome to the
show I want to ask you I know that for
years and years you've been making films
writing stories about Holocaust
Survivors very powerful films
um different jewelries of Polish jewelry
and Hungarian jewelry what does it mean
to you however to make a film about your
own mother uh what type of meaning did
that have for you
definitely has a very deep meaning for
me my mother was 10 when the war broke
out she was 15 and a half and she was
liberated
the scenes that you just saw now
she it happened when she turned 13 and I
asked
so here we take uh you know a teenager
together with her brother
they're struggling to survive so going
through unbelievable experiences
she's a regular Messiah girl and look
what she went through
so of course as a daughter to me it has
a very deep meaning
how does how does you know one of the
things that I know project witness is so
great at is making sure that these
messages do not get lost making sure
that the Next Generation continues to
understand what happened and continues
to learn lessons from it
what do you feel that this film has to
as a message to the generations
I do feel that uh
as the years are passing by uh
the survivors unfortunately are leaving
us
and uh
the new generation the teenagers today's
theme teenagers are getting further and
further away from the Holocaust knowing
less and uh you know
uh unfortunately it becomes like a
proven-based training for us so time has
come to wake everyone up time has come
to understand that not only the
teenagers went through experiences but
where do we live and with that we
shouldn't feel so comfortable
in the you know United States of America
and it could happen to every one of us
and to any generation
let's look and see this this film that
anybody who already viewed and those who
did not could obviously get uh the film
as well as more information or project
witness.org it's obvious to the viewer
that
um that this film was done on a very
high level to reenact a lot of those
scenes tell us a little bit about what
the uh what type of filming and what
type of work had to be put in to be able
to create the scenes that depict what
your mother went through as a child
uh the credit goes uh to remember the
producer and the director of big
production I hope that he is joining us
as well
uh gay travel to Poland spend a few
weeks there
and uh went through a very very hard
production process it was not simple not
to find the right actress not to find
the right scenes
the stories are there the stories are
all true there is no resaturation
whatsoever uh in whatever you see in the
film
uh these are not easy
since to
uh not to watch and definitely not to
produce but he has done it so
I have no words to thank him
and I feel that it's so crucial and so
important let me tell you thousands of
people watched it
an attempt that this one shows that we
had in different Jewish communities uh
on Facebook online last week the
premiere and the overwhelming uh
positive uh
of regards that we got from it we're
just unbelievable it just showed that it
really hit that spot right uh I I ask
you this question because I I I actually
didn't know the answer to this question
today uh I I watched the film I thought
it was absolutely fantastic I messaged
the Ormond earlier today to let him know
um but I I had
um my wife asked me if some of my
children should be watching this video
and on one hand I'm like of course they
should see and then I'm like what what
if they you know get nightmares from it
like what's your take in terms of the
the population that should see it
because of the message that's shown in
the film
um you know what was what was your take
in making this film as to what who the
target market is
I think that uh
uh teenagers 14 and up definitely can
see it and mature 13 can see it uh just
remember one thing this is a real story
and as I said nothing was exaggerated so
my mother could have gone through all of
that and come out as she came out and be
so strong
and fight over over not only surviving
but Shabbos and other things and stay
what she stayed as and our generation is
so Spalding cannot see it
right and and I completely agree and we
thank you so much for this film again
projectwitness.org projectwitness.org as
a grandchild
of Holocaust Survivors I feel the
um I feel the pain that you mentioned
earlier about them leaving us and what
will be as I think through my
grandparents and seeing how they
survived and what they became the
strength and of character that they had
and I look around and we don't have them
anymore we really don't and there's no
one that could ever replace them there's
no one behind them so being able to be
able to see films like yours and the
work that you're doing is giving the
Next Generation a chance to a realize
what they were what they went through
and I think the reason why you're doing
this to realize what we are and the
strength that we need to show because
that's the strength that we have in our
Missouri we thank you for that
absolutely thank you thank you much once
again those are still the Nazi the film
projectwitness.org projectwitness.org
thank you and we have to see it meaning
and this is so critical for those that
are that are watching and and I I'm
guilty of this as well really I am in
that if you grew up with the Holocaust
in your life you forget that the people
that don't don't have it like if you
grew up with the Holocaust like I was
blessed I had two colloquist
grandparents that were one block from my
house like I lived in their home like
like if you don't have it you don't have
it and if you had it you forget that
there are people that are just they're
never gonna see it and she said it she
had a great lunch it's a horrible by
Shaney you know I'm saying like the kids
are gonna be like I don't know I heard
of the Holocaust I went to the play when
I was seven like they're not gonna know
that the Holocaust wasn't so they went
to a cantata it wasn't 9 000 years
you're saying like it's so critical that
we we pause our life and even post Tish
above I know it's so hard now like we're
done with this you know in two hours
when you hit the once the carbs are
getting into the system like we're at
nakamo you know I'm saying look we're
finished but like we have to remember
that if if you're blessed to have
children or if you're blessed to be
