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So, welcome everybody to our special
class this evening. And before I begin,
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So please open your source sheets
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by the labava makis kin the secret of
Jewish history. There is a source sheet
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I mentioned this a few times. The
labavereb
would present sum on makus which means
he would conclude trackct dates of gumar
sometimes the whole shas a few times a
year usually at the fabangans associated
with the art sites the rebba would make
a ona
this that we're going to learn today the
rebba said on of lad the 20th of of 1977
the 20th of of course is the yard of his
Father
and each year on the Reb would hold a
longen and among the highlights of the
fabangan was a grand would make a seum
on a ma and is exploring the the lumbus
and the pillp and the meaning of the end
of the ma and the beginning of the maka.
Some of those sus these sum are what you
may call timeless classics. Just a few
weeks ago, we learned together the
was also said on
that was
1971. But today we're going to learn
1977 and this is a sem that the made on
Mishnay Mishnay
Kinim which is the last track date of
Sedar Kachum. So he said then that he's
making a seum on
his kin and the whole sed kachum the
whole order the section of shas of
kachchum and the last mishna is which
doesn't have gimmor on it is kinnam and
the was continued on the shabas of
parishes of lammed and then continued
shab
and these were compiled and edited and
parts of them were published in is
volume 17 the second for parasy
as most of these they were said in
Yiddish and they were transcribed in
Yiddish so we're going to learn them in
Yiddish and of course I will translate
for those who don't have or have
mastered the Yiddish language okay so
please open your source sheets let's
begin before we begin the actual as
always we need a little introduction to
be able to understand the concept so it
all begins with an innocent pekk in the
opening of paras tazria
The Torah speaks about the opening of is
a woman gives birth either to a male, to
a female, to a boy or to a girl. And
there is an obligation for a woman who
gave birth to bring an offering to bring
a carbine after a certain period of time
following the birth either of the male
child or the female child. As the Tyra
says, if you open up your source sheets,
you'll see the source sheets. We have
the sika sik is there right but at the
end of the we have the actual source
sheets the project has prepared that's
page 11 in your source sheet so please
go there page 11 and there you have the
first source
Leviticus 12 verse 7 and 8
when the days of purity are up either
for the birth of a son or the birth of a
daughter. The mother ought to bring a
sheep as a carbon as an offering and in
addition to that a second offering
either a young pigeon called a baya or a
turtle dove called a she brings it as a
katas known as a sin offering and she
brings it of course to the sanctuary to
the mishk related to the mik where the
cen would offer it and the continues
I'm sorry I said this is verse
What happens if she can't afford of
sheep because of poverty?
Then the woman takes either two turtle
doves or two young pigeons, two young
doves, and she offers one is an a
complete burnt offering that's called
anah. And the other one is a katas, a
sin offering. And the cayenne shall
affect atonement. and she becomes
completely pure. So we have her two
options that the Tyra gives. Option
number one is if she can afford it, she
brings one offering which is a sheep and
the other one which is a young pigeon or
a turtle dove or if she's poor she
brings two offerings but both of them
are turtle doves or both of them are
young pigeons and of course that would
be much more affordable because a sheep
would be much more expensive and pricey
than a bird and this becomes an offering
of an island and an offering of a katus
kin. What does kinm mean? The word kain
is the talmutic term, the Mishna term
for a pair of birds. So when a poor
woman brings two birds and you have to
understand that there were only two
types of birds that were allowed to be
brought as a carbon in the basik only
two. There weren't many types of birds
that you could bring. Even kosher birds
most of the birds are kosher. Only two
types of birds you could bring to the
basikt or to the mishk as an offering.
Only a tur and a bea. a young pigeon, a
benign and a turtle dove. That's it.
Kane kufun in today we call Khan as a
nest. But Kain here is not a nest. It's
a pier of birds which means a set of two
birds that the woman brings as an
offering. And by the way, there were
another five instances where people were
obligated men or women to bring a pair
of birds as an offering to the B mdish.
Another five instances in Allah. Most of
the cases were women who brought them
after birth. But you have the case of a
z and a za. You have the case of a mats,
a leper when he becomes pure also has to
bring two birds. You also have the case
of a nazer who becomes impure. You have
six cases in aloha where you bring
six scenarios in aloha where you bring
specifically it's actually more than six
but six scenario where you bring two
birds. This is called a kane. A cane is
a set a pair of birds. One becomes a
carbon one becomes a carbonus. Why do
you need a track date for Mishnayas for
this? is kin. Kinim is the plural of
kain. Kain is one pair and kinm are
peers of birds, sets of birds because
here's the issue. The issue is as
follows. The processing of a carbon was
very different than the processing of a
carbon katas in different ways. But one
of the primary differences is what you
did with the blood after the cayenne
killed the bird. And there was a process
how he how he killed the bird which was
called malika through the nape of the
bird. and the bird died which was akin
to slaughtering but it wasn't
slaughtered. It was a different process
called malika.
The cayenne needed to uh place part of
the blood of the bird on the msb on the
altar which is done by every single
carbon. But here is a difference between
the and the bird that was brought as a
carbon and the bird that was carbon the
bird that was brought of carbon the
blood had to be placed on the higher
part of the altar. The altar, the
misbay, was divided by autikra by a red
string that was a division between the
higher part of the altar and the lower
part of the altar. When there was a bird
that was brought as an the blood was
placed on the higher part when there was
a katas, the blood was placed on the
lower part. We learn out from the that
if you confuse the two, which means the
goes to the lower part and the katas
goes to the higher part, the carbon is
invalid. It's disqualified.
So here is the issue of most of the
track day deals with a situation where
birds get mixed up. The carbon bird gets
mixed up with the carbon bird and that
creates a confusion what should be done
and this is what the maka deals with in
so many different scenarios. It has
three chapters and it goes through very
many scenarios after it establishes in
the beginning of the trackctate the main
rules governing the bird and the katas
bird. We now come to the last Mishna of
Messim and again there's three chapters.
So this is the last Mishna of the third
chapter. The last Mishna is a very
complicated one. A lot of mathemat many
mathematical equations a lot of
calculations you have to hold in it's
called cup you have to keep focused
because there's a lot of complexities of
how it works. But here is the thrust of
the issue and that is a major confusion
happens and when this major confusion
happens we get into a big mess and the
question is what we do. So let's see see
you your second source in the sources.
This is the last mission of
a woman who said
she says you know if God grants me this
blessing and I'm going to give birth to
my baby boy I want to bring a cane a
pair of birds as a special contribution
to Hashem to the B mikdash. Now
it happens. She had a baby. Everything
is good.
She now has to bring two pairs of
beards. Two pairs of birds.
One is because she made a special
pledge. The second is because she has an
obligation like any other mother who
gives birth. So she actually brings four
birds. Remember every woman who gives
birth is obligated to bring an aus after
birth. either it's a sheep and a bird or
it's two birds. But this woman decided
to go the extra mile. And she says
specifically, if I have a baby boy, I am
pledging, I am making a promise to give
a special contribution, a special
nether. She makes a special promise that
she's going to give an extra
contribution, a cane, a set of beards, a
set of birds. Now, when you contribute a
set of birds to the ba mikosh simply as
a pledge, it's not coming because of
obligation. Both of them are carbonas.
When she brings her obligatory offering,
then one is an one is a katus. But when
she makes a pledge to bring an offering,
that pledge doesn't include a sin
offering. There's nothing about a sin.
It's like a donation. It's not about a
sin. So therefore, both of those birds
are going to both be brought as a
carbon. So the Mishna says she has to
bring two sets of birds. One to fulfill
her ne her promise and one to fulfill
her obligation which every woman who
gives birth has an obligation to bring a
carbon.
She gives them to the
kaya now has to offer four birds but
three of them he sprinkles the blood on
the higher part of the altar and one on
the lower part of the altar. Why?
Because in the obligatory set of birds,
one is anah. So the blood goes on the
higher part of the msb and one is a kas.
The blood goes on the lower part of the
misb. In the pledge that she offered,
it's two birds and they're both ana. So
they both go on the higher part of the
misbeh. So that's why he says three
birds the blood is placed on the higher
part of the altar and one bird the blood
is placed on the lower part of the
altar. Everything is good. If the Mishna
would end here, we would be able to go
to sleep very nicely this evening.
came. The problem is he didn't do this.
Why didn't he do this? Presumably, as
some commentators say, she came, she was
in a rush, he was in a rush, she was
stressed, he was stressed. I don't know
what is happening. She gave him two sets
of birds. He naturally assumed both of
these are obligatory offerings. He
didn't realize that one of these sets is
coming because of a personal pledge she
made. Maybe he thought she had twins.
Maybe he thought she was bringing it on
behalf of her sister-in-law or behalf of
a friend of hers. He didn't realize. So
what happened?
So two of the birds he placed the blood
on top of the altar. Two of the birds he
placed the blood on top of the on the
bottom of the altar. He didn't speak to
her. He didn't consult her. He did this
on her own. If he would have spoken to
her, he would have realized that what
that he's not doing well because three
of them are only one is but he thought
two of them are in two of them areas. So
what happens?
So now we have a problem. The problem is
that one of her ilas is not good because
the blood was placed on the bottom and
it's a very serious thing by carbonas.
Carbonus is a very serious thing. You
know, you sanctify an animal or a bird
or a meal offering and it becomes sacred
and this is going to become something
that's going to ascend to the divine and
every detail counts. How it's processed
and how it's slaughtered and where the
blood is placed and what it's what you
do with the animal afterwards. So here
we have a serious problem. So what does
she have to do? She has to bring one
more birdon.
And this he offers on top. He places the
blood on the higher part of the altar.
In other words, three of the birds are
good. Three of the birds are good
because remember three he did on top and
one he did on bottom. So three of them
is good. The problem is I'm sorry. Three
of them are good because he did two on
top and two on bottom. The problem is
one of them was disqualified because the
second set of birds was brought as her
personal pledge and both of them had to
be done on top and he did one of them on
bottom remember. So therefore she has to
bring another praa another bird and this
bird is offered as her final bird as
part of the set which was her neb her
personal pledge and of course he offers
it la. This is the first
mess that was created. But she just
brought one bird. This is mim of all the
four were brought from one species. Now
the Mishna intensifies the mess and
therefore the complications and
therefore the compensations. And the
mission now goes through a scenario
where instead of having to bring one
more bird, she'll have to bring two
more. And then a case where she has to
bring three. And then a case where she
has to bring four. And then a case where
she has to bring five. And then a case
where she has to bring six. And then a
case where she has to bring seven new
birds. Such a mess was created. The last
case of this Mishna is that she has to
bring seven new birds. Initially she had
to bring four, two sets. What's called a
cane and a cane. But because of the mess
and the final mess is the biggest mess.
She take take a look at the final mess
a few lines later.
She gave her birth to the do
she doesn't remember which birds she
gave him. Here's the problem. The
problem is she designated which species
she wants to use for her pledge. She
didn't just say any bird of the two
birds. the turtle dove of the she
specified which one
she gave the birds to the kind she
doesn't remember what she gave
now he went and he processed it and he
doesn't remember what he did and he
sprinkled it on top did he sprinkle it
on bottom so there's a major colossal
mess here
she has to bring another four for her
pledge
another two for her obligation because
she specified ide which particular bird
she wants for her pledge and she doesn't
know what she gave. So she now has to
bring four for her pledge. Instead of
two, she has to bring another four. And
then she has to bring another two for
her obligation.
Why? Because her obligatory offerings
may have also been disqualified because
the kayen doesn't remember how he
process it. Did he put it on top of put
it on the bottom of the she also has to
bring another sin offering?
