Pesachim 11a - Finding the Patterns of Reb Yehuda Vs. the Sages

the yeshiva dotnet your ala fun with Aleph we're middle of the of the new Sookie let me give a summation a very brief summation so you'll be able to help MIT and let's just recall what we learned yesterday the Mishna on that feud on the base shared with us the McCoy kiss between of you hood and the hakama review this says that because comets has a deadline what's the deadline the deadline is the sixth hour if you didn't do boudicca's comets in the sixth hour Erev Pesach which means 11 a.m. you have to duplicate comes the night before it's not you knew it in the morning if not you do it at 11 o'clock in the beginning of the sixth hour whenever there be any other six hours but if you did not that's it you know Sylvain everybody there's normally the COS comments for you the Cohanim said no because comets continues because comets continues till the night and because comets according to toys versus interpretation continues throughout the whole Pacer and because comets continues even after Pesach so you shouldn't come to eat the Comets that you're now letting eat what's this virus amyloid cos between mu then there's a common so the Gemara explain Robbie hood is afraid that if you go into a lot of people to dupe Dicker's come it's Arif paces in the afternoon when you're already now let eat comets the person may find comet because that's what he's trying to do and inadvertently he's going to put it in his mouth because he's used to eating it and he's going to transgress the prohibition of eating matzah which begins Erev Pesach smithing dick has come it's at night doesn't bother me I don't care if you eat the comments then you're a lot eat comments biggest comments in the morn he doesn't bother me I don't care if you eat the comments then your lad eat comets even thicker scum is the beginning of the sixth hour it's not an issue minute IRA so the of them are saying okay you'll get rid of the comets but after the sixth hour it's an issue man I tried it to eat comments from Arif face of midday and thus I'm afraid that because how much will cause a Mitchell it will cause you to violate an issue man I'm tired of eating comments that's what you who does the common were not afraid I call him saying you're doing because comets we're not afraid that my mistake you're going to come here remember we're not talking about somebody who willingly wants to eat come it's ever face in the afternoon because that person doesn't need the whole game or you can go to the store and buy pizza and eat it there if pay so her face is what I'm talking about that person we're talking about a person who wants to do the right thing but people make mistakes and for that person of you they said you shouldn't do boudicca's comets after the deadline so the Gemara asks the big question and that's the focus of this so again that it seems like ruby hood is being inconsistent because when it came to Kadosh when it came to the new group the new crop that grew during the season and you now let me eat it till after the carbon timer which is test scientists and when they used to bring the carbon armor right and the Mishnah tells us that the streets of yerushalayim were filled with flour from the new crop and filled with oven-roasted grain from the new crop when right when the Eimer was Nikolov you can already find in the stores fresh flour which means they harvested it before the carbon diamond so that mayor said I could come whenever her pleased with this custom whatever Yunus says they were pleased it means review it is not afraid that when people would harvest their grain and prepare it to become flour they would eat it because if yes the beauty should say it shall I become like it mayor so don't we have your clear contradiction between w-who discovery this perspective because if remuda was really afraid like bahamut's that you're gonna be doing something good fine but by mistake you're gonna come to eat something which is prohibited again inadvertently by showing it like my comments here should be exactly the same issue I'm harvesting grain and in the process I may eat a kernel I'm a munch on the grain and I'm now louder because it's called rush it's before the carbon oiler and you had to be who this says it was fine that I come home said it's fine its production curcumin so came a robber and he said it's don't compare it's a very simple answer you didn't harvest it with a sickle they only allow to you to harvest it with your hand with a deviation so there's a real reminder to telling you this is this is different you're not using a sickly much using your hand which is a big tears it's much harder than using a sickle so this reminds you that you're now letting eat it we're by how much you don't have that on the so they asked them what about that's when your harvest but then there is grinding there is sifting here it's not anymore that you're using you you're not you use it's not you're not using a sickle so he said over here there was also a deviation right you didn't use a watermill you used a hand mill you didn't use the the you didn't use deceive and it's in its its usual fashion you turned over this sieve you turned over this sifter then uh uh you know see you turned it over you did it on the backside of it so you still have the holes but these deviations remind you so mainly you can't compare Kadosh to comets that's what the Camerons comes the Gemara right there and says it doesn't make sense the answer is still not good because we have another mission er that says that there were certain fields where you were a lad a harvest with a sickle remember all the fields from which you would not bring a carbon I'm er all those fields you allowed a harvest with a sickle before the carbon diamond but you now let heat it over here there's no she no II and still w and this says it was brought since uncommon that means he's not afraid forget about the deviation so we still have an inconsistency this was a bias next question on Robin and therefore I buy introduced a new answer and that is you can't compare others to comets others people are usually detached from meaning they're used to the concept that Kaddish is prohibited because for much of the year it's prohibited until there's not innocent comets is something that most of the year is permissible a few hours before your because comments you we eat in comments so therefore we're afraid that a person is gonna eat comments why cuz it's something you're so used to your custom you see a cookie you see a bagel you see a slice of pizza you see your stick Alcala you see a piece of bread or laughi you eat it a whole year and that's the reason why my comments were concerned so we are concerned if there's a reason to be concerned because comets is something you're so used to eating so the mistake is more easy more common dishes model minute that was abayas ants came rather and said you're still missing a piece you're focusing on their bu Hooda you're not focusing on the other side on the home also pose a problem in our mission er they tell you I'm not afraid you're gonna eat comments you could do particular comments throughout Pacer you could do particular scum it's Aerith basic