Rabbi Yisrael Gottlieb - Krias HaTorah - What Can Go Wrong and What to do When it Does

I have to tell you that I always feel it a privilege to speak to this just I'm learning every night and learning and uh as much as I find it a privilege always to speak here this time I feel extra privileged the fact that you're learning nobody learns it but everybody needs it minimum four times a week right so it and not the shs come up Non-Stop and barely anybody learns it so it's a very very indeed I will tell you I heard from barel wne I heard this I think 30 years ago from him he told the Misa that I believe he heard directly from the SAT Reb himself sreb when used to go down to Miami he used to visit RAB wine so he always tells the stories by wine at the time was clean shaven wearing light colored suits but the S Reb would come down he say a ra in the M he visit the Ravi as a matter of fact he made sure to use's mikah that he should you know show his the mik's ker so they they developed a relationship they were actually quite close bar wine said that s told him he first became a he was 17 years old and in the K when he became a the Min minan many kilos in Europe was that when the RV came into town he went and visited the sh and all the sh would line up and they would show their to the r he would inspect it you how do you show authority over the K in the so he inspect the of each of the so he said it was a Thursday the day that he went to visit the sh and there was one elderly there who refused to show him his a little bit tense you know it's a young R 17 years old ELD with the white beard refused to show him his was haste so he said to he said tell me how frequently does a have to said every 30 days till you do you know it 30 days said tell me how frequently does a Rob have to SB said no number so he said I'll tell you what you go home you come back to me I'll sh my said he went home that Thursday night and he stayed up all night he stayed up all night going through that sh was his first sh was in the big sh in town there was a child in the sa they called him up to R's worst nightmare whenever you know whenever the the Ola and the balori and they're starting the hle and hak over there then the Gabi they're coming over looking like this looking like that like please don't call me up please don't call me up please don't call me up please okay right call me up call up what do you do so he knew exactly what to do cuz he had spent all Thursday night so he went back Sunday and he went to the he showed him the the from that I learned how to be a well how to be important you know to know these and how how to apply them so I'll tell you I was asked to give a title to this year and my first thought on a title for this year was everything that can go wrong but then I realized I have a flight there it's Isel Sunday night and I want to make the flight it's not it's not even close to everything that can go wrong but I will tell you that everything that can go wrong does go wrong and you have to be able to on the spot at least have some what to do so I want to start you off with a uh CH was know to be Huda tells aice it happened by him in the is not a new thing and he tells the following unbelievable in says that the K read the week's par and then afterwards instead of bringing him the sa fores they brought him the three for this week they the wrong saer and he started to read it opened up the saer started to read middle of the in the wrong place supposed to reades so right then they send somebody to the stud he says what do you do do you do you stop do you take out the other safer are you go this safer do you do you continue what do you do so says I finish because he started already then read the reades this is the read thees and then what do you do so said I to do the why that's that's that's the last thing you read that was the he says I gave this on the spot and I thought about it the right or not you that's one of the most painful things in the Raab sometimes you give a on the spot and you actually and then I'll never forget I once had AA so crazy M it's not h Kap was of morning and there was one Co in the SCH and he was hard of hearing and he got up there to do Kap and he went up by say the hadn't gotten to mve him yet and the coin thought he'd gotten already to uh to him and he made the now what right so there's no time like what do you do now right on the spot what do you got to do right so you got to make a whole you know yes wait Etc so I'll say that for when you learn but in the meantime says I looked at this far and he says I first BL I got it wrong and he says this is shabas is the same sh so instead of going toes first you went to Kan first and then afterwards you realized say you got to stop mom the exact same sh pardon oh beautiful so first of all says this of but it's not a din that if I start Theo first I should then be maick and then go to the next go to the T no I can I finish Theo I go to the afterwards says the he thinks even the here why him here says because this is very different in that by you're correct is not so much like the says on meaning if you the entirely and you missed out okay not it's not such a big deal is not you're reading it's not yes it's a that we have to read the over what cre should you read