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Rabbi YY Jacobson & Rabbi Mendel Lipsker: Navigating the World of Dating #1
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Dating for a Lubavitcher Bochur #1: Rabbis YY & Mendel Lispker Dating for the Lubavitcher Bochur: All you need to know to navigate dating life, engagement, as you enter married life. On 8 Adar |, 5782, February 9th, 2022 To sponsor or dedicate an upcoming class click here: https://www.theyeshiva.net/donate To watch more classes & to read Rabbi YY's articles visit: https://www.theyeshiva.net Follow Rabbi YY Jacobson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/RabbiYYJacobson Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheYeshiva Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yyjacobson Twitter: https://twitter.com/YYJacobson Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yyjacobson/ Telegram: https://t.me/RabbiYY
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Um,
together with that,
American culture,
or
current culture, modern age,
dating,
you know,
our styles, there's our culture.
You know, dating in Israel may be one
way, America's another way, 50 years ago
may be another way, 60, 70 years ago.
You know, in the early days, people went
on a date,
you went on the one train,
and you went up and down the one train
from Newlots Avenue all the way to the
banks, and then back, and that was the
date.
Uh, more elaborate date was to go to
Kennedy Airport. I forgot what it was
called then, Idlewild, maybe after it
was given airport. Kennedy Airport and
you sat by the
by the
gate and you watched the planes go up
and down. What a relaxing environment.
And what does it look like that? And
then the
another way was to go to East Flatbush,
go a little out of town heights and walk
up and down Remsen Avenue on a quiet
street. That's all you got on the date.
A meeting, and everybody got married and
mostly lived happily ever after.
But today we have a different style. You
have there's like expectations and what
you're supposed to do. Some cultures
still meet in the living room. I know
COVID we actually revived a little bit
the old-fashioned dating. You go a lot
of homes in Williamsburg, Borough Park,
Flatbush, people rented out their back
house or front house and you would go in
and sit down and
So, how does that all match up together?
Yes, it's a little bit of a
a challenge, but with saychel, common
sense, good directives, normal friends,
and most of all, a mentor, a mashpia,
a bochur,
whether you have a mashpia, quote
unquote mashpia, real mashpia,
it's up for up for debate, but someone
who you trust, who you can consult with
with all these questions.
But just a little a minute of akdamah
that today many people struggle
with the question, how do I know I'm
ready to date? Or how do I know I'm
ready to get married?
Maybe I'm not responsible enough.
Am I responsible enough? Maybe I don't
have enough money. Today money is so
important. Everybody wants financial
stability. Nobody we're
sick and tired and fed up of living uh
you know, the old life purely on emunah
and purely paying bills and having to
get all the scholarships and all the
discounts and all the frum from food
stamps, rent subsidy, welfare, or
Medicaid, all of that together. And I
well I have an amount of money and the
women want more financial stability.
They want to be able to spend and
everything became so expensive. So maybe
I need to figure out first I need to
figure out how am I going to support a
family? What's going to be my career?
And I'm not there yet. So maybe you So
who said because I'm 22, I'm 23, I'm not
ready?
Um
second Someone mentioned they don't hear
Rabbi Jacobson. He's going to come on in
a minute. He's on. He's on. I'm here.
And second of all, um maybe I'm not
mature.
You know, people talk about boys and
girls dating. Boys and girls somehow
it's still in our lingo. I always say
boys and girls. These days boys and
girls don't get married. Men and women
get married. Amol boys and girls got
married. 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 so you
have an alter ego, a bocher. Today 22,
20 it's a young woman and a young man.
But I maybe I'm not mature enough.
Maybe I don't have my life figured out
enough.
Maybe my values I'm still figuring out
who I am and what's my priorities. Maybe
I struggle with some mental or emotional
issues.
Um various things maybe I have as
bocherim I've been
exposed or to struggle with the
un-sneezed things different things like
that. So maybe I'm not ready.
So why my
parents don't know me?
Well, these are good questions.
And the answer is
Our program is supposed to get you ready
for that.
Working the
program for all the years in Yeshiva and
and mostly
I
know it sounds
when I'm I'm not challenging the system
but
You all have it a little bit. We all
have it. Going through the system you're
learning the
we work on ourselves. That's part and
parcel of going through the Yeshiva
system.
You work on yourself
the ego not to be so selfish more
thinking about the
thinking about
about others.
And then when you through the system and
you you have your your proper ideas and
opinions because it's learned
or the approach to life and different
things like that. So we have
experience of whatever as as a as a Jew
as a
so you should have your opinions ready
to go and your philosophies ready to go
and and now you have your maturity that
hopefully you know
your ego and myself and me myself and I
have not loved after the priority and
everything has to be my way and what I
want and
and hopefully
so you're ready you're ready to take on
the challenge. You don't have to have so
much experience. People have a big time
on the Yeshiva system. Why we don't
teach by us you would be
like in high school and seminary there's
so many classes about a Jewish home and
about the responsibility and about
relationship and about parenting and
different ideas and the Shiva
just flies by and it's a diner it's a
diner. There's some improvement to that
perhaps these podcasts and all different
angles is a is part of the solution and
very good to Shakira to all the
organizers and there's many many
online and different things happening in
the firmament of the world preparing
young men and women for marriage but for
bachurim and this is meant to be for
bachurim here we have to realize that
the traditional
program of Chabad siddur yeshiva
mitzrayim nigleh siddur davening avodah
if you
if you take it in
it is all about pre
it's about being a mensch it's about
responsibility accountability
sensitive not everything has to go my
way learning how to listen to azulas
avis yisrael and
and it's all there there's plenty of
things and you can go you can go on a
journey and if you talk you have all
these questions shua bereishis talk talk
to your parents my parents don't
understand me talk to a sibling talk to
a friend talk to a mashpia talk to a
dating coach they have today
and some shidduchim are very good and
you can get a good feeling about
yourself if you're ready and it
shouldn't stop you most of these
questions many times sometimes you have
to be honest and maybe someone is not
yet ready
but many times it comes from a general
fear and anxiety
it's too much marriage
it's such a big responsibility I'm not
ready and some people are the other way
around they say get married get married
and they get married and all of a sudden
they're completely not ready for
marriage and Then into marriage and it's
it's it's a because they have no idea
what responsibility means getting up on
time, being accountable to somebody
else, managing an account, etc. etc. So,
with the proper patience,
we can out we can out do ourselves.
Um but it's it's it's good not to not
just to jump into it, but actually to
make such a nefesh. Sit down with two
friends. Sit down with your parents. Sit
down with a Make a nefesh. And and talk.
This is my philosophy on this. This is
what I want. This is what I'm looking
for. And am I okay? Ask for feedback.
And when you're ready to go, you're
ready to go.
So,
L'chaim.
Chodesh Adar, chodesh of simcha. Should
have many simchas.
And I pass the mic to Rabbi Jacobson.
Reb Mendel, you can hear me and see me?
Canst thou hear me now? Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.
So, first of all, thank you very much to
my dear cousin,
Rabbi Mendel Lipsker,
and to the organizers, Rabbi Zalman and
uh
Rebbetzin Blooming,
for organizing all of this and everybody
who's gracing us here with your presence
and everybody who was involved.
Thank you very much.
So,
please feel free. I guess Reb Mendel,
you announced about the chat, right?
That everybody could post
any question you would like into the
chat
and we will be addressing them. If you
want one of us should specifically
address it, Rabbi Lipsker or myself, you
could specify it. If not, one of us will
address it. If somebody else has what to
add, I guess he'll add.
I'm just going to open up very briefly
before we begin with the questions
with uh just a general
some a few words of
a few words of introductions
that may be uh
that may be
helpful and relevant.
The first thing I want to say is
what is the function of of what you call
courtship or
or meeting
of a young man and a young woman? What
is the function of it? So, some people
will say
well, I want to get to know the person.
I want to know who
who I'm setting up my house with base of
Hashem.
Right? And that's of course true.
But it's very important to understand
that we barely barely get to know a
person truthfully
through such meetings.
What we really learn about a person
comes often much much later. Sometimes
it takes so many years. And it's
important to understand that.
Because if a person is going to really
feel
that after these and these encounters, I
really know everything
about my second half.
Sometimes we could be very shocked by
what happens later in life.
I think it's much more honest to
understand the truth.
Then when we're meeting somebody, what
we really want to know is if this is the
person
I want to travel with on the journey
of self-discovery
throughout my life. You know, life is
like a hike. It's like a journey. Right?
Life is a line in the
the dark yachts boats. It's called
Yisharim dark Hashem. It's a dark.
The path of life, everybody has their
path in life. It's a hike.
And the hike goes up mountains and goes
down slopes.
Sometimes we have to jump off a cliff.
Sometimes we have to climb heavy
boulders. We have to help each other get
up. Sometimes we trip, we stumble, we
fail.
I don't know everything that's going to
happen on the hike. I don't even know
the person's skills to be able to go
through the hike
intimately and thoroughly, but I know
you're the person
I want to go on this hike with. You're
the person I want to travel with on this
incredible journey of
discovering your life, my life, our
life.
And building of us
with Shakanti beside him.
Building, turning our homes into a
Mishkan,
into a base of Migdash.
Bless us as Barack Obama said.
So, it's very important in other words,
you're the person
that I want to be able to be with
throughout this journey, throughout this
journey of discovery, of discovery.
That's what you want to know.
And to be that person, I should be able
to be that person for you, and you
should be able to be that person for me
is very, very powerful.
And then we begin to discover life
together. Don't go into it thinking you
have mastered the person.
We barely know ourselves.
It's a lifelong journey to figure out
yourself. You think in a few weeks or
even in a few months
you're going to figure out another
person.
That's number one. Number two,
don't ignore things that come up.
Sometimes people say, you know,
there's red flags, but
but it's nothing.
It's important.
If something is not important, okay.
Discuss it with somebody you really
trust as Ramendel said, but don't ignore
anything. Because what may seem as small
and insignificant, you may be dismissing
because you don't want it to be
something, but maybe it's very, very
important. Maybe this is a red flag. So,
don't ignore things. Just bring it up to
somebody that you can trust, somebody
who has dos.
Somebody who has experience, somebody
who cares about you, somebody who knows
about life. I'm not talking about just
to talk to anybody. Talking about
somebody that you really trust and you
really look up to. Somebody who
understands, has dots, has a maturity.
This is extremely important. Another
thing I would say is
it's very important to be able
to truly establish
the fact that relationships are
difficult and successful marriages
require a lot of aveda.
And the more I'm ready to work on
myself, the better I can have a
relationship with somebody else.
A relationship with somebody else is
first and foremost a real relationship
with yourself.
A real real connection with yourself.