on the afternoon I'm not afraid you're gonna eat comments but my father's rep mayor and we assume that they have some of arguing with rebuilding our mission included mayor because the mayor was the main disputant of remedy Hooda this is an important order and therefore if mayor and my father says that it was shall I be rocks uncle common meaning they were afraid that when you're harvesting you're harvesting your grain you're going to come and eat it that means they are afraid of this issue and it's a caustic a macabre climate because harshest Buddle mean a godless you detached from and still they say you're not letting harvest it and if you do it they're coming we're not please comments is light bottom in a and they still say that you're a ladder doop knickers comments and we're not afraid you're going to eat it so robert says you never dealt with this you explain to me review who this position and you make peace between the two sources but you didn't explain it a mayor's position and that's why rob introduces a new very powerful smart and that is the command feel that to accuse and to suspect and to be afraid that somebody is going to eat the helmet that they find but because comments is Luna is absurd it's absolute absurd why cuz Cole at smile in my cars in a loveless surfer make a common a the whole point of comments is watts just destroy the comments they get rid of the comments your whole focus is that comments is not good what are you doing you're doing meticulous comments why are you doing because comments I want to find it and get rid of it burn it exterminator destroy it who acts me the whole purpose the whole midsi's of what you're doing is fighting the comments so I'm not afraid that while you're doing that process you're gonna do something which is the exact opposite which is taking in the commets digesting the Komets consuming eating and absorbing the comments by the kadosh your whole purpose is not to destroy the father's you're trying to make flour you want to sell the flower you want people to eat it you don't want to eat it today because it's before the carbonara but you want them to eat it in the right time your purpose is not to get rid of it so Mela by mistake when you're handling with so much food you know you don't realize we always know when you're handling with food right you take a bite but here I'm also handling with food but what am i handling with food I wasn't dealing with the whole purpose is to get rid of the food to be inside of the Mahler have some say I'm sorry there's no logical reason to suspect that her coming should suspect that you're gonna eat it and therefore they did not they were not my battle the fume of Dicker's comments just because the time of eating that the prohibition for eating has arrived therefore you could do because calm it's a whole area of pacer and you could do because come it's a whole pacer not only you could you have to write you ask you one of they mentioned Cara's the answers because Erev Pesach in the afternoon there's no it's a chorus this sir chorus only begins at night but it'll be hood that says that even Erev Pesach in the afternoon you can do with the COS comments that means this issue is not only chorus this issue is the very prohibition of eating comets already stops them from st. Nicholas comets chorus only begins at night the seven days of pacer okay after pace if there's no chorus and there's no love after pace that the only reason is to level our Claudia during pace Sofia in a cannot man that's the finish that even though it's an issue chorus even though it's an Easter chorus that I told you that these are my collectors of the Constituent in Rashi here - she touches that are Hawaiian means from six hours till the night and manavas Rashi says like noiseless then after ham Ayad that Metallica my entire mine means in the sixth hour and that you have to be by the comments but I come by in the middle of Pesach so the sub surfaces that ones this Savarin the gomorrah's Mahadeshwara forever that you're not gonna come to eat comets so then even as she would say that you could say that the hakama all the canoe bleeker's come it's the middle of a Sun because this is such a strong fire that you're not gonna eat it that even for an instant carrots were not afraid in other words initially the way - she ties the mission and we thought that the cumin will only allow you to do because comets Erev Pesach in the afternoon because it's no Easter chorus now that even if you come to eat it it's not gonna be in history cars it's gonna be in this surah from you there still says no but come say yeah but loop oil mama is rationing an other place in my circus but not because that's by the way that Walkinshaw tomorrow I'll control tomorrow is like the of Thai service and the of rashly elsewhere there you have to do because come it's the whole pace on and we're not afraid that you're gonna come in it why even though it's an Easter chorus you allowing a person to come face to face with comets you'd going to that you're telling him go look for comets hopefully you'll find and then get rid of it isn't that mom is feeding yeah you give me you're putting the shark into his hand you're putting the comets into his hand and the answer is thus far but since the whole but see is the whole reason you're doing it is to is to burn it so we're not afraid you're going to eat it even though if you eat it it's a curse we're W hood there is so afraid that even if there's no car is he doesn't let you do it well after Hamad it's not an easter chorus but laughter I'm ready have to do bleeker's come it's because the comments that stayed in your house how much trouble a peso has no everybody holds accorded toys with everybody else Shama Yami lock like you're asking an interesting question sorry the toys were sent the whole reason of Dickens comments is you may come to eat it so one of the common saying you're not gonna come to eat it the whole because comets is cuz you may come to eat it there's a difference you may call it a good question you may come to eat it as the shot if they wouldn't if they wouldn't be predict as comets yeah and there's a cookie on my counter I did bit political question one day how am ia pacer I come down it's happened I've didn't happen to me but it happened to people you come down yeah and and there's a cookie and you don't even think and you eat it that's the shot that we're all worried about that's why they did it because comments like a peeler hear the voices during the kiss how much you're gonna eat it when you find that a comets now you're gonna eat it now you're trying to burn a day they say not stop come it's the middle of pace and of course you're gonna come in that's why the whole pecan of Nicolas comers was established with eat Isis Shama yummy luckily everybody holds that you understand so that's why they said you should do discover they didn't want comets in your house because you may come to eat it when are you gonna come to eat it any day of the seven days of pace that's my mistake you're gonna come in why because you you seen it come it's a whole year here we're talking about one that could you're gonna eat it while you do it because comets when you find it under