alive and you don't have an
understanding of the Holocaust not from
a place of depression but from a place
of strength you're missing a piece of
Moder of I don't want to say Jewish
history you're missing a piece of who we
are as a nation today period in the
story amazing and it goes to it goes to
this story of us being able to grow from
these Treasures it's exactly right it
goes to do that and look how they grew
from it I mean it's exactly look at Mrs
is a product of her mother running
through the woods and and what you said
a second ago she said so many things
that we take on like smear Shabbos like
when you have grandparents that went to
the Holocaust to come to America and
then they say you if you don't show up
on shops don't show up on Sunday the
Holocaust part is like are you out of
your mind do you know who you're talking
to you know I'm saying like do you know
that I went through it like a staple guy
dude like you're saying like you're not
so you're so tough you've got like a
little tiny shop you know like that
strength of a juvenile are you joking
right like we if we had that we'd walk
through walls today okay we have uh a
clip we have a clip to you uh for you
over here actually Dave greson who's
with us who was part of your first trip
there are those who've been uh
especially through the film have been
asking us to identify project inspire's
Mission and the way that people can get
involved we have a short clip over here
about project Inspire let's roll the
team
my Judaism pretty much was uh
non-existent before I got involved with
project Inspire I knew I was Jewish I
was proud to be Jewish but we didn't do
a lot so I didn't feel very connected we
didn't even know what observant people
did or who they were or what they were
about I was a little bit cynical you
know I was totally unaffiliated we
weren't doing anything other than the
holy days and then after I went to
Israel for the first trip something
ignited inside of me ever since then
we've been growing by Leaps and Bounds
getting involved in so many more things
meeting so many amazing people so before
project Inspire I don't think I would
feel that I could have such an effect or
influence on maybe Jews are kind of a
more secular background and I'll be like
even if I would talk to them what would
they do what would I influence them how
would they see change project Inspire
brings people from all different levels
of Judaism together the model of having
in both committed families with those
who are exploring and learning more to
have them come together through project
Inspire I think is a very winning
combination
project Aspire is able to cater to any
group of individuals whether you were
born from birth or you're just coming
back for 100 days it's really to hold
hands with those that are observant so
we can understand what it's all about
who doesn't need inspiration and the
best way to be inspired is to inspire
others and they feel that if the 10
percent that our connect would infect
the other 90 with their passion for you
this guy it could be a game changer any
one more person you get to come and see
this kind to be kind to him it's this
has changed yourself it's a change to
you not just to him I have the benefit
of having grown up with you know
religious upbringing and Orthodox
education and I want to share that with
people but someone like me who
supposedly was always Affiliated project
Inspire brought me into where I needed
to be and gave me a love of Judaism and
I and also my kids my kids get to see
that there are all different kinds of
people and we're all so the same and we
just have to be open to learning about
other people and loving other people
project Inspire just wants to teach and
give back and have everybody feel
connected to our faith and really just
to be able to keep passing it on to our
kids everything that they do is all
about
sharing Judaism sharing you know Torah
and you know helping people understand
that you know
this has been going on for 3 300 years
there's got to be something to it it
does exactly what it aims to do which is
to bring Jewish people who may not be as
connected with their faith to a place
where they can become much more
connected much happier and just much
more knowledgeable too never could have
imagined that learning Torah and
studying would have been so important
you go to synagogue you read prayer book
Hebrew and you follow rituals and that's
wonderful but this is an opportunity to
see where are the other touch points in
your life to celebrate Judaism we went
to so many shabbatons and and weekends
that we truly enjoyed amazing speakers
and mirrors and beautiful Shabba sudas
I've just came back from my fifth trip
to Israel the trip was amazing because
it was seven days of really power packed
events that we did you are in your
Homeland and that was amazing to have
this feeling we started these three-day
trips to Kentucky The Bourbon Trail was
the first one we did my wife actually
led a trip for the women to Fort Myers
Florida and we found in two and a half
days of this bonding this growth this
this connection to a Brotherhood and a
Sisterhood took a root in an
unbelievable way I come out of it
inspired and I believe that the
participants come out of it inspired now
we're on this exciting mission of
getting more and more people on these
trips scaling them trying to get them
all across the United States because
this special sauce that we have has to
be shared by all projects Inspire has
completely totally changed our lives in
every aspect of our life Judaism is now
a part of my life and I've been able to
share that with my children the
organizational has changed our lives our
home our family the friends we've made
the focus of our lives changed
tremendously from just being about
ourselves to being about sharing with
other people over the course of some
years that George flame inside me star
started to dim and then I met project
Inspire and that flame came back and
that fires back that's what makes this
place special I started doing things
that I've never done in my life for
example doing to fill in every day we
can't rely on cure professionals alone
as extraordinary as devoted as selfless
as they are they're too few in number
but if we employ every member of the
Torah Community to be ambassadors we're
