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Rabbi YY Jacobson with Shifra Chana Hendrie: Rebranding G-d
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[Music]
welcome everybody you can see from my
face how sorry about the banging how
excited i am about today's guest and
this interview
uh i'm going to be welcoming rabbi y
jacobson just in a moment
and we're going to be talking about
something really amazing and really deep
and applying to every human being in
these times
so stay tuned for that and without
further ado
let me officially introduced to you some
of you know
him if you are connected to the torah
world you can hardly help but know of
him
and maybe know a lot of him if you are
not as many people here are not then
allow me to introduce you rabbi yosef
yitzhak or more commonly known as y yy
jacobson easier to say
is one of the most
sought after speakers in the jewish
world today
he lectures
to both jewish and non-jewish audiences
and serves as teacher and mentor to
thousands of people across the globe
he's considered to be one of the most
successful passionate and i want to add
compassionate and mesmerizing
communicators of torah today
calling his ideas from the entire
spectrum of torah thought and making
them relevant to contemporary audiences
of all backgrounds and i have to say
to the call of the hour which we'll get
into soon rabbi y was the first rabbi
ever to be invited by the pentagon to
deliver the religious keynote to the u.s
military chief of chaplains and the nsa
he's also the founder and dean of the
yeshiva.net that's the yeshiva
t-h-e-y-e-s-h-i-v-a dot net
link also beneath this video
rabbi jacobs jacobsen is also the author
of a tale of two souls which is an
extensive audio series on the teachings
of the premier classical text of chabad
hasidis known as the tanya which has
influenced torah thought for hundreds of
years now deeply influenced he's written
more than a thousand articles and
diverse themes of jewish thought
including biblical and talmudic studies
jewish law kabbalah and hasidism jewish
history psychology philosophy education
relationships a big topic for rabbi and
all of us israel and current events over
the past 15 years rabbi jacobson has
traveled to hundreds of communities
schools and universities around the
globe educating and inspiring people of
all backgrounds with the majestic depth
of torah and i have to smile as i say
that because
i didn't in my younger years i knew what
torah was i grew up jewish but i didn't
know what it was at all and especially
not the mystical torah
and um
it is
an infinite wellspring of majesty and
depth and richness and healing and
intimacy with self and god and so much
more
anyway that said welcome and thank you
so much rabbi for being with us today
thank you for your gracious introduction
and it's my pleasure and honor thank you
okay so i think maybe we should just
start because there are people from all
different backgrounds i'm sure some of
whom probably haven't heard the word
torah even so if you can just start with
a brief explanation of why that is and
even more importantly why anyone should
care
and then we'll take it from there
right
so the word torah is a hebrew word
starting from the beginning and it
actually means
a manual
or
a lesson or instruction
and it's basically the
literature i would say
of jewish wisdom
communicated transcribed taught over the
last 4 000 years from abraham the first
jew abraham and moses all the way to
this very day
torah includes
thousands and thousands of books most
famous would of course be the hebrew
bible
the pentateuch the five books of moses
the prophets and the writings but it
also includes the entire body of judaic
literature jewish law and jewish history
jewish philosophy and jewish theology
jewish mysticism and jewish spirituality
and the jewish people have always seen
it as a blueprint a divine blueprint for
life
today we have ways or google maps to
help us navigate our journeys
you remember schiff for the days before
ways and when you had to get through
somewhere to somewhere else remember you
had to write down instructions and
inevitably open a map
inevitably you got lost today it's a
blessing
you know if that's true about a journey
on a physical highway imagine the
journey of life
which is so intricate and so complex and
so nuanced and often
filled with pain
and filled with tragedy and filled with
challenge and difficulties internal and
external so the primary function of
torah
the body of jewish wisdom is to provide
a manual a blueprint of how do i
navigate how do we navigate our lives as
individuals and as part of a collective
so you're saying navigate and it's
beautifully explained but when you say
navigate the underlying assumption is
you're starting some place and you're
going someplace so where are we going
where are we starting where are we going
and where are we on that on that where
are we ways
show me the overview
beautiful beautiful question so one of
the foundational premises of torah of of
jewish mystical spirituality is
that we are all conceived in oneness
we were all we are all conceived and
undifferentiated oneness
imagine
the story of a child every child
every child begins as a fetus
in the womb of its mother and even
before that
it begins in a state of undifferentiated
oneness with the father's seed and the
mother's egg
and even as it develops in the mother's
womb there's still undifferentiated
oneness complete connection complete
intimacy
birth is a process
of independence which begins with
separateness
that separateness evolves over the years
until we become full-fledged adults
and the birds
soar from the nest
but the key is not to forget
that essentially we come from that place
of oneness and that's our journey our
journey is back towards oneness
so what does that actually look like
you know and i have to say that um a lot
of the people who are listening are no
doubt from what we call the
consciousness space the healing space
you know there's a rise in
in general human
let's say consciousness intuition
searching spiritual searching this is
actually prophecy right that it will be
part of this era but um but but when
people say oneness i often feel like
it's kind of a general idea it's a
definitely foundational que coi is the
core idea if there's such a thing
but what does that actually look like
and how does that show up in the human
process in this navigational journey or
metamorphosis what is it what is the
world supposed to look like what are we
supposed to look like
i'm going to use the terminology of
judaism or what we call torah to answer
that question
essentially
the miracle of creation the miracle of
this world is
out of one many
in jewish mysticism pre-creation
consciousness is a consciousness where
there is oneness
but it's a completely undefined infinity
judaism
kabbalah jewish mysticism doesn't use
the word god
it uses the word ainsaiph ain't safe in
hebrew means
infinity
which means reality that is completely
one
and not defined because if it's defined
it's already finite it's undefined and
therefore it's all-encompassing
from a jewish perspective
if the doors of perception were cleansed
everything would appear as is divine
infinity
so essentially creation was the miracle
that from oneness came diversity
came with many in a pre-creation
consciousness there's no thou and i
there's absolutely no separateness
there's no distinct identity
we don't exist as separate we don't
exist as separate beings there's no ego
there's no sense of separateness
existence
the creation from a jewish perspective
is the ability
and the need for every soul every
creature to face the trauma of
separateness
like that moment of birth
when the fetus emerges
or is extracted from the womb of its
mother
and for the first time
it has to face
a sense of separateness
but the ultimate objective is not
separation
the objective is to reveal the oneness
within the diversity
to reveal that each and every single one
of us is a fragment of the divine
and each of us
constitutes an indispensable
note in the cosmic symphony and only
together can we create the full song the
full ballad the full symphonic beauty of
the universe so each and every creature
has its unique music to play
distinct individual my unique dna
sequence is the imprint of god on my
personality which is different than
yours
we share i share 50 of my dna with a
banana 99 of my dna with a chimpanzee
so what really makes the difference
between me and the banana or me and the
chimp
or me and my brother and my sister
really share dna and the answer is that
unique individual alteration
from a jewish perspective is the divine
imprint on you a unique imprint
that makes me me and you you the talmud
says an astounding statement
every person is obliged to say every day
for me the universe was created now it
sounds like
crazy narcissism really i'll tell my
wife the world was created for me and
she'll say the world was created for me
it's a great way of living a great way
for relationships what it really means
is what the talmud is saying is that
there's something at stake in your life
that the whole world needs
the day you were born
is the day when the creator declared
that the world is incomplete without
your contribution without your light
so when each and every one of us brings
to our life
our unique divine light that flows
through my consciousness like it flows
through your consciousness
together we create a much deeper unity
than the unity of pre-creation the unity
of pre-creation was just
undifferentiated oneness the unity we
can create today and i think we're
called on to create today and that the
world is inviting us towards is a unity
that does not ignore diversity on the
contrary it's created from diversity
from our differences from our
distinctiveness from the fact that i can
create space for you and you can create
space for me we create a much deeper
consciousness that synthesizes the
infinite and the finite the oneness and
the diversity
the undifferentiated undefined infinity
together with every single individual
aspect of every single creature in our
planet and in our cosmos
yeah i'm actually hearing this on kind
of a three to a multi-dimensional way
feeling in a multi-dimensional way like
it's quite multi-dimensional right but i
don't you know it's yeah no of course
obviously way more than the mind can
encompass but i i sometimes i think
about the example of uh the analogy of
the of a puzzle a jigsaw puzzle you know
how annoying it is like it has 5000
pieces and each piece you know you have
to take it out of the box that half the
pieces are upside down they're on the
wrong order you have to have a big space
spread them out figure out where and
where i start where do two pieces fit
together and then the only way you can
actually create recreate the puzzle is
through the picture on the top of the
box which seems i sometimes think of the
torah as that like that general you know
that's beautiful that's a beautiful way
of saying it
showing you the bigger picture
but it's obviously multi-dimensional and
the destination and the destination
right but it's so annoying what is more
annoying than doing 4 999 pieces and
then you're missing less
great question
except what you're saying right annoying
and frustrating and uh how can it even