the couch you're gonna take hitting him and gonna take it into your mouth that's the rush this that I come to say sorry at this moment were not conscious that he's going to eat it why because why is he looking for the bagel he's looking for the bagel to destroy it after they cackled and that's why I suggested yesterday that there be hood asthma Hollis could be connected with his mahalik throughout the shafts about Dover Shaina miss Calvin etc could be it's a some type of beer okay that's such a strong Samara that if you're just conscious of what you're doing you're not gonna come eat it we're in middle of Payson I'm afraid your little absent-minded you come downstairs you see a you're used to for breakfast your little bread and butter you're forgetting you in it if there wouldn't be political comments that's why they made the regular Boudicca the regular because comets you do a middle of peso here interesting question have to pay something then series according to most posting in the middle of pay sake make abraca before because how much you conserve I know I'll be your comets yeah you make a broker after patient you don't make a bra you make a broker you can't do bitl middle of faces anymore the Cohanim yeah that's one reason because they were afraid you're gonna come to eat it there's another reason the round gave us in the beginning of my second my sector we're afraid that the bittle was not believed Shalom right right right so then you have to yeah of course and if a person didn't do bit though for whatever reason then they have to do bedico minatoya because that comments in there how they may have comments in their house yeah yeah right right right right exactly the same procedure you will do a middle of pay so yeah there is the question what if you find comments a middle of young two verses column Ayad right we spoke do you burn it don't you burn it on top of do you just put a Kayleigh on it etc if you did bitl if you didn't do bit one right if it's a sincere bit though exactly yeah that's what toys for sound off base that we're afraid he's gonna come to eat it even if he was my vassal it and therefore you always have to get rid of the comments right another bedico exactly another Padilla dog the Gemara fighter yes yeah excellent question of course because you the first harvest remember to a tube hook and one parsec said that the first caught has to go to the Cayenne for the first car has to go to the carbon another passage that you should cut cut your harvest so we reconcile the two that if it's a field will you bring the carbon armor from lathela over there now let it cut anything before so the only way you would be a lot of cut it is if you do it with Hashimi which is not called serie so you have to use your hand in those fields in fields where you don't bring a carbon armor from because they don't produce such a good grain right which are three types of fields fields that are fertilized fields in the valleys and fields that need to be irrigated by hand it's knowing that the grain over there is not of the best choice and hence you don't bring a carbon armor from there like a pillar so therefore in those cases over there you can harvest the grain with a sickle but or other fields where you could bring the carbon I'm her from you cannot harvest it with a sickle till they bring the carbon I'm that's what we explained from Russian same thing it has to be with her she know you saying Lloyd I buy you that cutters bubbleman they may be the other things don't have to be with the deviation okay that's interesting that's possible yeah that's possible yeah because it's not the case Syria you're saying the series to be that the deviation was a trader a student but you're saying like the mask on that scene and our card they don't have to be with the deviation good order a good order something about a fight ashion my around sixteen lines from the tabular format olive you see the line starts MacArthur the loveless served for a medical call Hillman a so we had basically two possible answers to reconcile review Hooda the answer of robber which was refuted that it's because of deviations that was the feuded and the answer of a value which was accepted that cutters bubbleman a comets lloyd bourdelle mean a right how does you detach from comets you now detach from that's the one answer that was maintained cuz the first answer about she knew him were was refuted and then we had one answer from Robert to reconcile the two red mayors the to her comments right that comets you were not afraid of because you're trying to burn it and therefore we're not afraid that now you're gonna come eat comes the Gemara now and introduces a third perspective and this is sort of a she we had robber we had a buyer we had the robber and now we have her Ashley coming in to the conversation generations later but still coming into the conversation and I'm Ashley says it'll be hood that reviewed the Latasha he's going to give his own answer for the contradictions between the two w hoodies and his answer is what you would call a Bala batis answer a very very Paulo bata answer that really is like very nice and a very simple answer and his answer so simple he's like in order to be afraid that somebody's gonna eat it it has to be edible what was the last time you saw people eat flour right ah okay so in other words comets is edible you're being by the Comets you find a cookie it's edible you may put it in your mouth but flour what are you afraid he's stiff flower great what's the problem flower you don't eat soda bashyam RDW that remuda like gosh the views of rebel you who they don't pose a contradiction because chemic the colita nom the Mishna says two things Hema and Kali in other words the Mishnah mentions flower Kemah and Kali is oven roasted grain you take the grain the stalks of grain and you put it into the oven and you roast it sober mela these things grab a she says are not edible the way they are and therefore I'm not afraid that a person dealing with it and holding it and preparing it is going to eat it and that's right abuser does not make this Zeta come back of the Kali - now yes Rashi says come out of a Kali - nam the ain't a Lulu Yin lathela now there's a little question here because chemically understand right Kamath flower people don't need call me however clothes were something that it seems from different places in Shas that it was actually a treat you would take grain and roast it was actually like a snack it was called a snack they served it at weddings remembering to verse right mrs. Silver's right they would distribute the cloris ah it was all time popcorn potato chips they didn't have all these unhealthy snacks that we have today they used to serve healthy snacks so therefore Claudius was something edible so what is it about she mean so the toaster Satine as a result of this changes the gears and he says its not kamek macaulay it's chemically it's the chemical that's made of colleague but he doesn't have a choice because if matter of Ashley's answer doesn't make sense others I saw answer that I saw noise were harder there's two types of Claudius because Rashi is going to scam a clerk Ollie so you have to give some answer so I saw in the Burien in