The commentators go into detail to
figure out exactly what is happening
here in every single one of the
scenarios. And benaz
has to bring another two sin offerings
which means she has to bring another
eight birds. Wow. Now I'm not going to
go into all the calculations right now.
Everybody can open up a kin and take
your time and your patience and learn it
slowly with the commentaries. There's
different approaches to this Mishna. is
the approach of the bartan, the approach
of Rashi, the approach of the Rambam,
the approach of Teer. It's it's complex
and it's nuanced. It's fascinating. But
the bottom line here is that if you just
realized how this thing evolved or
devolved the first case was that Cayenne
made a simple mistake, an innocent
mistake, and it cost her another bird.
One more bird. Okay, instead of four,
she brings five. But as the mess
intensifies, it's costing her more and
more. And then in the grand finale of
Messim, she's bringing seven new birds
and according to Benazi, eight new
birds. Initially, she was obligated to
bring four birds. Two for her obligatory
offering, two for her pledge for her ne.
Now, because of this amazing mixup, she
got mixed up. He got mixed up. They both
got mixed up. If one of them got mixed
up, it's also a mess. But when both of
them get mixed up on every level,
everything that went wrong could go
wrong basically. So, she can't even
bring four. You can say, "Okay, let's
just start over again. Let's just bring,
you know, well, let's scratch this.
Let's bring another four birds." Which
would have made sense, right? It's not
going to work. The reason your four
birds are not going to work anymore is
because she specified what species she
needs to fulfill. What species she's
going to bring to fulfill for her pledge
and she has to fulfill that because if
not, her pledge wasn't fulfilled.
Because a pledge on Nether is very
serious. It becomes a serious commitment
in the world and therefore she has to
bring seven new birds but Nazi says
eight.
Now we come to the next stage.
Now here is where the Mishna becomes
absolutely I mean it's fascinating till
now but it's fascinating on a different
level. But here the mission takes a very
sharp turn and from complicated
mathematical nuances and details
intricate
of how kin work and how an works and
howas work and how confusions work and
how peers work and how pledges work. The
Mishna now takes a sharp turn
said
this what you just heard in this Mishna
this is what they said who's they he
doesn't say who's they what they said
this is what they said what did they say
they said
When he is alive,
he possesses one sound.
When he is dead,
his sound is sevenfold.
Again, when he's alive, he has one
sound. When he's dead, he has seven
sounds. His his uh his sound is doubled,
tripled, etc., quadrupled, sevenfold.
His his voice ka is his voice becomes
sevenfold.
What do we mean by this? What do we mean
when we say that his sound is sevenfold?
Who are we even talking about? So, as
the commentators say, we're talking
about a sheep. We're talking about a
ram. We're talking about a beast. He
doesn't say it specifically.
The Reb suggested then in the talk that
um
the offering of a woman when she gives
birth is a sheep. Unless she's poor, she
brings two birds. He doesn't even have
to specify it. That we're talking about
a sheep or we're talking about a ramp, a
Kevas.
So when it's alive, it has one voice.
When it's dead, it has seven.
What do we mean by this? Says Rabbi
Yeshua.
The two horns of the ram are turned into
two trumpets.
The two leg bones are turned into two
flutes.
The skin is transformed into a drum. May
of the intestines lavalum
are used for the strings of a liar. A
liar is one of those stringed
instruments. So he says the hide is
turned into a drum and the intestines
the intrails are turned in to strings
for the liar. And then the Misha
continues
the large intestines are used for the
strings of a harp. A kir is a harp.
So this is what we use the large
intestines for.
And R Yeshua says
this is the seven voices. You see, when
the sheep is alive, when the ram is
alive, when the beast is alive, it has
one sound.
It dies and suddenly it has seven. Let's
think about this. Two horns became two
trumpets. That's two. Two leg bones, two
thighs became two flutes. That's four.
The skin, the hide, became a drum.
That's five.
The intestines became liars. That's six.
And the large intestines became harps.
That's seven. So you turned you took the
various organs of this animal and you
turned them into seven instruments which
are producing seven different sounds.
And some say
the wool of the sheep can also be used
to make
is of course the turquoise color with
which wool was dyed. And this is
referring to the commentators say the
robe of the cayen. The mil was made out
of it was wool taken from a sheep shared
from a sheep that was dyed with the
turquoise color of on the hem of the
robe. There were what's called
bells that would make noise so it
produced another sound and near those
bells you had made of you had uh woolen
pomegranates they were shaped in a
pomegranate and the bells banged into
them pounded into them and made noise.
So this is another source of noise
another sound that comes from the sheep
from the wool. So we have eight and of
course this parallels the point view
view of Ben Azai because the first
opinion was that the most the most birds
that the woman would have to bring to
compensate for the mess is seven but
Benaz said eight. So Yeshua says ah this
is what they said when the sheep is
alive it has one voice one sound the
sheep died it has seven or maybe eight.
The Mishna continues
said
old people who are they're ignorant
the older they get the more they become
confused
the verse says in Job 12
Hashem removes the language of the loyal
ones and the flavor of the elers ly he
takes away or the reasoning of the
elderly he sometimes takes away.
came but elders of
those who are saturated with
or
in the source they put in there's
another version
I believe
yeah elders of
the older they get
their mind becomes more settled
it says in 12
in old age there's wisdom
and in the length of days there is
understanding and this concludes
and the entire kum which reads into
what is the point of these last two
statements in the Mishna what does it
mean so the commentators explain if you
look up ra of bartinura the classic
commentary on the dra the bartinura or
you look in the commentary of Rambam on
Mishnay and other commentators their
point is as follows.
Rabbi Yeshua is trying to give us an
explanation and he says this is such a
strange phenomenon. The strange
phenomenon is what a woman wanted to
bring four birds and she ends up
bringing seven or eight. How do you make
sense out of this? So said, "Ah, this is
what they said." When the sheep was
alive, it produced one sound.
When it died, you would think that sound
would be over. It's dead. Suddenly, it
produces seven sounds.
This woman, initially, when she brought
her offerings and she made the pledge,
she had to bring two sets of birds, only
four. Right now, there's a mess. There's
a confusion. It's like when the sheep
dies, everything gets confused.
Everything changes. And what happens?
There's many more sounds. There's many
more voices. There's many more birds
that are brought. There's seven birds.
There's eight birds. Just like the sheep
after it's dead has seven sounds or
eight sounds that come from the
instruments that are fashioned from the
various organs of the sheep.
Or as the Rambam puts it,
when the sheep dies and essentially
deteriorates, it loses its value. It's
dead.
Suddenly, you could do so many more
mitzvah with it because you can take the
various parts and make trumpets out of
them, chaers out of them, various
musical instruments that would play in
the B mikdash or at other wonderful
occasions and actually fulfill mitzvah
with these instruments. as a result of
the sheep's death. If the sheep of the
ram wouldn't die, you could never do it.
So the ram says as a result of the ter
deterioration. Now you can have a
forash, you can have a trumpet for the
bame mikdash, you can have a for the b
mikdash, you can have a drum in the b
mikdash, a harp, a liar. These were all
instruments that were used in the ba
mikdish on a daily level for the musical
concertos that the Levites would the
levian would conduct in the ba mikt. The
kangle can have a robe with
pomegranates. All because the ram has
died here too. As a result of the mess,
as a result of the confusion, we have so
many more birds that have brought us
carbonas.
What's the connection with the last
piece? What's the connection with the
last piece? Elderly,
what's the connection? Same point, says
the barton. When the sheep died, what
happened? The sounds increased.
[Music]
Mute mute yourself.
They got to mute themselves.
The sheep died. What happened? More
voices, more sounds. A person gets
older. What happens? Their body
deteriorates. People get weaker. So he
says those who are ignoramis indeed they
become weaker and their minds become
weaker. But the sages of what happens
even though you would expect them to
become more feeble because of their
physical weakness what happens their
wisdom grows here too
as the as as the situation becomes more
complicated and more problematic like
the person getting older and older you
would expect a decline. What happens?
The woman ends up bringing seven more
offerings or according to Benaza eight
more offerings. Okay, this is the basic
classic understanding of this
fascinating Mishna at the end of
Messkin.
I hope it's clear at least on some
level.
Now let's go to the itself.
Please go to the itself. We had the
source sheet. So now go to the top and
let's go to the Sikh itself. If you go
to the source sheets again, page one,
two, three. If you go to the
yeshiva.net, you can open your source
sheets, it's page 131, third page. When
you start scrolling down from the source
sheet, you see there's a star and it
says
now
the first we just did, so I'm not going
to do it again. He basically quotes the
Mishna, the whole Mishna till the end
and he quotes the commentators who
explain what the Mishna means which I
just went through with you inside the
Mishna. I want to go to the next page
bay bay begin the questions the classic
questions on this Mishna very very
powerful questions which teach you how
to learn a Mishna base
According
to the above, we really have to
understand something. Number one,
But they
is moving us in
says,
"I don't understand.
You're looking for some type of concrete
illustration
that there was one entity and through a
mess, through a deteriorate, through a
deteriorating process, it went from one
to seven or eight.
You can give so many examples and he
says take the most concrete example of
assets.
A father is alive and all of his assets
and all of his money belong to whom? To
one person. He passes away and what
happens. If he has seven children. He
has seven ears. Now the same property
belong to seven people.
Ownership gets increased by sevenfold.
Instead of one person owning the
property, now you have seven people
owning the property. Now you have seven
opinions, now you have seven people
involved. Now suddenly there's seven
people who got it.
And what does that mean? So you say,
"Okay, but it's not connected here.
There's new carbonas." He says, "No."
So a lot of new things happen. There's a
lot of there's seven there's seven or
maybe eight people. If there's eight
children or seven children or as many
children as there are
they can all be diff doing different
types of things and there's also many
more mitzvah. Why? Because as long as
the father had all this property
so he had mitzvah on him whatever the
mitzvah were. But now every child who is
an ear has his own obligation in all of
the mitzvah connected to property. For
example, when you have a field, you have
a mitzvah of pa. The corner of the field
you have to leave for the poor. You have
a mitzvah of bikurim, the new fruits
that grow from the seven species with
which I just saw was praised. You have
to fill up a basket with them and bring
them to bring them to and give them to
the cayenne. and all of the other
mitzvah, whether you're dealing with
trumas and mice, there's so many mitzvah
that are connected to agriculture.
Before it was one mitzvah, one person.
Now it's seven different mitzvah on each
child who has his own
field. So if you had one huge field, you
now divided the field. So if you had one
let's say one big field right so the
field had one mitzvah of pay one mitzvah
of now you divided the field into seven
different properties. So now everyone
has their own mitzvah of pay their own
mitzvah of just like by the woman who
was gave birth by the
as the situation apparently became more
messy. She now has many more mitzvah.
It seems like Yeshua finds a very
interesting example of a sheep
or a ram
whose voice whose sound was one and
suddenly became seven.
It seems like there's something about
this illustration that is more
appropriate than any other example. But
what is it? If it's just the idea that
when situations become worse, they often
increase. There's new opportunity and
there's things that are added and things
that are increased. You can bring other
examples.
That's number one.
is the bottle.
You can't say maybe the Mishna needs to
bring this example because an
inheritance wouldn't work. You know why?
Because by kin and by the birds there's
no change in the offerings that she had
to bring. She just has to add. In other
words, by the original one is gone. By
kinim there's no change in the offerings
that she had to bring. She just has to
add more. The originals remain here.
It's gone. The Moish's bottle. But by
the Kevas is the same thing. The sheep
is also gone. That original voice is
gone. When the sheep dies, there's no
man anymore. It's substituted into new
sounds. You might want to say the reason
he didn't want to bring an example from
Yusha is because the father is gone. He
passes away. And now the children take
over. But the original one is not there
anymore. So it's not like kin because by
kinm it's not like she passed away. It
means there's no change in the kbonas
that she had to bring. She had to bring
but now she brings more. She adds to
them.