but it's not see even would agree that when it comes to you would go ahead and you would finish the then go toes afterwards but then says the so he says I was I found a I found the because and both say the same thing and they both say that when Falls ones like it does this year so why do we reades because he even though is and by rights like asked inas we should read the that's no because it's that which you completed the so but says the the says that was all my that the and the ETC was you that was on the spot before I had a chance to look at any F the Godless of the the is just mindblowing mindblowing if you if you read the hak of the mor to his to his sa on the tour so he writes that he wrote the saor because all he had in front of was the tour and if you read the saer he in the PO Etc all I had in front of me was the T B so I you know if all I have in front of me the T Bose then all have in front of me a t b that's he had everything in front of him says it's like this he says then I found the m in per he says but then he says something else he says that there's a in what the should be right first he says some say no some say should be this week Ines why okay says says the the okay I'll give you two he says same thing and he says but that's not how we're know it we're know it to be Etc and then he says the following he says I'll tell you why he says we're not is different I'll tell you why says covers both in other words says to say is both and so therefore he says I have both things I have my the last thing I read plus I have on top of that the fact that I can get the taller in there because it also covers so he says if that's the case right then I made a mistake because I said the last thing you read but the is is telling you the reason that you read this shabas for is is both Roes and as well and if that's the case so then even if you read the last rather says he says I thought at first I made a mistake but then you know I realized I was correct I realized I was correct well says like this where in where do you find what the mor is saying a remes fores in the P of right so you find the remes because it'ses right because we have the idea that on bring from the New Year's truma which is why we read now for the so therefore the which we're going to read this the we're talking about there is not the foros it's the right is fixing up the collecting says so what the is telling me is that since the has in it and even though the for but you know same it's to the that we use for Theos and we use for Theos is and that means it's we started and therefore it's both and as well says the the if that's the case so I could say the opposite for as well right I could say the opposite for to say that the that we read for is and there Sor rather is therefore why's what right so I'm just writing my my for my bolon before I came over here quote the right is there a bias you can build for me what does talk about in the talks about Theos says the so if if the fact that there's mentioned in the P of which would remind us of the for Theos which reminds us of the which reminds us is enough for the to say that the for covers rodes right then certainly fores which talks about coronos which is what the schum are used for is also and therefore says I was right my in other words they okay they're reading now so what do you do finish read now now what should you do for so there be a to argue well should be to say no because like the is saying the reason that you normally read the because in it as well that hases in it more than has in it and therefore the was correct so I would strongly suggest that you make sure in your shabas that second safer Tor the K gets is the right one but if he gets the wrong one and he starts reading parim second so you'll know what to do finish it up then go toes and then be lab be M would be I don't know how you'd get quiet get go to what is the the big sh in K really the biggest issue in K of course is the constant sh every single shabas Monday Thursday Etc and that is a toast in what happens when the Bal makes a mistake so I know when I was a uh when I was a kid we used to say it's like a sport in some shes right who can get the balori so you know you're waiting can you be the one to correct him I remember Asar Mitzvah many years ago it goes back about uh probably 31 years ago as a Mitzvah on a shabas morning and the Gabi at the beima say wanted to announce that no one should make Corrections from their seats you know all Corrections will be made up here but instead he announced no one should make Corrections from their seats he said all mistakes will be made up here was he was right every mistake you could imagine was made up there and they weren't corrected they weren't corrected the sh becomes when is there a to correct when not and is there room Poss ly at times to be more lenient so to speak in correcting or maybe more you know you have to be done always in these sh which is the is it a to be and assume you're taking you know on behalf of the or maybe and you have a on yourself to be or is it is that a in cover up R if you have a b who's up there and struggling Etc I have a a son I'll tell you I have a son who's a very talented B now he's uh he he Lanes every shabas he doesn't want to miss a week and from