the mass if the Gemara he brings from one of the acronym but there's two types of clothes and that is there's a safer called inrush marsh beer so the rosemary says that there were two types of Claudia's the requires that they would make they would fry them in a they were very edible people used to like them here was Claudia's that were dried up in the hot vapor of the oven and the way they were they would be maintained they would be preserved with the way they were they were unedible and therefore the clothes are unedible sera sera she says it's a very simple answer don't confuse us there's a reason there's nothing to be hoisted because you can't eat it and that's why I'm not afraid you're going to eat it you don't need flour and you don't need this type of burnt oven roasted grain roasted in the oven suck the Gemara a very interesting expression they have a few places in jars very rare harder Dabashi Medusa he what trabocchi just said is fiction it's fiction Medusa means it's not true it's fiction why is it fiction at Tina's Macaulay Varela the answer works once the tour becomes Kali once it becomes roasted to the point that it's inedible then it wakes sense but maker at Kali but from the beginning of the harvest when you're harvesting your grain you come across kernels that you could munch on you come across parts of the grain that you could munch on people do it so you still have a problem because at this point it's still soft and it's edible Michel emember what are you going to say why doesn't have you who the prohibit handling with the grain at that time may look once it becomes flour once it's grinded into flour and once it becomes roasted and it's an edible I understand but it doesn't make sense till then but he came if you're gonna answer me I'll take it off you're gonna go back to the original answer that since you harvest it with your hand and not through a sickle could did Abba like your Abba said so now I'm gonna go back to the question that we already asked then that works if you talk of cutting it with your hand not with a sickle but Alec ocean-based are sluggish about mahkum we said that the grain that grows in the fields that are irrigated by hand and in the fields that grow in valleys the grain fields and valleys over they allow to cut with a sickle without a shilling who Kim negative you then we explain that that missioner follows of you the mieka LeMay might what could you say why doesn't have you heard they prohibit harvesting certain grains before the carbonara with a sickle when there's no shin it is no deviation and it is edible and you could compete just like he's afraid by summit sifri boshy was correct everybody was correct that correctness can only happen at a later stage when it's not edible anymore but it doesn't justify the earliest stages and that's why Ella Dabashi but do see and that's why we maintain what we said that the answer of ashley is fiction and thus we go back to the answer of abaya that review hooda does not make a decree against prohibited foods only when we're accustomed to eat in a whole year and therefore by second nature I'm going to eat it when I find it we're huh - where people separate from it much of the year because it's always prohibited it's not always pretty but it's prohibited till you die till tears I in this and when you bring the carbon diamond so it's ingrained in people that this is forbidden foods even though at some point it becomes permissible we're not afraid that a person is going to eat it Juno's that curtisha's Asura Jew doesn't know the Comets is officer it's only us it's only us are seven days of pacer not any other seven days a pace of + afternoon er Erev Pesach so we rejected rib a she's a she's answer boshy well robbers answer was also rejected as I explained yesterday in our in our post sheer conversation that the whole point of the Gomorrah is everything was recorded the half a minute the mask on the shittest everything was recorded the Sunnah bashes this is hibachis shitta NEBOSH she may have even had an answer to his question the Gomorrah ultimately rejects it and says Medusa Medusa flag the Gomorrah okay so we're back we maintained so our buyer came out triumphant ha - badoom in a comet's live on Domini I rather came out triumphant I buy you explain them you would rather explain to her common and we seem to be good everything is consistent we made peace we have now a consistency we know the view of review de we know the view of the common law ADA everything is good comes the Gemara and says not yet the Khalifa the LIBOR domain name ego zero Beulah dumb so basically you're now giving me the premise that wherever people are not detached from something Rebbe hood is going to make eggs area like my comments but since people are used to eating comets tribute is going to say I'm afraid that if you let people handle it in a permissible way they may handle it in a non permissible way that's the point because they may put it into their mouth is that the truth but now we have a mission in my second Shabbos very interesting case you have a candelabra remember we used to like we like Shabbos candles Friday evening this is a mitzvah of the committee very sorry for him and the reason was since usually people can eat their meal before dark and there's no Mitzvah to eat Shabbos is a mitzvah to have a meal and remember before Thomas Edison the house was pitch dark so you're sitting right at Shabbos meal and it's pitch dark coming said you should light candles for the eunuchs are best for the pleasure for Shalom buyers for peace in the home a good atmosphere should be a nice meal people shouldn't shrimp in the house like our soul mates and the evidence of the problem is you have a lamp and the Kayle for the oil is very very small so you know it's only gonna last a half an hour maybe an hour maybe an hour and a band you want to sit when ice moves you want to learn you want to bring you on those mirrors you want to do on all UNIX Travis whatever it is but this is your manner right so what do you do so this is the description that you want to do and if you who the rejects it but I'm just explaining why a person would want to do it like Eureka Eve Adam should I fed it shall Bates a person shouldn't perfection and make a hole in ash why Ferris in Excel traditional Bates a means the word Troy Faris is like the word Schaffer it means a pipe a hollow channel is called the SH Y Ferris that's why a chauffeur is called a chauffeur cuz it's hollow inside its hollows of the voice could travel through that's what my Ferris means a hollow tube X shell once you take out the yoke it's a hollow tube so to speak that's why it's called this very ferrous even there's no matter an eggshell you shouldn't make a hole in the eggshell via Malena chemin and then you make a little tiny hole you fill the eggshell with oil via tanana bit sad hangnail and you place it above your lamp where you have a little oil and a candle burning but the lamp is very small and this way throughout Friday night drips drops of oil flow from the eggshell into the lamp and they fuel the flame and you did this before Shabbos so it's very very good but still a minute FS because you wanted the oil and the eggshell should