In fact some of them may have been
kosher. In fact maybe in some cases it
may have worked out. We just don't know.
But if that's the case the sheep is also
not a good example because that original
sheep is gone. base.
We don't just bring especially in
Mishnayas, you don't just bring parables
to entertain people. You learn
Mishnayas, you'll see that's not what
happens. If a parable or an allegory or
a metaphor is brought, it's in order to
make it palpable, to make it
understandable, fathomable,
to bring it down to a person's mind. The
Rambam says right here in his
commentary, the Rambam and Mishnaya says
that the concept was strange. So Yeshua
felt the need to illustrate it. The Reb
says, "Grant it." But where do you get
more understanding from this al from
this parable of a sheep? It's very
interesting to think about the fact that
the sheep died and its organs are turned
into musical instruments and one sound
became seven. One voice became seven
voices. One sound became seven sounds.
Granted, but how does that give us an
explanation or a deeper or clearer
understanding in this very concept
which means that apparently the parable
is not serving a purpose. What's the
purpose?
of
it's a very interesting question. The
language of Rab Yeshua is this is what
they said
when a sheep is alive it has one sound
when it dies it sound
becomes sevenfold
he doesn't say like they said about the
sheep or let me give an example from the
sheep he says this is what they said
about the sheep it sounds like he's not
only trying to explain our mission in
kingdom he's also trying to explain the
statement about the sheep
You understand? If he would have said,
let me give you a metaphor. When a sheep
is alive, it has one sound. When it
dies, it has seven. Okay? So, he's
giving a parable to explain the mission
and the language of
this is what they said. It's almost like
now you'll understand what they said. Zo
this is the meaning of what they said.
Now, you'll understand what they said.
It's almost it seems like he's trying to
explain also and maybe even more
what they said about the sheep as though
that's the focus. So obviously
what is he trying to explain their
statements of somebody who said
something? Who's the one who said this?
That's what is the person who said this
statement and Yeshua feels that now my
job is to explain what that guy said.
Whoever said it, whoever was the author
of that comment about the sheep, I have
to explain it. And let me tell you, oh,
now we understand it. But the truth is
the basic question is what he asks here
is you don't need an explanation. It's
it's a it's it's it's part of nature.
And it's a very obvious and self
understood reality.
When a sheep dies,
it's dead. It's lifeless. But its organs
are used into instruments. And suddenly
one sound became seven. I get it. It's a
fascinating natural phenomena. Does it
need an explanation?
So Yeshua says
this is
as though we have to explain this
statement about a sheep.
And now he's the Reb is going to add
what I just said a moment ago.
Since when is it the mission statement
of Mishnay or generally to give
explanations on statements said by
people in the world?
So somebody made such a statement about
a sheep. It's a very interesting
statement. Let's say it is a very
complex statement and it needs
explanation.
Is this the function of Mishnayas
to start explaining what people say
about sheep?
So the so we have three questions.
When said this, he didn't just mean to
give a parable from something that's
said in the world. He's actually saying
something that's relevant to and that's
what he means.
The explanation in the
about a sheep and the difference between
a live sheep and a dead sheep. You can
take out you can deduce from the and
about the offerings of a mother after
she gave birth.
So to sum summarize B sum question
number one is why not just give a
simpler example of a father who died and
his inheritance got split up and
increased and from one owner there are
seven owners with many more mitzvah.
Number two,
a parable is here to explain, to
illustrate, to add understanding. Where
do we gain, where do we glean more
understanding through this parable?
Okay. The sheep died and there's seven
sounds. Granted, seven musical
instruments between the trumpets and the
drum and the liar and the harp. Granted.
How does that really explain what
happened here? The woman forgot what she
did. The cayenne forgot what he did.
There's a colossal mess and she has to
bring seven new birds.
Will you giving me explanation? Now,
most people when they learn the mission,
they don't have these questions. You
know why? Why not? Okay, it's a
metaphor.
That's not how you learn a Mishna.
That's not how you learn a Mishna. The
Mishna is not here just to tell stories,
to entertain people, to put you to sleep
with stories. Every word in Mishna is
meticulous and precise. There's epis
here. There's a here. There's a here
that's being conveyed. What is it? Third
question is
Yeshua's language intimates that he's
not just explaining our Mishna. He's
also interested in explaining the story
of the sheep that died as though it's
some sacred story, some children's story
that somebody made up that when a sheep
died and suddenly seven sounds. It's a
very natural phenomena and that's what
he wants to explain.
This is what they said. It's almost like
this statement is some sacred old
tradition from the days of Yor that was
passed down by some of the greats. Where
does this come from? It's a statement.
Who said it? No. Tana said it. No. No.
Tana said it. No. Pik said it. No. No
said it.
In they say
the world says it's okay. It's one of
those quotable quotes.
I have no issue with quotable quotes,
but it's like this is what they said.
First of all, it doesn't explain our
Mishna. Second of all, it seems like he
wants to explain that quote.
But you don't have to explain that
quote. The quote is very obvious. It
makes sense. You don't have to explain
it. And even if you did, is this the job
of Mishnayas? Is this the job of Is this
the job of By the way, when Reb asked
the question, he added the Gmorrah says
was
he was considered the wisest Jew of the
day.
In fact, all of the major debates
against the philosophers of non-Jewish
philosophers of the time were conducted
by Yeshua. There's a whole suguh
by the way Yeshua was a ley he served as
a levy at the end of the era of the
second basikdesh. So he knew about the
musical instruments. Just I just thought
about this. He knew about the musical
instruments in the B mikdish because he
would sing or he would play music. He
was a musician or a or a vocalist but he
was a ley who was in the B. He's one of
the
and he was there at the and he was a
great debater. He debated the sages of
Athens
60 sages of Athens the the Greek
philosophers during the Roman era. So
Yeshua was a brilliant, brilliant,
brilliant man. So the Reb said that Rab
Yeshua is not just coming here to tell
us little stories or give us cute
metaphors. Rabhua was saying something.
There's profound any but certainly
Yeshua.
So what do we have to learn? What do we
have to say here is not just telling us
statements and giving us explanations.
What they said is not the somebody said
it. There's something of that's being
said here.
Now you'll understand what they said.
And this
comes out from our Mishna. But what what
is it? Very hard to understand. It's not
clear.
Next step.
We already said this the last part of
the Mishna is about the different types
of people who get old, those who are
they are ignorant and those who are
saturated with and the connection is
that even when they get old
men and women of even when they get old
and they become weak Their wisdom only
increases.
Get over
four questions asked. Question number
one,
why are you putting in here the negative
that ignorant people, the older they
get, the more confused their mind gets?
What's the point? That's not the theme
you're trying to convey. So, scratch it.
Delete that part. What do you need it
for? As the Reb said in the generally
the avoids speaking disgracefully about
people, even about animals says
the beginning.
They don't even like to speak negatively
about an uncosher animal. That's just an
an in an addition in parenthesis, but
it's not relevant here. Why are you
talking about elderly people who are
that their mind gets confused? Number
one. Number two, what's the Mishna?
Everybody knows as people get older and
they get weaker, it affects their mental
capacity, physical strength and physical
decline and decline in a person's health
and a person becomes weaker. It affects
also their their intellectual keenness
and acuteness and sharpness. It's it's
unfortunately it's part of the natural
phenomena of of aging.
So he says my what's the
first of all why is it relevant here?
Why are you inserting it here? And
second of all it's it's obvious when
people get older yeah they become more
confused.
Things change. the body changes and the
brain changes. I mean, we all know this.
Question number three,
it's opposite of what you're trying to
bring out. The Mishna is trying to bring
out
how precisely through the decline there
is an increase
through the mess that happened in the
Bikd forgot, the woman forgot, there's
more. So, how do you bring that out?
by telling me that the older they get,
the wiser they get. Beautiful. When you
tell me about it's the exact opposite
point. The older you get, the less it
gets, not the more it gets. And number
four, even if you want to say it because
you want to contrast it, say it at the
end. The main point is
should have said like this.
The older they get, the more they their
mind becomes settled.
And then even if you feel the need to
contrast which is also doesn't seem
necessary you could say afterwards and
by the way is the opposite because
that's your point your point is your
point is not
it's very strange four big questions of
the
we're going to get into the explanation
now before that I'm going to tell you a
cute story
I was once invited to speak at a very
big event in Israel in Isra
They told me that I'm going to go up at
10:00. There were maybe four or 5,000
people there.
This was in Kabat
and I was supposed to go up at 10:00.
I came there. I was waiting,
but every few minutes another dignitary
was coming and they had to give him the
mic. You had members of the Knesset,
members of the Israeli parliament,
upstanding and famous celebrities and
politicians and ministers. So they kept
on coming in. So they kept on giving
them the mic and delaying my speech
further and further. The RV of Kabad at
the time was a Jew named
Ashkanazi Ashkanazi.
I guess he noticed that I was somewhat
upset. So he called me over and he said
let me tell you a story and this is the
story that Rabbi Ashkenazi shared with
me. He said there was once a rabbinic
conference this is precond world war and
there were two rabbinic figures at the
conference. The first was the gone srauf
roen who passed away in 1936. Tinus
tinus mtdam was one of the greatest
minds in many many generations. the rag
gone. was and there was another rabbi
there who was more modernized more what
we would call progressively
and his scholarship did not come
anywhere close to the rakach nor did his
spiritual integrity come close to the
rakach the question was who's going to
address the conference first so this
rabbi understanding the greatness of the
rakach gone told the rakach reb you
speak first
said no no no no you speak first he said
why do I get the honor of speaking came
before the soach told him as follows.
Was very sharp. He was not diplomatic.
He said as follows. It's based on a
mission in
ignorant people. The older they get, the
more confused they get. Scholars, the
older they get, the wiser they get. So
he says as follows, you are an Amorus.
The longer we delay your speech, the
older you're going to get, the more your
mind will become confused. The more
stupidity will come out of your mouth.
He says, "By me, it's the opposite. If
we delay my speech, I'm going to get a
little older. My mind will become more
settled. I'll have what to say better
than what I had to say before." This is
what told this person. So, Rabbi
Ashkenazi tells me, he says, "Rabbi,
it's a compliment. They're delaying your
speech later and later because they
trust that the older you get, the more
settled you become and the words that
will emerge afterwards will be even
better and wiser and deeper and more
authentic than the words that were said
earlier.
It was very nice, very nice way to calm
me down and indeed I went up very very
late. I think after midnight or close to
midnight
here is the key of the explanation. What
does the Reb want to do? Now the Reb is
now going to go to the core of the
Mishna.
There's the mathematics of the Mishna.
There's the nuances of the Mishna, the
intricacies of the Mishna. But now we
have to go to the core of the Mishna.
What you call Satamas, the quintessence
of the Mishna. What's the real point
here of the Mishna? And when we can get
to that, we'll understand what Yeshua is
telling us.
This whole Mishna about the confusion
with the birds
brings us and brings out a tremendous
novel idea.
Excuse
me.
I'm going to explain in a moment.
Fore
for the
speech.
Venonus
is a suffic.
There is a fundamental issue here that
Yeshua is trying to address.
A woman who gives birth needs to bring
two birds if she's poor.
One for one for in this case she has to
bring another two birds as a carbon
because she made a special pledge.
However, something happened. There were
mistakes. Those mistakes created doubts.