In a deep, authentic, pnimiyusdike way.
The more self-awareness there is,
the more I have my issues worked out,
the more I could really be there for
another person. Because without that, I
start confusing sheli shelcha shelcha
sheli. What are your issues become my
issues, my issues become your issues.
Sheli shelcha shelcha sheli is
mishkensed.
So there is that clarity that comes from
aveda pnimis, from internal internal
aveda.
The last thing I want to say before we
go over to the questions
is a general comment about this time in
life.
And I want to say something I heard from
the I had a close to hear from the
rebbe.
It was shabbos parshas
chayei sorah taf shin mem ches.
I was a young yeshiva bochur. And the
rebbe made an the rebbe made an
incredible observation.
The longest parsha in torah, one of the
longest parshas in torah, it is
Eliezer finding a shidduch for Yitzchak
and Rivka.
Avraham sent him out to Charan to go
find a shidduch and he finds Rivka.
It's more than 60 psukim.
You would think that the focus of the
story should be the wedding.
Rivka comes to Yitzchak and they meet,
mashalta chuppah, and after kabbalas
panim at the badekenish, at the chuppah,
at the chasanah, the lebbedike freilach,
that should be the focus.
That's one pasuk.
That's one pasuk at the end after 67, I
think 67 pasukim, it's one pasuk
that Yitzchak got married to Rivka.
Vayaveha
and he loved her, he cherished her,
vayenachem Yitzchak acharei Yitzchak
Aviacha v'yishama, and Yitzchak found
comfort sorrow.
The crux of the story is the search for
the shidduch.
Avraham Avinu talking to Eliezer and
then Eliezer talking back and then the
whole the oath and then Eliezer taking
the camels and traveling and then coming
to the well and then doing the whole
tefillah with Hashem and then it
actually happening and then going to
Lavan and Shmuel's Rivka's parents' home
and then telling over the whole story
and the negotiations and the willing and
the dealing and they don't want her and
they have to ask Rivka and then they go
back
and then one pasuk about the tachlis.
The Rebbe that was speaking at the kinus
for the kinus hashlichim and the Rebbe
spoke about how shlichus works. You
know, it would be very nice if every
shliach goes out
and right away you bring into the
chuppah every Jew with Hashem and it's
all perfect. But most of the work of a
shliach is the relationship, it's
building the relationship, it's building
the connections, it's the hachanah, the
hechsher mitzvah. And people get very
turned off, like what's the tachlis?
Let's just get to the tachlis. No, no,
this is the avodah, this is the avodah
of searching, of removing the obstacles,
of getting to that point.
And why am I saying this to you?
Because the Torah here is telling us a
general blueprint for life.
You know, every tekufah in life has its
challenges and its blessings. What I
find very often, and it's painful, and
it's true both for young men and young
women.
Is that people often think that till
they're not engaged, until they're not
married, you know, life stops. It's like
you reach a certain age where you become
ripe, you know, the grape grape become
ripe and now life stops until you get
married.
And that's not the approach. The whole
you say to be Jewish guide, especially
the way it's explained in this case. The
mission says in Kadushin I need to race
the shamash is coming.
Every day is priceless.
Every journey in life represents an
ultimate tachlis and destination. You
all know the story with the Rebbe
Rashab.
The Rebbe said it over and remember I
heard it from the Rebbe Rashab as far as
Pinhas Tofshin on Olive.
The Rebbe Rashab said they should sing a
niggun.
Cuz he wanted to say a mind and the
bakken wanted to hear the mind and they
sang the niggun swiftly. So the Rebbe
Rashab interrupted them. And he said
this is the seder for a chitsin and it's
for a pnimy.
A chitsin which means an external
person.
Nothing is done authentically. I'm
always onto the next.
But a pnimy woman is this what the Rebbe
words of the Rebbe Rashab and the Rebbe
repeated them. Woman is is men and
gantsen.
If I'm here, I'm present. I'm I'm here
fully with my full presence. So when
you're singing a niggun, not just a
chana for a mind and let's get it over
with. No, the journey itself is the
destination. Shabbat Pinhas on Olive is
an unbelievable sicha that Rebbe
explained that every moment in life that
is essential to the entire kavana of the
entire
creation and existence of the world.
There's no such a thing as a small
detail. If it's a detail, it's negayan
atsmus. It's an indispensable note in
the cosmic symphony if you wish.
It's very painful when people put their
lives on hold. Yes, you went out with
one person and it didn't work. You're on
a second person. Maybe you're on a third
person. Maybe you're on an eighth
person. It's frustrating. And it could
be painful. And there could be
disappointment. And it's important to
have a support system and to have people
that you're speaking to, especially if
you invested so much and sometimes
painful things happen. And it's
important to acknowledge all that.
But never ever feel that life stops
until the moment that the hasana
happens. That's not the case.
Every moment is priceless. Suck the
marrow out of life.
Seize the day. You wake up in the
morning
and I had a talk with him.
My father told me that he heard from
Rabbi Hadakov that the
Rebbe said that the name means as the
tugs
tug.
I am I am. The day should be a day.
Make every day count. Don't just be a
victim of a system or a victim of
somebody who disappointed you. And don't
think that because you're not engaged
for shalom, you're valueless and
inconsequential, especially in certain
societies without family. You feel like
you don't fit in. These are normal
things.
But if the fact that somebody asks you,
"When are you getting engaged?" You
know, some people make wise comments.
It's not easy to hear, but it's
important for you to have that internal
dignity. And utilize your life well. Get
involved in something that's meaningful.
Whatever it is in your life, take it
be productive, be successful, make a
difference, challenge yourself,
stimulate yourself, use your time to
grow. Do not use the journey time as
just time to waste and squander and wait
for the next moment. A
woman is men and guns.
And I shall should give you and all of
us tremendous
and direct you in the right path to be
able to find
what you need and what you want and what
you're searching for so that each and
every one of us should be able to
fulfill the
of our neshama here in this world.
Ultimately,
I love you and I love you. Thank you.
Remember the stuff.
You hear me? Hello?
Hello.
Yeah, yeah, I hear. Sorry, I'm I'm muted
just to have your voice come through
clear.
So, we have a question here. We have a
question. Yeah, so there's two two
questions
uh positions. There's a chat and there's
Q&A.
So, the Q&A has quite a few questions
already, and the chat has one question.
Let's ask the people to put the
questions in Q&A better. You can answer
the first question in the chat.
And then Rabbi Jacobson, I think it
looks like it's for you, and then we'll
move on to the questions and answers
in Q&A, and then perhaps
um
uh
through between the questions, throw in
some dating advice.
So, the first question that came in on
chat is, "How do you know
how do you know if this is the person
you want to go on the self-discovery
journey with?"
Very good.
The Rebbe said in the Gemara, I quoted
the dinner percha, right? Let's go back
to the beginning.
It's very nice. How do I know this is
the right person? So,
obviously, there's the elements that
only you can answer.
There's the element that only you can
answer because uh to put it in the
Gemara's language, "Arba'im yom kodem
yetziras havlad."
Bef- 40 days before you were created as
a bas kol that came out, you know, bas
kol plaining the plaining. Somebody
belongs to you.
Somebody you belong to somebody and
somebody belongs to you. I don't hear
your bas kol.
Only you hear your bas kol.
Not only nobody can hear your bas kol.
Reb Blev Groner was the Rebbe's
long-time secretary from Tav Shin Tes,
1949.
All the years, and he used to tell a
story,
and it's published now also in the first
safer of his diaries, Hamaska,
cuz he put it in his diary. Reb blab
groaner got engaged with his Rebbetzin
Solange Yudin, Rebbetzin Yehuda's
groaner Nigrudevich in tough you
doubt it. Davis tough you doubt it
the beginning of 1954. And remember he
was already a personal secretary of the
Rebbe for 5 years.
And those are the early years when the
Rebbe
you know, had more time and shepherd
shepherd in the system especially the
bathroom in the most
in the closest way in a very revealed
way and this was his own personal
secretary.
So the blab asked the Rebbe the most
natural question after he met her
a few times. I don't know how many times
he said should I finish the up?
Should I complete the up?
And I don't know if you know what the
Rebbe answered him. The Rebbe laid with
all the story and it's not it's not
published from his diary.
The Rebbe told him an unbelievable
answer. This is the Rebbe told his own
personal mask and maybe the closest to
one of the closest people the gosh miss
physically close proximity to the Rebbe.
The Rebbe told him these words.
The Rebbe said when she comes to a
up
when it comes to deciding who is your
match, who is your spouse
if you can't finish tough
I can't help you.
My Tata can't finish tough.
Your father can't help you. My mama
can't finish tough.
Your mother can't help you. My say call
can't finish tough.
Even your cerebral logic can't help you.
No
my heart is
only your heart can help you. If I'm not
mistaken my brother told me that he told
the story from the blab and he said that
the Rebbe pointed to the heart if I'm
not mistaken. It doesn't say I don't
it's not printed in the book that he
pointed to the heart. He said no down
hearts. He said I hope if your heart is
gravitating to it then it's good and you
should complete the up. Now what
did the Rebbe mean if I may explain?
The Rebbe didn't mean that we shouldn't
get advice from people. Of course you
should get advice from your father and
your mother, especially if you have a
great relationship with your parents and
your parents are people who are
confidants and you trust them and you
cherish them and you cherish their
opinion. Of course, you should get
advice.
And of course, you should get advice
from the Rebbe.
But the Rebbe meant ultimately there's a
bascule that you have to hear. It's your
shidduch.
It's your relationship deep deep down.
It's my neshama and it's your destiny
for life. So that's number one.
After saying that, which I think is is
very important, I would just say a few
things that I think, at least from, you
know, for many people it becomes uh
it becomes very important. Who's the
person
you want to go on this hike with? I
would say, you want a person who's not
self-centered.
You want a person who will have empathy.
You want a person probably who's not
rigid, who's not uptight, who's not
stuck in their ways and stubborn. You
want a person who has middos tovus.
Middos tovus, somebody who's kind,
somebody who's empathetic, somebody
who's understanding.
Somebody who has good values.
Somebody who's not selfish, who's not
narcissistic, who's not self-centered.
You want somebody who's kind. Pashut
chesed, a kind, a good dimension, a kind
person. You want somebody who's
flexible.
You want somebody who has yiras
shamayim. Yiras shamayim means they have
real values. They have absolute values.
So have an Eibershter. You know, they
have they have yiras shamayim. They have
things that they care about. You want
that your values should be aligned. You
want to build a house that both of you
want that type of house. You want to
raise a family. You want that your
values. It's very important because, you
know, life is complicated and there's a
lot of different paths, you know, de
aina satala fanacha. So you want to make
sure that your values align. You want to
make sure that you can be honest with
each other.