flow should drip drop after drop after drop your now let it do this why aren't you allowed to do this what's the big deal what's the problem the problem is as follows people would sit at the table and oil was a very very common food you need a little oil there's a beautiful eggshell here with a lot of oil so it's very natural yeah you take a little oil you want to put it on your bread you're gonna take it from the eggshell that would be forbidden on Shabbos why would it be forbidden on campus because since this excel was designated to fuel the candle so therefore taking oil from it would be hastening the X hastening the the extinguishing of the flames that would be for it would be prohibited Rashi says call nation burger Maura hi new hawk a lien a doesn't mean the fire it means the Kayleigh the lamp Kayla crucial in in Frenchmen artifice tipping dark eyes sharp salami varus it's gonna it's gonna flow little drops and the gomorrah says absolutely shall harris the finishes even if this little extra container of oil is not an eggshell it's Charis Charis is earthenware you know earthenware I don't know if you ever saw a real clay Harris pottery that's made of earth it's literally made of mud if a sort and it's baked it's baked in an oven it becomes very very disgusting it becomes very disgusting cause it's made of mud so once it's used for this you would think a person is not gonna take oil from it that's what ration says I feel you should cut it so social friends they make it sir I feel the hockey Oster Dilma are Silla my home na you may come to eat from it to eat to take this or what Matangi we learned how noise and shyamalan air high emission Ave Imus topically when a high emission Makabe if you add oil to the nail you're a blur you're liable because of igniting and if you take oil from it you're high of mishima job of this thing it's distinct extinguishing the flame so mailer to be hood that says you now let a do it may take oil oil oil la gila even though it's a Kaylee Mouse so there's a common say in a ladder VW hood a matter of you that says you're allowed whether it's Karis or whether it's an eggshell he's not harsh what do we see from here what does it really say I'm not afraid people are gonna take the oil now the question is are people used to eating boil a whole year yeah just like comets it's not - it's better than comments comments seven days you know let eat it or you'll there's never a problem with oil nonetheless ruby hood is not attributed says person knows he designated it for the for the lamp for the flame he's not gonna take it i by mistake you're sitting by the meal you're sitting by the meal you're gonna take a little oil just like your particular cover it's you're handling with something's you're gonna come in it may be you there's not consciousness has come in my flesh maybe who this Marty so what do we see that there's something that lloyd bourdelle min a and still W Hooda is not go sir that's the question the beauty is not going so mainly we have rare tremendous a tremendous student now why doesn't the Gamora as the same question on the hakama same question by comets they said you not gonna need it and here they said you are gonna need it the motor should ask the same question why you ask gonna be hood the because interview then you should say the other way perkele for the Lloyd Bothell min a that come in my not go sir that you see they are guys so rash she says a beautiful word that black she says gonna be hood the matted algarve this Shemin how culture didn't boy even though everybody eats Shemin like comets when a bomb that that Ivana like a luxury though Kim the time in the comments you should know absolute massage at a level of sorry for that have come and we already answered because once we said that comets nobody is gonna eat because you're trying to burn it I have no problem with a comment comments they're not worried about why because watching macaws on a level a surfer but Shannon you're not try to destroy the chemin the chemin is here to give you a beautiful flame you can eat it that's a sure so the cacao I'm actually very good because we understand why comets is unique that they're matching it because who acts with macaws an oval surfer chemin is not massage at all over the surface okay do you want it at the table you want the lamp to burn even more so we're afraid you're gonna come to you the question is reviewed review this has come it's not why because people are not detached from its colors they're detached but commas they're not detect here you have oil which people commonly and routinely eat and it's completely permissible and now the lesser Butte is not afraid so where we have here a problem with red yeah the two contradictions I just want to say the Russians have asks a question he says how can you compare comments you're holding in your hand so you may come to eat it the chemin you're not holding in your hand it's an extra but let's go to the answer for that is a person is sitting at the table all the food at the table you're not holding in your hand they give filter fishes in a plate the chicken is in a play the soup is in a plate the oil is a little elevated okay but it's in a plate it's an egg shallots and a clay Harris so you talk you're not holding it in yam but that's what food is food so yeah my comments you're holding it in your hands from Dicker's comments but nonetheless here also it's my Amish near you it's in front of you if she's sitting by the candle and the main place where they used to light the candles was we're on the table of eating because the point of the narrow Shabbos was that you should eat in a bright atmosphere so no the food was right this oh look later it's a fair comparison and a good question there are choice of struggles with this huh of course of course it's not hanging in the air so you have to put huh no no no no they're not touching the lamb they're touching the shui Faris no you somehow suspended the egg you could it's above the Nair yeah it's above the net it's dripping it's in it but doesn't really connect it to the maybe would be if you know oh you asking a better yes an interesting question if so if if the hum am i right they should answer every lamp with oil because you may take the oil and your high of mission macabre so the whole mayor shower should be awesome the answer of course is they were never afraid that you gonna take the oil that's fueling the flame because you see the flame there the flame is gonna stab you because you know when you're taking the oil your mama SH contributing to the extinguishing of the flame but here it's a separate so there there nobody makes Xavier because then the whole Shabbos would be forbidden right nobody says that here it's a completely separate entity which becomes connected to the to the mayor so you're now allowed ooh that's the word you now allow Dewar as she says it's kind of Michelle macabre because it was designated it was designated for that even though you're not really extinguishing the flame because it's a separate Macias right nonetheless for example there Rambam holes as a reason you're now going to take oil from the egg is not let's have my habits without Mucca Mucca sir this oil became wilkinson