These mistakes and doubts were created
through the
errors of the woman of the mother and
the kay. And because of that this woman
is now obligated to bring many new
offerings to the point that she may
bring one she may have to bring one more
two more or three more or four more or
five more or six more or maybe even
seven more. And according to Benaza,
there's a possibility that she has to
bring eight new birds as carbonas. Now,
this is no simple thing. You're
obligating a Jew to bring
many new offerings in the BA mikdash
when it's possible that she's not
obligated to bring them
because we're not sure about what
happened. It's possible in many of the
cases in the Mishna, it's possible that
she actually fulfilled her obligation or
she fulfilled part of her obligation.
and the offerings that she was really
obligated in, she may have offered them
and fulfilled what she had to fulfill.
And if you go through the Mishna, you'll
see how many levels of doubts there are.
There are doubts and doubts and doubts.
So, it's possible that she already
fulfilled everything she had to fulfill
and she received all the atonement that
she received. which in a regular case if
you just bring an unnecessary offering
it's called and bazor you're bringing a
mundane animal you're offering it as a
carbon into the b mikdash which is an
absolute no no it's an absolute
transgression in this case of course the
tells you to do it but the phenomenon
here is a very very nuanced and complex
one and strange one she's bringing seven
new birds maybe eight new birds
according to benaza it's eight according
to the first town at seven or even one
or two or three or four or five or six
additional birds and all based on
doubts, based on her mistakes, based on
the kayen's mistakes. They didn't
notice, they forgot, they were
overwhelmed, they were startled,
whatever. They didn't realize, they were
not cognizant, they were not focused.
And because of that, you're obligating
her to bring all of these. Now, he makes
it clear, the Reb makes it clear, there
are carbon that you bring based on a
doubt. For example, a woman may have a
miscarriage early on and it's not sure.
We're not sure if this was a miscarriage
of a fetus or maybe she discharged
something else. And the Gmorra learns
out as he brings in the footnotes that
the Tyra says that even if there's a
doubt if she discharged a fetus or not,
there is an obligation to bring a carbon
because there's a suffic tuma. there's a
doubt if she's tummy or not tummy
because whenever you have a baby there's
a tuma and then you have to bring a
carbon to go into the bame mikdash and
here it's a suffix. So the Tyra says for
this suffic for this doubt you bring a
carbon since it's a suffik to you also
bring a carbon and afterwards you can go
to the bik and you can eat carbonas just
like there's a case of an asham tali an
asham tali means there's certain sins
that if a Jew did them by mistake
inadvertently yes to bring a carbon it's
called a carbon katas but what if you're
not sure if you did this sin by mistake
it's an asham tali for example there's
two pieces of meat near you okay one is
shuman one is kalev one is the fat of a
kosher animal the other one is also the
fat of a kosher animal But it's the
parts of the fat that you're not allowed
to eat. You're not allowed to eat it.
Now, you ate one of these two. Maybe
they looked identical. They're both
fatty, but you don't remember. You don't
know which one you ate.
So, you're not sure you have to bring a
carbon kas because if you ate the kosher
meat, you're good. But if you ate the
you would have to bring a carbon kas.
But here, you're not sure. So, you bring
a special carbon called an asham to And
the says it until you find out for sure
that you sin. Then you'll bring a carbon
kas. But at this point it's called an
asham tali a suspended asham an asham of
when you are in a limbo state when
you're hanging tali it's suspended. So
here the initially says that even though
it's a doubt you're bringing the carbon
for a doubt that's fine. The here
creates a type of carbon that is carved
out from a doubt but here that's not
what happened. It's not that there was a
doubt if the woman was obligated. So the
says okay bring a carbon. No, here the
obligation was absolutely certain. This
is a woman who had a baby. She had to
bring a pair of birds. She pledged a
second pair of birds. The problems
happened later. The obligation was a vad
with an absolute obligation. She had to
bring an offering. Because of the error
of the cayenne and of the woman later
this certain absolute set of carbonas
turns into such a complicated situation
and now we don't know what's going on.
We don't know if she fulfilled her
obligation completely. If she fulfilled
her obligation partially, if she did not
fulfill her obligation at all.
We don't know if she had her atonement,
if she didn't have her atonement.
And yet our sages tell us what has to
happen. She starts all over again. And
now she starts all over again and brings
another four. No, she brings four. Maybe
she brings five, six, seven, eight. This
is a very unique phenomenon in hala.
In addition to that, how do we define
these seven or eight carbonas? They were
caused by a suffk. They were caused by a
doubt in the woman's mind or in the
cayenne's mind or in both of their
minds. So on one hand, you can say that
there's an absolute obligation to bring
a carbon. They may not be. On the other
hand, you can't say there's no
obligation to bring a carbon because
then it's based to do it. So these
carbonas are very limbo like carbonas.
What are they? Are they certain
obligations? Are they not certain
obligations? Are they obligations based
on a doubt? But the doubt came from
something that was absolute and certain.
So you're dealing here with a mess
within a mess. How do you define all of
these carbonas?
So the kazal understood that she has to
bring these carbonas
and they said you have to go and bring
another bird or two birds or three birds
or four birds in order to fulfill your
obligation.
But this is a galesh
that there was an absolute prescribed
set of laws that she has to do. She and
the cen messed up because of their
mistakes which is part of being human.
We make mistakes. That that's being
human. It's part of our vulnerability.
And what happens suddenly? Oh, you gald.
You're not just repeating the process
again. You're now bringing four 1 2 3 4
5 6 7 eight new birds. Eight. That's
double of the amount that you had to
bring initially and we don't even know
if you're obligated fully or maybe again
there were mistakes and the doesn't
remember. She doesn't remember. Maybe
everything was done right. Milan the
last case everything couldn't have been
done right but maybe a lot of things
were done right.
This is what needs to explain. If Yeshua
has to say something, what does he say?
He says something very profound. He's
not just telling you a cute parable
about taking a sheep and taking the
limbs and turning them into instruments,
which is a beautiful lesson in school to
teach children and adults how to make
musical instruments and how to you make
use out of everything in the world. And
how everything, this is a incredible
thing. How even an animal after it dies,
it doesn't just die. It always gains. It
gives something to the world. Every
creature gives and takes. Every
creature. And even when an animal dies,
it's it's its fossils return back to the
soil or are absorbed by another animal
and it becomes part of the incredible
food chain and food web and becomes part
of the incredible balanced ecosystem
which allows our planet to continue to
live and flourish. And that's a
fascinating phenomenon of nature how
Hashem built the world that everything
gives and takes and even after death
there is a continuous process of give
and take. That's beautiful and it's an
incredible insight, but it doesn't
belong in
the words of Yeshua are extremely
significant and you have to hear those
words. They seem poetic and they are,
but they're also
They seem poetic, but they're also
Yeshua says, "This is what it meant when
they said that when the beast is alive,
it possesses one sound. When it's dead,
its sound becomes sevenfold. Its sound
becomes sevenfold. Me
gets increased sevenfold. No, the me is
dead. Me is dead. The sheep is
unfortunately gone. Lifeless. The
instruments are fashioned from seven
organs. But listen to the words of
Yeshua.
[Music]
His coil, its coil, its sound is one. It
possesses one sound.
It sound the sound of the
becomes seven. Is this poetry? Is this
science? Is this nature? What does a
bishop sing? What do you mean its sound
becomes seven? No, it sound is muted
forever. The sheep is gone. The beast is
gone. The ram is gone. Obviously,
talking about a sheep that has horns.
So, it's the male ram.
because you're turning the the horns
into uh into into trumpets into horns.
You're taking horns and turn them. So,
you have to have an animal that has
horns. But he doesn't actually say which
animal. So, you could say it's a ram
because a ram is the family of the sheep
and the sheep is what the woman brings
as as a carbon if she's not poor. Okay.
I'm just responding to a question
somebody asks. Uh would he have horns?
It's not talking about a baby sheep or
female that we're talking about a sheep
that grows and has horns obviously which
we call a ram an
what does he mean?
So the labavba sees in this expression
the key word. This is the key word.
Let's see inside.
There's a contradiction here.
There's a paradox here because the seven
sounds
are horns which become trumpets,
hide which becomes a drum, intestines
which becomes a liar, large intestines
which becomes a harp, pomegranates,
wool which becomes pomegranates on the
robe which has bells.
These are sounds
of horns,
of thighs, of leg bones, of intestines.
These are not the sounds of the sheep
itself.
Says Yeshua, "No, this is what they
said. When the sheep dies, when the
beast dies, when the ram dies,
[Music]
from them.
The death of the sheep indeed
obliterates that single sound, the voice
of the sheep. There are new sounds, very
different sounds. You can't compare the
sounds of the horns, the sounds of the
trumpets.
or the sound of the drum or the sound of
the harp or the liar with the sound of
the sheep when it's alive. But
amu this is what they said.
It's all the sound. It's all the voice.
It's the co of the
This is what they said. There's a depth
in what they said. It's the sheep's
sound being manifested, metamorphosized,
transformed, filtered, but ultimately
manifested, conveyed, expressed
through these seven organs, through
these seven instruments. Each instrument
captures in its own unique way, in its
own unique shape, color, flavor,
through its own unique characteristics.
the coy
physically doesn't mean physically that
when you're listening to a trumpet
that's made from the horn of a ram or
you're listening to
you're listening to a sheep crying or a
sheep pleading or a sheep expressing
itself
[Music]
but on some deep symbolic level that's
what's really what's happening
because it's ultimately from the sheep
It's all the power of the sheep. It's
the qualities. It's the features. It's
the characteristics that God embedded in
the genetic and physiological makeup of
a sheep. It's the kila kev that's coming
out. Even though the is dead.
The ram was slaughtered. The ram is
gone. The ram has no coil. But this is
the coil that's coming out through
these. I the sheep is gone. The sheep is
dead. There's new sounds. Yes. But
Shiva it's
we attribute it back to the sheep. We
have to have the wisdom. We have to have
the gratitude. We have to be able to
remember the source. Remember
remember the progenitor. Remember where
it comes from.
These sounds have a mother.
These voices have a father. These sounds
come from somewhere. Don't take the
trumpet for granted. Don't take the harp
for granted. Don't take the liar for
granted. Don't take the bells for
granted. They come from somewhere. The
sheep gave up its life for you to be
able to enjoy the harp. For you to be
able to enjoy the liar.
Naval is a liar is a sharp. You say in
the morning, halaluca
halal.
That's the ram's horn comes from the
ram.
The liar comes from the ram.
The harp, it comes from the liar.
Would play would be would would play the
music would
a brilliant musician. And the garra says
in gimmel there was a harp on top of the
bed of David. Midnight the wind would
sway the harp. would begin playing
musical would wake up and learn tired of
the whole night
the says is
the of every musical instrument has such
drama such depth such beauty don't take
for granted that the sheep gave up its
life this is the kila
this is the sound of the that's coming
out I know it's a new sound it went
through a major metamorphosis
This is a very very powerful and also
emotional idea. We're going to see now
the Reb is dealing with it from a
completely perspective, not from an
emotional or historical perspective. At
the end of the sik, it's going to all be
seen through the lenses of history,
through the lens of history and through
the lens of of of
spiritual vision of Judaism. How we view
history, how we view the evolution of
history from generation to generation,
the relationship of a mother to a child,
from a father to a child, from
grandparents to grandchildren. But here
we're talking about the
revolutionary statement of Rabbi Yeshua.
for
the carbonus.
Ah,
here we have the lisha definition of all
these seven new birds this woman is
bringing. True. The reason she has to
bring all these new offerings are
because of the doubts that were created
after she brought the first four
offerings. Those four offerings were the
real obligations.
And now there was a doubt. There was a
mess. There was a mess up. The cayenne
forgot. The woman forgot.
It's like when the sheep dies, what
happens? The new sounds coming from the
seven instruments are not detached. No,
they are a continuum of the original
voice of the original sound of the
sheep.