I should be able to be vulnerable with
you. You should be able to be vulnerable
with me. We should be able to hold hands
even in difficult moments. Holding
hands, I mean spiritually, emotionally.
I want that you should I should feel
that you will support me a thousand
percent and you will feel I will support
you. We don't have to always agree with
each other on the hike. You may want to
go right, I may want to go left, you
want to may go up to find the the spot
where we could see the whole Manhattan,
I may not want to, I may be tired, I
want to just go back down and go out to
eat, whatever it is. But, we should be
able to learn to trust each other.
To really be dedicated to each other,
loyal to each other.
And
I would say one more thing, you want a
person
who's really ready to grow, who's ready
to work on themselves, you know, who's
ready to be humble, who could listen,
who was who who wants to be challenged,
who's ready to hear real criticism. I
don't mean negative criticism, but real
critique. Like the Rebbe Rashab says,
"Ahavas Hashem Kodesh K'tamid K'havay
u'miti." Cherish constructive critique
cuz that will raise you to the greatest
heights. I think these are some of the
qualities that
in a very general way would probably
very would probably be very important
and very helpful for the journey of
life.
What? Okay.
Again, let's request the questions and
answers. Go into the question and
answer. The Mendel is I see
some more in chat, so I don't know I
don't know if
go to the second one in chat and then
we'll move on to the question and
answer.
The next So so let me read the next
question. Maybe you'll answer. Should
bachurim get a job prior to marriage?
Should the Seder Hamem
Should the Seder Hamem, yeah.
Should we get a job prior to marriage?
Is it preferable for a bachurim not just
to stay in 770, in yeshiva and learn?
Should the decision be based on where
the bachur is going to be most
productive? Some bachurim will be
productive in yeshiva in 770 or another
yeshiva, some bachurim won't, they're
going to waste their time. So let them
go get a job.
That's the question of Mendel.
Okay, so you um
You you go. Okay, you uh
There's of course exactly what you said
and it's and it's another question in
the question and answers as well. Shita
derech baalei deya that a person should
first have a malacha that he get
parnassa, then he should get a house,
and then he should marry a woman. There
are such uh there's such an opinion.
There are such cultures even by
in different areas. But the Shulchan
Aruch states nish dazein.
That uh that's not the bottom line and
especially our
advanced culture in the last uh 100 to
100 years is nish dazein. Nevertheless,
a person feels should I get a job? I
mean, many people are working side jobs
on the side on the side on the side,
you know what I mean? But but as a as a
preparation for marriage, you don't need
a job. That's that's clear. You need to
be a structured responsible person and
not a time waster. Does yeah. So if a
person is sitting in the and just
being pushed through the system and
barely learning, you know, 10 minutes
and then yapping and then phone.
So get yourself organized. Get yourself
into a schedule. If the job will get you
into a schedule, it doesn't behave. But
if you have a you want a job in whatever
will get you into a certain structure
and you're feeling productive. But if a
person is in the Shiva and feeling
productive because later on the changes
inside to absorb blick vol and now you
have the opportunity with
all the way without being responsible in
so many ways to a family which will take
so much of your time. And now you want
to learn is
it's in line. So the question is
to get a job prior to marriage, it's not
a a necessity. But if you're just in the
Shiva because a job is is
not look nice on the faith is not. If
you're Shiva is just if you're just
wasting time, then move to something
structured and talk to your mashpia
about this obviously.
It's important it's important to
remember what Hazal say. Shimo may be a
little bit at all of that.
And much more when when people are
bored, when people are lonely,
people become broken.
People end up in all types of situations
as the Rambam famously says, I think at
the end of Shulchan Aruch, right? That
in as the Alter Rebbe said, in a pustke
kleiptzich,
in in an empty space where there's
nothing, something is going to fill that
empty space.
So, remember, if our life is empty,
if I'm just waking up every day whenever
I want and there's no structure, there's
no meaning to my life, there's nothing
exciting me,
ultimately, the results can be
catastrophic. So, just to be able to
look at your friends and say, you know,
I'm in yeshiva,
it's very nice, but the main thing is
pnimiyus, you know, who you are as a
person. So, really, it's so important to
structure your life in a in a meaningful
and productive way. Of course, whatever
you choose, there should be a certain
amount of the day that you're dedicated
to learning because at any age,
uh learning Torah every day is oxygen,
physical oxygen, spiritual oxygen,
emotional oxygen.
Good.
Um by the way, through the questions, I
think if you have any specific advice
about dating and I think people want to
hear that. There's a question here, is
this a discussion of general dating or
specific topics? Well, a little bit
general and mostly specific topics what
people want to hear as the questions
Here is a difficult question Rabbi
Jacobson, I think you should answer
first. Any advice for someone dating a
second time around after divorce or a
broken engagement?
That's a That's a very important
question.
And briefly, the advice that I would
give for somebody who's dating
after divorce
or a broken engagement, which of course
can be compared to the divorce, but it's
a broken it's a broken it's a it's a
difficult experience.
I think it's important to answer a few
questions very honestly, and you may
need the help of somebody
to give you feedback on these questions.
And the question has to be
what caused the divorce?
Uh who's accountable for the divorce?
Maybe both of us, that's fine.
But what was my role in the divorce?
Now, you could say nothing, I was a
victim. She was a perpetrator, she was
impossible, she had narcissistic
personality disorder, she had
borderline, she had mental illness, I'm
a good guy. Maybe, maybe it's true, but
the question is something else. What was
still your role in the divorce? Meaning
were you passive for many years? Did you
ignore a lot of things? Did you allow
yourself to become a doormat? Did you
allow yourself to become a shmata? Did
you allow yourself to be abused? That's
the role you played. In other words, you
have to be very very honest. What role
did you play in this divorce? Whatever
it is, as a perpetrator or as a victim.
Number two, how did the divorce affect
you?
How did the broken engagement affect
you? Again, what was your role and how
did it affect you? Who are you today?
These questions are extremely important
because has for shalom, you don't want
to go into a situation where new stuff
come up and you did not really use the
crisis. You know, the greatest mistake
in life is
to allow a crisis to pass
without turning it into an opportunity
for extraordinary growth.
So, if you can answer these questions,
what was my role in the divorce and in
the broken engagement? Either
as a mazik or as a nizik, maybe those
are sharp words, but maybe either either
as a mashpia or a makabel.
Either as somebody who was part of the
problem
in one way or another way. Maybe I
allowed it to happen, maybe I was an
enabler. Maybe I was part of it. Maybe I
was myself clueless, etc. Number two,
what did I learn from it? Did I work on
myself? Did I emerge from it? Am I a
different person today? Do I have more
awareness today? Or no, I'm just trying
with another person. Don't just say I'll
try with another person. So, that's also
very, very important to be able to
establish.
And the last thing I think is very
important to ask myself,
you know,
am I emotionally scarred by this and is
it going to contaminate the new
relationship? Do I have what it takes to
go into the new relationship with
chiyus, with enthusiasm, with openness?
Or I'm going to be, you know, bitter and
angry and resentful. So, those are
important things, you know, has there
been forgiveness? Has there been
reconciliation? Am I ready to move on or
I'm going to schlep that toxicity into
the new relationship? So, I think these
are some of the things that we have to
ask ourselves and then it's a very
honest conversation.
Thank you. Good. Yes.
The um
another question.
What are the consequences if I marry
someone not by the shidduch system? Why
is that terrible?
I'm not sure. Does that mean find your
own shidduch?
Does that mean someone who you got to
know in high school in a non-kosher way
and now you want to get married?
Um
and what is so terrible if I just find
my own
idea, you know, by a Shabbos table or
whatever it is. I'm assuming that this
is the question.
Um
So, in general,
from stories that I've heard from
reliable sources,
the Rebbetzin Shidduch is obviously
l'chatchila and b'di'eved. L'chatchila,
we have an established system, which is
the way to go.
What What a person doesn't feel
themselves as part of the system and
have no hope? We know how many should
look at them happen by friend's
suggestions. If something came your way
and it already happened and something is
there,
then of course you will buy a Shabbos
table and you happen that someone else
was there. So, you can ask a friend or a
shadchan to get involved. But what's
probably the question is more what if I
was hanging out at a bar where where I
was where where I was at a party and I
met someone and we struck up a
conversation and
shine now what happens? So, I have to
say no, this was a non-kosher meeting
and therefore
it needs to stop and start over in the
shidduch system. So, I've heard quite a
few stories from the Rebbe especially in
the early years
that there were
there was a time both with one
individual and with a group of a few and
the big chassidim around holler came to
the Rebbe with a crisis, what to do? The
the the young men and ladies the the
talmidim were hanging out with some
talmida's and it's terrible and and and
and
it's a crisis.
And the Rebbe's approach was
that was then up up and you can shidduch
him what's now now.
That
if this is if it's
if it's already happened with the Rebbe,
don't make a crisis and call it
something terrible. Use it as an
opportunity and if they're compatible,
make a shidduch.
The same thing happened in the previous
Rebbe's times in Brunoy in the early
days such and such a maiseh with the
with a yeshiva and it was
it was
wait a minute the moderators here can
figure out if they publish this or not
for the
eternal podcast. But it's happens this
is reality. Dating is about being honest
as much as possible. And
and there was a story that they came and
holler to make the sitzung in Brunoy
that they found brivlach letters going
back and forth between a bachur and
yeshiva and
seminary in
Yale.
I didn't know what to do. It was such a
crisis. They decided that they can't
just mail a letter to the Friediker
Rebbe. They're going to send a special
shliach to the Friediker Rebbe that's
going He was going anyway for a wedding
or something. They're going to give him
a personal letter. He's going to hand it
to the Friediker Rebbe and
I was a little bit tongue-tied. We'd
throw him out of the yeshiva. We'd give
him a knas or whatever.
And basically the Friediker Rebbe's
answer was they should get married
b'shaa tovah u'metzlachas
as quick as possible.
Okay, this is It's called b'di eved and
and and and and very
fine family in Lubavitch. So, it's not a
scar or something wrong. You You You
were born in original sin and it's a
terrible thing. When we're talking about
b'di eved and today we're You know,
there is a many a many a situation of
b'di eved.
You do the best you can. You steer it in
the right direction and
and you make it work. So, I can say
there are terrible consequences. But, if
it was
not counseled and not using friends
afterwards and not really analyzing and
just being a premature immature falling
in love,
that can end up in a difficult life with
a difficult relationship because if it
was done
If it was just left to flow I need to
get married. You need to get married. We
fell in love.
You know, you have to be more
serious about it.