all schlooking we have a responsibility
we are agents of Hashem to make a
difference in his world to care about
our siblings his other children if we
Inspire ourselves to inspire others we
could transform the trajectory of claw
Israel we can make changes for
generations to come every Jew is part of
my family every Jew is part of your
family so when project Inspire gives you
the chance to meet more of your family
to connect with them to do something for
them you're doing the Jewish way and
Hashem will be very proud of you
[Music]
and there you have it just a short
snippet of the work of project Inspire
recent in recent clip I just want to
take this opportunity to thank Dr
Stewart and Andrea Heitman who
everything you saw and everything that
we've done here would not have been
possible without them incredible uh
really unbelievable they're amazing it's
incredible and our next guest um I got
to tell you if you haven't heard the
story you you're I don't know where
you're living but you definitely you're
disconnected so even something really
right or something really wrong when I
when I heard the story I was walking
back
um to the train in the city I couldn't
even get through every I was I was it
was too much for me to hear the story it
was the most incredible thing I believe
it I thought it was one of those you
know fake stories
yeah donate money to Niagara or
something we have with us uh an
individual who needs no introduction Mrs
nahama nerenberg is on with us if you
haven't heard her story she fell off a
90-foot cliff while hiking with her
family and survived with minor injuries
and that if that wasn't insane enough in
itself you have to hear her clip because
half the clip is about
amuna and
gratitude and you just can't believe
this person who has had such a
catastrophe being that mindset I'm
little Mrs narenberg it is an honor to
invite you to the show
hi thank you so much this this is
I just want to ask you how are you and
your family doing
we are all doing very very well
um my kids are recovered they don't want
to go hiking but they're recovered I I
can imagine not for a while so so tell
us a little bit now we're in this space
we're in this world of the end of Tish
above which is a unique time in the
Jewish calendar
it's a time where Triumph is winning if
you will and you can almost see the
nakama
someone who had your experience
had a glimpse of everything what the
world is supposed to be right and I
heard it in your voice of and even the
things you said were so DACA they were
so Nuance that you were working you were
walking with this kid versus that kid it
happened at this second versus that you
were able to pick up on so much of the
Gratitude of every second in life
share with us this concept if you will
you went through this incredible
experience and it felt to me that you
were already stronger from it what was
it like emerging from this what was it
like what do you have now that you
didn't have before this experience
most of all the Gratitude of sharing the
the be able to share the Gratitude is
being able to feel everybody else's
gratitude which is such a beautiful
thing
um
as you heard my story
you know the little things from not
being with my five-year-old on when I
fell and nothing with my 10 year old
um and just being with my
um she's almost eight now
um
when I fell
because a five-year-old would what would
a five-year-old do when a mother Falls
over the age look over it's a natural
thing
um and then he would have gone down with
me I was such a brata each each little
thing that my 10 year old didn't try
grabbing me
um
thank you
it was it was such a it was it was a
real real bracha and then I was so
usually when I walk with my daughter I
usually hold her hand and that was
another bracha I wasn't holding her hand
so what do I have different Hashem I am
so lucky that I always thank Hashem at
the end of my day and beginning my day
um
so I still have that same you know
we're thinking Hashem is so important
even for the little things not just for
the big things because everybody
everybody would look around in their
life they would realize yeah they you
know there's every single second of the
day you know it's interesting you say
that you know a couple of minutes ago we
had a great doctor his name was Dr
Blumenthal an incredible person who gave
I thought it was so powerful what he put
together in six seven minutes and he
mentioned how in life one of the pro one
of the concepts of tragedy and is this
the the disruption of normal we life's
predictable and when you start to see
the world as unpredictable it's a little
harder and as he was talking about
appreciation and all these different
things I was thinking to myself if your
life is always picking up on the small
bits of gratitude if you're always Blown
Away by the normal then you start to
train yourself to realize that there's
nothing that's normal and that you're
always living Miracles and what I took
from your piece said what you just said
and I want to double click on it because
we could talk about what happened for
hours but as people already sort of sort
of like seeing the bagel and we're
getting them towards the end with
hashem's help I want to double click on
this piece because I think if people got
this they would live myself included
we'd live greater lives which is when
you train yourself to start to get blown
away like even hearing you now say it
now my five-year-old and you're touching
my eight-year-old would help my these
are just little little coincidences that
you've turned into brachas that you're
now proud of and excited about that
you've now turned into Miracles and now
you're filled with Miracles that were
just coincidences but you could look at
them and say they're not coincidences
does Hashem loving me and if we all
walked around and look at looked at
these little things in our lives and
were this Blown Away we would we would
be stronger people
so there's
someone recently told me this it's such
a special thing hashems inside of us so
the emuna the belief is a natural part
of us it's like a tree
and patakhan is the fruit that you work
on and you grow on that tree and you
strengthen it you find the little things
and you grow that strength
um
and as I was falling
I was so blessed to feel Hashem hold me
as I was floating
um down the cliff and I I really felt
