Rabbi Yosef Greenwald Shiur - The Dual Identity of Krias HaTorah at Bais Medrash Ohr Chaim

You always have to remember the last week in there's a term that's used called we have to remember that it's a but same way if it would be the week before last week of nobody says you know it's the last week the end of the year the last week we could let things slide the last week of is really for starting the next year on the right foot. So is full learning and learning which is there so many nice so many to learn. So I always say that there's a parallel between between the last week of and between again preparing in the end of and that is that the seven days between was the one who did and says what did Here the say this is the of the that's called a k. So the last week of is sort of like it's really what that really means to say to us when do we wear by the so when you learn welldes and we go into with a with a really sets the tone has and then the days of which is the beginning of creating to go towards with a with a with an enthusiasm. Let's try to discuss a few of the so something which I'm sure you've met up with. It's what's called the famous of I'm sure it's come up in discussions. I I want to present to the there's an interesting back and forth and maybe this is a new way of looking at it an interesting back and forth between the of perhaps the two pillars of Eid's life is but when we ask ourselves what's what's our primary role as so that's that's our connection with the reven have an interesting parallel and this parallel lies at the heart of a that was asked and questioned on's personal and how he used to d how he used to hear the sh goes like this is we know is a three a day tells us that's patterned on the at night Soil primarily the the model of is something that was aid was hook on behalf for and on behalf of the gives it a name we mentioned it's supposed to the house of the is based the come from the misb And the mikdash is now there is a place in's life a very important role called holds that is not a is a means whenever you're faced with a trying challenging situation and you turn to the ben please help me this is the type of that engage in all the time famously whenever somebody would ask him a difficult chil he would always say quickly under his mouth he was that if you don't know what to answer somebody ask you something that you need to answer that's sort of like an he would say under his breath try the next time you're in a you're in a grocery store and you know you have an appointment and you can't find the things that are on your list say 5second to the it gets you into a win this is the type of I always the women that is the primary the women are ding primarily us men are dingon three times a day I'm not underplaying it but is but in terms of the is really the not just an added plus with a minion the whole surah of the dining is really comes from which is only there is no such thing as by it makes sense that the imperative to the three is not just an added plus that's we would say of the is that because that's come from if you think about it is very different is a mitzvah is not a mitzvah. You say in bed at night the same way you say it in the morning in has nothing to do with them. Has nothing to do with other people. It's on the doorway of your house. It's on your arm. It's on your head. And it's every second that it has is person's walking in the street. He's driving in the car. He could listen to a shir. He could think in learning. He could think about a cash. You can take it's nothing to do with others. It's not the if we ask ourselves for a drink of water. Thank you. The which one would we give more weight to the we would say is much more of a which is to the than which is primarily. That being said, I'll just add one more detail to that hor and that is that part of what makes the overriding and overwhelming responsibility that it is is that there's no reason why is everything. It's not just a mitzvah. It's everything is because there's no place or time or circumstance that gives a person a from any circumstance in a person's life is a sometimes more intense, less intense, longer, shorter, etc. situation. But is everything is very time bound. Shakus has a time has a time. Marv has a time. You can't be in mode and just four times one afternoon. You might be in the mood, but it doesn't work. there maybe there are other things you could do to fill that need but we don't four times is very is very defined by times it's a very interesting there's something in we don't really have that distinction look at the medish over here it's a there's any place in that's a it's this learning but had two distinct places one's called a medish and It's called the Besses. The kadusha of a Besses in the Gmorilla is considered. It's a shout of selling raising money. For which one? The one that has more kadusha is a base is above it's above secondary. Why is the kaduca of a base medish secondary to the kadusha of a base? I heard this many many years ago. The answer is isra is above time and space and if terra is above time and space the mo where one learns is secondary is very much a time a place the same way have to be brought in a certain place soil is in a certain place you have a kabu there's no such thing as a kabu where you learn you learn when you're waiting by the bus when you're by a red light you have time to listen to to to you learn there's no place and time for so because of that the mo where you learn is really secondary that's not the mitzvah itself so the of is secondary to to the bases now going back to our so if we would