And
b'ezras Hashem u'l'fi zman b'shaa tovah
u'metzlachas.
Reb Yaakov's the next question.
Yeah, on chat somebody says
there's a problem and that is that the
girls in the profiles put economic
stability
as a condition.
How do you respond to this? They all
want the same thing today. They want
that the boy should have
economic stability
and somebody else says how would you
implement the five languages of love in
dating
and generally in Judaism?
So,
in terms of your first question,
I would say, yeah, perhaps some people
this is a condition for them.
And okay, if this is their condition,
this is their condition.
But, to tell every bochur shalom to stop
learning and to go get a job,
I don't think that is at all
appropriate.
I think what
many many young women want is they want
a responsible person. They want a person
that when the right time comes, he or
she is not just going to be on the couch
all day
and rely on the mana that fall from
heaven, but it's a person who's
proactive and a person who's going to be
creative and a person who's going to do
their
but
or
shalom
But, a bochur who's sitting and learning
and staying away in nigleh and in
and in
and in davening and in working on
themselves and in growing as a person,
saturating their days and nights with
and
you don't have anything that is that is
greater, that is sweeter, that is more
authentic. And we
our entire existence is based on the
that Hashem runs the world and we do
what we have to do and at the right time
if it's talking about a serious person.
So, if it's a bochur who's just in
Yeshiva again as an excuse because
there's nothing else to do, you know,
I'm alive because I never died, I
understand the concern. But, if you're
talking about and I think we all have to
ask ourselves that question.
You know, if you're talking about a
person who's productive, but now if my
productivity is expressed in
then it's it's the greatest productivity
in the world. It becomes the foundation
for everything cuz a bochur who's really
learning and really davening and really
working on themselves, they make the
best husbands in the world.
Because what does it mean to be a good
husband? To be a good husband means that
you're accountable,
you're authentic,
you have real
you have humility. You have bittul.
You can transcend your own ego and
create space for another person. You
don't live in a shadow of
self-consciousness and yeshus. So,
that's the greatest the greatest hachana
for marriage is to have a home where
there is refinement. You want a home
where there is refinement. There's
eidelkeit. There's modesty. The
Shechinah dwells over there.
And a person who's saturated with Torah
and avodah, uh the home is a beautiful
home. It's an eidel home. The
communication is refined.
The middos are good middos. I'm talking
not about just learning
in an abstract way so that people could
say, you know, I am a genius. I'm
talking about learning in a way that we
internalize it. Like the Tzemach Tzedek
said, you know, "Nisht du lernst Torah,
Torah lernt dich." Not only I learn
Torah, the Torah lernt dich. Not only I
learn Torah, the Torah
taught me.
That's as far as that. As terms of the
five languages of love,
it's a very I thought it was a very
helpful model. For those who don't know,
um there was an author who explained
that different people need different
have different love languages, right?
And uh
and it and when a person is married and
also with your children, it's important
to find out what their love language is
is because you may do things that are
very nice, but it's not really what
they're
looking for. And that's very important.
This is where communication comes in.
And I'm just going to say this as a
yessod.
You know, we often believe that a good
relationship means I have to guess. I'm
a novie and you're a novie. I know
everything my wife is thinking. My wife
knows everything I'm thinking. Are there
yechidus gullah that you could finish
the sentence of your wife and she could
finish yours and our such yechidus
gullah. But to turn that into the
the normal standard of a relationship,
communication, communication,
communication. Tell me what you're
feeling so I'll know what you're
feeling. And I need to tell you what I'm
feeling. And when you hear what I'm
feeling, don't respond with judgment or
anger. Listen.
Be attentive. Make space for it just
like I need to make space for what
you're feeling. So, it's extremely
important during dating and later,
especially later, to communicate.
Communicate how I'm feeling and even
small things. Communication doesn't mean
to talk about big grand ideas. In fact,
couples that only speak about big grand
ideas are such others.
Uh
good relationships, you talk about
clinic height. You talk about small
things because it's like like this is
this is this. It's not how big it is.
It's the good that there's a
relationship. And the connection is
emphasized in the smallest of things.
The smallest of things could become the
biggest of things. Like the album says
in this true. So, the mailer, it's
important to learn the other person's
language. And that takes humility and it
takes a lot of attentiveness.
Yeah. Good. I just want to comment that
uh
I I don't know. Some contemporary
marriage um
consultants
uh
have different opinions about the five
love languages. If it's uh
just for a few years it caught on and it
was as if oh, this is the night of
Bible. This is the solution to all
problems if you figure it out.
And now people are a little bit shifting
from it that uh you know, it's a good
idea, but
uh love language will help but there's
maybe other ideas that can work as well.
Just for a comment.
Next question in the question and
answer. Should age stop a person from
starting to date? Let's say somebody is
about 20, 21 even if he has all the
qualifications to start.
And the answer is absolutely that I'm
dating. The Rebbe was very strong of the
opinion that if people are ready to get
married early, 20, 21, the Rebbe said
many times that I'll be saying in the C
and U early 20s. That was the Rebbe's
lashon. The that I would obey him
was to look for shidduchim in your early
20s. And they were exceptions. In other
words, the other ones were exceptions.
And 20, 21 is not too early if the
person is mature and ready.
And today it's becoming more and more
common. Some people say, "Well, it's too
young. You're not responsible yet."
Well,
obviously the question was if somebody
is has the qualifications, then go for
it.
I wanted to say about the question if
you're asked about financial stability.
Um
maybe some people put it on their
profile and what they mean is that the
person
has a an understanding of responsibility
not to have to live a tight and simple
and good life because
because many Hasidic people say, "Well,
what is gelt?" What is not gelt? Without
having simcha, davening, learning, what
is gelt? To get a job to get 9:00 to
5:00, get paid, pay rent, and what about
and and living in darkness?
What's very accepted in in in in in the
Lubavitch Hasidic world? But I think
first of all, people, that's why they're
putting it in their profile. They want
someone who I don't want to say values
money, that money is a priority in life,
but values
that that that it's important to have
the drive to go get a job and pay the
bills and not to have to be and have to
count the pennies.
Besides the point that we see that since
you know, especially the late 1970s and
the after the
came on to Lubavitch with
the
is unbelievable and the says many times
in the and
even in the last years From on base,
from on base. days
and and and therefore it's
but it's it's it's not that we worship
money and we worship luxury and and and
and you know, but it's not
with all luxuries. But it means that
it's a it's a priority to have enough
before
and not to have to struggle. So it's
it's more about the
what they mean is not that a person has
to have financial stability before they
get married, but has to be with all and
drive that he's going to make sure that
he's going to be and he's not going to
be a schlepper and that and that the
wife is going to must going to have to
go work full-time and not have time to
be home with the kids because he can't
get his act together.
Next question.
Um
In all fairness, I know it's not our
topic tonight. I just want to make this
maybe just a little bit safer that in
that sicha truman and base
the Rebbe did say
something very very unique and that is
that
a Jew is connected to zahav, gold
and that a Jew should have should be
mishtadel to have a shidduch pshuta.
The Jew should actually try to be
materially wealthy.
And the Rebbe said with that wealth
they'll be able to do amazing incredible
things including use the wealth because
of to build the third Beis Hamikdash
with gold.
Generally, as you know the Rebbe
especially in the later years
you know, he he wanted everybody to
develop big hasagos
harchava, to think big
to build and expand, you know, and
change the world. The Rebbe wanted we
should everybody should change the
world. Everybody should maximize
themselves. So, it's important to be
able to
think very very big, but do not
it should not come from a place of
insecurity.
To come from a place of empowerment. To
come from a place of this is what Hashem
wants for me to be able to utilize my
kochos and I'm going to allow myself to
be a channel.
But not to allow the materialism
to take over my life and destroy my
priorities because ultimately what you
want most in a family is you want
menuchas hanefesh. You want serenity,
you want trust, you want a relationship.
And yes, we need money. We want a
hachana. We want to have dira na'a,
machshava da'as. A lot of you want a
nice home. You want to be able to have
clothes. You want to be able to give
your children what they need.
But what you really want is it should
all be part of the relationship. It
should be part of the connection with
yourself, with the other person, and
with Hashem.
But
the next question is a little bit
longer. If you want to read it, Davila.
On the concept of Ezer K'negdo, the idea
is that the only way that I will
experience dissonance in the
relationship is if I'm doing something
wrong. Is that not a dangerous idea? If
a person takes this too seriously, they
can develop a serious self-loathing and
not be able to defend themselves in an
abusive relationship cuz they say, "Oh,
my wife has to disagree with me as Ezer
K'negdo." I know it's weird to talk this
way as a guy, as a bochur, but coming
from a home where my father was always
treated as an inferior shmata, even in
front of the kids, I am afraid that my
wife is going to abuse me and I'm going
to have to be quiet because Ezer
K'negdo.
It's a good good question. The Mendel
the Vilna Gaon and the Vilna Gaon's
answer. Answer the Kitzur.
Okay, so very very Kitzur. Chas v'shalom
to think that Ezer K'negdo means
that it's a mitzvah to take abuse
and
that
and that should you should become an
inferior creature. Chas, I'm laughing
out of sadness that you should feel that
you
you need to become an inferior creature
in the house and your spouse can take
advantage from you, whether it's the
husband or the wife. Ezer K'negdo means
something completely different. The way
the Alter Rebbe explains it in Torah Or
Parshas Bereishis, and also there's a
beautiful commentary of the Netziv and
how Maggid Dov on it in Chumash, it's
the idea, the exact opposite idea.
And that is when people respect each
other,
so then our differences of opinions
don't become reasons to denigrate
somebody. They become reasons
and sources to appreciate each other
more, to expand our horizons. The best
example for this is the whole Shas,
Mishnayos and Gemara. The Mishna says in
Yevamos that Beis Shammai and Beis
Hillel didn't stop arguing, but they
never stopped respecting each other and
loving each other. How amazing
Masha'Allah my ha'eivu. Beis Hillel
would actually give preference to the
words of Beis Shammai, and that's why in
the whole Mishna which was edited by
Rebbe Yehudah HaNasi, who was a grandson
of Hillel, he always first says divrei
Beis Shammai and then divrei Beis
Hillel. Why? Why are you giving the
opinion
stating the opinion of your opponent
first? The answer is because another
opinion is not seen as something that's
going to crush me and denigrate me. It's
really an opportunity to learn about the
other person, to connect to you, to
expand my horizons. That's what eizeh
kenegedei means. If chas v'shalom it's
being used that the husband and the wife
become a shmata and your opinion is
insignificant and you're always wrong,
that's not a relationship that can
flourish. And it's very important to be
able to see what type of person it is.