be done
there's a beautiful line in the ethics
of the fathers which is one of the very
famous tractates in jewish wisdom it's
known as the ethics of the fathers
it was written around 2000 years ago
1900 years ago and there's a line over
there in hebrew
it's
which
to translate
you do not have to complete the work
but that should not be an excuse not to
begin your journey
you know it's been said by greater and
wiser than i that
perfection
is the enemy of progress
when i look at my life and i say you
know it's my responsibility to put the
entire puzzle back together
then it seems like such a daunting task
and often the result is just resignation
or cynicism or despair the jewish
perspective is
you never know the impact of an
individual
and you'll never appreciate the power of
one person's light there's a beautiful
old story that they say that illustrates
this there was once a young girl
standing at a beach in california and as
the tide was retreating the ocean was
spitting out all of these starfish and
she felt bad for all the dying starfish
so she would pick up the starfish and
throw them back into the water to give
them back life
and one old cynic looked at her
and said you foolish little girl this
beach stretches for dozens of miles even
if you stand here 10 hours a day
and you throw in starfish by starfish
you're not making any difference you're
not having an impact there are millions
of them stranded here
and the girl looks at them and she picks
up one fish and as she throws it back in
the water she said for this one i made
all the difference
and that i think is a very fundamental
jewish idea
you know there is that one person that
one the starfish that one young man that
one young woman for whom i
can make all the difference
and when i make all the difference for
that person
that makes a very very powerful impact i
also want to remind all of us that the
first world war
the first world war which used to be
called the great war before the second
world war
that broke out in 1914 summer 1914
and
as a result of the first world war and
the terms
with which germany
was allowed to continue functioning as a
nation at the end of the war ultimately
led to the second world war these are
the two wars
that changed history completely
and how did the first world war began
begin began from a 19 year old
gabriela princip a 19 year old kid who
pulled the trigger
and murdered the ear
and his wife
of the austria-hungarian empire
and that pulling of the trigger
is literally what sparked the first
world war
which not only it on its own had an
unbelievable impact a devastating one
but literally changed everything not
only for the jewish people for the
entire map for the entire globe
judaism says never ever underestimate
the incredible influence and impact of
an individual soul
in the positive
so when i when i work on recreating that
puzzle
even with my own tools and in my own
limited way
maimonides makes a statement my mondays
was one of the greatest jewish thinkers
he lived in the 12th century
considered one of the greatest jewish
philosophers and also world philosophers
in history and he writes a line
he says from a jewish perspective you
should always view yourself
and the world as a scale as a balanced
scale
and he says if i do one mitzvah
which is one good deed one act of
kindness of love of compassion
imagine that that may tip the scale and
change the whole world
now sometimes i would read it and think
you know it may be a little exaggerated
and maybe a little dramatic but then
when i realized that it took
one simple man in china in
to sneeze
just to sneeze
and a few months later 7.7 billion
people were brought to their knees
with the sweeping of the coronavirus all
over the world i understand what he
means
the impact of a person if it's true in
the negative it's even more true in the
positive so our attitude should never be
i don't think you know who am i i'm a
nobody i'm a nothing there's a big
puzzle it's way beyond me let me just
retreat into my little cocoon
our attitude should be much wiser and
much more historically accurate
and that is you are an ambassador
of infinity you are an ambassador of
divine energy
and just like atomic energy it's not
about quantity
if you can tune in to your deepest
nuclear levels of energy
the impact is beyond anybody's
imagination
is that why i was going to ask you
before but you might have just answered
it but is that why i was going to ask
you why is it that the that deposit if
one person can change the world for the
negative wise it's so much so more so
for the positive i think you may have
answered it but if you want to just
explain that a little bit more
like what is the why is the power for
the positive greater than the power yeah
because you still help us
it's a great question and it brings us
to a much larger question which force is
more powerful in my life the force is
the positive and the negative sometimes
it seems that negativity has so much
more power
the powers of depression the powers of
hatred
alienation
disassociation this connection they just
come so easy and so fast you know i'm in
a bad mood i'm in an angry mood i'm
frustrated i'm hateful i'm angry i'm
vengeful you know positivity i like you
know stories that we tell ourselves and
more like you know
poetic dreams and nice songs
but the truth is it's the other way
around
it's the other way around
because you see all negativity
essentially this we have to understand
all negativity essentially
lives
because of concealment
it's basically thriving of blockages
and anything that lives
only because truth is concealed
has
a limited life term
because the moment is revelation
it dissipates it ceases to be if i can
give a very simple illustration if i
have a company or i have a business
that's running a ponzi scheme
completely illegal
transactions and so forth its entire
power is that nobody sees the truth the
books are closed yeah so it may be very
tempting i mean we all know you know
about madoff's panzer scheme and other
schemes but the moment truth comes out
it's all over it's gone
take the soviet union take communism for
70 years it cast
its fearlessness over the world like
putin is doing today
right
and then one day in 1990
it just died
without a single shot fired no other
revolution in history
was bloodless
yeah it's true it was bloodless what
happened was because it was all based on
life it was all based on
lies the cover-ups were so thick and so
dense as churchill once said that one
day it just plots plots as a yiddish
word which means it just
it just melted away into thin air
the power of negativity could be very
very powerful and fearsome in our own
lives and in the world but ultimately
it's skin deep because it doesn't have
reality to back it up
because when reality emerges there's
oneness there's love
there's compassion
when reality emerges
we're full of love we're full of light
we're full of joy we're full of
possibility now reality doesn't always
emerge
we are also filled with blockages i have
traumas that block me i have fears and
insecurities and anxiety and stress
and unresolved stuff that block me
but they're all based on blockages and
therefore i always have to remember that
the power of love
and positivity
will always defeat
hate and negativity because one is
rooted
in truth in authenticity and the other
one gleans its power from blockages and
cover-ups
like clouds like when you go rising up
through the
holy day in a plane and all of a sudden
it's it's really really bright
right and we all know in our own lives
i may be living with a lot of blockages
and it's eclipsing my light
yeah and it's very easy
to fall prey to those blockages
but if i dig a little deeper and if i
excavate my inner depth
then ultimately the darkness vanishes in
the presence of light you know you can
have the darkest of room of rooms and
you light a candle
and the light expels the darkness you
don't have to battle it you don't have
to get into a debate with it you just
have to light
a flame of truth in a house of lies
and the lies just dissipate and that's
our role in this world our role each one
of us is a candle
the book of proverbs says
the soul of a human being is the flame
of god
which means each and every one of us is
a candle
but a candle could sometimes remain
unlit
you have the candle itself you have the
wick you have the wax
i have the oil i have the candelabra but
then i have to ignite the flame and when
i ignite that flame of warmth of
compassion of truth
the darkness
dissipates
well there's a lot here um
i want to ask you a few things at the
same time
um so let me just sort through for a
second i i want to know first of all you
do you describe the world the creation
of the world the the reality of the
world is undifferentiated infinite
oneness and self and then you described
how that's concealed in order for
individuals to emerge so that what
you're saying makes it sound like even
this that god is concealed is skin deep
not just goddess and i want to lead into
that soon we want to talk about god
because people have all kinds of
preconceptions and conceptions and it's
so important
to to really look at those and bust
through but first i want to ask you
like is does it are we in a place where
it's skin deep because it seems like i
mean creation has been going on for a
long time concealment of of divinity has
been going on for a long time suffering
has been going on for a long time lies
have been going on for a long time
why does it why would you say that it's
skin deep and the other question that
goes with that is how does a person bust
away those clouds or bust away that
darkness or turn on the light like when
you counsel people what are the some of
the core things that you suggest
that make that difference
right
so one way of looking at it is when i
say skin deep i don't mean that it's not
powerful or scary or has not wreaked
havoc
what i mean skin deep is that ultimately
it will not prevail
you know the pharaohs of the world the
hamans of the world the tituses of the
world the stalins of the world the
hitlers of the world
have wreaked havoc
and we the jewish people know this i
think better
than any other nation
the amount of bloodshed and violence and
suffering
and yet
when you look four or five thousand
years later it's amazing
in the bible there's a scene where god
speaks to abraham the first jew
and he says i will bless those who bless
you
those who curse you will be cursed and
all the nations of the world will be
blessed by you
and when you read that verse and you
think about
the fact
abraham was an individual person who
commanded no military
owned no empire
had very little resources didn't even
have a child to continue his legacy
and yet
four thousand years later half of
humanity considers themselves spiritual
ears of abraham
and the ideas of abraham monotheism
oneness the search for the laws of
nature science
today have completely redefined the
world and what that means to us what
that means and what it shows us is that
ultimately reality
prevails that's its nature reality comes
from the word real
right so
we we as the jewish people i think are
living witnesses to the fact
that yes
history
has been challenging history has been
difficult
and
there's no denying that
and there is so much pain there was so