These seven new birds, they're much more
than the original birds. You had four
birds. They now turned into seven birds.
They may have turned into eight birds.
That's like the sheep. The one sound
turned into seven sounds. Turned into
eight sounds. But they're all one sound.
They're a continuum of that sound. Yes,
it's the rainbow. The sound is
expressing itself in different shapes
and different instruments,
different they touch different aspects
of the human perceptive of human
perception and the human taste for
music. Some of us love the harp. Some of
us love the liar. Some of us are
infatuated by the drum. Some of us like
the bell
and some of us appreciate the trumpet.
But its manifestations as diverse
manifestations of a singular coil. All
these carbonas which came as a result of
doubts are all a continuum of co of that
original sound that original voice of
the sheep. They all have the they all
assume the status of the original
offering which was an absolute
obligation.
In the footnotes here, there's a lot of
very heavy footnotes explaining the
various suggest in Gimmor and in Rambam
about how we deal with carbonas that are
sphas carbonas that we bring because of
doubt because we don't know what's
happening.
I wish we would have real time for this,
but this would be another hour or two
getting into the details of the
footnotes. I'm just pointing this out
for those who are listening to this. I
want to go deeper because there's a lot
to discuss here from aik point of view.
Is it really that the sages almost felt
that this was just a situation that was
so stuck and they found a heter
and they found a pik to say that you're
allowed to bring carbonus even when
there is a doubt and it's not called
bazor or there is actually a unique
situation here which Yeshua is saying
where even though you didn't eat these
carbonas because they were brought
alopic
but they have a unique status
like the original carbonus like the
first sound of the sheep because the
seven sounds the seven birds are really
a continuum of the first sound even
though death happened in between which
repres which is represented by all the
doubts of the cen and all the doubts of
the woman.
Hey
for
visitor.
for
the is now going to branch this off into
different parts of
We have here a phenomenon that this
carbon was triggered by doubt
and yet it's assuming the status
of an absolute obligation like the
original four birds
in we have a phenomenon where the result
becomes far more potent and forceful
than the cause.
The antecedent,
the source becomes a source for
something that will gain much more
power, potency and prominence.
In hokic terminology or philosophical
terminology, the muv becomes stronger
than the sibo,
which is what's happening here. Because
initially the woman had to bring four
birds. Those were absolute Tyra
obligations. No question.
That absolute obligation now ultimately
resulted in a mess because of doubts and
questions and problems and uncertainties
and we don't know if I'm obligated I'm
not obligated how much I'm obligated
which one I'm obligated on the first set
the second set because of these doubts
these doubts now give birth to seven new
birds that I have to bring the mother
has to bring the cayenne has to bring
the mother has to bring through the
cayenne and these have the status like
the first sound of the sheep, like the
first voice, like the first four birds.
So there's a certainty that triggers and
results in a doubt that triggers a new
certainty.
So he brings her two examples from many.
You could bring many, but he brings two
very interesting examples.
Actually these two examples the Reb
would uh
I heard it from the Reb myself a few
times in different different
conversations different.
The first is
very briefly the said if you have a
board a nesser is like a board a plank
of wood and the width of it is fort
you're not allowed to use it as even
though it's good it's wood it grows from
the ground it wasn't fashioned into a
into a utensil it's it's good you can
use it for but they had a problem it's
called
means if it's for which means it's four
hand breaths
when you look up it looks like a roof
because it's so wide. So then you may
come to think, you know, I could just
sit under the roof of my house. It's
called ger. So they said, don't use that
board. But here's the deal. What happens
if that board is four and four hand
breaths wide, but the thick of it, the
height of it is only one tap? It's very
thin in its thickness. So you know what
you could do? Just turn it over. Turn it
over on its side. And now the breath of
it is very it's very small. It's maybe a
half a or two.
Right. So the height will be that I
don't care about could you do that or
not. So the is that you're not allowed
to do it. Why not? Why not? This is a
discussion in
you see it in the footnotes 30 footnote
33 footnote 34. He brings all the
sources in the footnote. Why not? The
answer is very interestingly even though
the reason why these boards are not used
in suka is because we're afraid that
somebody's going to compare it to a
roof. But once the said that these
boards are puzzled, they're
disqualified. They become essentially
ple and therefore even if you turn them
around in a different direction and the
original factor and reason is gone. But
because this board became essentially
disqualified for it's disqualified under
all circumstances. It's called
it becomes like a metal pole and a metal
pole cannot be used for metals can't be
used for you have to use something that
grows from the ground and also is not
fashioned into a utensil which is
susceptible to tumor. So a metal stick a
metal pole a metal uh stave cannot be
used as
no difference which direction even
though the
prohibited this board. Why? Because it's
wide fortim and it looks like a roof.
And in this case it doesn't look like a
roof. But when they said it's pos what
happens? They said it is pel. So theul
now becomes so to speak part of the very
reality of the board. This board is
disqualified for it's like innately not
good. It's not just if it's in this
direction or that direction. So
therefore, even if there's no tikra,
even though right now you turn it on its
side, so the width is only one, the
thick is now for it's still not good.
It's possible.
What's the concept here? This is a very
similar concept because why did they
make it possible? What made it possible?
A specific
gazer tik right now in this situation
there's no tikra. But the result of
tikra becomes more powerful than
zerikra. In other words, if it would
only remain posible because of the sul
only had to be if you put it on top of
your suka in a way that it's covered it
covers for fim of your suk but you
didn't do it that way. So even though
the source the siba the reason the
reason the progenitor
what triggered the psul what created the
psul was tik which is a specific concern
the result of it becomes more powerful
than tik how do I know because even in a
situation when there's no tik it's still
possible it's absolut so the result is
more powerful than the
because the result becomes more potent
and it's possible even when there's
Another example.
came.
wrote this
on
the 17th of Thomas 1831.
He passed away 1839
was there of preborg.
Then it was in the AustriaHungarian
Empire. Today it's called Bratislava
and his child are classics in
the Reb had an affinity to he mentioned
it pretty often.
All of
I'm just saying that parenthetically.
What's the story? Got a question. There
was somebody who was very ill. It was
the second day of
and he had a wife. They never had
children. And he was afraid that if he
dies on the second day of she's going to
need yum. She's going to have to get
married. Many of you are learning.
She'll have to get married to his
brother. The yam was far away. So it may
not be easy to get khalit. She may
remain in a she won't be able to marry
another man. So he wanted to give a get
on the second day of sh. But you have to
sign a get. You're not allowed to write
on yam. So there was a particular rabbi
who tried to find the leniency to do it
because it's the second day of Yamtiff
and in order to help this woman in case
the husband dies.
There was another rabbi who opposed it
vehemently and he felt maybe that he was
wrong and he wrote a letter to the
cyheram writes a long letter. It's a
very very interesting letter. It's a
classic letter like many letters of the
but at the end he adds one point about
literally in the last few lines but
somehow the reb is zoomed into that and
he says there's something about that's
unique. Why do we have two days of yam
and the answer is because in the times
of the second B used to send out
messengers to tell everybody when is
because could be either on day 30
right you have 29 days and then day 30
becomes the new the new month or Khesh
could be day one. So you have 29 30 and
then day one is kaidesh and then pes
would be a day later. So they used to
send out messengers to tell the crowd
the Jews all over the diaspora when pes
is when sukus is. Now some places lived
far away from so they didn't get the
message. So they had to do pes two days
because they weren't sure that pes start
a day earlier if was a day earlier that
pes start a day later. The same is true
with sukus. By shwis there was never a
problem. Why? Because shw is not based
on the day of a month. Shwuz is based on
50 days since the counting of d. You
count 49 days and the 50th day you
celebrate. So essentially could be and
viv and ziv. By the time came around by
the time year came around every Jew knew
when pes was. So they just count 49 days
from the second day of PES and the 50th
day is
so you don't have to know when was to
know when is so essentially nobody
should celebrate two days of everybody
even in the diaspora should celebrate
one day of so why do we have two days of
the answer is
the Rambam says in chapter three the
don't want to distinguish between the
three holidays pes in America would be
two days would be two days in in the
beginning and at the end and shuis would
be one day. They said you know what
let's keep it uniform. So shuis will
also be two days. So the says this means
that in many ways
is more stringent the second day of is
more stringent than the second day of
pes and the second day of sukus and the
last day of sukas and the last day of
why by p and there's a doubt
maybe it's yumpt maybe it's not and
because that doubt the Jews kept two
days and today also
we keep that tradition even though today
we have a calendar we don't need these
we don't have the problem. But even in
ancient times, why was Shvu created? Not
because there was a doubt. The second
day wasn't a doubt. We know for sure
it's not. The reason is not to
distinguish between other holidays. In
other words, it's not because of a
doubt. It's because of a vad. The say
there's no doubt here. We know it's not.
It's a v. In order not to distinguish
between and other holidays, we are
establishing that the second day of shu
should be kept as a yumpt says it has a
not of suffik because there was never a
suffic by it's the said initially it's
not because you don't know you're in
limos 50 yeah 50 so we don't take
chances no we don't have to not take
chances it's not so why is it because
the said we're making a like
we're
So we have here an interesting
phenomenon. The core the reason we
celebrate the second day of shu is
because of pes and sukus. And why do we
celebrate the second day of pes and
sukus? because of a doubt
and that's what triggers that's what
creates that's what generates a second
day of but once the student is the
offspring is the result but the result
becomes more powerful than the source
because has something that pesukas
doesn't have it has the it has the
potency of vad of certainty
here we have examples how that which is
born from the cause from the source
gains power and forcefulness that
doesn't exist in the source. And that's
the concept that we have here in this
carbon. These seven birds were all born
out of doubt, out of suffic, out of a
mess, out of a situation that cripples
us. It's because we don't know. We're
confused.
And yet the confusion, like the death of
the sheep, doesn't just interrupt the
process. It creates a new identity that
goes back to the original obligation and
that original obligation was an absolute
certainty. So that the result is more
powerful than the source.
The understand
Oh, wow. Okay. I I see the mic is about
to die, so I'm just changing the
battery. So, give me one moment. I'm
just changing the battery. I'll be back
in a moment.
I'll give an example from another
another realm, the realm of psychology.
And the reason it's like that in
psychology and in the world of the soul
and the world of the mind, it's because
it's like that in our own world. It's
like that in Tyra. Tyra is the blueprint
for the world.
I've heard this from so many people and
especially from mental health
professionals.
There are often things that happen in
people's lives
that are very disturbing and sometimes
extremely extremely
devastating
and yet that's the cause. The result of
what happens sometimes becomes much more
destructive than the cause of what
triggered the entire trauma. So for
example, people sometimes experience a
trauma. They experience an event that is
very disturbing
that compromises their their brains
functioning powers that compromises
their self
conceptualization the way they see
themselves.
And yet that in itself may not be the
most devastating factor.
What becomes the really devastating
factor is the way the original trauma is
processed by the person.
The result becomes much more toxic than
the cause. Last Shabas I was at a
recovery Shabas in Miami. There were
around 800 people in recovery, 900
people in recovery. Friday night I sat
up a whole night with a group of people
in recovery, amazing people. And there
was a young man who shared with me how
he was violated for five years. Five
years he was violated. He was abused.
And he shared with me the details. It's
not for now obviously.
And he looks at me and with tears in his
eyes, he says, "And you know what the
worst thing was? When I finally got the
courage to tell my father what happened?
He told me it's not true. I don't
believe a word you say." said that was
far worse than the abuse.
You could cry when you hear it
cuz he told me that was the abuse
happening all over again but much worse
because it was happening by the person
who was supposed to protect me. So you
see what happens?