Hashem was holding me
um and for me able to feel that extra
strength of Hashem and we feel you know
the stronger part of Hashem and be able
to share it it was it it's it's
incredible
um yeah I know you mentioned you know
you mentioned sharing it is there any
anything specific that I mean again I
don't know if there's anyone like
Charlie mentioned who's breathing that
didn't hear your story it went around
you know how WhatsApp tells you
forwarded many times you know what I'm
saying it tells you like this was like
many many like it was you know once I've
invented an extra many what happens
what's up is like becoming from now from
these stories like it right yeah but but
I'm asking if there's any if there's
anyone who shared anything with you that
you felt that sharing your story was
worth it just to hear a feedback from
someone like this
people weren't actually sharing their
Miracle stores with me which was so
special and I feel like all these people
should reach out and share their you
know Beautiful Stories
um at the same time people were giving
me brachas they were giving me blessings
in return I felt like it became like a
whole
um I guess like a gathering where you
come and you you know you give each
other blessings to every turn gave them
blessing I felt like it was
strengthening me
at the same time hearing that it was
strengthening them yeah it was really
really special amazing well we we'd like
to bless you as well and continue you
should have continued strength to to
always see Miracles and um and not need
anything like this ever to to do this
again but that you know and and to
really continue to shine your light in
this world and we thank you who you are
and thank you what you've given us
really this Incredible Gift of of of of
appreciation and gratitude that all of
us have now more because of you
thank you I mean and we should all have
the open Miracles and the normal
Miracles and we should have openmazel
and we should be able to appreciate each
other
um and with with joy and health and
everything in between amen amen thank
you so much and it's really an
incredible thing and and just being able
to hear that if you haven't heard her
story you should it's really incredible
but but I really think the piece that
moved me besides the stuff that was
driving me you know I was going crazy
during the story was her ability to and
that's really special about who she is
is the ability to understand the nuances
and say that was a miracle and I think
if we we all did that more
right we'd be like I think if we took
upon ourselves something and Dr
Blumenthal said take something I think
if one of the things we take tonight is
I want to take one thing in my life that
was a coincidence and be a little more
Blown Away it would be much bigger
better people right I'm for sure and I
know for myself it's like you know these
type of things you're like okay next
story you know I guess maybe because I'm
in the film right right right right
right right but uh but that's definitely
true and you see that you know what made
her strong was the fact that people
shared their miracles so she was able to
then be blown away by by their stories
that they sure for sure
okay we have with us here our annual
guest and our annual host rabbayoni
zagatinski or project Inspire Brooklyn
who not only arranged us to be in this
amazing place where it's first kishul uh
but also of course hosts us uh post the
fast all the time right we only it's
it's terrible that we get together
really only Tish above on this deep
level but at least that in America next
to your new slime we only you he joined
here with Alex Schatz tell us the story
explain to us who Alex Schatz is and the
the work that you're doing on your end
over here in Brazil I get the Cal Ripken
award yes yes award goes to you as well
we have two Awards coming up this year
yeah so uh and you'll appreciate you'll
know you understand it yeah thank you
Charlie thank you you'll see so um
obviously Brooklyn project Inspire is
very very fast very large and we have a
lot of people involved you know from all
uh from all communities both the
religious community the non-religious
community yet and
um you know Alex uh we met Alex a number
of years ago and uh Alex has a
phenomenal story of his involvement with
the community and also with obviously
project Inspire and
um you could uh talk to Alex and he'll
tell you I don't have to tell you before
that Alex tell us a little bit about you
and uh
your story absolutely so yeah yeah I
think my story is um a very common story
of Russian Jews who came here in the 90s
um I was I happen to be 11 years old
when my family immigrated here I did
have some some Jewish background uh it
happened to be that in the 90s uh Chabad
came into my city heart of Ukraine and
they reestablished the shul then they
reestablished the the school and that
actually got a chance to go to
um to school there to Jewish school from
first grade all the way through fifth
grade and then um of course in 1998 we
came here it was sixth grade my parents
want me to continue with the Jewish
Education uh however I didn't go uh too
much as planned I guess you know God has
his ways so um the person that my dad
met who recommended the school
um he uh I guess the school that was
recommended for me um was a school in
Borough Park uh where um you know it was
a very different environment uh let's
say you know they they didn't speak
English and neither did I
um it was uh you know I was used to
Chabot School whereas both boys and
girls
um my favorite sweater that I wore to
school was this beautiful colorful
sweater and I wound up in an environment
that was you know completely different
um and then from that point on I went to
public school with every year that I
went to public school
um my um involvement with anything
Jewish decreased and decreased to the
point that when I was in college I was
you know I went really far away as far
away as I could that you know my mom
could still call me and ask me to come
back for like Thanksgiving uh but at the
same time you know I didn't there was
very little Jewish involvement in my
life at that point and what changed sure
so um so I think the first thing that
changed is my friend had to convince me
to go on the birthright trip uh when I
was um after my junior year of college I