ask ourselves where the is we would say more than now there is no not so the whole is to learn as it's the of the Rambam says comes from the Gmorrah Monday, Thursday and Shabas because it shouldn't go three days shouldn't go three days without they got tomorrow right after the Eid can't go three days without water. They said where's we need water to drink and that means they needed to learn. So that means that is has to do with but not as a is not about but is the place where there's and whose name was rebell who was an uncle of Feinstein and he was mia on interesting manhog in brisk I'm not advising it for anybody. I'm not I'm not advising it for anybody. I emphasize in the brisk their descendants they want to d at their own pace their own style brisk they have a very defined way of ding and very many of the they feel that their need to concentrate and beic and d in their style has precedence over at home I'm sorry not So at home would dive in. He would d he would find you know when I worked for him he would ding 12 o'clock at night when it worked for him and he was not particularly bothered by the fact that he was dingus whereas if would dus he would thereafter would be very matriarch to put together a minion of people that hadn't heard and he would go to the another town he would go to the the end of town Monday and Thursday and rebellion is held that the imperative should be when you talk about the is to do it together with like we're saying what we're describing the is a very very very solid by definition is an expression Not is only that means have nothing in common primarily is they made it of has nothing to do with limit. It's not rebell's opinion was also the opinion of's own who in the yeshiva when used to do this of trying to put together a minion of his who was before was also he was the son-in-law of the would refuse to cooperate because he held that is high The yeshiva the shul has what happens if somebody had to go out he was on he went out of now to go to another minion this is the minion where he's ding the minion had a functional crew they lained finished by corona was there any to go back and make up that anybody missed no there were those that said you remember by corona that when we were able to get back together again that in order that we should be in sync with finishing off with being on the right track. So we should lane all the paras together until we get to the par wherever everybody when they joined up again with a minion where where they were but there's no on the is held not that way held that this is famous that even though clearly is like we're saying is but is but it's a to be it's a which is every to be part of it. Interesting. Very interesting. It's but it's a that's each to have to be part of it. Okay. So if you miss go find yourself on the other side of town that's It's interesting. We just went through and mash everybody knows whereas normally they l on this year they landed on Friday. It's interesting that comes up in the context of this discussion because rebell held that is a not more there's no to be part of it. There's a on the on the shul to have said there's no on the to find the len he brought him from in the beginning of mill the rabban says in the beginning that there are things is talking over there about which things need a minion of so he says the ram says that there are things that are but that's what says the rabban says that is ahead And the just say that when like it was this year because instead of they pushed up then you need a minion. So is inherently saying that there are certain things that are he says it on brought us to that there is no individual obligation called by definition is only answered back or I take that back I don't know if answered back the velt is on behalf of that all the way understand this is by saying slightly differently doesn't mean a minion needs a minion not like migill needs a minion the riot to this is is that if you shal this year you know very many husbands come home after migillah they lay migill for their wives There was no such thing. No husbands, no democracy, no husbands going home and lining for their wives. Why? Because it was a man say that a man needs it has to be done the optimal fashion. But guess what the doesn't have to be men could be women. It's not a den in meeting at the din of migill like he had in the times of the gum where they used to come the villagers used to come and they would lane two days early that had to be bas not because you need a minion because you need 10 people there for pursum. So what they have in shalim is instead of one man laning for his wife at home they put together a minion of women and that's that's it that's enough. That's not a So the saying that is as opposed to doesn't mean what it means to say is that it needs there are things that need Oh, this fell off. No, it's okay. So that's that's a fascinating discussion which is very many people they want to be they laying along with the is that a of does mean being with the has to be it's only by by that the one who's landing has to be there doesn't have to have in mind to be it's not it's a that there has to be a it's not by migill everybody has to hear migill the has to have in mind to be everybody so the the brisk famously said and is mb on this is that when migill is laned on the 14th and the ka has to be aim The briskarov said you can't read along you know how everybody reads along from their own migillas right when there's a nice trump you hear the like an undertone you know humming along he's the brisk was makid on a ka of your not along with the bare cuz