We go through stuff. That's the sa they
all cause something and and it's
powerful and it's sometimes you have it
in the positive you have it in the
negative but the muv what what happens
as a result of that that's where the
biggest power sometimes lay the way I
processed it not what happened happened
but what I'm telling myself till today
trauma is not what happened trauma is
what's happening right now in my body
it's stuck in my body how did I process
it then how do I process it today how
did the people around me process process
it. What was the message I got from the
people when I shared with them this
story? How it was dealt with by my
closest circle? That's the And sometimes
tragically the
gains this power, this ferocious power
in the positive or the negative that the
original story doesn't have. The reason
it's like that in psychology is because
like it's like that in the soul. It's
because it's like that in. And that's
what we're learning here.
There's the original voice. There's the
original sound. And then there's the
seven sounds. And those seven sounds all
come from that original sound. And in
the middle there was a death. It should
have weakened it. No. Sometimes the muv
is much stronger than the you have to be
aware of these things. We have to be
aware of the power of the result. You
know the if you want a cute cute way of
saying it the creates the but hopefully
the relationship becomes much deeper
than what the created. True without the
matchmaker the and the kala would have
never met but the result of it gains a
whole new level of relationship and
depth that the shhatan couldn't have
because he brings out what's inside of
you. A teacher may produce a student and
may raise the student and mentor the
student and guide and educate the
student but sometimes the student grows
far beyond the imagination of the
teacher.
Yes, it was all created by the cause, by
the source, but sometimes the result ah
it reaches a whole different level. And
the Reb gives you the two examples of
suka and the example of the which brings
us back to the example of the carbon
that the mother has to bring.
We now go to the next step. We go to the
next step.
The next step is
Vav,
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I'm going to say outside because I want
to be able to finish the and the hour is
late
and there's a lot here. So even though
we could sit on for an hour or two
hours, it's
but I'm going to say it outside. You
could learn it inside. I hope you learn
it inside. I'm going to say it outside.
Based on all this, we'll now understand
that there's also the other side of it.
Rab Yeshua is not just explaining the
carbon of the mother.
[Music]
He's also explaining the uniqueness of
the sheep that died.
As we said, the Mishna is not here to
explain interesting natural phenomena
about how you make instruments even
though it's amazing and what happens
when the ram dies. He's also explaining
a idea
and one of them may be the following
scenario fascinating scenario and this
is what the explains. There's a it's
discussed at length
it's discussed in
it's discussed it's a
here's the issue if somebody worships
something as a deity as a god it becomes
forbidden to benefit from
but what happens if it's something that
a person doesn't affect it's something
that's natural and you didn't change it
around. It's not like a statue that you
build. You build, you sculpture a statue
and you worship it. Let's say you decide
to worship an animal. Yeah. There's a
sheep, you know, like the Hindus, the
old ancient Egyptians, you have a sheep
and you worship the sheep. You bow down
to the sheep. You believe for whatever
reason that your sheep is God. What's
the hala? The hala is that the sheep
does not become forbidden to eat or
forbidden to have a because it's a
natural sheep. You didn't change
actually the sheep. It's not like you
slaughtered a sheep for a desour. You
did not. The sheep is alive. You just
worship it. So, you actually don't
manipulate the sheep because you can't.
It's a natural phenomena that God
created and you can't change it unless
you physically change it around. And
therefore, if a Jew takes this sheep and
slaughters it, for example, you're
allowed to eat it. It's you're not
allowed to bring this sheep as a carbon.
We learn out from sukim that when it
comes to when it comes to the bdash a
sheep that was worshiped even though
it's alive it's
you're not let to use it for the altar.
Now here's an interesting question that
the gar raises inv
the question is as follows.
If somebody worships the sheep but then
the sheep goes through a major
transformation does it revoke the
original status of the fact that it was
used for idolatry and you're not allowed
to use it in the Bikash or ancient the
transformation doesn't transform the
original status that this was used for
an example says let's say somebody
worships stalks of wheat they didn't
touch it they just worshiped it I don't
know why but a person does that now you
take this wheat wheat and you harvest
the wheat and you extract the kernels
and you grind the kernels into flour and
you want to use this flour as a carbon
min are you allowed to or not
interesting question another example
let's say somebody bows down to an
animal can you use its wool to make for
the garments of the kang can you use the
horns of a bull to make trumpets in the
basikt can you use the thighs of the
animal to make flutes to use for the
concerts in the basikt Can you use the
intestines of the animal to make and
weave strings for the harp? Very
interesting question.
Wow. What's the question? Why is this a
question? The Gmorra actually answers.
Some of these questions is tu. They're
not sure about it. We'll soon see what
the hal is. What's the question? The
question is as follows. Is it the
original sheep or it's not the original
sheep? It's a fascinating question and
that's exactly what Yeshua is
addressing. The Yeshua is not addressing
just the sheep and music and a cute
little statement that somebody made
about a living sheep and a dead sheep.
No, he's addressing a very serious
question that's essential to hal.
What's the problem? The problem is the
sheep, the ram is dead. You worshiped
the sheep. You worshiped a bull. You
worshiped an ox. Okay, now it's dead.
It's a new reality. You took the horns
of the ax or the horns of the ram and
you turned it into a trumpet for the
bdash. Is this considered a trumpet that
was worshiped? It comes from the ax that
was worshiped. It comes from the ram
that was worshiped. Are you allowed to
use it or not? We learn out from the
title. You can't use this animal as a
carbon. I get it. But what happens if it
goes through a transformation? You take
the wool and you turn it into you take a
part of the animal, you turn it into a
musical instrument. Can you use it in
the B mikdash? First of all, the animal
is dead. Second of all, you completely
transformed the organ from an intestine.
You made a drum. You made a law. You
made a harp. You made from the horns a
trumpet. It's not it's not anymore part
of a holistic animal. It's completely
self-contained and it's not even an
organ. It's a musical instrument. Most
people wouldn't even know if they didn't
know how it was made that it was made
from an organ. Is it mut or is it? And
the is that it is forbidden. It's
forbidden. And that's the
and that's what Yeshua is saying. Yeshua
is actually explaining something in even
though the trumpets made from the horns
and even though the strings of the liar
and the harp made from the intestines
comes from a dead ram and it's now
separated from the original ram. And
it's not just separated, it went through
a metamorphosis and a transformation.
And the seven sounds
are not the original sound of a sheep.
It's not even the original sound of a
thigh bone or of hide.
It's a whole new sound. It's a trumpet.
It's a flute. It's a drum. It's a liar.
It's a harp. It's not anymore the sound
of the organs of the sheep or of the
mouth of the sheep. Yeshua says, "No.
Even as it's seven different sounds,
howly the Torah sees it as I could still
hear the sheep
and therefore because you worship the
sheep for
this transformation is ineffective and
you can't use it for the Bik as I said
you can use the sheep for mundane
purposes and that's the
Even though the garra has tu the
discusses this
here intimated the even though in gra
it's tu fascinating so you'll say so why
didn't the gammor
give an answer it's a good question so
the gammorra should have had an answer
why does the gammorra say tu
it could be the gammorra understood that
tanoyam are arguing about it But here in
Mess's kingdom, this is the view of Reb
Yeshua. But it goes much deeper because
you could explain this in two ways. You
could say that the reason the trumpets
are disqualified,
the reason that the drum or the flute or
the liar or harp is disqualified is
because it ultimately comes from a ram
that was worshiped
and therefore that prohibition remains.
But you can say that they are defined as
avoid
they come from something that was
worshiped and therefore we say don't use
it or maybe no maybe it still has the
same status like the original sheep
which was disqualified for the misbehav
and that's what we see from the Rambam
the Rambam's language in Misbay is he
quotes it in 50 note 50 that if somebody
bows down to an animal Just as the
animal is disqualified for the altar,
the wool is disqualified for the big
day, the horns are disqualified for
trumpets.
When the Rambam uses the word
is trying to say something. You could
have just said, you're not allowed to
use the wool. You're not allowed to use
the horns. Ra is trying to say it's the
same gather like the original animal
just like the original animal is
disqualified for the misbeh because it
was worshiped as an idolatry so you
can't use it for a carbon for Hashem. So
the same is true when you want to use
the wool for big de kahun and you want
to use the horns for trumpets and you
want to use the hide for a drum and you
want to use the intestines for the
thighs for flutes and the intestines for
a liar and a harpet has the same gather.
It's the g of
and the difference would be that the
isur is an it's not just an is according
to the first version it's a new reality
just the rabbis say since it comes from
this sheep don't use it according to the
second of according to the second way of
learning it it's prohibited it's a
biblical prohibition because this was
worshiped even though now it's a trumpet
this is
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the
kin
explains to me what they said. Who's
they? They is not just some quotable
quoter in the world. They represents
also the hashka of the
that just that they said that the the
sheep when it's alive, it has one voice,
one sound, and when it dies, it's the
same sound manifested in seven different
sounds. It's the same sound. It's the
same. And therefore if it was used
says you're not allowed to use them and
that's the
and this needs an explanation and that's
the explanation. Just like
even though the triggered obligation was
a suffic
and the cyan don't know what happened.
Nonetheless, the new obligations, the
new seven birds have the same status as
the original four birds. It's the same
voice like the original voice like the
original sound of the sheep. The same is
true when the sheep is used for a des
even though the horns and the thighs and
the intestines
went through a major metamorphosis and
they became a new entity.
And you can't you can't say that they
should be qu dis disqualified for the
altar like originally. Originally they
were part of a sheep that was worshiped.
They're not part of the sheep anymore.
First of all, the sheep is dead. Second
of all, they were detached from the
sheep. Third of all, they went through a
transformation. You don't even recognize
the connection. We say
it's the same coil. It's the same
expressed in seven different
instruments. Or like we said before by
suka those boards that are wide for have
they essentially become disqualified for
the suka not just because
it becomes an innate quality. Each one
of these organs becomes essentially a
vazara.
It has a
and therefore even now when it was
detached it continues that very it it
maintains and retains that very stain
same status.
It's like the we say it became metal.
They became like
the name of the
becomes the very status of the horns and
the thighs and the flutes and the the
thighs and the intestines.
Why?
That's the of klesha.
You could say the source is the sheep.
I'm just a weak copy of it and now I'm
detached. No, you're a direct continuum
of it. That's what we see by kin. And
here too
the of it it becomes part of their very
identity and therefore you can't use it
in the BT even.
Ah, now we'll understand why the Mishna
has to talk about the amaets and the
zikn.
This is civian.
We have here a problem. What's the
problem?
The story of the sheep alive or dead is
not very similar to the story of the
mother giving birth and bringing
carbonas. Why? by the sheep. It's a
one-time event. The sheep was alive and
it died. Death is a momentary
experience.
In the story of the birds, it was a
gradual process and there's many
different scenarios. The first case is
the cahin didn't know what the woman
wanted and he offered two birds on top,
two birds on the bottom. So, she has to
bring one more bird.
Then there's another story which makes
her bring two more birds. Another story
which makes her bring three, four, five,
six until we reach seven or eight. In
other words, there's many many different
scenarios. It's different. By the sheep,
the transformation is in a moment. Boom.
Sheep is dead. From one, you got seven.
By the woman, it doesn't happen that
way. It's not like she forgot. The
cayenne forgot seven birds. No, no, no.
First there's one, then there's two,
then there's three, then it's four, then
it's five, then there six, there's
seven. So the example doesn't mamish
match up. It's a good example generally
speaking because the sheep went through
a transformation from life to death and
yet the sounds increased sevenfold just
like here. There was a problem and a
doubt and a mess and the offerings
increased all the way to number seven.
But you can't compare it because here
there's so many levels from you get from
one to seven takes a long time. There's
seven there's different scenarios in the
Mishna. So the Mishna says let me bring
another example.