went on that Birthright trip and um I
think just being in Israel being
surrounded by other Jew shoes you know
really
there was some kind of spark that
ignited within me uh that I made the
point uh to come back after college to
Brooklyn and
um you know become more involved in that
birthday organization and through that
birthday organization I met um probably
winner of Chabad uh started learning a
little bit started becoming involved in
other organizations but even though uh
two three years afterwards I found
myself living in Flatbush uh together
with now my wife uh we were you know
even though we were learning about all
these Jewish things Shabbat keeping
kosher uh we um we love the ideas but we
never felt like like we could own it you
know we never really we still felt like
it was something out of reached for us
even though we're living in Flatbush
mm-hmm
um yeah
right in Flatbush amazing we're running
a Flatbush so then this is your your
point this is your whole this is your
whole message that's right there's so
many people who are here that are not
connected it's amazing uh that's what
we're doing here in Project Inspire
connecting them incredible I would add
on I mean there's one uh obviously the
the movie that uh I mean I've seen twice
today it's just unbelievable you know
it's titled unexpected um so there was
one thing that kind of reaffirmed uh my
commitment and then uh changed the
trajectory of uh my family's life
um and but while we were living in
Flatbush in 2014 I was four weeks away
from getting married to my wife and
um you know it was a regular summer day
a beautiful day and um I uh I went to a
Dermatology office to get my skin tags
removed and um you know there's
when when in for the appointment you
know sat on the chair and
um you know uh I I felt um her do the
work on my left side I had two skin tags
um that um when she
um she took care of and then um the
third one
um the way that it was done it was um
involved a lidocaine injection right
underneath it
um and I believe from I guess from
my um what was explained to me
afterwards by medical professionals uh
the lidocaine went straight into my
artery and actually
um you know shut down my heart
so uh but I I didn't know it back then
back then I thought I was um I found
myself falling asleep uh I thought I
fell asleep in the Dermatology office
and had this amazing dream amazing dream
that
just felt so good and um I felt myself
like traveling to a place that had never
been before and I I recall just
you know just knowing that this is this
place is absolutely unbelievable feels
unbelievable and um you know in that in
my dream I thought it was my dream
um I I encountered um
I guess if
like I guess what what I would you know
I would say beings of my grandparents
wow like it wasn't like physical bodies
it wasn't you know it wasn't like I saw
their physical uh reflection or heard
their voice but I just knew that they
were my grandparents and we had this you
know incredible conversation and um
again it was a conversation was more
like
I guess telepathic communication
um and um you know I said I I was always
so scared of this place and then never I
never thought that this place would feel
so good wow
um so I uh at that point you know they
told me that I need to go back and I
felt myself going back
and um in reality I I remember the point
where I knew I um I wanted to wake up I
was going to wake up I felt myself back
in the chair and um I said to myself you
know when I when I opened my eyes when I
wake up I should tell the doctor that
you know I I should apologize for
falling asleep because it was kind of 27
year old falls asleep in the doctor's
office
so I opened my eyes
and um you know I I I say exactly what
was on my mind to say you know I'm so
sorry I didn't mean to fall asleep
and as I opened my eyes I see this this
woman who like Turned completely pale
and she's you know um she's on top of me
and she's saying no you didn't fall
asleep your heart stopped I've been
doing CPR on you for five minutes wow
the ambulance is here the paramedics are
their way up well one thing I'm getting
for sure Alex is that not only was a
physical CPR but everybody only
zagatinsky and his uh the crew here in
Brooklyn definitely did spiritual CPR as
well and brought you to the uh to the
position where thank God you're not only
a participant on our programs but you're
also a leader on the programs involving
many others as well I want I want to own
a bridge this because it was a this is a
point to this which is sort of
Destruction which is not really not
physical destruction and then rebuilding
I want to play a clipboard my face a
crone introduces part of the film wow
um and we have everybody standing by
with us but I want to play this clip
because I think this really encapsulates
not real not only our film but the day
of Tish above and the meaning of Tish
above let's play that clip thank you so
much guys amazing
hey Charlie
wow
that's really the purpose of this
presentation
but my dear brothers and sisters
wherever you are in the world watching
this I feel that I must prepare you for
what you are about to see
you are about to experience
a video as never before
you will perhaps cry as you've never
cried on a dish above
I've watched
I've watched this coming presentation a
few times and every time it breaks my
heart every time I've cried
you're about to witness destruction
devastation
hope
and rebuilding
you will see what it means
Israel
okay I wanna I wanna environment
who obviously we did an amazing job uh
really Charlie it's an experience
anytime we do something with story
pesochrome really did an amazing job
narrowing this film and really bringing
out uh what really needed to be brought
out in this film which is what he
mentioned Rabbi Crone I want to welcome
you to the show I also want to thank you
for another Splendid job but I want to
ask you if you can elaborate a little
bit on the introduction that you gave
which was destruction but rebuilding and
how that relates to us especially at the
final half an hour before the kakash
cake and the oranges
I'll tell you it is so amazing to me
when you think about it that today which
is the saddest day of the year we don't
say tahman why is that right I mean I'm
a moral so when I come into a Shore
everybody wants to know is there a Brisk