much pain
and so much
evil and darkness have often prevailed
in the lives of individuals and in the
lives of nations
and cultures and we still watch so much
injustice
so much pain so much abuse so much
tragedy
the question we have to ask ourselves is
they say there are three types of people
there are those who make things happen
there are those who watch things happen
and there are those who want to know
what happened
as jews our mission is not to watch
things happen and not to ask what
happened but to make things happen
now you say as jews would you include
everybody listening here there are
plenty of people listening here who are
not jewish so i would include every
single person the reason i connect this
to the jewish people is
because i think historically the jewish
people have seen themselves
as
identified
with a mission to be able to share with
humanity some of these fundamental
truths about every person's
responsibility non-jew and jew alike
people of every race and every culture
and every religion and every tribe
you know the torah judaism calls the
jews the chosen people and somebody once
asked you what does that mean what are
we chosen for chosen for benefits
chosen to be persecuted
and i said the answer is we were chosen
to teach every person that he or she was
chosen
we were chosen to teach every person
that he or she was chosen that you're
not a random mutation
you're not just a consequential
valueless meaningless insignificant
blimp on the surface of infinity who
will one day just become father of the
worms
no you were conceived in love
and you each and every person
constitutes an indispensable note
in the cosmic divine symphony so when we
say evil is skin deep it doesn't mean
it's not powerful what it does mean is
we should never take our eyes off the
target and know that the ultimate story
of history the arc of history
is bent
towards creating more harmony and more
oneness and there's a lot of good that
we also have to celebrate you know i
said yesterday at a lecture that in the
last few years for the first time in
history more people died from drinking
coca-cola than from starvation for most
of history you woke up in the morning
and you did not know if you're gonna die
from one of three things
famine
a plague
infectious diseases or violence
today not in all of the world but most
much of the world we wake up in the
morning and we're not concerned that
we're going to die that day from
violence
or from hunger or from an infectious
disease this does not take away the many
tragedies and loss of life we have to
understand we have to understand that
for thousands of years things were very
very different
and there's a reason there's the world
is developing there is a progress there
is progress the consciousness of oneness
is becoming more and more pervasive
we speak to people around the world and
you see the openness the openness for
people to realize
that we want to be in a space of harmony
we want to become conduits of compassion
we want to become conduits of love so
we should never be naive and not live in
la la land and ignore injustice
and ignore crime
and ignore
toxicity and ignore hatred and bloodshed
on the contrary our responsibility is to
stand up to injustice
with dignity with conviction and with
potency but on the other hand it's our
equal responsibility
to remember that our role is not to
become
cynical or to surrender to the spear
but rather to help repair the world
that's why each and every single one of
us
is here
you ask a question about how i would
guide people to help remove our
blockages that was your second question
and i think you know every person's
journey is extremely individual but
there's a few things i would say that i
think are pretty generic
the first element is
we need a real so every person needs a
support system you need to connect to
people you need to be connected
in the hebrew bible the first thing that
the torah the hebrew bible says is not
good the torah the bible describes how
god creates the world and every day he
says everything is so good and beautiful
and then there's the first scene where
god says something is not good and you
wonder what will that be
adultery idolatry
murder sin no the first thing the hebrew
bible god says is not good lo tov
it's not good
for the human being for adam for a human
being to be alone
as we know today in research the
antithesis of addiction is not sobriety
the antithesis of addiction is
connection
the first thing we all need is
attachment we all need connection it's
not just because of evolutionary
psychology
that historically we have been you know
hunters and gatherers
and therefore as we forage we needed the
support of the group from a jewish
perspective it's much deeper
it's because we are we were conceived
in a space of oneness undifferentiated
oneness we're really attached to each
other
we are destined to be attached to each
other so the first element of healing is
we need support we need people who
believe in us
we need people who are connected to us
we have to reach out and reach in and
connect to people we need that we need
this semantic attachment we need
spiritual attachment we need emotional
attachment we need psychological
attachment so that's the first thing i
would encourage you want feedback from
people you want to connect to people and
it's really this may be a very difficult
step for many of us especially those of
us who stopped trusting
and so many of us stopped trusting we
were forced to stop trusting so that's
the first thing that's really applicable
we need those relationships one two
three relationships with another person
with other people with groups who can
help us on this journey to remove
blockages i can't do this myself you can
do this yourself
on adam we cannot do this alone as smart
as i am
as brilliant as a person may be and as
wonderful as you may be that's number
one number two
i really need to be able to open myself
up to all of the opportunities that
there are we live today in an amazing
time through so much opportunities and
methods of healing
various models of therapy various models
of treatment open yourself up to it you
know speak to somebody who's in the know
learn about it
there are quite a few of those
presenting in the summit so yeah yeah so
that's incredible there's so many
different and at the end of the day i
don't know that it's one model or
another model
that wins color war
i'm not sure about that i think it's
more the fact
that there is connection there is
attachment there is support
there is tuning into what's going on
that allows us to open ourselves up and
finally yeah i just wanted to reflect
back and ask you isn't it true that when
when somebody like you're saying it's
not necessarily modality but it's this
connection but i'm wondering if it's
also i'm thinking that it's also the
fact that when someone when you go to
someone and they support you they see
your potential they don't see your
despair as the reality they see what
you're describing
a hundred percent now
you have to be connected to people who
know how to connect
i was the other day i did a weekend with
2 000 people in florida who are in
recovery active recovery from
sex addiction uh drug addiction
and other forms of addiction alcoholism
etc
and uh just i got a just the middle of
one of the lectures god graced me with
this line i told them i said listen my
friends
you know
if i have not worked out at all my own
crap
when
i encounter your trauma
your trauma triggers my trauma
and then my trauma gets entangled with
your trauma and instead of helping you
i sometimes
become a force that actually is
unhelpful
but if i do work out at least somewhat
my own toxicity
my own issues then your trauma will
trigger my empathy rather than my own
trauma and that's the key
because sometimes i can go to a
therapist or i can go to a rabbi i can
go to an imam i can go to a priest or i
can go to a friend or i can go to
somebody but if they or i have not
really worked out my own issues if i'm
in denial
if i'm still stuck in my own traumas i'm
not judging you
but then what often happens is i can't
really be here for you because
i'm just trying to survive
so i'm responding to your trauma by just
trying to cope myself
yeah instead of being an agent of
healing i sometimes become an agent of
destruction even if not deliberately
so it's so important for each and every
one of us to be able to have the courage
and it takes courage
to really look into myself and to have
the people who will help me do that
and to really ask myself not to heal i
don't think we can all heal in one day
but at least to be aware the moment i'm
aware of my blockages the moment my
brother once told me that somebody came
to him for advice
so
my brother says to him my friend
is it possible that you have a blind
spot he says yes of course i have a
blind spot but i know what it is
right so
the moment i know what my blind spot is
you know i may be a little dangerous so
it's so important for us to be able to
open ourselves up and it's a very
humbling process it's a very humbling
process but there's so much love and
opportunity out there that i don't think
any one of us is excluded today
from the responsibility
to be able to confront
my uh
you know to confront my issues and for
each of us to confront our issues
i think you could say when a person gets
triggered by someone else that is a
pointer to a blind spot if we allow of
course of course and the call of the
hour is curiosity you know i always tell
parents when your children say something
to you and you're really triggered
before responding
can you be curious
when your spouse says something to you
and you want to implode or explode or
run away for three months emotionally
can you really remain present and be
curious and ask yourself what just
happened because that will be a portal a
vista
to greatness
you will
you will touch something that's been
hidden for many years and there are deep
sparks
there are deep sparks of leadership
and of greatness that are hidden there
and that's called a soft spot
so you know pursue it don't run away
from it this was an opportunity and from
that perspective jewish mysticism says
every obstacle
or what we call today trigger every
trigger
is really
a boulder that can be transformed into a
stepping stone
towards incredible profound
depth awareness and spiritual greatness
and we must seize those moments so those
moments that are making you crazy
and really are bothering you don't run
from them
those are good those are good places
there's a lot a lot of hidden treasures
there
yeah it's it's a it's a practice to be
able to um
to
to use that
opportunity and to understand that you
know sometimes i can do it now i didn't
used to be able to sometimes i can say
wait i'm really triggered what's going
on
what's the next lesson what's the next
step that's not when i'm really really
triggered and it takes a lot more time
and you know processing and work so it
takes a lot of discipline a lot of inner
work
and it also takes something else and i
think this is a key fundamental teaching
of jewish spirituality that is i think
so important for all of humanity
it's always recognizing that your core
is never damaged
your core and to use jewish torah
language
your core
is
divine