If it's a person who cannot respect
another opinion, if it's a person who
cannot make space for your emotions,
remember, in marriage there's no such a
thing as objective truth. In marriage
there's something called subjective
truth. I see life certain ways, you see
life certain ways. We're not going to
both be able to see everything in the
same way. That's fine. We just have to
be able to listen to the other person's
view and respect it. Make space for it.
Be empathetic towards it. Learn from it.
Grow from it. Be humble about it. And
sometimes it's okay to disagree as long
as the disagreement doesn't become a
source of mistrust and conflict.
What?
What are some good questions to ask
while dating to really get to know
someone?
Um
So, I want to say first of all,
I'm not so sure that by asking questions
you can get to know someone.
Period at all.
But
you part of dating is to see if there's
compatibility
and to see if there's a match and
getting to know someone is just by being
present, relaxed, and spending time
and talking to each other.
Like I said before, Rabbi Jacobson, you
know, how much are you going to get to
know the person during dating?
But
let's talk about dating for a minute.
It's It's
Of course, common sense maybe is not
that common anymore, but pay attention
as Bachurim learning in Yeshiva and then
relationships and and manners and then
the Halachot and the Limud is not on the
high priority list. Maybe it should be.
So, when we're talking about dating,
spending time with someone, be careful,
be sensitive
and that's perhaps how you can show
yourself who you are and you can see the
other person for what they are.
Um
There's
you know, there's an attitude to have
How should I be on a date? Should I be
myself? Well, in Yeshiva I sit like this
and that's how I do. So, maybe on the
date I should just be
because that's how I am and that's how
I'm going to be on my couch. So, maybe
on the date I should just be myself with
all my glory.
And of course, that's an extreme of
Shiga'on.
On the other hand, you don't want to put
up an act, a complete act. You have to
be your natural self because that's how
you're going to see if you can handle
each other.
But if I may for 2 minutes address some
Menschlichkeit issues
when it comes to a date. Um
Notify the Shadchan beforehand what type
of place you want to go to
because if it's going to be cold or not,
indoor, outdoor, so the woman can dress
appropriately. It's very important for
women to be able to dress accordingly to
where they need to be.
Although to you it may be just be a
one-piece suit, yes, sweater, no
sweater, coat, uncoat, off, but that's
not fair.
Be very sensitive with time.
And understand you should be on time,
very important. And if not, make sure
that something happens, make sure that
there's a good reason, and let them know
beforehand. Understand that for women,
there's always last-minute delays. Know
that, right? As the saying goes, when
your wife says, "I'm going to be ready
in 5 minutes," you can start learning
Rambam,
and perhaps you'll be finished three
prakin, because that's sometimes 5
minutes takes 15 minutes. So, give the
2-minute break. Or if there is some
people the shidduch and the shidduch the
text the woman, "I'm here." Or text the
shidduch, "Whatever it is, I'm here."
Take your time. That's giving a little
bit of sensitivity that they should
feel, "Oh, I'm here." Oh, I better go
and create stress.
Like this, "I'm here, take your time."
It's a sensitive thing.
What about opening the door of the car?
If you're going in a car, opening the
door for the woman. So, some people say,
"Ah, that's too much." It is menschlich,
it's a menschlich thing. Hold the door
open. If you're in the car, open the
door from the inside. Want to go around
from the outside, then make a whole
you know, formal opening the door.
But that's a nice thing to do, it's a
gesture.
Especially when you're walking in in the
date into a building, out of a building,
hold the door open.
Uh I know many bachurim are inclined to
let ladies first. You open the door,
she should go in first.
And we heard I've heard it on a Zoom
from I think Mrs.
Zalewski in Cleveland, that she brought
her chosson, I believe. Maybe they were
newlyweds or a chosson to visit the
Rebbetzin Chana
in 4818,
and he so kindly opened up the door of
the apartment and let her go in first.
And the Rebbetzin Chana commented to
him, "By uns,
filt men zach as the man geht arayn
frier."
So,
now there's a Lubavitch etiquette that
the man enters first, even though you
want to be so super kind. So, holding
the door doesn't mean
you don't have to enter first. Just an
idea to bring, you know, it's
There is a There is a concept of kosher
etiquette.
Um
The Mendel, you know, the mice and with
the Rebbe Nachman Shlita
Zog. It's in the sichos. He was once in
Germany
with Rebbetzin with Rebbetzin Stein
Assada
and he went in to a sophisticated German
Rabbi
and the Rebbe Nachman Shlita went in
first. So, this Rabbi looked at him and
says, "Wo ist Damenrecht?"
Which in German is what happened to
women's rights?
Wo ist Damen
Damenrecht.
Like how could you behave this way? And
the Friediker Rebbe writes
the zol go ain of the moyes. The Rebbe
Nachman Shlita tears came down from his
eyes.
He felt uh
Whatever you could explain it as you
wish, but that's just an interesting
story. I'm sorry, go ahead.
I don't know. It's very good. Thank you
for bringing it in.
Damenrecht. Wo ist Damenrecht?
Um another thing very important on
dates.
Show sensitivity to time.
Um sometimes just at the beginning of
the day you can say
"I know you have work tomorrow.
Is there a time when you would like to
be back?"
Like a heads-up. It's such a
It's such a relaxer in the beginning.
And yes, on the woman's speak up and uh
you know what to say? You know, the
truth is, "Yeah, I would like to be back
by 11:00, but you know, you know,
whatever goes well with you."
But at least you brought There's so many
things
today's day and age the cloud people
struggle with stress and anxiety and
worry and insecurity. So, the more
relaxed it can be
instead of being a little yichud and a
whole sheer or or or or a project, you
can just be relaxed and be natural by
preempting and getting rid of the
stresses.
Maybe she's getting tired, but she'll be
uncomfortable to say, you know, I think
we should go back.
When it's stretching a little, you can
say,
"Would you like to go now or stay a
little bit longer?
Would you like to go back home or please
let me know."
That's just I know it's kind of sounds
common sense, but sometimes we don't
have stuff because oh, it's going good.
But yeah, she'll say she'll say if she
want to go back. Why not? She's an
adult.
A lot of guys get
She doesn't want to get disappointed.
So, you're the man. Take the lead and be
proactive
in these things and and you see the
responses. You'll get to know people.
And the whole it's a good idea for
bachurim when you're getting ready to go
on dates,
as we call it today, talk to your
mother, talk to your sister. If you
don't have experience, it's a good idea
to talk to some uh
to some ladies to get some advice.
What I wanted to say about this
question, what are good questions to ask
to get to know someone.
Well,
dates, I know the the the the formal
dates are like questions, question
questions. That's feeling like an
interview.
It's better if you can have the
conversation flow instead of asking
questions. When talking to the you know,
like let the topics flow.
So, it becomes just talking and that's
how you can sense somebody. Pay
attention. Am I comfortable? Am I
relaxed with this person? Is this person
making me stressed or this? And you can
say, you know,
uh
Instead of asking, you can you can get
into any conversation without the
question.
Tell me about your work.
Tell me more. Let's talk about your
family. Oh, look at the beautiful
scenery out there. I love this place.
Or or things like that. You can just
bring
the conversation flow versus question
answer. It becomes silent time and
nervousness. Am I asking the right
questions? Am I not asking the right
questions? It's easier if there's no
questions and you can
you can get the conversation going. I
know it doesn't always work, but it's
just an idea. You know, people today
come from the garden game. They come
with a list. We have an official game
we're going to play and it's
for some people it works because they
have a hard time conversing, but for
some people it's not needed if you can
get the conversation flowing.
It's
That's a general idea that I I'm not
going to fight with the garden game.
Let the garden game talk to the garden
game.
And about this, but people are are into
doing activities together. We're going
to go bowling. We're going to go play
games. We're going to go to a restaurant
to eat. So, number one
the biggest distraction to a good
conversation is eating at a restaurant.
Just know that. Think about that.
Bowling, it's an activity. It's a
distraction and just sitting together
talking in a relaxed way to see how you
are with the other person.
So, sometimes it's needed, but that's
like that's I don't want to say with the
other. That's That's when there's an
exception already. But the garden game
still have to go plan activities.
It's the garden game taking away from
the precious time where you're just
supposed to
be there with the other person.
To see, this is just
my opinion. I don't think it has to be
thought about a little bit. Okay.
Maybe it's a future talk anything or the
next question. Somebody asks a Mendel.
He went out with a girl and they had a
mutual understanding that they liked
each other as friends, but it wasn't
they didn't feel that it's marriage
material. They went out again, but there
was still no intense feelings.
And they felt that it probably won't end
up in marriage, but they still
would like to go out again because they
they appreciated each other as friends.
So, he's asking
after how long of not developing a more
intimate feeling than friendship, does
it make sense
to stop going out and say, "Okay, it's
not going to work."
What would you answer?
In other words, obviously sometimes
after one, two, three times you know
it's not going to work. But he says
they're enjoying each other as friends.
You know, just as more cerebral friends
I would say, platonic friends they call
it.
But uh so he would like to and she would
like to, but he feels that it's not
going to that place of marriage. So
is it worth it to continue or is it not
worth it to continue?
We're we're we're not into in our
lifestyle as from a
Hasidim, we're not into spending time
with females
to just to be friendly.
If there's a potential to get married,
metotes. If there's no potential to get
married, get advice. I mean, I know the
numbers have gone up tremendously.
You know, five dates, 10 dates, 15, 20,
25 is today kind of still okay. You have
to really ask a friend, a coach, a
shadchan, a rav if you're just not
wasting the other person's time. You're
not wasting her time or she's not
wasting your time because life is you
know. But if if there's advancement and
there's things going on, so you have to
say how you have to try. The only reason
to try again is get it off of friendship
and into more intimate because
sometimes it doesn't move because nobody
is willing to be vulnerable.
So you try, be a little more vulnerable.
Talk more about something which may be
uncomfortable
to talk about. And she can try that. And
if it doesn't go and you're sure two,
three times that this is just going to
be friendship,
so it's it it's not fear. It's passion,
not fear. And
even if both agree, no, what do you
mean? I'm not in a rush to get married.
We'll go on another five dates. It'll
help me with the dating experience.
She missed my scalp.
Right. Let's move on to the question and
answers. What are some ways to
accurately
ass- access or assess?
Assess, assess.
I think you're trying to say assess
mental health during dating process.
Oh, that's an important question.
So, there's things that you
I think you should address also, not
only how can you assess, but what if you
are struggling with some mental
emotional health issue, at what point if
at all does it need to be shared?
Right. Right.
So,
these are
these are very very sensitive and very
very serious questions.
In terms of you assessing the other
person's mental health,
it's critical.
Because if you have doubts about it and
you have questions and there are red
flags,
you really want to investigate it more.