because since the oil became designated to fuel the candle its Lucas afresh Ava's it's like you're now let it move around on Shabbos raw flour because when Shabbos came in the raw flour is not something you can use on Shabbos this oil when Shaba look it's a means set aside when Shabbos comes in when Shabbos came in this oil was set aside for what for fueling the flame the mainland that naturally elements but then it could is the same once once something has a status when Shabbos comes in skis or comets like this all can't change it it's probably not gonna did a bond on you yeah I don't think he means but not Tyler I don't think that she means yes yes yes yes and if you does mati if it does much good as much yes right yes oil yes you don't have placed it doesn't have yes so they put this look at its Miska like a fiber today Steiner yes there's something drip here exactly a drips exactly exactly yeah so who would ever touch that it's like picking its angler off your ear you're judging reality of the time of the Gemara by 2019 in America when you're having your pantry six big bottles of oil it didn't work that way or can it have been diced I couldn't was doing I couldn't find the oil she let Shabbos candles with vinegar you know even in in wealthy cities every piece of food who's eating bread that mice leftover in the house you ever met somebody like that today they'll kill them before they eat that bread a mouse comes in with bread another mouse goes out with bread and you're interested to know if I can eat this bread or not yeah who would look at it yeah your wife would kill you your mother would kill you ee the other way around a funnel that led into the candle it was separate so therefore you could you could you could easily take it even the middle of the year you find a cookie under the refrigerator you're eating it you throw it in the garbage and there were cockroaches there were mice you're starving you eat yeah we would all see it not to compare but we saw in last generation Jews who suffered from hunger even those of us who had parents who have been through hunger in Russia or other places yeah I know my father by the table he couldn't understand that somebody leaves their plate empty when he was a kid in Russia he saw hundreds of bodies in the street died from hunger he couldn't understand that the plate is not this is not finished and that people just deal with food like irrelevant irrelevant I go into every scro Surrey store and there's more people today dying from obesity than from a starvation our problem today is not too little for the problem is too much with Baruch Hashem right but there was a mindset that's even in our generation culture came then when we'll know it was a whole different world you just always have to remember that nonetheless tribute is not Zog the Gemara awesome yes but this is not a psychology session so we're gonna stop we already did our therapy earlier in the morning we start off with therapy and then we go to Gomorrah the food is gonna kill you and for the Gomera hasa Marcus Schuyler hussam over there we're gonna use a similar safari we're gonna say how some answers which Oklahoma in the Shabbos middle bodily you're right but it's not a contradiction why Robbie Hooda felt that Shabbos occupies a special stringency in people's hearts and therefore people are separated from anything that's us are on Shabbos of course we're used to eating oil and using oil a whole year and it's not something that's buggle mean a bad simple but it's the sharpest that makes it bother me that's the point it's not the heft of the Shemin it's the day of Shabbos just like we explained before that Kaddish review this says you're a lot of harvest and we're not afraid you can eat it why because the thefts of Kaddish is something that people are like allergic to because they're used to all year every Jewish child growing up in a Jewish home knows others you don't need so we're not afraid then when you're harvested you're gonna eat it so even though chemin doesn't have that status cause chemin you do eat its culture it's fine but today the day of Shabbos dessert there's a conscientiousness there's a caution and the Jewish psyche to stay away from anything that could be austere on Shabbos that's the vort and the main leader be who this time is that when it comes to Shabbos when it comes to Shabbos it's middle buddy Lee and we're not afraid that the person is going to by mistake take the oil because there's like this special caution when it comes around to molasses of Shabbos we're by comets he is not afraid of this it's it's error phasic in the afternoon and a person is doing boudicca's comets and my mistake he may put the Comets into his mouth why because comets is something he's used to eating a whole year the homeless of Shabbos of course he means because of what Shabbos became in the Jewish world and also the penalties for Shabbos are so serious that don't exist when it comes to comets when somebody eats hummus on Pesach days if it's been maize it there could be chorus but you could do two before that and then there's no punishment where Shabbos is an Easter skilar potentially if there's a diminisher I mean it wasn't easy to get an issue skilar but the point is is any source killer desire there is and it's so severe so therefore these are the certain home rough shoppers ah if Erev Pesach has Shabbos so then you can't do because comets because Lord honey you do because comets Thursday night you do because comets Thursday night no we do it that we do it Thursday night yeah yeah Freddie tomorrow okay so we're good everything is good it'll be hood and settled huh mama settled review Hooters comments we understand and we heard the Scottish we understand the view the Shabbos we understand the Commons comments we understand Commerce ha - we understand else is good everything is your show me your show so I'm gonna go Mario let's go away from soccer for a moment free Romney the Shabbos a Shabbos I'm gonna show you a contradiction between Shabbos and Shabbos in other words we just saw will you explain to me that my shop is reviewed is like I'm good with Shabbos people don't make mistakes on Shabbos they're very cautious about Shabbos really let's look about shoppers and we'll see that even in Shabbos itself there's an inconsistency both for review then there's a common here we go a new one the tiny will enterprise-level deletion if cyclo you hate constrain a person has a picture a barrel a pitcher you want to lower the picture into the well right in your courtyard and bring water the house needs or one of the kids need water the problem is how do you get the picture down you had a rope and the Rope was connected to something it was tied to something so you lower down the picture and then you pull up the picture and you can have your water the problem is that rope LIF suck it snapped it snapped and it's on Shabbos what do you do lo a curse right you're now gonna take the two ends of the rope and make an axe which is an enduring knot which is a biblical prohibition on Shabbos to make a cash Okayama to make an enduring not that's going to last Ella I envy you just make a bow you make a bow and that's how you connect it and you could