he held that it has to be a being with a who's being argued on that brings down he brings down from the Kazesh the Kazesh. No, it has to be done together with a group. It doesn't have to be a of a You don't have to be with the of it has to be done together with like we just said it's not the regular. It has to be done together with so if you're in a room together with 10 people and it's being read loud that's called you're going along with the that's enough. Even if you're ling alone along in an undertone that's fine by it's certainly okay. There's no nobody's mactic. You're allowed to lay along with there's no there's also no you have to hear every word. There's no nobody needs to be pressured by if they if they don't hear every word person is that you're supposed to listen to but it doesn't have to be a pressure if you missed a word and a person miss a word doesn't have to say it like you do by because there's no that you have to say it you have to be part of the having a which means it's only except held that being part of that is the person is a responsibility. That's there's one other point which is part of this. What time is it? It's 6:00. What? Sounds like that even even when you're in I'm glad somebody I'm glad somebody's talking. I'm not sure if agrees with me or not. I love it sounds like even when you're in when you're in a seabboard when you're part of the board then now you hear where where he talks about the in the about you lane before do you have to listen do you not have to listen in but that's all part of since there's a there's a going on so you're part of the you can't be misal you can't walk away from the but not that it's a it's not your personal responsibility let's say you weren't Let's say you want in they held that if you happen to be in the next room and there's going to go to the next room that has there's no personal obligation for it's m on the as a whole not on the going back to you should go all the time you shouldn't miss any word it's a hither it's better but not that there's a to hear every word certainly not a every word certainly not a thing that if you miss a word you have to say along with us back when they were doing postures they try to be able to that's a very good question I I remember being very insp where they went through the whole next passion in order that he should is you want to be synchronized with but again it's a it's t a good question let's say they would want to make ones a separate minion laning pes doesn't work let's say in America to make a yumptive uh uh to make in America for Israelis because who's an Israeli here keeps one day but the certainly is not proud. So that's here in America for Yumpti. He's certainly not there's no of laning at best. What you could say is you're ling anyways. Anyways, that's a good question. This is the question of could you be from Shabas time next week's par where's that come from? Do we say that's already this man of that par? So if you lame the whole is that called you synchronized with the next that's a good but again it's not one other point that made there's a famous discussion which the mission br has was in I think is the question of whether you need when you have a minion that's there for sure made up do you need a minion of people that are in do you You need a a full minion of let's say you put together let's say you have a a let's say you don't have a million of people right you have seven people eight it's getting late you call two people off the street that's not not called it's not optimal but it's called you with a minion because of the ising you have and of the that's there are ding that's called of that's held that is only by not there's even a famous what right and there's a famous with brings and says that forgot and he put a in the middle of okay it's a little bit late we won't go into it but held that it's that even we're ding you can make out of but you can't do that by why the rale the way understood the rationale behind that would be that by ding ding there is a mitus of ding as a y but is so now you have a you have six people ding the six people that's called the meaning of by by what makes the is only there's no such thing as the is only together as a so when you have nine people that didn't hear you don't have a minion of the whole it would be like the analogy would be like you want you have a mikvah with 38 so you want to say ruby the mikvah is full that it doesn't work because you don't have a mikvah it's only when you have a tibus you can say rub on the whole thing but you can't say rub koul when you don't have that thing in the first place if you have a lula that's too short you can't say well rub kul most of it you have mo you If you have most you could say the whole thing is but you can't say if something is open so if you have seven people you don't have it that's says no is the same okay but I wanted to point out from the there's something very interesting This is a Rambamic. Very interesting. The Rambam uses the words like we said before it's the takon. They shouldn't go three days. We said over the Gmorrah the way the Gmorrah says it should be three days without the doesn't say that. The Ram sticks in a word which is funny. What does the Rama meant to say with that? It's interesting. Then the brings he was also now comes from it's clear in the there was no such lame it doesn't have to be three people. [Music] Then the Rambam says again He repeats again you look again says repeats again what he said he repeats again a second time question is why it's possible the rama means to point out like this what would be let's