Because
it may be, by the way, that a person
struggling with mental health and
dealing with it
is an incredible human being. I just
want to say this for the record.
Some people,
and I know this,
you know, from hundreds and hundreds of
people that I have very close
relationships with,
in person and through correspondence,
people who struggle with mental health
challenges,
but they take responsibility and they
take accountability for it. And they
work on it, they are some of the most
incredible people in the world in terms
of depth, in terms of MS, in terms of
pnimeus, in terms of avoida, in terms of
bittel, because they fight, they fight
for their lives.
Dr. Twerski, somebody once asked Dr.
Twerski a love of Shalom, he always
spoke about recovery. The guy said, "Do
you really look up to addicts in
recovery as much as you say? You talk
about them in your lectures." He says,
"You want to know? My lawyer is an
addict in recovery. My accountant is an
addict in recovery. My cardiologist is
an addict in recovery. My barber is an
addict in recovery."
He says, "Those are the only ones I
really trust, cuz they work on
themselves." So, it's important to
important to emphasize that.
But, but here's the key. But, you have
to know you have to know who you're
dealing with. You may have a struggle
and the fact that the other person has
their own struggle and you can both be
honest maybe an unbelievable bond, but
it's important to know who the other
person is. You have to take the time.
Maybe you have to do some searching. You
have to do some investigation. Remember,
some people who are dealing with serious
conditions may cover it up by dating.
And Hashem,
you don't want it to come out later and
then you're left in a situation that
you're that's very very difficult.
Another important thing,
when things come up, you have to deal
with it in the beginning.
Some people, they see things in their
spouse and they wait 20 years till it
gets out of order and then you have not
only the original problem, you have 20
years of compounded problem with all the
interest. Twice was a middle by the
acre. So, it's important to deal with
things after you're married in the
beginning. But, I want to say generally,
so it's important to assess it. It's
important to ask. It's important to do
investigation. You may need help from
some people.
You want to know about the person's
midos. You want to know about the
person's attitudes. It's also a chiyuv.
If I'm dealing with something at some
point
during the dates, it's important to
share now. I don't think it should be
the first or the second or even the
third date. There's a big posek in posek
Rav Dovid Cohen. He's from the big
posekim in New York. Rav Elyashiv.
Machabeh Swarim. So, I heard from him
that he said that, you know, maybe the
fourth date later, when there's already
much more and and we're talking about a
misunderstanding and you want to
continue,
you know, the fourth or afterwards at
some point to share with the person that
there's a struggle because if you share
before the first date, they won't want
to go out with you. If you share it
after the 20th date, it may be unfair to
them.
But, at some point where they can
appreciate your value and your humanness
and your mylus and then put it in
context, it's important to share. Now,
it's only important to share things
that this I heard from some
big therapist and posek who dealt with
it that are going to affect the
marriage. If you had an experience once
and you really dealt with it, I'm not
talking if you didn't deal with it.
You know and God knows, so be honest.
But if you really really dealt with it,
it's not always a chiyuv to bring it
into the dating. Not everything do you
have to bring into the dating if it's
not going to affect the marriage. But if
it's going to define the marriage and
the other person needs to know who you
are, you may be an unbelievable person
because of it. But I have to be able to
share it. There are maybe some unique
situations where you know it's really
not going to affect the marriage. Okay,
still get advice from somebody who who
cares because you don't want to do
gneivas daas, you do not to deceive
another person
and then afterwards it becomes so much
harder.
Is is
is really
really inappropriate. And I just want to
say one more thing, you know.
And then mentally you'll tell me if you
agree.
The myth of perfect families is gone.
The only families that I know that are
perfect are the families I don't know.
You know, maybe there are some perfect
families, two and a half of them and
they live in countries or continents
that I have I'm not aware of.
We are all suffering, trust me, in every
single family. I know no family. There's
mental illness.
There's depression.
There's trauma.
There's anxiety.
There's wounds.
And you know what? We always talk about
this. It's not even things necessarily
from our generation.
We know today scientifically we carry in
our genes
3,000 years of Jewish history. Letoiv
ulamutiv, we carry all the emunah, all
the mesirus nefesh, all the bitachon,
all the resilience, all the yiras
shamayim, all the middos toivus. And we
also carry other things.
And it's coming out in our day. So, all
of us have to be humble
and realize you don't want to marry a
perfect person. You want to marry an
accountable person.
You want to You know, we don't need to
be We need accountability. And that way,
you know, we need to We need to become
less judgmental
and stigmatize people less,
but
we need to always remember that to do
this, we all have to become part of a
conversation that is much more authentic
and much much more honest, where we can
appreciate that we don't put people into
boxes, and we understand that people go
through journeys. And the critical point
is, am I taking responsibility for my
challenge and dealing with it? Do I have
the tools and resources
or not?
Those are some very brief pointers that
I would say to Mendel, perhaps you want
to add, cuz this is a very sensitive
issue. No, good good. Now, for some
people who are
who are faster daters and finish a
shidduch in five dates,
there are still some of that, some, then
most probably date three is already a
very serious date, then it could be a
time to bring it up.
Just that was my only comment.
Otherwise, it's true. By the way, the
same thing is with regular health issue.
You have a health issue that's not a
an emotional or mental issue, physical
health.
Also, if it's going to affect the
marriage, then when it gets serious,
it's time to bring it up.
Reb Mendel, somebody says,
"Can you address forming an emotionally
romantic connection where you really,
you know, become deeply emotionally
connected while balancing tznius during
dating?"
So,
that's a very good question because
with frum eating, and there's no negiah,
and there's no flirting, and there
the simple language, and there's no
overly romance and it has to be gentle
and menschlich
and caring.
So, that you got to do.
I mean, although we know when you're
married, women love compliments on their
shoes, on their clothing, on their
makeup, on their glasses.
But, the question is can a bachelor
compliment a woman on a date?
On her dress. This is a because it's
it's it's a it's a very kind meter to
do.
Um in general,
people the first response would be that
most probably is inappropriate.
But,
uh so actually it's a good moment.
That's just one example. But, mostly
is
don't try to impress.
Present yourself as you are.
To be honest, and other person will
decide if they like it or not.
Um one thing you can do um on the third
date, let's say, in a second. You can
send a message uh which is I have three
There are three ideas where you can get
into the car and you can say I have
three choices where to go where to go
now.
A, B, or C. Why don't you make the
choice? Tell her.
It's a good feeling. Wow, you gave me
the
you know, the choice.
Um
address comfort level.
In the car, is the temperature good? Is
the air conditioner too high? Too low?
That creates, you know, you're you're in
a gentle way
hitting emotions.
You sit down, you come to the hotel, you
know, the guy. You sit the car, okay,
you sit down. Why don't you check in
with her? Is it okay to sit here? Would
you like to sit in another in another
corner? You know, this is things that
women are sensitive to. And it's it's
important. You don't want to put her
immediately into stress because if
you're sitting in a woman is sitting in
an uncomfortable seat because she thinks
other people are looking at her or
something, the whole mood is already
changed and and you don't understand
what happened to the date. Why is she in
such a mood?
Well, you could have asked and said is
this comfortable, you know,
or not, which is which is beautiful.
Um, you know, that's that's kind of way
and again, you have to be a leader, lead
the conversation, lead don't say it's up
to you, it's up to you, it's up to you.
Some people are are so caring that they
they become like overbearing caring. Are
you okay? Like like a puppy, like like
like like like you become like a mother.
You know, you're a man, you're an
elegant, caring person. Don't don't
overbear.
be a puppy, but you don't have to be a
German Shepherd.
You don't have to be a shursh unaga
hisapoter.
Kenzeina shur tam.
Correct. You want to
Why the nikes? Yeah, back to the
emotional issue. You want to help uh the
woman be less nervous.
If you're not
Before I went on a date, my older sister
told me,
she says, "Remember,
the responsibility of starting a
conversation is on the man." Called
She said, "Sometimes the girl you're
dating, it was a very refined woman, the
woman I married. She said, she's not
going to want to start the conversation.
So, there's going to be an awkward
silence. You have to start the
conversation." Very good.
Probably with some girls it's not that
way, you know, they
But it's important in other words, you
have to be the mashpia in the sense a
woman wants to be able to see your
leadership, your attentiveness, your
confidence, your strength,
you know, your ability to be there, to
be present, to take responsibility, to
take initiative. Right?
Right. I'm not arguing.
Like Suda says, what's mashpia and
mekabel?
Mashpia and mekabel. What's mashpia and
mekabel? It's not a regular mekabel,
right? Like Suda says that the choson is
a mashpia and the kallah is a mekabel.
So, you're you're a mekabel, right? You
It says in Suda that the madman of the
choson is dirchei choson. The man, the
zochor, gives the tipa, the seed of life
to the nikeiva. She doesn't only receive
it. After 9 months, she gives you a
living child. So, she takes what you
get, she takes what you give, and she
completely transforms it. So, an Iyam
Sias, from from a tip it becomes a
living a living child. Like it says in
the Torah, the earth takes a drop of
rain, right? It's also the tip. It's
brought in the Gias Kedish. And what
does the earth gives you back? The earth
gives you back vegetables and legumes
and fruits and grain. Bonim Chadashim
Bolakim. So, you be mashpia and don't
worry, she'll take what you
she'll take what you give and she'll uh
So, what she makes from them shaina
mesik. Exactly. You'll
You'll talk for 1 minute, she'll talk
for 9 10 minutes, no problem.
But uh what I wanted to say also, you're
talking about kind of emotional you
know,
if you see she's nervous, so you're
nervous, clean the air. You know, say,
"I can tell you're nervous or you know,
I'm also nervous. We're in We're nervous
together here."
You know,
you just put it there. It's always good
to acknowledge awkwardness, to say we're
awkward. We're human, we're awkward.
You know, I'm feeling so nervous sitting
with Rabbi Jacobson for the first time
on a public Zoom.
Uh with a world-class speaker and
Maggid in Sherman Oaks. You know, it's
So, I'm very happy when you talk more
and I talk less. Nishke Maggid in
Sherman Oaks? Rabbi Rashi for Sherman
Oaks, but okay. Assistant Rabbi.
Got to give credit.
Assistant Rabbi Rashi.
The bottom line the bottom line is when
we acknowledge our awkwardness, it's
it's it's gishmak. And you know what?
It's the beauty of an airlich Yid that
there is there is a natural busha by
shanim rachmanim gam l'chassadim that we
are shy. It's good. It's not It's not a
It's not a bad thing.
You know, it's when there's no
boundaries, nobody is shy, you know?