and then everybody's so happy because
like this they don't have to say talking
so if you don't think there's a simcha
so what's simcha is there today and the
answer of course is that hazal consider
this day of Tish above because it's the
birthday of mashiach and so on one hand
we're crying because of the loss of the
best but yet we have that hope and that
anticipation that there will be a Moyet
and Michelle beer and we will have the
third base Sunday gushed and that's what
I saw from that fabulous video that you
put together about Surfside on one hand
such destruction I told the story today
to thousands and thousands of people
anytime which you know goes all over the
world and I told him I was there I was
there for the first yard side and I
spoke in front of the almanas of some of
those who died and I spoke in front of
the assignment that were there but yet
the community
bound together and they bonded together
and that's the hope of the future when
there's artists and unity you know you
can build and that's what Hashem says
and that's what hazal tell us when
there's
Kingdom we can have the base Amigos and
that's why I thought your film was
fabulous Rabbi it's such an honor that
you're on with us you know how much I
look up to you how much I respect you
and how much
when we when I hear you speak even even
if I can share with you even today it
must be 20 years ago you told the story
of the crew of him embracing on Tish
above and I'm still it's still it's
still it's still I still think about it
because of the emotion and and the heart
you put into it somebody whose heart is
so bound with Carl you throw
share with us if you can a message we're
at the end of the show we're at the end
of this of this really like you said
it's it's a yunt if it's a yantef where
you don't eat but it's still in many
ways a moate where Hashem is asking
something of us and ah this is at the
Top If you can share this a message that
we can walk away with as we we end the
fast having our minds at this moment
okay I'll I'll say two things one thing
Charlie you know how much I love you I'm
your son Moshe and Jesse you don't know
how Charlie became how he became I know
that everything I know I know that
everybody yeah I know that everyone's
looking at it right right no no no I'm
telling you you have to watch his father
Domin if you saw his father dominant
then you know that's why he has a son
like he has that's the first message he
doesn't mind going he doesn't mind going
there all right just Diamond like
Charlie's father and you'll have kids
but I'll tell you a message that I
believe is so important if you take a
look in parsha's TruMark the amalgam
tells us a fascinating thing the posix
says
make for me and make Dash and I will
dwell in them so some say it means I
will dwell in the Jewish people some say
it means I will dwell on both but they
make Dash but then the posix says
another thing bahraine tassel and
suddenly you shall do it so what do you
mean so you shall do it it just says why
does it say it a second time and the
malam tells us the most incredible thing
he said every person is supposed to be
build amign
in the chambers of your heart you're
supposed to build a Midas in other words
every single one of us is supposed to be
a walking talking based Amigos and he
defines it and he tells us how your head
is like the all right why is it like the
orange brain is here and in the orange
you have the sehal of Torah which is the
breeze
so your head is an orange
your heart you can't exist without a
heart and you can't exist without bread
so your heart is like
and your stomach is like the miss bayach
the miss bayach consumes the carbonis
and your stomach consumes food so if
every one of us would think about this
really we are supposed to be a walking
talking based on the gosh the oreign
and we have to make sure that our
migdash that we have built and we try to
build within us is not destroyed and if
we can make sure that that's not
destroyed then the thirdly somebody this
is going to come back that's what I
believe our goal has to be we have to
understand that we are a living
representative of all of Claudius Royal
Governor tells us
hashem's name has to be blessed how the
way you drive the way you shop the way
you behave in the airport the way you
behave on a plane you represent Claudia
Israel and if we would only teach that
to ourselves and our children and make
sure that the mishkan or the amigdas
within us is sound then I think we we
can have hope the third base that make
us
Rabbi thank you so much for who you are
for what you mean to so many people and
for these words as we start to end this
this this fast it means so much to hear
him and I know that uh and thank you
again for an amazing job and for joining
in this project we won't tell everybody
here when when I contacted you and when
this got done you know we'll make
everyone think that it happened months
ago
it's my honor and my pleasure really
okay Charlie you're wonderful I heard
different things that you spoke about
thank you just keep it up I met your
second boy at Camp Romo thank you doing
a great job I mean thank you Rabbi thank
you so much she'll be so connected by
you by the base of May I make man that
was Rabbi Crow and he he's the greatest
in the whole wide world there's nobody
like him in the whole wide world he he
really is a person who cares about Carl
Israel in a way that so few people do
it's it's really you see why he's so
beloved it's amazing and and I think you
know I did this project together with
him the way he defines you know us as a
college girl through the lens of the
film and the destruction yet the
rebuilding which has really been our
story
um I think that uh would only be
appropriate really to I'm gonna hand
this over to you yeah you know someone
who has really uh in the past been a
guest of this show numerous times yeah
um and as its appropriate fetish above
to think about it yeah to think about
who we're missing here today you know
there's a the person I remember sitting
right in the spot
right remember yeah oh
we suffered this this year the loss of a
great man Hashem has his ways Hashem
knows better
um everybody Zachariah wallstein was was
somebody who was
Beyond this world
and um and it's hard to go through
tishra without him
earlier today in ornava he was the the