your core is godly your core is filled
with potential and infinite potential no
abuse
no dysfunctional home or family
no mental illness
no trauma no mood disorder no
personality disorder
and nothing in the world can snuff out
your core
goodness and wholesomeness your core
goodness and wholesomeness may be in
exile
it may be hidden away winston churchill
once said in a time of war truth is so
precious
we protect it with bodyguards of lies
come back to our blockages
but at your core your core eye is never
ever ever damaged
when i can really be cognizant of that
so then that eye can observe all the
triggers almost as an outsider who
observes it and watches it and even
though it's hard it's gripping me it's
overwhelming me i want to scream i want
to break the window i want to run i want
to freeze fight flight whatever my
reaction is
i could always remember that there's an
eye observing
all those triggers
and i can then watch my inner child
playing in that sandbox being terrorized
in that sandbox
and ask myself
what just happened
and begin a journey towards so much more
awareness
i think it was viktor frankl who once
said
between stimuli
and response
there is a tiny empty space
and it's in that space where all human
freedom lives
so you know you may say something to me
that was a stimuli that just came into
my brain and i'm triggered
and i'm ready to respond or react
but
in between
the stimuli and the reaction there's a
tiny little space where freedom lives
that tiny tiny little space
you know if i can go into that space if
i can cultivate that space
and i can watch
what is happening to me i can be curious
with compassion with love with
sensitivity not with judgment because
when i do it with judgment and criticism
i'm never going to get anywhere it's
just going to go back into hiding but
when i can do it with compassion
it will almost open sometimes open
itself up to me and slowly there is this
journey towards towards inner
redemptiveness
right this is a core teaching in jewish
spirituality literally a core teaching
and it's helpful to know that to know
that your goodness could never ever be
compromised
that your mental
challenges whatever they may be
are part of your journey they never
define you completely
and what is the purpose i think you've
spoken to it a bit but um
how would you
sum up what is the purpose of the
infinite loving god giving these kinds
of challenges to people and i'm sure
you've answered that question and asked
that question that's uh you know that's
one of the greatest questions that's one
of the greatest questions that we all
confront
and
i don't know that our brains can
intellectually
give a satisfying answer to this
certainly i cannot give that answer to
somebody else i can maybe give that
answer to myself and i can hold somebody
else
and serve as an empathetic witness to
help them on that journey
but i would say two points that i have
found in my own life
and that people have shared with me as i
served as an anchor for them in their
own journeys
number one
i told this to somebody the other day
um
this person opened up to me and told me
how you know as a child they were
molested for five years and raped and
when he finally when this boy had the
courage to come to his father
all his father said was i don't believe
you
and he told me that that was worse than
the five years of rape because the five
years of rape
were done by
some sick pedophile but this was his
father
who didn't even give him the dignity of
believing and he turns to me
and he said these words he said rabbi
why why he says you want me to believe
that god exists
after this experience
maybe if you could tell me why tell me
why it happened to me
i looked at him i shed a tear because it
was very sad to hear this from a person
obviously
and then i said to him i said i'll never
know why
i will never know why i don't know that
anybody could know
why but i just want to tell you
something i feel
i feel
and that is i don't think
you can approach your tragedy your
experience
with an intellectual question seeking an
intellectual answer almost like it was a
mathematical equation why because
right i think it would be far deeper
if instead of asking why you'll ask
another question and that is
how can you turn your experience into a
mission statement
i don't know that any normal person
can answer why why why would the child
like this have to go through this and if
god exists and god is compassionate why
we why would he allow this to happen in
this world
i don't know i really don't know i
cannot wrap my brain around it
but i told this boy
i said but i want to now ask you a
question and that is
if you had a choice
and your choice is
to look at your tragedy and say i am
messed up
this world is an evil sadistic barbaric
place
and i am a victim of it and that's the
end of my story
i'll just live the best life possible
okay
i can't judge that reaction i can't
never
but i said i want to ask you would it be
possible for you
to muster the courage and respond
differently and say as follows yes this
happened to me it's devastating i need a
lot of grief work and i need a lot of
help and you know what till my last
breath i will have been affected by this
no question
a certain part of my childhood was
robbed
and because of that i'm going to ask
how can i take that
and turn it into the most defining
powerful mission statement of my life
because i told them
the way you understand pain nobody does
and the way you could look into the eyes
of another person who was abused nobody
can
and the way you can offer empathy and
love and compassion nobody can and the
way you can become a leader in our
society
fighting injustice
and not allowing criminals to get away
with cover-ups nobody can do it like you
so i wonder
if you can take all this
horrible horrible darkness that you
experienced
and turn it into the most powerful
defining mission statement of your life
because if you can i said
then
our children will be living in a much
better world because of your leadership
and i have to tell you he stood up
he gave me a long hug
we were both crying
and he told me two things
he said thank you for not answering the
question why
and thank you for believing that i can
still have a defining mission statement
and i have found in my experience of
counseling people and talking to people
that
to answer the question why is sometimes
very unwise and often cruel and stupid
first of all because i don't know and
even if i would know
intellectual answers don't
deal with pain
we're learning philosophy if we're
learning math if we're learning physics
we all cherish the intellect and we
cherish our analytical ability and our
prefrontal cortex capacity
no question and if you're a jewish rabbi
learning talmud the intellectual
creativity of the mind is a blessing
when we're talking about pain when we're
talking about raw pain
and somebody says you know why did this
happen to me why did my father die when
i was a child why did my mother die why
am i going through this illness why did
i lose this lovely beloved one
i think our job in this world is not
to give explanations first of all
because we don't know and even if we
would it's hugely irrelevant our job is
really to be there for people to be
there for people now i would just add
that sometimes and i think a person has
to be able to say this to themselves
i know in my life
some of my struggles my personal
struggles i would have never asked for
them and i would not wish them on
anybody that i love or anybody else
and yet i also know
that there are certain places i have
reached in my own internal
soul that it could have never reached
without this
absolutely true does it justify it does
it rationalize it does it explain it i
don't think so
i think we're talking about a different
realm of reality
sometimes a human being
has a very very deep light
and in order for them to discover it
and to own it
they have to be able to work very hard
and they have to sift through
a lot of
debris and a lot of
a lot of uh in the indus we have a word
meshugas
which means
a lot of complicated stuff
in order to be able to discover that
light and own that light sure
god could have just given me that light
and say rabbi why why light up the world
it would never be mine
i would not own it i would just be a
robot
in this world
go ahead
in this world we are called to become
the authors of our own biographies
it's one of the most beautiful teachings
of judaism sometimes we see religion as
being very passive it's almost you know
just be a
obedient slave of the lord just do what
he wants
but in judaism there is a beautiful
expression it's an expression of the
talmud god wants you to be his partner
in the work of repairing the world
should have
a my separation a partner is not passive
if i bring in a partner in my company 50
i don't want the partner to be an
obedient
passive bystander i want the partner to
come in with his or her full creativity
bring something to the table
yeah bring something to the table that i
can't bring i can't bring
so this is a very gearing idea in the
talmud god was looking for a partner and
the question is what can't he bring to
the table what can we bring to the table
i look for a partner because he either
has the money to invest or he has the
wisdom to manage or to strategize that's
why i bring it apart if not i don't need
a partner i want the revenue for myself
so the talmud says god was looking for a
partner in the work of healing the world
this means
that there's something the partner
brings to the table and what is that and
the answer is
it's human vulnerability
it's human vulnerability that's what we
bring to the table we bring to the table
the authenticity
the non-judgmentalism
the compassion
the striving for growth that comes
because of our deficiencies
because of our imperfections
as we
go on our journey
we can then discover something from
within
that becomes ours through our work
through our initiative through our
creativity
and if you could look at your challenges
as
an invitation to go on a jeep deeper
journey your challenges are transformed
into opportunities it doesn't mean
they're not hard
it doesn't mean you don't need to do a
lot a lot of grief work
it doesn't mean
you don't need to work through a lot of
pain
and it doesn't mean you wish it would
happen it would have happened
it doesn't mean you become just this you
know zombie
zombie
you know the other day and i know i'm
bringing up something very personal
that you are unfortunately very well
aware of i was visited by parents who
lost a child
and
they lost a child in a car accident
a 16 year old boy
and the father said something
fascinating to me
it was such an interesting question i
didn't expect it
he said to me you know as i was sitting
shivering judaism is a ritual that after
we lose a loved one we sit for seven
days in our home and we do nothing
we don't go to work
we don't sit on our emails we just are
visited by people who come to talk and
console and tell stories
and just offer emotional support it's a
psychologically brilliant
law with injuries with the seven days
you don't leave the house you don't go
to work you just sit
and people just come and visit
i remember how amazing it was sadly
amazing it was a sad but it was also
very powerful when i lost my father and