When you're ready at the age 13, you
know everything and yeah, there's no
shyness, but the fact that there's
shyness, it means that there's an
electricity. There's hash mala, there's
something happening, there's something
It's intense, it's serious, it's a
serious energy. So, it's good that
there's a little a little awkwardness.
It means you're both human, you're both
sensitive, you're both are aware
that something deep is happening.
There's a great potential for great
things to happen, you know. Right.
I think showing care, showing care could
mean
I didn't know
I was asked this question. I'm not 100%
sure if you have any questions for your
partner.
This season rabbi You know, you're
showing care. Someone wants to stop to
go to the bathroom and
she can give you you can offer to hold
her coat. If she's holding a thing
You know, it's not us to hand each other
things or to hold something for each
other. That's a way to show care. It's
just
a technicality.
Um
Women that are not just out of seminary
and they're already a little bit older,
I don't think appreciate which camp did
you go to and what job did you do with
learning teacher and how do you do? You
know what I mean? Just out of seminary,
the people are still excited to share
their high school years. But if someone
is a little bit older
it may come across a little nerdy.
So, just say you know But not when
When I was when I was dating with my
wife
so, on the third date it was a little
quiet.
I know people are surprised that I was
quiet. Well, his mom was his mom was
mom, I shut my mouth. Especially in the
presence of people who are smarter than
me.
So, it was quiet. I tell uh
it was then the young woman I was
dating, I say you know that somebody
told me a joke
that this guy back he came to the
Yeshiva and he said, "I never spoke to a
girl. What do you do by the dates?"
So, the Yeshiva said, "The first date,
you talk about food. You talk about
family.
The second date, you talk about food.
And the third date, you talk about
philosophy."
So, he goes out on the first date. For 2
hours, he's quiet cuz he never spoke to
a girl. After 2 hours, he says
"Do you have a brother?"
She says, no. Okay.
The date is over. The second date, he's
quiet for 2 hours and then he says,
Do you like spaghetti?
She says no. The date is over. He spoke
about food. The third date is
philosophy. So, he turns to her after 2
hours he says, "If you would have had a
brother,
do you think he would have liked
spaghetti?"
This is what I tell the girl I was
dating. So, she responds to me. I
remember we were walking in Manhattan
and she says, "You missed the end of the
story." I said, "What's the end of the
story?" She says, "The end of the story
is they got engaged."
And she got engaged to me also. I got
engaged to her.
When I was a bochur, remember you may
remember there was a story that was
circulating
about a very, very chassidishe bochur
who of course never
spoke to uh, you know, the other gender
outside of family.
And
he went on a date.
And it was too awkward for him. So, he
wasn't talking.
And she tried, "Vos machst du? How are
you? Where were you for the summer?
Where you going for the summer?
What are your hobbies? You want to go
on, you know,
nothing." Er hat nisht. He was He was
like
uh, shell-shocked.
So, finally she turns to him and she
says, "Efshar vilst du epes zogn a vort
vos der Rebbe hot gezogt beim
farbrengen?" Maybe say something that
the Rebbe said at the farbrengen. And he
looks at her and he says, "Der geyst
noch areynshleppen dem Rebben in der?"
It's a true story.
Huh? It's a true story. Yeah, and they
got engaged.
Like my wife said, "Der geyst ihn
onshleppen der Rebben into it?"
So, uh
While while while we have A woman once
told me she married one of the older
chabad chassidim and this is in the 50s
they went on shlichus.
Been on shlichus for six decades
and uh he was very uncomfortable on the
date. They went on a train, they went on
a subway.
So, she points to she tells me she told
it to me. She's already on the other
memus. She says, "I told him
hechsher mitzvah is aicha mitzvah.
Hechsher mitzvah is also a mitzvah.
Don't get so don't get uh
don't get so nervous ball. My sister
told me this is back in '79 that my
brother-in-law took her on the first
date to Kennedy Airport.
They went they walked around Imagine
going on a date, they walked around
Kennedy Airport in '90 '79, and she told
me she made a vow in her heart, I guess
a bleen eded a vow,
that if he ever does this again,
she will not look at him. She says, "Now
we're married with 11 children later."
Bli ayin hara. The bottom line is we're
saying all these cute anecdotes because
this is all part of the plan.
And this sometimes it's difficult,
especially when it ends and you have to
start all over again. But, don't allow
it to deter you because kacha darka shel
oilam, this is all part of our
our journey. And each date that doesn't
work out,
every no is one step closer to yes.
There's a great fundraiser in Lubavitch.
He's one of the best fundraisers.
And he once said that he doesn't mind
hearing no. You know why? Cuz one in 20
people says yes, and 19 say no. So,
every no is closer to the one who's
going to say yes.
Spiritually also it's that way. Whenever
you hear a no, it's doing something for
you. It's making you grow. It's making
you become aware. Don't see it as an
invitation for ye'ush, chas v'shalom,
and desperation. Like I heard from the
Rebbe once, ye'ush is shalom u'das. When
there's ye'ush, there's no das. If
there's das, there's no ye'ush.
Kim'nason sh'mo l'kechem eschem l'das.
Every nisayon in life, every
disappointment in life is there to
create das, to create more depth, more
authenticity, more perception, more
awareness. It brings you closer to the
person you're supposed to become in this
world. So, it's an incredible
opportunity. It may be difficult.
Menashe Sham Alacha. Menashe is a
nisayon and also it lifts you up. You
know, when you're when you're
stretching,
in exercise, stretching is painful.
But, you stretch, you become bigger,
stronger, larger,
more fluid, you know, more more
flexible. Your body your rhythm flows in
a more seamless fashion. The same is
true emotionally, psychologically.
Somebody asks a question here,
"Should I go on a date with a checklist?
She's this, she's not this." So, it's a
good question, but generally speaking,
I would say that's not the point. Yes,
you want to figure out a lot of things
in a date. The point is to try to
experience the other person.
A date is not a time to analyze. You
know what you really want to try to
have? You want to just try to have a
good time,
a meaningful,
good, exciting, enjoyable
experience. And and and allow that to
happen.
If you're so tense, okay, that that's
also normal. You're human, but it's not
really about analyzing the other person,
cuz marriage is not about analysis.
Marriage is not about living in the
head. It's not a computer relationship.
Marriage is about the ability to
experience another person.
That the energies connect. That's why
the Rebbi told Reb Reb Levi Groner,
"Ich kann dir nicht helfen." Not because
I don't want to help you,
because it's neshama to neshama. So, you
want to just really be able to try to be
there with the other person, experience
the other person, empathize with other
person, not be rigid, and be curious, be
inquisitive.
You know, don't don't
don't put the person into a trap. Be
open, listen.
Be curious.
Be inquisitive. And also And if
something is triggering you
very badly at a date, like you're like
Be curious cuz that's good.
That's good.
The Rebbe used to say it's unbelievable.
Remember Remember the
Maybe you were there with the Rebbe. I
think my mother was from my base. The
difference of party and Sanhedrin.
That the person that denies God
completely and is apathetic
is much worse than the person who's
angry at Hashem.
The Rebbe said then, "Well, I lost
weight to mine." If you're getting angry
the difference of a show nagach
with an ace. Sometimes a person just
doesn't care. I don't even get angry at
you. If something is triggering you
it means oh, something hit the spot. So,
it's a good opportunity.
You know, on dating like You know, what
just happened? Did this girl remind you
of somebody in your house? Did she
remind you of your mother, of your
father, maybe of yourself? Did she
remind you of something that happened?
It's It's It's It's good. It's good to
be aware. Huh? Yeah, yeah. It sounds
good.
It's
another
Finish. Finish your point.
Yeah, yeah. Somebody asked a question I
would like you to address. How should
baal teshuvah, some of us are baal
teshuvah, Chabad baal teshuvah or other
baal teshuvah
how do we work past the rigid black and
white thinking that many of us developed
in order to become frum? We left our
parents, we left our environments, we
left our schools, and we had to learn.
This is what God wants. This is what he
doesn't want. This is X. This is Y. This
is no. This is yes. And sometimes we get
caught up in this. And how can we
emancipate ourselves from this cuz we
don't have that natural
organic support system growing up in
religious homes.
That's a good question.
Yes, it is. I believe it's one of the
reasons we see by the Rebbe
the Rebbe was not pro the baal teshuvah
dropping their previous life completely.
Yeah, never. Like the guy put away his
guitar and he didn't use it for 10
years. Yeah. The Rebbe was not for that.
Go back and finish your degree, use your
talents that you have from Hashem that
you already used, use it for avodas
Hashem. And that's most probably in the
same thing. Yes, maybe you have to take
a little break or develop black and
white.
But but now say 1 second, I also I my
social skills don't have to
didn't have to go dark.
Forget it.
You should be able to to bring it in. I
don't have any specific advice, but
perhaps people that are specific
mashpi'im in baal teshuvah yeshiva can
address that. That midas zayin normal.
Don't lose that.
say that in English? Could you say that
in English?
You got to be normal. Don't lose that
quality.
You got to come with a clean car, even
if you're black and white. The Rebbe
just wanted you to come on the date with
a clean car. You want to impress?
Women notice all the details by nature,
most women. They notice detail, they pay
attention to details. Make sure.
We also have to become aware of
something, and I'm saying this to all of
us, baalei teshuvah not baalei teshuvah.
Sometimes
our religious
uh
commitment
is fraught
and saturated with inner anxiety.
In other words, my obsession with
halacha and yiras shamayim doesn't have
to do with
a loving relationship with Hashem. It
has to do with the fact that I hate
myself, I hate people, I hate life, I'm
stressed out, I'm always overwhelmed.
And sometimes I suffer from various
anguishes, and halacha becomes the
outlet, and mussar becomes the outlet.
And it's very very important because
such a Judaism is very can be very very
toxic. As the Gamara says in Taanis and
Yuma Lo Zocheh Lenasos Lesam Hamoves,
the holiest thing, chas veshalom, could
become poison because it feeds something
that's very difficult inside of me. So
it's very important to be aware of this.
Somebody asks a question here. He says,
"I am a very anxious person. I suffer
from a lot of anxiety. I don't know how
to let go. I am always self-conscious.
I'm always thinking about what other
people think about me. When I do it on
dates, also, what am I supposed to do?"
The Mendel.
A bochur says he's full of anxiety. To
get out.
First of all, welcome to the club.
You're not You're not uh Is Nishke Ben
Yochai
Did ever said about the pinyon carved
that Ben Yochai from time to time and
that everyone came in Friday morning to
Yeshiva
and
the boys were up a whole night, so there
was only the pinyon learning, right? So,
that's what they used to say when I was
a bochur.
So, it was the Ben Yochai from time to
time and that The Ben Yochai has only
one child.