driver and in fact people don't know
that very well seen in many ways the
whole or novel world was born in Tish
above it was born with a few women that
wanted a Shear that he gave and it LED
and led and led and led in so much of
what tishop stands for which is
seeing the best in other people and all
of that growth and
he he owned it he he he he embodied it
he really didn't I remember specifically
um he's been on numerous to these shows
but I remember specifically one year he
walked in here and I think you had a
whole list of questions for him and he
said Charlie
I'm actually gonna take this a whole
different we're like excuse me Charlie
like I have a little bit a whole
different thing which is so normal for
how it happens he has his own way I feel
like it's only appropriate to pull up
you know that clip oh wow actually oh
wow numerous years ago sitting right
where I was and he said Charlie I'm
gonna take this whole time okay move on
over okay
in darkness so this Tish above instead
of talking about
she's off the Derek kids oding people
dying cancer crisis off I said I'm
not going that way at all I am talking
about the darkness that we're looking
forward to I am talking about the Beauty
and the moyade of Tish above and that's
what I talked about the whole time but I
want to tell you because you love my
review very much so I call them up I say
rabbi gamliel what's the message
what's what should I what's my cavana
that's what I asked
he said the following
he said number one you need to know that
all the Kenneth and everything you say
has nothing to do with you
we're not saying that killed us for us
it's not about our pain and the Six
Million Jews who died he said it's about
the Six Million children Jews that were
God's children that died he said the
whole Tish above and the whole Guinness
and all the murdering acts as well and
the girl that jumped off the boat and
the asare who came out because it's not
about us we're reading all about this
that now we understand Hashem how much
you lost
there's nothing to do with us and it's
the pain of the shrina and that's what
tishima in desire it says that if you
want mashiach because you want someone
who died you want to see him or you know
you you're someone who's sick you need
refusalem so so the the ramam calls you
an epicures he says you have to want it
for the Sheena to come out of the Galas
and this is I'm going to end with this
this is the line
and he says to me
when you when when you dive in Myra
tonight might say Tish above where you
going after that
was like a strange question like what
what I'm like
uh what does it really ask you I want to
know where you're going for sure I said
I'm going home
he said all the people in Yeshua where
are they going after Myers tonight I
said they're going home he said all the
people in America
where are they going after my roof
tonight I understand where he's going am
I they're going home
well there's someone who's not going
home tonight
and that's god wow
and therefore you have to cry we're all
going home Tish above's over for him
never over his children are in Godless
his house is burned down he has no home
so don't forget that much edition of you
may be going home but he has no homo
wow
that
I don't know if there are words that
follow that
that that's in many ways that is the
message
that Hashem is not going home
in many ways the
the messages
it's not done yet we may be finished
with this piece of the fast but our work
is not done yet our our job in this
earth is not finished
by the way Eric wallestine lived this
this is from five years ago wow five
years ago today
wow you did love it I mean this is you
know he was always looking forward to
the future to the brightness to the you
know the focus on moving forward amazing
yeah there's actually uh there's there's
another clip before we we close this
show out that went around today and
again I just want to shout out to Torah
anytime because they yeah put this out
on the daily dose today and I know I
shared this with more people than I
share you know pictures of my kids with
because I felt it like on a Daily Dish
above this was this was the message to
think about I know we quote him you know
when in terms of the ending of the fast
but a similar message but maybe even a
stronger message about the meaning of
Tish above and what Tish above is not
more importantly than what tissue is
let's go to another short clip from
zakari Wallace
yesterday I wasn't sure my land miles
everybody came over me through the wall
scene we hope machines will get here
before tissue well the Manchester is
going to be ayanta
am I My High
so it's a youngster because I live
around with the fast
that we don't have to fast
because it's cold
do you know that cool
if you want the Shia do you don't have
the fat you're not because
I'll show it to you in a safer if you
want what she asked because your
grandfather died and you want to see him
if you want the Shia because someone's
sick and they need to report Salama you
want to shift because you're not making
your final song
if you want the Shia for any other
reason that the Shino is in gogs
it's written and waited for crying he
fella writes it and I'll be curse
the only reason
that we want to show up to be young the
next year
because our Tati
he's been knocking on every one of our
doors
and we don't let them in
and we threw them out and we're not
taking them back
as the ghost of the screen off
and therefore the only reason that we
want tishima to be called The Mighty
because the might is foreign
because honestly everybody here
and I'm talking to myself
let's face it
you're already sitting on chairs we're
halfway there
tonight we're gonna have Cocker steak
and orange juice and if we're lucky
enough one pizza shop will be open
and we'll be having calzones and pizza
and I want to cook tomorrow we're going
to be a pomegranate getting some steak
or with all the places to play but Frank
come rolling heavy and every bundle time
for everyone yeah you want some weight
today
but what changed what changed
what cheese what did you change
he's still not allowed to come to your
house
we still have those phones and that
internet and those movies and all the
other stuff in our life
so for the Sheena
it's Tisha before here
for us it's one day goodbye
two thousand Tish above and nothing's