the time he was by Mitzvah he was a he was a h he very much fit for that when he was a young child just passed by mitz he was laning on a yum of morning there was a guy there who very mtic in so he couldn't get two words out without guy scoping him get two words out so he went four or five years without laning Mish went years without doing it because so you know is is this guy's pag I'm I I don't make the you know who gets and who gets whatever but this guy's kedos took a talented young man who could Lane took a out of laning so it took a lot you know K Sak at the end of the day you know could to make enough money off of it so he'll go back to it but you got you got to you got to be smart so the tour brings down the seanik very famous tour tour brings down the seanik the seanik says basically don't correct anybody he says that when it comes to so basically he seems to say any error that's made doesn't make a difference if it's the if it's the K makes a mistake leave it alone leave it alone why sh don't embarrass him says made a mistake okay so what still what's his Source his source is the m someone called he's still y so you see that if you read the Torah and you don't get it correct you know it's close is good enough horseshoes hand grenades and K it's good enough that's the the sa although there is some question about what the sa actually means what you get to in a minute and then he brings down R says no Rah says if someone made an error even you got to go back you got to do it again until you read it predict B says from the tour Bringing Down the r second is he's not POS like the that he's posting like the r you have to go back brisk held that the r me even in the M the TR would correct you and make you go back even for trop but you know you're going to Lan in brisk you know what you're getting into you got to you got to have to be careful you got to lay in brisk but um the the the base y brings down very famous what are you talking about I how's the tour Bringing Down the that if one is to that he doesn't have to be when he brought down Tor brought down earlier from the r the is not guy doesn't know what he's talking about does know what he's doing so how do you tell me was not and he telling me that no you are say with a Crea that's not predictable don't correct him so he brings down two possible answers the one is when when the r says earlier rather he's talking about meaning don't put up a guy to Lane who can't Lane a little bit of a difficult because of sounds like it's even but okay that's one possibility and here he's saying okay it happened he look he read it and you don't want to be anyway so it's good the second possibility is that maybe there's a between a and maybe between a toast where it changes the meaning versus a toast that doesn't change the meaning you could have a toast that will change the meaning yeah have a to that won't change the meaning says that's the r is telling you that is not y if a guy makes errors that change the meaning of the words but if he has errors that don't change the meaning of the words so then you are and that is the r versus the second here in the in right the like the ra straightforward make a mistake even in one the post can bring down the of like this but not for unless the Trump would change the meaning as well but there are times where an error in Trump would change the meaning meaning if you're pausing in the wrong place even though taka a very interesting idea which as we had this past week's para right we have so if you're learning the where in the right it's so often times the the the itself doesn't follow the in the but the post can bring down that for a sometimes pisc time him will make a difference see one of the problems with correcting you have to actually know right words you have to actually know when something's going to change the meaning in not that you know B versus B right so you know know which one it's supposed to be that would be a time where just simply the emphasis would change the meaning drastically other times the it's it's a little more subtle but you have to know and you have to make a call on the spot right meaning do I yell out corre ction when the person is made I think I made a mistake but I don't know if the mistake taka is changes theion or not maybe it doesn't so you have to be done you know again which is AA is it more of AA to yell it out and potentially create a disturbance I I I often say and this is when I'm when I'm in a Shore that's not mine so my my my my always is that's why was a guy up there right usually he's wearing a long Kata not you know not like a bum like me right he's wearing a long cup podt that's why he's you barl wine used to say again he said I was once with him at a Levi on a very hot day so we get paid to wear the black jackets and the hats and the hot Sunshine right you know you get get paid for that so there's a guy up there whose job it is to do this so viceo if he didn't correct the guy that means that he was done that this is not a toast that's closer okay there are Ts that are closer there not closer see was done it's not a toast that's closer also always done so if the r didn't correct the guy and I correct the guy so I'm a of two people right I'm a of the B I'm a of the RO right why so I can