Yeah, but there's nothing wrong, by the
way, like middle-aged bochurim need to
start doing exercise
because otherwise you can get
sick and crazy.
Uh if you feel anxiety, learn some
relaxation skills.
Like natural ones, not yoga
with meditations, but simple things.
Talk to a
people that teach sports. Talk to people
that teach
speak speakers. There there there's
books out there, little books.
Uh things.
There's breathing exercises, body
position exercises.
Spend 5 minutes and think, "What am I
grateful for right now from the English
stuff?"
Baruch Hashem.
If there is something that you feel
that's not controllable, first of all,
bring it up on the date. If you're going
already, say, "You know, I I feel
anxious a lot. Do you notice that I'm
angry? That I'm
Sorry, that I'm anxious.
And maybe maybe over killing it. Maybe
you're not such a terrible anxiety.
You're just angry that that you're too
anxious. That could also be. But
bottom line, there's nothing wrong to
ask for help.
Momma said that.
There's also many many levels of
anxiety. In other words, there's anxiety
that maybe real.
But it's not it can be dealt with in
pretty simple ways. You know, maybe
exercise some exercise every day.
For an hour or a half an hour or some
intense exercise can really really be
helpful for you. The way you eat.
Sometimes maybe the anxiety is deeper.
And you may need more sophisticated
help. Maybe there's something stuck
inside your system. And that's fine.
Open yourself up. There's good people
out there and there's a lot of
a lot of healing available today. So
many so many different ways.
So really don't be vulnerable. You know,
be vulnerable and
you want to talk to people who are
experts in this field.
Somebody asks a question that Mendel
I want to go on another date. I liked
it. The girl says not nothing is
happening. She doesn't want to continue.
But I really want to continue. What What
am I supposed to do? Do I just say
forget it? Or do I try to convince her?
It's a practical question. I would say
very practical. If you could convince
her, of course convince her.
If this is something you feel there's
great potential there, of course do
whatever you got to do.
You know, maybe tell her give her give
let's try once more. If you feel of
course. If she says no, she says no.
That's her. That's her. You know, you
have to respect boundaries. You do what
you got to do and she'll do what she got
to do. Do and if you if you have that
ability to convince, you know, maybe you
could send a note or send something that
will stimulate her in an in an
interesting way. Abracadabra.
Somebody says, "I want to cut off the
dating. Can I do it by text?"
What do you say?
I If If you went out once or twice,
maybe three times, you could tell the
shadchan. But if you went out a lot of
times, I don't think it's respectful. I
don't think it's respectful. If you went
out six, seven, eight, especially nine,
10 times,
and you put in so many hours, and she
put in so many hours,
I don't think it's respectful to send a
text or a WhatsApp and say it's not
going to work out. I I I feel unless it
was a whole time in a very distanced
way.
But if you really got closer, and she
thought there's a lot of potential here,
and you for whatever reason feel it's
not appropriate, I think she and you
deserve
maybe a short conversation, but
Kibboy like half alte.
Yes.
Where you took it in, huh? You agree?
Absolutely agree. It's called respect.
What is the best respectful, sensitive
way?
Respectful, yeah. That long term the
other person. Yeah, remember she spent
two months with you, and she gave up
nights, and you gave up nights.
I can't just send a text it's over.
It's It's It's not covered habriyos,
even a regular person. Call shidduchin a
person
who you and she invested so much time
in. It's panim el panim. You sit down,
you go out, maybe for half an hour.
And you just say, you know, in a very
sensitive way.
I want to adjust. Huh? I I thought you
finished. Sorry, you didn't. Yeah, no,
just in a very sensitive way
to be able to say, you know, I really
feel that this is not going to work in
terms of marriage, and I just want to
tell you something. A boy asked A boy
turned to me and he says, "I can't stop
the dating cuz I have rachmanus on her.
She loves me, and she's going to cry for
six months."
So, I told him I told him I see somebody
asked a question here. So, I told him
maybe you have something to add. I said
you think this is called rachmanus? You
think rachmanus for her is that she
should marry somebody who's marrying her
because she's a rachmanus case?
That's called love? Don't you think she
deserves a guy who's crazy about her?
Don't you think she deserves a guy who
thinks she's the greatest woman in the
world? You're not having rachmanus on
her by turning her into a rachmanus
case.
The fact that you're not my shidduch
doesn't mean you're a bad person. The
fact that I'm not your shidduch doesn't
make you a bad person. A toaster oven is
a wonderful thing. We use it in our
house, but you don't use a toaster oven,
yeah, to make chicken soup. Not because
it's bad, because it's a toaster oven.
It's not made for chicken soup.
I have to forgive forgive my stupid
moshol. Every every Indian has every
person has his or her shlichus, and it's
not a bad thing. So, we have to remember
that. So, yes, it may be painful and
disappointing, but do it with
sensitivity, do it with respect.
I want to hear what you have to say.
Also, somebody asked a question. If she
ends it or I end it, do does the other
person deserve to hear the real reasons
why we ended it why ended it?
That's a very good question. B'chlal
even if you know it's not going to
continue, it's always good to stress the
other person's ma'alos. Make her feel
good about herself. Say, I enjoyed
speaking to you. You have excellent
qualities. By the way, even if you are
continuing, it's good to give feedback.
Someone says something about themselves,
say, I appreciate that quality.
It's very important to me or I enjoyed
the the
speaking to you or whatever it is. And
even if you end it, you can also tell
them that they're a special person, and
I'm sure whoever they'll find and marry
them will be
you know, they'll they'll be very lucky
to have them. Whatever it is. That's
just a
you know,
a respectful way. But, um
You definitely have to be careful to,
if if you're going to end it, to end it
in a very respectful way. Because the
person has to know the real reason.
It depends.
Um, if it can be if you can
say it in a respectful way,
and the other person can learn something
from it, and you feel they're capable
for it, then yes. If not,
um, the other person maybe can deserve
it in an indirect way.
A family member, a friend, why you felt
it wasn't. Because otherwise you may
leave a person in doubt, and that's not
good today. Self-doubt about themselves.
And you might think the person will be
feeling down, that oh, I didn't, you
know,
he thinks bad about me. I'm not
good-looking.
Why should you make a person go away
with such with such status? You have to
It's is up with a good shatzan to figure
out what's the best way to give the
message. Absolutely.
I want to just conclude one more detail.
just say I I Can I just add something to
that?
You know, if if if you respect the other
person, and you spent a lot of time with
them, I'm thinking about myself. I would
appreciate to work on myself. If you
know that this is a girl, or this is a
boy, who's really wants to work on
themselves,
it's not a bad thing to tell somebody,
or give a message in a very kind and
respectful way.
That maybe I could learn from it. Again,
I'm not talking about shalom to
embarrass or humiliate or demonize,
but either directly or indirectly, if
it's done in a right way, it's an
opportunity for growth.
And I think when we hear something about
ourselves that can help us grow, it's a
gift. So, don't run away from it
necessarily.
in that way, for sure.
If if she said no,
beg for the reason. Ask for the
feedback. You'll grow from it. The more
you will get, the more you learn about
yourself. I was saying the other way
around, if you are ending it,
is it fair to tell her the full truth?
Right.
careful. Do it in the most sensitive
way. Always in a sense Always in a
sensitive respectful way, but if you
can, it's good. You know, don't don't
treat somebody like as though they're a
child that can't hear anything. You
know, if you're talking about a mature
person
I did not but we grow We don't grow from
compliments.
We We
We grow from people who challenge us,
people who stimulate us, you know,
people who point out things to us that
we're uncomfortable with. But being in
my comfort zone is not going to help me.
It's nice, but it's not going to help
me. I forgot who said who's the marker
for this right. A good friend accepts
you the way you are. A great friend
tries to make you better.
You wanted to add one more detail.
No, what I wanted to add about people
asked before and it addresses to a
question, how can I find out so much
about a person when we have so so few
dates? We don't date for 6 months or a
year. It's not so acceptable. So, how do
I How can I get all the qualities of a
person that you mentioned in such a
short time?
You have to think about what to talk
about. Talk about family. Talk about
their relationships with their parents.
It's a little vulnerable, but if you're
comfortable to get there, second, third,
fourth, who they look up to,
who who are their friends, what they
like in their friends, who which
rabbis or teachers they respect, what's
their relationship, who are they closer
to, who do they like spending time more
with other siblings and why.
These are These are conversations where
you can
get a taste of what the person
appreciates and what they're like and
what they like doing and if they're
shallow or deeper. Someone asked the
question, do we both have to be on the
same intelligence level?
No.
Doesn't have to be that.
I mean, it can't be completely because
uh you know, then you If If If If you
don't feel like you're not living in the
schedule where you're out all day
from morning to night, from Sunday to
Shabbos making a and only together
Shabbos is spending time together. So,
there got to be some type of, you know,
compatibility. But, if you're a
brilliant guy, you don't have to marry a
brilliant genius. Love that.
Listen, we're going to take a break now
and we're going to resume this next
Wednesday, base of Hashem, 9:45 p.m.
There's still around
it looks like 30 questions that we
didn't address. More.
More? Okay. I see 30, but I guess yeah,
I see there's much Oh, wow. Okay, 69
questions that we didn't address. Sorry.
So, it's amazing questions. Somebody
says, "I'm watching websites that I
don't want to say what type of websites
they are. Can I still date? I have a
serious problem."
How how a person says,
"How do I balance my seichel and my
middos?" Another person says, "I don't
know if I'm a chassidishe bochur if I'm
not a chassidishe bochur. I don't know
if I'm completely frum. I'm not
completely frum. I'm a confused person.
Am I allowed to date? I don't know my
priorities." Another person says, "I'm
struggling with so many things in my own
family. Can I date?"
Hey, these are all These are all
incredible incredible questions. We're
copying and pasting these questions so
that me and Rabbi Lipsker can address
them. And there's another 70 questions I
see that came in.
So, everybody is invited. Please share
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in 1 week with myself and Reb Mendel,
base of Hashem, bli neder. In the
meantime, we wish you all
an incredible week and tremendous
hatslacha with simcha
and menuchas hanefesh and menuchas
haguf.
Amen. Thank you very much. And always an
extra capital till then for a friend
will help us as well.
And emunah and bitachon and connecting
to the Hashem, Hashem will help everyone
find a shidduch. There was once an alter
bachur that told the rebbe bachur bracha
of krias Yam Suf.
So the rebbe said, "Ke krias Yam Suf."
It's not krias Yam Suf. It's not
The Hashem will make it happen
easily and swiftly for everyone who
needs.
B'simcha u'vetuv levav.
Thank you again. Amen. Amen.
So like k'krias Yam Suf for everyone.
Amen.