use your picture W hood I made of you there's much more stringent W this says no coriacea I love Punto it secure you have to wrap take the two part the ends of the rope put one on top of the other and then wrap round it up under a belt oopsie keep secure is a garter like another form of a girdle a garter belt hooble vatsala chilean vanu but do not make a bow do not take the two ends of the note and tie it as a bow like you may do with your shoelace take them together put one on top of the other then take a belt and wrap the belt around them tight and keep them together and that's how you can do it what's the verdict on an EVO a bow is permissible on Shabbos Lakota tribute it says you're now gonna make a bow cuz I'm afraid if you let him make a bow right he's gonna make a good nice not because he's dealing with it there how come him are not afraid they'd say make a bogus update cash interview that it'll be Hooda so the contradiction between a beard and a be hood in our brycie says you now gonna make a bow cuz you may come to make a knot we said earlier you're allowed to have an egg shell filled with oil because even though you may come to eat it I'm not afraid that from something permissible you're gonna do something forbidden and you're gonna eat it on Shabbos cash it it up on another table on the same contradiction between the Rabanne on by the egg shell with the oil they prohibited you to do it why because you may come to eat it on the other hand here's the same thing you're making a bow making a bow by mistake you may forget it make it not exactly the same issue like you may forget and take the oil to eat so I think about it I've bought nothing I'm on a like a ship there's no contradiction home that I bought another Lebanon because shamon bishopman Mishler and even big like necklace oil is exchanged with oil meaning the oil in the eggshell looks exactly like the oil that you eat a whole year there's no difference between the oil so therefore a person and advertently could make that mistake there's oil in front of you you take that oil just like you take the other oil because they look at the same I need a big shitty lima cliff a bow and are not are two different activities and therefore they're not exchangeable one with the other and therefore the how come I'm not afraid that the bow is going to bring you to the not gonna Buda Buda like kasha yeah yeah yeah today Buda Buda like a sure W there's not a contradiction time attribute because the reason from you this you misunderstood the price lab mushroom the Gaza and Nevada took not because of you does afraid that from a bow you may come to make a knot the cassava I never go for chili now Buda hold that I've never itself is a form of Cascia that's forbidden on campus in other words the Buda holds it when the toilet doesn't let you make a knot it includes also a bow so even though w that doesn't prohibit you from using an eggshell or a clay kairos to have oil that drips into the lamp on Shabbos and he's not afraid that people are going to come to eat it because people are very conscientious when it comes to is sri Shabbos you're right he is he's not afraid that from the ball you're gonna make her not people are very careful he's afraid of making the poet's goes the bows and this is the head eyes so that's his issue that's why he says you know let him make a bow instead take a belt and wrap it around the two ends of the knot so the Kumari I said okay granted we're good there are but unexplained themselves very well that they're not hypersensitive to everything they're hypersensitive when there's a reason to be sensitive come as they're not afraid of we already know why because you do even think his comments you want to burn it right kadosh they are afraid of because we already known that why because others you may come to eat there's no she no you may come to eat it and they don't say that harder to be really mean a they are afraid that people make these mistakes even if module II mean a the egg we know why they're afraid of they're afraid of cause even Shabbos again they don't hold that clear view that they hold there you have to be extra cautious there are hypersensitive besides my comments over there they're not sensitive but in all these places they're sensitive over here they're not sensitive why because it's two different creatures on our neva and a cash run either to say there's a bowl and there's a lot and they're not afraid you're gonna come to confuse confuse the two it's a completely different type of type of experience soma Mela we answered that something about a writer let's just see how Raschi summarizes the suger and then the Gemara does the last piece or a she says chemin zebra chemin to call Shauna miss Leveaux sila medically okay sorry it actually summarizes it soon something I'm gonna write to be Rami did I'm on another Nirvana I have another problem the rabbi's contradict the rabbi's why the turn-on we have a mission in Shabbos currently the FISC ear of a Lloyd behave Oh for the view hood the matter what does this mean you have a barrel or a barrel on Shabbos right and you need you need to get that barrel into the well to get water so what do you do you need a rope to attach the barrel so you should be able to lower it and bring it back up you don't want to lose the barrel with what do you want to have you want see says : your latter tidally a picture on top of the well be Fiske Ian the Fiske ear means Rashi says Feist law Shakur conspiracy uh Khayyam how does he translate it in there a garter okay it's a form of a belt Fisk EF Ischia a garter a garden which is what we used before also to translate sick we had before putting the up secure right a belt or a garter so here again the Fisker with a garter why I'll tell you what a garter you use for your actually says you put it around your thighs right there's garters that men use this guard is that women use it's something you put around your thighs your body you're not gonna want to keep it there because this is a garment so Mela you're not gonna make a cache Yokohama when you make a knot you're not gonna make a knot that's dear to endure but sorry Shabbos or whenever you're gonna undo it and bring the new rope that's made for it so therefore the comment said I don't care if you use a regular or not for this type of situation we're using a gardener because you're not gonna want to leave your expensive garter over there and after Shabbos you're absolutely going to exchange it and we know that a cash oh that's not a cash al qiyamah if it's made to be untied in a very short time your Latta tie it on Shabbos so therefore we're good of alloy but keval but don't use a rope because that you may leave forever yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah to hold up some of the garments yeah to hold up the garments yeah of alloy but Ravel but don't use a rope because a rope you may leave there for good but a buda mati comes of you who then says you allow to even privately with the Rope I says one second Hevel de my what type of rope alignment have all dow if it's a regular robe that you use for barrels w the martin kashish Okayama would've either a celebratory this is the worst it's one of the four 239 the locus