i was sitting shiv and people just came
all day and most of the night
and didn't stop coming and just sharing
stories and episodes and memories
it's just a very
very powerful way of transitioning
from one life into a really new life
without your loved one in any case it's
called shiva shiva means seven because
it's you do it for a period of seven
days of a week
and i turned to him and i said i don't
know but i just will offer something
that may possibly be true maybe not i
said think about it and if it resonates
it resonates if it doesn't you know
scratch it from the files
and he said what is that and i said is
it possible that some of us are trained
to deal with tragedies
by amputating our emotions by not
failing our emotions we almost choose
between god and our emotions
if you want god
cut out your emotions if you want your
emotions you're gonna have to say
goodbye to god and religious people who
have grown up with god and faith in god
say well i'm not rejecting god
it's almost like in that woody allen
movie i think crimes and misdemeanors
with his
niece
turns to her very religious uncle who
has this long white beard and she turns
them and she says uncle if you had to
choose between god and truth which one
would you choose
and the uncle says of course god
and it's of course it's woody allen's
way of describing what religion looks
like in the 20th and 21st century you
know you're choosing between god and
truth
so but they would say no i'm not reading
god in truth i'm choosing between god
and my own very human
uh
primitive finite
small-minded directionless and
and petty emotions
i said you can't do that you never ever
choose
make that choice between god versus your
emotions
because if these are your human emotions
they're real they're authentic
they're part of god's gift to you
they're the way you play out
undifferentiated oneness in this world
through your emotions that's all i have
i have my experiences in life
i'm not infinite i'm not god i don't
have to be god remember god wanted a
partner
partner means you're going to contribute
something to this
endeavor to this enterprise a partner is
not passive
so if faith is all about surrendering
your emotions not feeling
there is a danger
that something human shuts down
and when people speak to you they just
feel that there's something human that's
missing
and therefore what i would encourage is
you know be present with all your
emotions
be present because if this is your
emotion this is your emotion
you know work with it embrace it cherish
it have compassion with it and you will
grow with it
is this number three when i interrupted
you a long way back you were you were
talking about getting support from other
people and seeing that the
the greatness and in the depth you know
in the blind spot is this number three
to be present with all the emotions
as you i'd have i had asked you if
you've consulted
people to get rid of the blockages
this sounds like this i know this to be
very very powerful
and so key oh my gosh
it's it's
it's very very key it's so important
we also need support for it because
sometimes it's very scary
sometimes it's scary but this is another
key element to be able to really
be present and not afraid of any emotion
you know your soul
is larger than your pain
your soul could contain it all
you don't have to cut anything out you
don't have to amputate enough to be
afraid of it
you can really be present with it and
you can bring it to the conversation you
could bring it to the fore you could
bring it into the relationship with
yourself
with your close people and with your god
you know bring it into the relationship
the the the last point i wanted to make
earlier i was thinking about something
else which is i would always encourage
people
to be able to
define their life
as a story of blessing
which comes when i get involved
in actual
positive endeavors so wherever i am in
the world it's important to be able to
dedicate some time of my life
to be an ambassador of love and light
and hope
whatever that means for you to get
involved in some project to create an
organization a movement a website to
become you know get involved in
volunteer work to get involved in some
form of work that is about love and
kindness and giving and generosity and
benevolence
because ultimately
ultimately
actions of positivity have a very very
powerful impact
on our heart on our soul and our psyche
they create new neural pathways you know
when we engage in certain habits for 60
times and more we literally create new
opportunities in our brains new
opportunities of how we think about
things so that would just be another
element
get accustomed to engaging in rituals
and habits that are consistent that are
positive that are loving that are kind
they will have a very powerful impact
even if your heart
you don't feel you're fully
emotionally ready for it right
right that was just another component
that i would add to this conversation
but talking about amputating emotions
this is such an important thing
people have to trust the fact that every
emotion that i'm experiencing
is part of my blessed journey
it's not part of my curse
even if it's a very difficult emotion
it's there to teach me something it's an
alarm clock
we don't like alarm clocks you know
if i'm sleeping i really don't like my
alarm clock to ring but the alarm clock
is not a curse the alarm clock is there
to wake me up it's to make me alert
we have a lot of alarm clocks and they
can make us alert and make us conscious
and aware of things so that we don't
sleep through life
well there's some way you started out
more or less this conversation by
talking about the court it really struck
me when you said it the core trauma that
that happens as we're initiated into
living into life and birth which is
separation
and you also talked about how the nature
of the of the universe is that there's a
cover or blockage over reality which is
indivisible undifferentiated oneness
and um
definitely that has the overtone and the
color in the creation has the
according to mystical torah has the
undertone i should say of divine love
and divine goodness of bringing
something new into being
through and through that partnership you
know revealing the reality so i'm just
wondering
and i almost don't even know how to
frame the question but i'm just
wondering if
this these experiences if it makes sense
that these experiences of the of the
traumatized emotions are somehow
homeopathically or
um or through consciousness or through
contrast
are showing us
what isn't working about the blockages
so that we go it always drives us deeper
it always if we allow it to it always
brings up different dimensions of
awareness that we didn't at least
speaking for myself that i didn't know
existed
very profound very profound question
very profound so let me say two points
number one
all traumas
can be traced back to the primal trauma
and that's the trauma of existence
or to put it differently
even the person that theoretical person
who may live in new zealand i don't know
who grew up in the most functional
perfect loving nurturing home the person
who grew up seeing and safe and secure
and soothed you know the four s's of dr
siegel and the person who grew up in an
ambiance
of absolute attachment so there's no
attachment disorder etc
that most sensitive wonderful spiritual
person still has to face the ultimate
trauma
it's the trauma of existence
it's a trauma of a soul that is one with
infinite divinity
descending
and experiencing itself as lonely broken
fragmented detached living in a universe
that eclipses that true reality that is
a very deep trauma i want to tell you
something sometimes we look at children
who ostensibly are in functional homes
and functional schools and yet they're
experiencing a pain and nobody knows why
like what what happened nobody abused
them they're being fed they're being
nurtured mommy is good tati is good
they're good good people
sometimes they are too spiritually
sensitive and they are experiencing the
trauma of separateness the separateness
between people
the separateness between nations between
cultures
the wars and the violence that exist on
our planet the fact that there's so much
distrust that's what they're
experiencing
and when we can remember that we must
remember that all the traumas we face in
our individual lives ultimately stem
from that one
and when we can trace it back to the
core and we realize this is our job in
the world our job in the world is to
face this trauma and to look at the
darkness and say and i know that above
the dark clouds the sun is shining
above this trauma and within this trauma
there is oneness
and when i work it through
i transform the darkness into light i
bring healing not only to me
but vertically and horizontally
to the planet
and vertically even to the generations
that preceded me because in epigenetics
we know that our genes carry the trauma
right of all of our ancestors
healing retroactively no we bring
healing retroactively to our
grandparents and great-grandparents and
so on and so forth because our genes
carry the trauma our genes also carry
the resilience and the wisdom and the
love and the compassion and the good
deeds and the faith and so forth but
there's also another very important
point to be made about all of this
from the perspective of jewish mysticism
the entire universe comes from
undifferentiated oneness
yet creation
was
the act of differentiation diversity
identity i am i you are you every
creature has its space its unique
chemistry every organism its unique dna
sequence etc and that's what makes me me
and it makes you you and every one of us
has our functionality and our individual
unique streaks that differentiate us one
from another
what allows us to go back to our true
nature
often it's the trauma
that compels us
to go out
of our individual story
and go back to a place of simplicity and
oneness which is the only way
we can truly liberate ourselves
our traumas often force us to let go of
every last vestige of ego
every last vestige of vanity
and allow ourselves to melt away in the
ecstasy of oneness so paradoxically
it's sometimes our pain
that really compel us to grow to places
and touch truths that we could have
never touched without it
because when i'm in my comfort zone and
my comfort zone is working for me i
could just remain complacent
it's when my comfort zone is shaken
and i suddenly realize how limiting
my stories about myself are
and then i realize that all of creation
is a story that we tell ourselves about
ourselves and others
and i'm forced to completely go out out
of the story
and go back to a place of
undifferentiated oneness
so that a much deeper truth emerges
and that's where
our pain itself
becomes
the foundation of our redemptive
consciousness
and now we're healing
it's so true and it's and others also
and it's so complex and just really
quickly
want to share after i lost younger
brother in 2002 you know i lost a child
a six month older years before that and
that was in 91 i think 1991 right
wow remember
yes i remember i was i was i was a
student in a rabbinical college and i
remember that story when you lost your
child
yeah it was early it was before it
became like
unfortunately there more and more you
know there have been a lot more