Bakashi says take a look at elderly
people who are who are completely
ignorant. They did not spend their life
with
the older they get the more confused
they get.
The older they get the more settled they
become. This is not something that
happens in one moment. You don't get old
in a single instant. It's not like death
person sheep is alive the sheep is dead.
This is a process. Aging is a process.
Doesn't happen in a moment. Kohl's man,
it's a process and it's gradual. Person
gets older, a person gets weaker. So
that's a much more
accurate example in this sense that as
we get older, our bodies change, our
brains change and therefore our level of
perceptiveness, our mental capacity, our
intellectual capacity, our cerebral
capacities, they all go through a
transformation. And that's why the
Mishna has to first speak about before
because is telling us something. He's
telling us when people get old their
bodies change, their brains change.
That's why the older they get, the
weaker they get, including in their
mental capacity. The Talmet also goes
through this change. He also gets older.
She also gets older. And naturally the
brain should get weaker and weaker as we
see by ziknay are just responding to the
natural process of aging. And yet we see
a unique phenomenon that by the older
they get the wiser they get the deeper
they get the more settled they become.
What happens?
You would think they're
so maybe spear them the terrible aging
process. Let their intellectual capacity
remain intact. Unlike the ziknets,
right, who become confused. But here we
say something much deeper than that.
It's not just the aging process doesn't
affect their ability to learn. On the
contrary, the aging process increases
their ability to learn even more when
they were young. Ah,
here we have a beautiful manifestation
and illustration to the very concept of
kinim of these carbonas the woman was
bringing. As long as they get older,
it's not a one-time event. It's just
like by the woman. You didn't get from 1
to seven like this. It's a process.
Every day you I get a little older. I
get a little weaker. This stops
functioning a little bit. This stops
functioning a little bit. and the mind
becomes weaker and that's what Daritz is
experiencing
the two words here here are key words as
long as they get older it's a concept
it's a process that is ongoing gradually
and the kim also experiences this and
with each physical decline there's a
certain spiritual ascent with each
physical decline the brain becomes
sharper more mature more deep more
authentic and this is also relevant
It's not just a interesting statement
because the Sanhedrin needs to have
balikna people of great wisdom. So when
you see the greater wisdom you're more
equipped to be in the Sanhedrin as he
discusses in the footnotes it's just
like by the kin with every disscent with
every doubt with every mess that should
create a big more havoc there's more
carbon more obligations
you see it's like the older you get with
each descent every day he should get
weaker and weaker no his mind gets
stronger and stronger but in order to
understand this you first have to talk
about because you have to speak about
the decline. What's supposed to happen
here is there is more decline and more
decline. Just like with the story of the
woman, there is more doubts and more
doubts and more doubts. And what do we
see by the amaritz? There is more
decline and more decline and more. And
yet what happens by the exact opposite
the contrast with the allows us to
understand what is happening here. It
allows us to understand the process of
how things are getting worse and worse
and we would expect that should at least
remain intact which would be amazing. We
say no. He becomes more powerful in his
learning and more strong in his
learning.
And you see it, you see it with real.
The older they get, there's a unique
light that comes from their from their
face, from their mind, from their words.
You the older they get, you see. The Reb
used to say
You become older one day. You become
smarter and wiser and you become more
committed. You become more conscious of
the divine
whose life is dedicated to to truth to
godliness to holiness. Even in the aging
process, they may physically become
weaker and you can see it. But there's
something emotionally and spiritually
and intellectually that just becomes
stronger and more powerful. I think we
can all experience this when you see a
real
it's not just their physical aging
doesn't affect their mental capacity.
That's also true. And a lot of research
today about how when you dedicate your
life to learning and you're part of a
community of learning and you challenge
yourself to learn and teach it also
helps simply
it helps also for longevity. It's a very
interesting research that I saw in
recent years that was done around this
but that's that that's all part of this
but that's that's exactly the point. So
that's what he has to bring out that
there is descent. There is descend. It's
not just talk about. Yes, you have to
bring out natural phenomenon. You're
supposed to be losing your mind. More
doubts. You forget things. The woman
forgets. The cayenne forgets. The old
man forgets. The old woman forgets.
Everybody's forgetting things. And yet
what happens from all of her
forgetfulness? She brings seven new
carbonas. And the seven new carbonus are
as powerful as the original carbonas.
Like he's getting older. He's getting
more forgetful. No.
and there's more there's more kaduca
there's more carbonus there's more
closeness there's more
of course the first example brings out
certain ideas that the second example
doesn't bring out that's what first
brings out the sheep situation because
that brings out of course the whole idea
of the seven and the eight which you
don't have with
it also brings out the idea that it's
the same but the brings out this other
facet and that's
adds this aspect. We now come to the
last piece of the this is
and
this concludes the hold the
conversation. The sikh now goes from the
nigla to the nister. From the halik to
the hashkafik,
from the practical components of Jewish
law to the
exploration of the spiritual, emotional,
psychological and historical deeper
dimensions that are being conveyed here
in the Mishna.
And this is
I'm going to read this inside.
Yeshua why
and what's the explanation on a deeper
level and the gar says in that the
mishnim unless a name is specified it
comes from Yeshua so this is Yeshua's
Yeshua's baby so to speak
is from. Wow. Sedum is the section of
Mishna that deals with carbon holiness.
There's a track called which means of
the mundane which deals with regular
animals that we eat on a daily basis.
They're not offered mikdash comes tob
and says where's
kachum. That's a Jew. Every Jew is part
of kadesh. We're a holy people. The of a
Jew is also
is also a din
of your life is part of
there's no that's divorced from by a Jew
everything is kadusha sedum
captures the mission statement of Israel
kadesh we are a holy sacred people we
are sensitive to holiness we are holy
our job is to reveal the holiness to
cultivate a life of holiness and to fill
the world with holiness beginning with
our hearts, our brains, our homes, our
families, our communities. And even the
every one of our lives has it has a lot
of mundaness, mundane parts. It's all
part of it's all part of kadusha.
There's no separateness.
At the end of
as we come to the conclusion of it's the
conclusion of the Jewish journey of
filling the world with holiness. We come
to the last theme of Kachchum. A woman
who gives birth to a baby or babies
which represents redemptiveness.
Exile is compared to pregnancy.
Redemptiveness, redemption is compared
to birth. As the Nva compares guas
as well chapter 16, we say it in the
Exodus of Egypt was compared to birth
and the future gula is compared to
birth.
Managues
in Eden. for the office of
the office. Mayor
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V is
haste.
Fore!
Foreign! Foreign!
Fore
shelters.
Ah
let me explain Yeshua at the end of
Kachum tells us how do we endure through
exile and how do we reach birth how do
we go through the labor pains and bring
out gula
and that's what he finishes with so the
whole kachch is the journey of kusha to
fill our lives to fill the world with
kadusha even our is also
the is at the end comes the birth that's
Kim but in birth there can be confusion
that's kin and Yeshua who lived through
the bdish lived through gullus but sang
he was the ley he teaches us how to
endure what's the secret of Jewish
history how do we endure gulos and how
do we come to the birth it's interesting
the garra says as I said earlier was the
great fierce debater
against the gentiles he's the one who
kept up the Jewish pride the Jewish
dignity he didn't let the Jews surrender
to mediocrity surrender to depression,
surrender to fear, surrender to
spinelessness. He was ready to debate
everybody and show em and God is true
and mitzvah are true and is true and is
true. If you ever learned the sug's
debates with the sages of Athens,
they're trying to delegitimize Judaism,
delegitimize,
you learn the Mar the Maharal's
explanation wrote a safer on those
debates
of breast of
other they bring out the depth of those
debates between Yeshua. This is Yeshua
and he's the one who finally tells us
how to get to the end of
Yeshua. And for this the labba brings a
medish and you see how everything is
connected. This is a medish rabba in
millis Esther and tan told us Adrien was
one of the most brutal emperors of Rome.
Maybe the most brutal. One of the most
brutal emperors of Rome. He's the one
who crushed the bara revolt. Adriionas.
Some people say it wasn't Adrien.
Adrianus is somebody else. But his
Hebrew name is Adrianus. He was one of
the Roman emperors. He once tells Rab
Yeshua, "The Jewish people are sheep and
they're surrounded by 70 wolves."
70 wolves. And he says, "Wow, this sheep
is pretty impressive. It's surviving
in the midst of 70 wolves that are
trying to devour it." That's what Adrian
tells of Yeshua. You know what he says?
He says this sheep has a great shepherd
and the shepherd protects it and saves
it and ultimately foils the schemes of
all the wolves and breaks them down.
Doesn't allow them to devour the sheep.
So Yeshua is the one who's telling us
which sheep he's talking about. He's
talking about the sheep of Kalisrael.
He's talking about this one innocent,
beautiful, pure sheep.
This sheep that the woman has to give as
a carbon the first carbon as an a
sheep is protected by the shepherd. This
is what Yeshua says. So the Reban puts
it all together. He says sometimes the
sheep is alive. The Jewish people is
alive. What does it mean we're alive?
We're saturated with the consciousness
of a
people who brought monotheism into the
world. the founding fathers of Judaism.
And then of course the shepherd protects
it just like the shepherd protected
Abraov and promised them eternal
protection because the Jews are one with
their fathers and mothers. We are a
living sheep. And remember our
patriarchs were shepherds. They all
dealt with sheep. Aram was a shepherd.
Yitzk was a shepherd. Yakov was a
shepherd. Araminu was brought as a
substitute for the sheep.
Yakov worked for years and years and
years with sheep.
When we are connected to them, when we
are alive, the shepherd protects us. But
then comes a situation in history. The
labavator says, "And it looks like the
sheep is dead. You don't see the
vitality in the sheep. You don't see the
consciousness of the being manifested in
a revealed way in the sheep. In fact,
when you listen to the sounds coming
from the sheep, you hear different
sounds. You don't hear that original
sound, that original voice of the one
sheep. You don't hear that,
that consciousness of oneness, that
singular of
the
the consciousness of infinity, the
consciousness of oneness. First of all,
you see a nation that's splintered, a
nation that has so many different sounds
and so many different voices. Shiva, we
know there's seven branches of the mana.
We're split up into seven different
branches.
You might think, where's the shepherd?
Where's the shepherd? Comes Yeshua and
says, don't make that mistake.
You think the sheep died? You think that
original sound is gone. You think you
can't hear anymore the music of
the coil. You remember what we spoke
about earlier in the
same coil. Don't be deceived.
Don't forget that it's all from the
sheep. All the different coils, all the
different sounds. It's one ky of
it's not different kas. Yes, it's
manifested in different ways. You have
flutes.
You have people who sing on the flute
and you have drummers in clro
and you have violinists and you have
those who play on the harp and those who
play on the cello and those who play on
the liar and those who ring the bells.
They walk around with the bells and
those who blow the trumpets and those
who blow the shifer.
It's one coil. It's expressed. It's
filtered. It's channeled through
different prisms. It's refracted through
different colors of the rainbow, but
it's coming from one sun, from one
source of light. And on this there's a
medish. It says gemit.
You took out the vine from Egypt. The
Jews are called the vine. So the med
says when you look at a vine, you wrap
the clusters of grapes around dead
trees. You take you take uh you take
trees that are dead or dead wood and you
need them to hold up the vines. So he
says the Jews are sustained by the dead
trees the when the Reb said over this
medish and he saidish
it's an astounding language in the
medish to call the eight dead trees but
that's what the medish means. What the
medish means is that physically they
passed away and yet we are sustained by
them.
We lean on them. We continue them. Don't
get deceived by Jewish diversity.