this is a cash-in that's an enduring cassia because certainly you're gonna leave it there because it's a rope made for its how could it be able to allow this L look at the guaranty doesn't mean a regular role he means a Weaver's rope in other words a rope that's not made to tie a barrel it's much more expensive it's much more fine so the Gazoo Rabanne on level the guard at the level down yet their abundance still would not allow you to use a Weaver's rope why because you may come and use a regular rope so we see here a contradiction you're asking the Weaver's rope is a Cayley Shamala if it's a Cayley I'm elaborating I don't know how expensive if it's a Kalish a Malakal it is sir so if you want to use it for a permissible purpose it's like taking a hammer and using it to crack or not you're allowed to do that on Shabbos so I assume you'll want to do that on Shabbos you're saying if it would be so expensive Musa Maximus caster and kids that a person like using a laptop to crack or not you wouldn't be allowed it because Musa - caster and kiss question is how expensive it is right right right right right so the you who this says you could use that rope not a regular rope because then it's a casual comma but this is a weaver's rope so you're not gonna keep it there you don't want to tie it for a fur for good still the hakama are afraid that even though the weavers rope you will untie because you want it nonetheless they didn't allow you to use it on Shabbos right why because they were afraid that you may get confused level the guard there to level the Alma because it's a ash that you're gonna use a regular once they allow you to use a weaver's rope so here we have a contradiction why do we have a contradiction because there's a common said before you allow to make a bow in order to tie the two ends of the rope even though it may come you may come to make a mistake and make a knot because they're not afraid and here they are afraid they are clearly afraid over then they didn't prohibit making a bow because you may come to tie a regular knot and yet here what did they do they said you now letter use a Weaver's rope because I'm afraid that by mistake you're going to use a different rope and you're going to leave it not a Weaver's rope so the Gemara in your right and it's not a problem heaven but hell of heaven but heaven is love and live in luxury lima comfort one type of rope is exchangeable inadvertently with another type of rope in other words if you allow me to use this rope I may use this rope because I'll compete it - what's the difference rope rope but I never bashira a bow and I'm not are two completely different activities and therefore I allow you to tie it with a bow and I'm not afraid you're going to come to make a knot ah it's you you're dealing with the same Chaffetz but the activities of different activity the exchange that were worried about it's two different creatures here the exchange that were worried about is what a rope with a rope here it's a different it's within the rope but it's either an I never or or or Ishida take a look in raschi Michonne in on several disheveled mislead the hosta attired sooo cool and now at last everything got reconciled everything got answered there are born on Gazoo Karl hey Kodama cliff the rabbi's made a decree where ever there can be an exchange wherever by mistake you do something permissible and inadvertently you could make an exchange and do something forbidden baby Shabbos whether it's Shabbos bein Bashar Asura or other is sodium and let's go through he'll come the car - Latoya Amir Gazoo colors before the armor you're not let a harvest why during the harvest you may come to eat it because you already have it in your hand and once you're holding it inadvertently you may put it in your mouth next came a Sri Ferris they add with the oil the eggshell you may come to eat it I'd Shabbes so what but Sherman is something you eat the same but level the same is true with the rope and therefore they don't let you use a Weaver's rope I will become its Lloyd comments there's no zero why true the mozelova lesurfr because you're doing it in order to burn next bond even ami lay a bow they also don't mind why should the Lima Khalifa they're not afraid that my mistaken gonna come to do and math with it's a completely different thing that's the rabona so this answers their abana and they're not they don't believe in the smarter that we said that if people are detached from it we're not going like college they are geyser Shabbos they are going is there I discovered the Shabbos so what this home with the shopping but we're afraid that people make these mistakes there'll be hood the Gaza behold middle of the lived eliminate review hood on the other hand is guys that buy everything that people are not detached from if they're not detached from it he agrees to the rabona their abundance say even if you are detached from it review this says if you're not the attachment of guys who permitted the bird eliminate Lloyd Gaza but he's much more lenient if it's something that people are used to being detached from Hill huh become it's Gaza why because my comments you're not detached I have a brother Suleiman a over call hammock the Shabbos really be nice I the commercial be bad neighbor I said you know I wanna make a bow but should the consumer he guffawed shitty not because he's afraid you're gonna make a mistake because Shabbos bill a minute what's the shot that shot is I need an even good for is cruciate it because I never Goofy's so the affordable over here is is geyser know who the whole that I never sat assume in our Toyota colomac alkyl and pertinent whenever you ruin something on Shabbos does not assume annotator destroying something is not awesome in our Tona unless there's a productive purpose of making a Kaylee out of it and so forth so it's a different it's a different Macias you should have a problem trying on shoes on Chavez double knots the problem with a double knot is that according to one to the shiitake boy that's brought in Halawa it's called a cache or Oman there's two ideas when it comes to knots there's what's called an enduring not and there's what's called a craftsmen's not kasher Oman and kashish Okayama okay the question is do you need both to be making awesome annotator or even one a double knot according to some opinions is a cache or Oman it's a craftsman snot yeah right but it's a type of not the type of knot that resembles a cash or Oman meaning the idea of cash or omen means our effective professional - a sailor's knot is the real Koroma right right so the shelter a braided rings installed in our locker then a double that's why we don't make double knots even if it's for a few minutes a few hours it's brought by many it's protein so Honora has brought by many posts its potential tomorrow should be new design and healthy Shabbos a bow is fine when you pull it it just goes out no no no no that not it's not a not maybe who doesn't need a cheetah but [Music] first of all you know what to do right he's just ask you give a pull on it's over this class is brought to you by the achieve Annette please help us continue the classes make 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