tragedies since then but it was it was
much less common at the time anyway
after my brother passed away like that
when my when my baby passed away i i
happened to be you know around the time
when the bobby trevor was urging us you
know to do what we could to bring this
redemptive healing to the world and i
just felt like the soul was pushing me
and i got very activated in ways that
were way beyond my identity then when my
brother passed away in 2002
a younger brother i kind of
i think i went into ptsd and i remember
every day i was sitting at my desk just
like why what the heck
and i i was able to move less and less
you know just was sitting there
day after day for about two or three
months and
and at one day i just remember having
this sudden visual it doesn't even make
sense but it changed everything for me
it was like i saw suddenly saw myself
where i lived in morristown new jersey
and there was a lake there and i saw
myself in the lake as a duck
from nowhere from nowhere
and i was swimming and i was looking it
was cold it was winter and i was icy and
all the houses kind everything seemed
kind of gray i was looking around and
then all of a sudden my attention was
drawn down to the underneath the water
my little round duck body and my little
duck feet paddling there and it does not
make any sense logically but it was like
it showed me i felt with my whole being
that this is a world of peace that
underneath this every down there
everything is good and everything is
connected was like a revelation and it
allowed me to get up from that chair and
move forward into the work that i do now
it was one of the first it was really
the first catalyst for that
and so i i think everything you're
saying is so utterly profound and so
important and it's like there's
something about the human being that you
know we're creating the image of divine
the divine yet you're we're human we
have this reality to us that nothing
else has because we have that free
choice we have that divine you know
essence and yet we we experience the the
the decisions and the the pains as well
as the joys but the pains and the
travails of humanity what they call the
human condition in such an intense way
and somehow
the blend of the two being more aware
and more compassionate and more allowing
of that that human self
making the space for it bringing it up
to heaven screaming and or crying in
pain as who could not do you know who
wouldn't do that
you know as much as needed being
witnessed
learning to to hate the picture to offer
goodness instead of that darkness and at
the same time it seems to have the
effect
if it's used correctly and i don't wish
it on anyone we're moving toward a world
where death the torah promises death
will be removed suffering will be
removed that's what redemption really is
but i just want to say that somehow the
the work that you're talking about and
the allowing that you're talking about
the self-compassion that you're talking
about allow for the revelation of that
deeper realness of us which ultimately
at his court is god and the revelation
of that in turn heals all potential for
suffering suffering comes from that core
trauma of separation right does that
make sense to you this is how i'm
hearing it all you know putting together
yeah there's us uh what come to as you
were talking you know two really
majestic majestic teachings from from
jewish spirituality come to mind
number one
there is in the bible in the hebrew
bible that dream of jacob as he's going
he's leaving his parents someone going
to build the first jewish family which
would turn into the jewish nation he
dreams of a ladder that's standing on
the ground sulawesi
there's a ladder standing etched on the
ground and the top of the ladder reaches
heaven
and the rungs of the ladder are
basically the link between heaven and
earth
and the hebrew bible is using that as an
illustration of what the ultimate
calling of a human being is
we are ladders and that ladder on one
side
is etched on the ground we're earthy
we're earthly
we're concrete we're mundane
we are physical we're sometimes very
brute
some of us more than others
and that ladder has rungs
but that very same ladder its top
reaches heaven so we are the interlacing
link between heaven and earth but those
rungs
climb through all of the layers of
reality
so that the human soul is actually like
a violin
that experiences the vibration of every
dimension of reality and of every
creature on earth
maimonides writes that the human being
is made up
of every dimension
of the planet and every dimension of the
cosmos so our hearts are actually like
musical instruments
that experience the vibrations of
literally every dynamic mention and
that's why there is so much confusion
and there are so many vicissitudes and
there are so many fluctuations there are
so many experiences but instead of
allowing that to become a source of
confusion
and fragmentation
and the splintering of self we actually
have to see it as an invitation to be
able to take all of those vibrations and
turn it back into a singular symphony
so don't get afraid of any vibration
every moment of the day there'll be a
different vibration just be open to the
experience
and the second major beautiful idea in
jewish mysticism is why is it that
naturally instinctively we love the
ocean
i think most of us you know you stand at
the ocean and there's just this sense of
of war and mystery and love and
something about it and also you stand in
front of tall mountains tall mountains
and there's a beautiful interpretation
about it
the oceans and the mountains remind us
of who we are we're really
you know the ocean it doesn't end
doesn't look like it's ever going to end
from our vantage point it just reminds
you of who you are and that mountain
itself it reminds you of who you are
and when we have those reminders of who
we are
it helps us live a life that is aligned
with who we are
well it's stunning and it sounds like
this violin image is so compelling and
it seems like yeah we're saying the
strength theory the ultimate strength
it sounds like we each contain
everything that we each contain with us
everything everything each and every one
of us there's a classic jewish mystical
word called lakute torah by the founder
of
he passed away 1812 in ukraine and he
writes he writes
the reason a person can repair the world
is
because everything that exists in the
world
is reflected and mirrored and vibrates
within every person's psyche
so there's a piece of the world inside
of me you know when i'm watching i live
in rockland county and there's beautiful
birds in my backyard there's a forest
and there's a red and blue bird that
come visit
our trees every evening before sunset
and
i'm watching the red bird
i'm watching the red bird you know the
other day during corona we stayed home
so i wasn't going to the synagogue so i
would pray in the morning so saturday
morning i would sit with my wife and we
would study texts of jewish spirituality
and there was this bird that kept on
coming every few minutes
and almost like he was giving this or
she was giving this message my wife said
yeah yeah the bird is reminding you that
you have to pray you did not do your
morning service
so you know i told it to my teenage son
and he said sure you know dream on that
tati
so i don't know what the bird was saying
but there was something so compelling
about what she her interpretation
because
it's true
there is a symbiotic relationship
that we have with every creature on the
planet when you're watching a worm or
you're watching a caterpillar or you're
watching a squirrel or a groundhog or i
often watch the deer here i'm not
watching someone or something that is
separate from me
no
the job of the human being is to reveal
the oneness we are all interconnected
just like there's a food chain and
there's a food web there's an ecosystem
and the balance
is perfect
and the balance is essential every one
of us is a giver and every one of us is
a taker every creature contributes and
every creature receives we all need each
other on one level or another and it's
the job of the human being who has the
consciousness of oneness
to be able to reveal that
synchronization
and that unity within humanity and
within the entire planet and within the
entire universe
wow
okay this leads me to the
real core question
that i wanted to bring up that i want to
bring up in this
amazing interview
it's really hard not to go down all of
these or go through all of these doors
that you've opened up like the light is
just shining you know calling but
um
we talked before the call about the idea
of what i what i'm starting to call
rebranding god and i want to say that
you know a lot of people
as i'm sure you know better than many
people a lot of people
are have a visceral aversion to the word
god they were brought up with a sense of
being judged and not
not good enough and sometimes in very
severe ways sometimes with punishments
and beatings at least with threats and
fear and even in very
beautiful households that are very
connected to religion and even within
the torah tradition
not the mystical torah which is
revealing this oneness
which you know only started to be really
revealed in bigger ways
you know to 300 years ago a couple
hundred years ago and now much much more
than ever
because of the times but anyway we're
still wed i feel i feel very much and
i'm
i'm saying this is a statement it's
really a question i feel very much
that we are being invited
and even
more strongly than invited we are being
begged
to step into a new relationship with god
the old relationship with god was
trauma-based we're all traumatized by
god anybody who believes in god is
deeply traumatized by god and there's no
way to move into a relationship of love
and oneness which is the promised and
and emerging you know evolutionary
destiny that we're moving toward the
awakening as some people say there's no
way to do that from that traumatized
relationship like you said people either
turn their back or check out or whatever
so people either walk away from a
relationship or redefine god to fit
their own you know thoughts which god is
way beyond our thoughts you can't create
a universe and be beyond that if you're
stuck in my mind um and limited by that
so anyway how do we get it it feels very
much that we're being urged like i said
to move to a new relationship and the
last thing i want to say about that and
i'm turning it over to you
is and i don't say this in public i've
said it a couple of times in smaller
venues in public but i people are always
talking about like asking god for
forgiveness and asking other people for
forgiveness and you know that's that's
important when it's not when it's
appropriate and forgiving ourselves
really important but on a much deeper
level it feels like we cannot move into
a new relationship with god if we can't
forgive god
and i'm saying this to you because i
know you can handle
and do something with it but
forgiveness means to let the past be in
the past you're not afraid that i'm
gonna stone you through the zoom huh no
i'm not i know too much about you thank
god
no but this is i really i don't want to
have this even if you relate to what i'm
saying so if you don't then feel free to
you know tweak it bash it whatever but