Don't get deceived by the fact that
there's so many different types of Jews.
This is vintage.
Don't get deceived by the fact that
there's so many different types of
people. Don't get deceived by all the
voices inside of you, right? We all have
a lot of voices. We all have a lot of
conflicts. It's all one coy. You are a
conduit of oneness. You are a conduit
for oneness. You are an ambassador of
infinity. You are a channel for the one
light of God in this world. The light of
Ara and Yakov because they are the
fathers of every single Jew. Every coil
of every Jew is ultimately a
manifestation of the coil of the you
have to be able to listen to its depth
and you'll hear the voice of Ara and
they had one coy because they were
connected to oneness one is to their
father in heaven and all the seven
voices in Israel with seven different
levels in a hashem seven branches of the
man if you listen carefully you'll hear
it's kad
and every Jew is coiled as a co kak
The voice is the voice of Yakov. The
hands are the hands of Asov. And Kazal
say when the voice of Yakov is strong,
the hands of Asov could not control
could not control and dominate Yakov.
And that's what the Gmorra says in
he brings it in 69 when Yakov was on his
deathbed and he was afraid that maybe
one of his children has strayed off the
path and they told him
listen. His name was strong.
Just as in your heart is in our heart is
what are they telling him? We know that
we have so many different sounds, so
many different voices. We don't have one
tribe. We have 12 tribes. And there were
so many differences.
Then you had they wanted to get rid of
Ysef. He's not part of us. There's so
many different sounds.
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It's one.
We're not disconnected from our parents.
We're not disconnected from our
grandparents. We're not disconnected
from our fathers, our mothers, our
bubbas, our sades, all the way back
hundreds and thousands of years.
Tavitzky, if we know in epigenetics, our
genes carry all of their experiences.
doesn't only carry the trauma of the
past. It carries the faith and the
resilience and the ms nephesh and the
wisdom and the perceptiveness and the
kindness and the love and the compassion
and the commitment and the loyalty and
the dedication and the depth and the
truthfulness and the authenticity and
the integrity and the purity of every
Jew who ever lived. It's all
transmitted in you and through you.
Every gene of yours carries that coil.
Yes, it may be expressed in different
ways, but it's
what Yeshua is telling us at the end of
Sachin. how you have to view yourself,
how you have to view the Jewish people,
how you have to be able to look deep
into your voice, listen to your voice,
listen to the sound coming from you, and
you'll see that what you're really
searching for and what you're really
trying to express is the ko of
now comes the last sif in theb says,
"Wait,
so the shepherd is protecting the
sheep." Yes, you may think the sheep is
dead, but trust me, the sheep is as
alive as it gets. It's just a different
type of life. It's continuing the life
of the sheep in a different way. The
life of Ramakyakov and therefore the
shepherd protects it as Rehua told to
Adriana's case to Adrian the Roman
emperor. But how long is the shepherd
going to keep it among 70 wolves? How
long does the sheep have to remain so
vulnerable? How long is the gullus going
to be? So the Mishna continues
says
the older they get, the wiser they get.
the better they get. That's the end of
the Mishna. It's not like God is just
trying to torture Jews in gulos.
Wow. Such a powerful v. Every year that
the Jews live through history, they
become so much wiser, so much deeper,
so much more powerful, so much more
authentic.
You know, we always talk about, you
know, the generations go down and in
some ways they go down, but they also go
up.
The older they get,
there's something about the Jewish
people today. The Reb would always see
this and talk about something about the
Jewish people today that is so
beautiful, so pure, so refined. And if
you don't see it, it's because you're if
you're see it everywhere.
And that's what happened. Maybe the Jews
wanted to go out earlier. They said,
"Let's go out without all of the
wealth." But Hashem said, "No, no, no. I
want you to go out with all the wealth.
I want you to go out with all the sparks
that are engulous. I want you to go out,
as the Nova says, with all the silver
and all the gold. I want you to take out
all the sparks from the world and from
yourself so that the gula should be
complete." And that's why the gullus
continues because with each day there's
much more experience and much more
wisdom. But then the Reb says, "But now
we have already reached the full height.
We've reached the full aging, full
maturity.
We have reached ripe old age. We don't
have to stay anymore in gullus. We're
ready." He says, "Even if you want to
tell me that you need another few
seconds in gullus to get more experience
and more wisdom, may God forget all of
these calculations." Even though Hashem
doesn't forget anything, it says
there's no forgetfulness in front of
God's throne. He says that's true, but
the whole exile is lower than God's
throne. The whole exile is an
aberration. Exile is associated with
forgetfulness. And when it comes to
forgetting exile, it's exactly the right
thing to do. And Hashem shouldn't create
an immediate redemption in our own days,
in our own times
down here below 10 cubits.
through
because the old age has been achieved.
Jews have been so many years in gulus.
We have been through so much. He says we
have reached the
sparks have been elevated and
sublimated. And now we are ready for
may it be as he says an immediate
redemption as the Rambam puts it in.
I just want to add one little postcript
and that is
I heard this a few years ago from the
from the brother of the deceased.
This this was said of Z. Three days
earlier a young woman passed away alter
Schwarz.
She was a daughter of Reb of Shalom Dra
from the famous Russian Kabad legendary
Dich family known for their love and
kindness and powerful Jewish hearts. and
Altera
who was married to uh Rip Schlimmer
Schwarz also known as Schwarza.
They were in California UCLA
and this was in 1977. Alterula was a
young woman, a wife, a mother. She had
seven orphans and she died suddenly. I
think it was at a wedding yud of tal
the 17th of of 1977.
She left seven young babies, young
children
and three days later was the fabian kaf
for the Reb's father's yard site and the
sem made on the whole sed kachum and kin
but as you may have realized the theme
is that as the sheep dies the one voice
the one sound is transformed into seven.
This woman Altula
Schwarz
Nid passed away. She left seven
children.
Each one
a gem in their own way. I have the
privilege of knowing
many of her children, some of her
grandchildren
well and indeed her coy,
her voice, her passion, her faith, her
neph, her wisdom, her kindness
continues and it continues to grow like
through her loved ones as is true with
all of our loved ones who have passed on
and the voices the sounds of the
original sheep of our fathers and
mothers continue through us and not just
continue they grow
they acquire much more depth and much
more power and much more potency few
years later her sister passed away at a
very young age her name was Raka Mrs Raa
Shustman
who was married then zangis
They were in Long Beach, California. She
also passed away suddenly. This was in
passed away at Zion of Talam Zion. Mrs.
Schustman passed away. I think dalidness
and tough if I'm not mistaken 1986
also from the dich family
and uh so a few years ago I was talking
to a brother of these two sisters
and he told me that he was sitting he
and his brothers
very very special people.
Extraordinary hearts, extraordinary
people, Jews, husbands, fathers,
grandfathers, very very special people,
very special family. And he told me he
was sitting Shiva with his siblings for
their sister. And people came after the
Fabrangan
and they shared. I don't know if they
heard the hookup in the house. I'm not
sure. I don't know if they had a hookups
done in the houses, but he said people
shared the just made a whole se where he
articulated this powerful idea of the
Kev. There's one ky
applying it to Jewish history. how we
all become a continuum of the voices of
our parents of Abraov and not only we do
just continue it but it continues to
grow and grow and grow and that's what
allows the sheep to grow and to prosper
and gives it the protection of the
shepherd until that moment that the Reb
speaks here at the end of the when the
sheep has grown old enough and we have
acquired all the wisdom and all the
depth and all the experience we need and
he says if there's more to acquire
May God forget about that little extra
dosage. Forget about all the
calculations because gullus comes from a
place where forgetfulness is exists.
Gullus comes from a place below the
throne where there is forgetfulness and
we should experience and immediate
redemption with all of our people and
with all of the generations and with the
entire world. And as he finishes off
a thank you very much. Good night.
I would love to learn with you all the
footnotes,
but that would be another few hours.
Literally, it would be another six,
seven hours. And I think this year was
long
was long enough. But I would encourage
everybody, this is Parish Taza.
Take the next few days
and uh learn through the
if you have a chance learn through the
my mus learn through the footnotes look
up the sources
and you'll see much more depth and many
more layers that we didn't even get into
uh in the whole discussion and the whole
conversation
um there's a lot of sugis that are
discussed especially in the harus and
the makimus sugis in kachim sugis in a
desor sugis in katas
It's it's very very
it would be very worthwhile to uh to
learn through it and a lot of other
things that get discussed in the
footnotes.
We also see here a certain approach.
This was the approach of the Reb to
learning. We get a little bit a little
taste of his
first of all how there's nothing that
just says in the Mishna because it says
it says in the Mishna because it's part
of the theme
also a very big focus on really getting
down to the core of every inion not just
discussing a detail or a nuance
not even dissecting a certain aspect but
really getting down to the core and not
just to the core but also to the
spiritual core.
We also see the interconnectedness
between the whole Tyra.
I just want to add I don't know that
anybody knows for sure why the Reba gave
the seum and if the sem was connected to
the event I spoke about. It was just
something that people felt and they
speculated about and they shared it. So
I just felt it would be appropriate to
give it over. But somebody asks me if I
have a source connecting it. I don't
know. I can't say that this is the
reason. The Reb didn't explain why he's
giving this sum.
He explained the reason he's gum because
he was talking about carbonus and parad
whatever. It's a whole sik. But in terms
of was it connected to this event, it's
very hard for me to know. I'm certainly
not in the position to be able to answer
that. But it was certainly quite uh
moving and fascinating and certainly
very comforting on some level during
such a tragedy to be able to hear this
message from the Reba at the time. So I
just felt it was appropriate to share
and also one of the children of Altera
is an old friend of mine. We grew up
together. He's a classmate of mine and
years ago he said you know this that the
Reb set in the middle of the Shiva for
his mother. He was 5 years old at the
time. But he said this is a very very
complex and nuanced sik and he hopes one
day that I should learn and teach this
in a thorough way. So he should be able
to really appreciate it. So that's what
we did tonight. And I felt it was just
appropriate to add this last postcript
about the time that the Reb said uh this
somebody sent me a photo a few years ago
of uh there was a store on Kingston
Avenue. It was called Essenbench.
Today I think Mendy's is there. There's
a store Mendy's Kingston right across
from 77. It's called Essenbench. Essen
Bench. It was like a a deli, you know,
my hot dogs and mustard. And uh somebody
sent me a picture middle of the night,
my father Allah shalam standing in front
of Essenb
sipping a drink or somebody else near
him is sipping a drink and he's talking
to some people and it's just a beautiful
picture and I didn't know when it was
taken. My brother told me that it was
taken after this
of Zion 20th of 77. It looks like I
think it was taken around you know 1 or
two or 2:30 in the morning. It was a
long faban after the Fabangan people
would go out and buy a drink and
the streets was was full. The streets
were full with people. So it's a picture
of my father at the end of this fabbran
and it was very moving because like a
you know it's like part of history like
it's just a picture of my father
standing on Kingston Avenue with some
people. It's a very beautiful very nice
shot. I'll ask my person to put it up
here on the video so you'll see it. But
it happens to be after this and it's
just moving because this was a really it
was a beautiful and the spoke about a
lot of amazing topics. This was a that
was I think 124 minutes which was a very
long
I think it was around 120. It was a very
very long sa
it was uh yeah
I think more than two hours I think. So
I have to check it up. But it was a very
long extremely long the wasb said and
then he continued it
was a very very long
um it was a kumach
that was making for his father's yard
site.
So yeah, this was just one sik from that
and it was a fabang rich with a lot of
discussions and a lot of sugis and
and goran and and parasu and nigla and
inist and shan and
different contemporary elements in
Jewish life. But this was one of the
crown jewels of that in the
paraz.
Thank you.