changed you know why you know why
nothing's changed
because we haven't
yes we said can this yes we sit on the
floor and tonight it's party time and
tomorrow we totally forget at 12 at 102
minutes I said we're gonna all turn on
our music
but Lord I was gonna have a concert
once I shot his master move and by next
week you won't even remember this not
next week by Thursday not even Thursday
but tomorrow night
this is over
come yeah
this is not Tisha ball
nobody said next year it means Hashem
God should have his home back
me too
that's always interesting Michelle
should come so we don't have to go
through this again
the whole year
doesn't change for him it's the same
story nothing changed
back here with our our final message of
gold lost has been with us for many
years as well
um and we can't think of anyone better
to close the show out this year than
than him and to really leave us with a
thought a message
um as we end this Tish above and so
without further ado
thank you for joining us thank you for
being with us thank you for inspiring us
and we turn to you
um to finish our program here and
and leave us with a message that this
Fest really uh we can take with us well
Charlie just to be here project Inspire
sorry
knowing that the world is tuned in to
project Inspire is a measure of comfort
at least as interesting
we cry we cry at night so there's an
interesting shot why do we cry at night
two types of crying one cry is when
you're crying because you want people to
hear you you want people to help you the
other crying is a personal crying
cry at night you cry in your house you
cry in your room you cry in your bed
even nobody hears but a semisphere hears
it and realizes we're crying over the
horben or the personal Corbin whatever a
person has to cry about the source of
all that saurus and the tears are in
Tish above
so there was a great Sadiq review
in the Voca rabba there's a guy that
came in and he said rabba uh I need a
big Yeshua give me Yeshua
the worker ever thinks for a minute and
he says to him I'm sorry
the gate in shamaim is closed there is
nothing I can do
guy breaks down doesn't let the Reps see
him
he goes out
about an hour later
the guy sees that there's a horse
carriage is coming running running
running after him
the rabbit gets off
and he says
you know something I told you there's
nothing I could do it was a lie it's not
true
there is one thing I could do
I could cry together with you
they sat down
they cried under the tree
they cried so hard
that the little boy that the man came
about that needed Yeshua God is Yeshua
wow
the one thing that we can do the whole
Tish above is we can cry together
we can hear each other we can feel each
other's pain
all the tears should be dried anybody
has a tear Shalom bias a tear needs a
reform a Terry Yeshua arnosis
children going off
anybody that needs anything in the world
the tears of Tish above should help
that there's no more crying
oh man wow
Rabbi such an honor that you're with us
it's an honor to be hit
if I could just one I just I don't want
you to go I mean I I really want them to
have one more moment with you
as we as we think to ourselves as we
walk into
which what we're now looking for is the
nahama
as we're now getting into the world of
Shabbos
what can we take with us as as we we
hear we heard a while she said earlier
and it really connects what you said
about the crying
I don't want to go into the next phase
forgetting about Hashem
right we we we we gotta somehow not
forget how does how does one do that how
does one
go from Tish above to nachamo and not
forget Hashem along the way
that's what makes Rabbi Harare
[Laughter]
one way it's only my own so you don't
have to take it for very much
if I ask anybody here say shirhams for
me
Papa
's
good
okay
foreign
how a person never forgets Hashem
every day of golus wow remember we are
here we need Hashem I got to have that
that's missing
foreign next year will be a big simple
project in spiral being your shalim
somewhere making a whole thing and yeah
I'm sure it's gonna be great we're gonna
be over later
every year every man every woman every
boy every girl
should know
wow
wow that's the way that thank you Riley
for being here thank you for what you do
for us and from Target Israel
and that's really the way we
we rap the show yasi thank you again for
a great show and thank you so much for
for what you've done and what you do for
call Israel sure Charlie thank you again
I hope Mr chamber probably Wallace and
just if I could mention one more time he
did tell you when he was here he said
that when when you know he was he was a
cayenne and he said he'll get you he did
he promised me and he promised him he
will get you in the back door I'm
holding him to it he promised me about
whilst he promised me that I don't have
to wait online for the for the next car
on pesach
um and I guess that's that's our show
that's that's our show that's our that's
uh
we're trying to give across here
is the idea of of Triumph through
tragedy
and you hear from so many different
people about how we do it how one does
it
how one is able to really grow from this
as we end Tish above we have to realize
that this idea of Tish above is
something that takes place not just
in our Collective lives but in our
personal lives and each of us has that
moment of challenge
like the rabbi said a moment ago I'll
noticeable remembering where we are
remember Wallace things that were Crohn
said remember all the different pieces
of the show
and our goal is to stand up today and to
never sit down again
to be blown away by the small miracles
to realize that we have one incredible
Nation that's there for each other be
there for somebody and appreciate when
someone's there for you and together as
one nation if we have that level of
Faith we'll overcome anything maybe just
maybe
that resolution right now as we get up
from Tish above we'll create a scenario
where we will go from Mikhail Ohio
my brush is that next year should be
tuition to be doing the show
with the base ammunition our backdrop to
all of us together singing and dancing
with the Binion base of Medusa
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
Arrow Jerusalem
[Music]
place
[Music]
foreign
[Music]
eyes
[Music]
same houses
[Music]
foreign
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
live here
[Music]