to me it seems like i thought i thought
this over front back underneath you know
side i cannot see anything else as you
cannot allow you know you can't allow
someone to treat you in a different way
you can't see a different way if you
can't let go of all of the hurt
in some way not that it doesn't have to
still be worked out but if you're
holding let's say in a relationship
someone hurt you a spouse they betrayed
you whatever
if you can't
believe that they want to be different
now and that they realize and see your
hurt and that they want to heal it now
you can't allow that to happen and we're
talking about the one business you know
source essence being of the whole
universe so
take it away
okay
so shifra you ask a wonderful question
and it's not just a wonderful question
it is a vital question
because i would say that so many in our
generation
experience what i call dt
divine trauma
divine trauma is basically trauma
revolving
god revolving around god
and it comes from the fact that many of
us
have grown up and consciously or
unconsciously deliberately or non
deliberately
the way god is experienced by us is in a
very very negative and toxic way
i can't tell you how many countless
emails
i've received from people
letters
personal encounters with people from all
different groups of life
and the common denominator is that they
perceive god in a very very negative way
god is out to get to me god is out to
crush me god is out to kill me to
destroy me and their life story are
basically a confirmation
of that inner belief
and you know i often tell people in my
lectures you know i ask them
i want to know what is the first
instinctive image
that you experience in your brain and in
your heart when the word god is
mentioned
i'm not talking about the images that
come later after meditation and
reflection
and a cerebral long analytical process
i'm talking about that
moment the moment you hear the word
what image
you know is planted in your brain that
very moment before you have a chance to
judge it and dismiss it right and very
often people will describe a very
sinister image
you know
black scary dark eyes steering you down
dark clouds
somebody who's really really always
looking down your back and searching
through your closet to try to find your
guilt or many other similar depictions
and what that means is
that instinctively our first impulsive
reaction is one of negativity and we
have to work that through
because in order to embrace the
consciousness of oneness
the consciousness of love the
consciousness that unites us all that we
spoke about it earlier
we really cannot judge ourselves or
judge these responses because these
reactions are really
part of our coping mechanism
you know our brain creates files for
everything including for god and these
are the files we have created to know
what to expect to know how to position
ourselves vis-a-vis god
but these relationships and these
attitudes must be revisited by us
as we all mature
and try to enhance our spiritual and
emotional posture
in a healthy liberated emancipated
inclusive and deeply emotional and
visceral relationship with god that
enhances
that enriches
that embraces and empowers us rather
than weakens us
a lot of relationship but okay i i am i
i'm sorry so sorry to interrupt your
flow but no problem
i just i it's also religious upbringing
you know there's a constant emphasis on
you know we're not good enough we have
we failed we haven't you know at the
mark we have to
repent we have to ask for forgiveness no
wonder these things are happening that's
one thing i want to say i'll let you go
and go go forward in a second yeah what
you're saying you're not good enough
you're not good enough you're always
guilty and how do i
but how who authorized anyone sorry for
the blunt question but
but i know that people are going to be
thinking this who authorized a a
spiritual leader or a rabbi like
yourself or anyone else who's promoting
a love relationship with god who
authorized you to change the dynamic do
you know what i'm saying if this is a
tradition for all these
most religious yeah so yeah sorry for
the interruption but it's no no no it's
an awesome question and the truth is
if you read certain texts
without context
without the context of real spiritual
oneness indeed those traditions are more
than justified in other words
what i am saying is not that people who
have these feelings
are coming from nowhere no they have
they have
long-standing tradition
and rituals
and certain perspectives and certain
literature that really makes them feel
this way
education
certain focus no question on a lot of
religious texts
that would affirm this and in fact i
have to tell you every time i speak
about this i always get a few emails
from people who will say
this is completely new stuff this is not
true
this is all fiction this is your own
liberal pop psychology trying to make
yourself popular and making hurt people
feel good but the truth is
fire and brimstone the truth is god is a
zealous god he's a god of vengeance the
truth is every wrong thing you do you're
going to get punished for the truth is
you know
dante's furnace the fires of purgatory
are waiting to consume your soul and
consume your body
and that is the truth that is the
reality
and my response is
i'm not judgmental and i have compassion
and i know where you got this
information from i know the texts very
very well i know the literature very
well i know this style of education
but i want to tell you
that this is ultimately a distortion
of the entire foundation of all
spiritual growth because let's think
about this for a moment are you going to
tell me from a jewish perspective that
god
infinity had nothing better to do with
his life
than conceive a universe right
create struggle create challenge create
lots of opportunities for people to fail
and stumble
lots of opportunities for trauma
and who who of us has not traumatized
only to tell you and by the way when you
fail
i'm here to ignite the fires of hell
to the point that you will remember
who's the boss i mean
this misconception
is is is so beyond absurd it's almost
funny if it wasn't sad
uh it's funny if it wasn't saddened if
it wasn't that so many religious leaders
of every tradition almost
throughout the ages have promoted this
yeah so this is all in in we have a
beautiful expression in our spiritual
literature called an exile mentality
versus a redemptive mentality in hebrew
it's called gullus mentality versus gula
mentality there's a mentality where a
person is completely estranged
it's an immortality of slavery
you know in the ancient
world of slavery
you whipped your slave into obedience
and the reason you whipped you slave
into obedience was because he didn't
want to be there
and he didn't have a right and he
shouldn't have been there he should have
been freed
so you whip them into obedience and we
often use religion in the same way like
god needs to whip you into obedience but
the only reason you have to be whipped
into obedience is because there's no
relationship there's no intimacy there's
no oneness
in a deeper spiritual consciousness it's
about organic
holistic
harmony it's about understanding who you
are the deep spiritual masters have
taught
that god
is really not the word to use i want to
tell you that in kabbalah
the word that's used in lieu of god is
ain't self which means
infinite reality which means the reality
of oneness
the term that we use for god in the
greatest works of jewish philosophy and
in the bible itself is yud hey vavhay
which means existence reality
so somebody tells me rabbi why are we
taking i don't believe in god i'm like
okay good but here's a question do you
believe in reality
of course i believe in reality so i said
so so
that's our definition of god god is
ultimate reality we're all part of
reality we're all in reality reality is
not here to get you reality is you you
are reality reality is you the balshempt
balsham one of the greatest spiritual
masters of judaism he lived in the 17th
he was born in 1698 so he lived at the
end of the 17th in the beginning of the
18th century he was known as the founder
of the hasidic movement
one of the profoundest
movements of jewish spirituality and he
used to say
god is everything and everything is god
he would say it in yiddish god is outs
and also's god and his point was
we are all god we are all in god we are
all reality we are all an aspect of
reality we are in reality it's not like
god exists in heaven
god equals existence it's not when you
say god is big or god a smaller god is
greater god as wonderful or god as this
or that
it's already you i'm already off because
the moment i'm like god is something
you miss the point god is not anything
god is business i just made up a word is
this i s hyphen that word all the time
yes okay i s hyphen n e s s god is
isness god is not
the moment you're like god is feminine
god is masculine god is compassionate
god is big god a small god is great
you're already off target because
there's now duality there's god and
there's me
god is this and i am this god is this
and you are this
no
the word god therefore is very
inaccurate the right word is
reality is not something god is is-ness
business is god
in other words the very core of reality
the very truth of reality
that's how judaism defines god so i tell
them do you believe in reality do you
believe in existence
the name for god in the bible you'd have
of hey
is the essence of existence and all of
us are part of that existence all of us
are an aspect of existence and existence
has dimensions that are completely
mysterious and infinite things we cannot
wrap our brains around plans and visions
and dreams that we cannot wrap our
brains around
and existence
is also part of existence is also so
many you know miracles the miracle of
love and the miracle of birth the
miracle of creation and the miracle of
relationships and the miracle of
intimacy and the miracle of science and
the miracle of discovery and the miracle
of this search for truth and the miracle
of emotional connection emotional
bonding so reality is is so much of what
we know and so much more of what we
don't know
and the uniqueness is that when we
judaism speaks about god it's not just
as
you know a force of nature as spinoza's
definition of god and it's not just a
god that's transcendent and infinite
above nature it's really a synthesis of
the fact that there's no nature outside
of god
but there is also god above nature
because god is not limited to nature so
god is both within and without feminine
and masculine imminent and transcendent
and also
at the core of my heart extremely
personal and intimate
it's something i can address in the most
personal ways like i address my best
friend
and therefore
when the torah speaks about you should
listen to god
another way of saying it is
can you listen to your deepest deepest
voice
can you tune in to the ultimate ultimate
truth of reality
when the torah in the bible says if you
follow god's ways you'll be blessed
if you don't follow god's ways you'll be
cursed it's almost like a geneticist
talking to you and saying let me tell
you about your genetic makeup
let me tell you about your dna let me
tell you about your chemistry let me
tell you about your brain let me tell
you about your blood type and let me