say you laned seven it's enough in the before It was enough for so that you weren't the why wouldn't you be allowed to make a why wouldn't that be enough? So the rabb emphasizes again that there is no once made. Yeah, it's an interesting lotion. It's possible. It's possible that what this based on is you still have another few minutes have another few minutes. It's possible the idea goes like this and this is a little bit related to purim but it's a it's a interesting site what's as opposed to most of our learning has to do with we learn we learn we learn but most of what we learn right very few of us in our primary is and even if you learn you're learning with Rashi with midash most of his mikra would mean taking out a and laning from most of that's not theu was and something very interesting it's a very fundamental and if a person reads a gor and he doesn't understand what he's reading he's not yet even if a person doesn't understand One word of what he's reading is why because the mitzvah is not so much the experience the of it. The mitzvah is the words of itself go into a person they give him a kadusha. When the Rambam says that Mosenu wanted to go three days not to go three days without he's not referring to he was referring to something else means the experience that gets together as a group as a nation every time there's a going on there's a mini theu the gab the one gab on one side the gabi on the other side that surah standing around the beimma is isn't about learning it was about becoming it was about being the experience of and that goes back to what we're talking about is that this is not the same thing as a is a the experience of as a is not learn and give it over to your children, give it over to your that's a personal thing. The experience of is the experience of where stood together as a group didn't want to go three days without a mini in order to keep the inspiration alive. So the he doesn't call that he calls that that's ask a question we just said it's that after was that you can't lukim you're not yet there is no lain three you can l seven you have one there's no such thing if you don't lukim Don't get up and lane. Why not? Why not? Why not just landuh wasenu? And the answer lies in understanding what's cyer was the beginning of bay shi and whereas in bas the primary was there was the were written in bay is the transfer of that is the swarm sayab Not only that says that Ezra was on the Madre that he should have been like except the D wasn't Roy but the Gor says that Ezra did have a mini giving of the that we use in the that we use in the first one who established that to be written in a wasra until the days of Ezra they used what they call which was some type of you can see a picture of it's like hieroglyphics it's like script but the writing of was to be written in the itself was only which means that what Ezra did was he created he was given the role of creating that the primary is now a different it's not anymore. It's is about getting together from that's not our but there's a mini that goes on every time that that's called Ezra gave that a spin a certain definition of brings if you want You could see it. You go to a shash. You could hear what it looks like when they l the while they're learning. You ever you ever saw it? Fascinating. Go to till today. They say a little bit differently than our brother. They do it. There's a we don't follow it because we don't understand the we understand the not the but they have a ton comes from Ezra to l with what does that mean? That means that Ezra was that from the beginning of the laned was an experience of the difference between that was lained by and that was laid by is a different experience is a function of there's a ka could be one person being it doesn't make a difference as long as there's a kan as long as everybody got together like the ram says tempim is already a of there are we don't have time now to where why three is and 10 is but Ezra established in another level of which is called it's called so that's why to say the Chinese differently okay there's more to say on the topic finish off with one And that is one of the in yonim in today is the the kingdom that we have initi when the especially when as the sole of is under attack. It's not a point that we have to make gave over the role of capturing to moving Yeshua captures says in the Gmorra that when was kicked out of by that became bot became bot once Ezra recaptured he didn't recapture went back We spoke about it one time over here, right? It was the last year that was over here that says something fascinating he says is based on that. The only thing that conquers the only thing that gives us live the terminology we use a person has what do we call it now world it's one and the same is one there is no without but there's a different not a different but a different focus which was a result of was related That was the our primarily where is seized to become the focus of we don't have we don't have the the scriptures are closed. We can't add more. We can't there's no there's no as that but every time sits and learns and he has his way of understanding his way of learning he's adding to never changed something never lost so of which is based was never lost the based that comes from Yeshua when was sent away from they lost that they lost that connection. So that was lost. But the is related to all of us that are sitting in the every place we eat and sit there sitting is alive and well. We didn't lose our so that's why that is a continuum never gets lost that this year's together with all of to grow saves manemblemen