tell you which foods are super foods
which foods are alright and which foods
are toxic
this geneticist is not trying to mix
into your life he's not trying to
destroy your life he's trying to align
your daily diet
with
your genetic makeup with your blood type
so that your adrenaline and your energy
level
is
maximized so your life is actualized i
don't feel lethargic and heavy and
depressed and angry
so when the torah is a blueprint for
life when it gives us rules those rules
are not about repression
those rules are about self-actualization
it's aligning your brain
with its ultimate ultimate power it's
ultimate calling yes there are certain
foods i should not be eating
there are certain behaviors i should
stay away from and there are certain
behaviors i should engage in so i think
it's so important that our generation to
trust people
we don't need to whip anybody into
obedience we don't need to scare people
god is not your enemy you are divine you
are part of infinite reality
god is about tuning into your ultimate
ultimate deepest strength your ultimate
reality and on that reality in that
level of reality beyond my blockages
beyond my distortions
i want to be the best person because
that's who i am
when we can come from that perspective
the entire education and relationship
with god is not just sweetened but it's
completely transformed right
wow
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it's so it's so
profound and so
i don't know poignant
there are a lot of other words for it
also
without this
people either have the choice of
of subjugating themselves to constant
self-judgment and terror
guilt etc shame or to just walk away
and that's
neither road is going to take us where
we right where we're aimed where we're
aimed now which is right transcendence
finding the divine within our own beings
and then exactly the world that that
choice is a very painful choice that
many of us make it's the choice of
either submitting
it's the choice of either submitting
to uh to cynicism
and mockery
and alienation and despair really
because cynicism is really a form of
despair
it's like i won't trust anybody because
i was backstabbed last time
versus versus
the a vision which uh you know causes me
to submit and surrender and feel
mediocre
but there's a much more real authentic
path
and that is you know you don't have to
surrender your individuality and you
don't want to go to a place of fear
on the contrary
you want to go to a place of love and
compassion and you want to understand
that everything you're going through
is really
a gate to deeper awareness
and the deeper awareness is where your
ultimate self and your ultimate values
lay and your ultimate values and your
deepest yearning
is for oneness
for attachment for connection with
yourself
with all of the parts of your brain with
all the all your brains all the parts of
your brain
with others
with reality with the planet with the
cosmos and with the creator of the
cosmos
the mystical torah texts talk about this
kind of experience right we're so in a
certain sense we're in an evolutionary
sense we're aiming for that it's not a
neutral this is
i'm stating this but it's a question not
a neutral experience but actually a
passionate
um
transcendent joyful blissful
experience of union
and you know and they and then you know
they they call the human they call what
we've been going through these millennia
this like crazy insane world of of
terror and anxiety and worry and
suffering and exploitation and
domination and resistance and victimhood
and
tragedy god forbid you know all this we
call this the human condition like
that's just the way it is but really
this is a metamorphosis right into
another completely other version of
ourselves in that relationship which
will project into a different world
so
what what do you see and i guess i'll i
i've taken so much time from you so
i'll end with this question probably
um how do you see that that
metamorphosis how would you advise
people in general on that metamorphosis
how do you move from that deeply
traumatized relationship with god where
where and on what basis where where your
life has shown you that
you know it's it makes sense to be
afraid and it makes sense to feel like
you know either you're being victimized
or you are causing these horrible things
by being a bad
how do you move from that into you know
intimate passionate union with the
ultimate is-ness
how does that happen right
great question the first thing is
through awareness and compassion
not through getting angry at yourself
and judging yourself because that's part
of the old voice which we have to have
compassion for
so don't get angry at yourself don't
judge yourself
the most powerful tool is observation
awareness
awareness means that i can watch that
relationship
going in different directions take take
take it in your own relationships your
own marriages or your own friendships
your own partnerships with people
you know the greatest blessing is not
for me to be perfect because i'm not
perfect
the greatest blessing i can wish on
myself is to always be aware of what's
happening you know if my wife tells me
something
and i can observe the triggers
and i could see where my brain wants to
go
and i can make a conscious choice
to go somewhere else with compassion
so i don't have to repress or deny or
judge or crush what just happened i can
look at it i can have compassion for it
i could realize where it's coming from
and then i could say
but i'm gonna choose to react from a
place of confidence and wholeness
and inner health and inner resilience
i'm gonna make believe i'm not
traumatized
i'm gonna teach my brain that it doesn't
have to react
like a traumatized little victim
my brain doesn't have to become a
crocodile or a lizard coping for
you know valid coping to trying to
survive
and with compassion i can then tell my
brain i'm going to respond from a place
of wholeness as though i was amazingly
healthy
and you know what happens after 60 times
there are new neural pathways in which
your trauma is not dominating you now we
sometimes need a lot of help and a lot
of support we sometimes need real
professionals to help us release our
trauma sometimes my trauma is paralyzing
me and i can't do this on my own
i need certain external
methods
of people or various substances that can
help me grant it
but the key is always the awareness and
i think this is also true in our
spiritual evolution
you know if you're standing to pray if
you're getting up to pray or sitting
down to pray or you're involved in some
type of conversation or religious
experience
you know watch watch your reactions when
my reaction is one of me tensing up and
becoming uptight and angry and
judgmental
just watch it with compassion because
then you can make choices you know if
you're sitting down to your passover
seder table
or your saturday your sabbath table i'm
talking in the religious jewish
tradition or other traditions
and you're finding yourself uptight
angry
critical judgmental judgmental towards
your children judgmental towards
yourself judgmental towards your spouse
just be aware of what's happening
and then ask yourself
can i give myself permission
to try to experience a vulnerable
visceral experience of intimate
connection and love
and when we continuously do this we will
all be surprised pleasantly surprised
by our ability to be able to engage in a
delightful blissful experience rather
than one that's dominated by fear
judgment
scorn
and most importantly
dread
and fright
so basically turning the key of this is
turning it's turning inward tuning
inward yes always and rather than
outward
always yes yes
yeah so it is it too okay
this is the call of the hour
this work that this is the call of the
hour i i think it's one of the great
calls of the hour certainly
okay thank you uh thank you for staying
with us so long and for all of this
pressure
it's obvious that there's
immense wellsprings full of more but uh
we want to give you we want to give
everybody here a chance to actually
have uh have some of that more thank you
so anyway if you can just let the
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for everybody who wants to get to know
more about your work sure sure those who
those who are interested would be my uh
my delightful and blissful pleasure
to be able to uh engage with you and to
be able to call become closer to you and
be able to
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that
helps anchor us
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as you said hopefully yeah if we do it
constantly and the most important thing
is to internalize it and to act on it
you know to internalize it viscerally
and to act on it so it doesn't just
remain an intellectual idea
if you wish i can also send you a few
videos for beginners that will help
initiate you
into this deeper consciousness and
finally i send out a weekly newsletter a
weekly essay
that's dedicated to these concepts of
applying them and internalizing them
which i'm very happy to send you
um if you want to sign up and we could
continue that special relationship
and i think each and every one of us to
remember the most important thing you
know empower yourself
remember that each and every single one
of us is an ambassador we were not
conceived randomly
we were conceived with love and each of
us is part of a global and
personal mission
each of us is an ambassador an
ambassador of love light hope healing
authenticity wisdom and redemptive
consciousness
you know each and every person that you
meet in the supermarket in the street
the gas station in a hospital in a
doctor's office in the gym
wherever it is every single person i
meet people i know and people i don't
know i have an opportunity to really
become an ambassador of a deeper
consciousness and the effects
are incredible beyond
our imagination and thank you for the
opportunity
thank you so much so to all the
listeners the link to this to rabbi
jacobson's special gift um take
advantage it's underneath this video
take advantage please do not regret it
um the priceless information and
connections absolutely free thank you
thank you
and i just want to bless everybody and i
want to bless everybody ultimately it
boils down to how you see yourself when
i wake up in the morning i can either
look at myself
as just you know a heap of bones and
sinews and cells
which is true
and a lot of neurons who are fire firing
away and competing for my attention
and that's one way of looking at
yourself but there's another way you
know
i think when you wake up in the morning
when i wake up in the morning you really
look at yourself and say i'm an
ambassador of god
my soul was sent down here
and whatever happens to me today is part
of that journey it's part of that
mission it's not a mistake whether i get
stuck in traffic or my plane gets
cancelled you know whether i get a
ticket or i get a bill that's
uncomfortable small things or big things
random things intentional things it's
all part of an opportunity and a mission
i was sent here
to really be an ambassador of light and
healing and love and i want to seize
those opportunities every single day
thank you amazing amazing
thank you so much god bless you all
thank you for the honor
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