hear the Torah tell me not to move AA people right I can have a Torah the Torah tell me you should act would covered up real maybe you have to be done what the is and what not you know all the post can bring that of course that when you correct somebody you correct him Bas you correct him you know respectfully very you know you're gentle with it and uh if you can you do it I mean you have a guy who T blows off the laning you know guy sometimes you have it in certain shs a guy he's Mo he's M he has to Lane every week I can't read the words and he blows off L he doesn't prepared I'm not talking about somebody who you know sincerely tries which is a different and lot harder for the r de the guy want to L every week doesn't want to prepare the Ling okay that's when you know M you you shut him down but uh you don't have a guy who's who's uh who's doing that so you have to be careful about it but again it's a very important says here someone airs in the orik we don't make him repeat now Nik so all Theon you say the brings it down the brings it down all the says it already that is meaning if T the toast in the Nik is not the which is often the case then you would not be but instead of so Tak that brought about enough Corbin already You' be instead of so that you be because that's a toast in theik that's M if it's not you're not going to be so that's the basic of the again every toes unless it's in the time that doesn't change the inion so you're going to beos and the Ramos says no if it's a toast that changes the engine which is either a word taka that's wrong or but again he's being done that Aon and horon without the doesn't change the bit of a but that doesn't change that's the of the r here still says right even you're making not say to be yeah go andb but again go andb the post can bring down means when you got a guy who's blatant he's he it's not a guy who's trying hard and you know he made a mistake or you got a sh sometimes you have a sh people are sometimes TI you got a sh where there's no B you got one guy who's going to Kum he's going to work you know he's going to work hard to Lane he's going to try as hard as he can to prepare it and then what happens he gets up there and everybody's shouting him down so what's G to happen so you have Tak Noor and then where are you right then and then you know then it's it's your problem to get it gorbo is a very hard get there to find right not to tell you right so here's a here's correct the Bor right okay which one do you choose M I'm not saying you shouldn't correct the Bor eff but has to be done the also very often especially if the r has a relationship with the B and he respects the R so when the r corrects him it's one thing right when the guy you know the guy behind him corrects him is a different thing so you have to know who can who can who should who should not correct but it needs to be somebody who and can be done I will tell you however two very important things number one is the does not at all subscribe to this of and the B says it's not true the B says that in fact the is that no to iser no to iser make an error makes no difference he says he says um says the two things number one he says that the is I don't care what error you made not the Emma say the has a in the it's a fascinating thing that here the don't bring down the does cites the but the the ask on the because he doesn't the as the is written the in the this right and there's nobody there we we'll call the is of Orlando right you spend I guess people don't spend shabas there from here it's good right but you know people go down whatever they go down they worry about a minion afterwards they worry about Cory afterwards they worry about K afterwards you worry about everything afterwards right so so there no so what do you do you got a no just do the whole thing read it the regular way ET says even though the right but he says the tour brings down the rav who argues CA of and that Med also brings down is brought down I'm sorry the name of the of of in inas bring this down the r ends off with this at the end of K right he said the the the himself brings it down the fascinating because the starts off with which is says ACC this will not be you would not then say to read nobody knows how to read properly ends off like no you do you read in there as as the the rav would hold you read so the B says not only do we is that the of the that's the the Bak is made in his time Bak is also in brisk he's just a few hundred years before theak has made it his time in brisk thein is not like the uh not like the she of the ra like the you not anybody the brings this down El brings down the Bo and he writes the following says he says unbelievable says we should be we should okay if they're not not going to be going back to fascinating and fabulous PL from the now again the post don't bring this down the Modern Day post gim but it's a so to have in your back pocket what happens Tak you're stuck especially like I said you end up some sometimes stuck where it's Mish every word every two words it's torture so okay get up there and whisper in his ear if you can but if you can't so it happens to be that the um the is usually you know more more willing to be says what's the med you're bringing down it's a med not a med brings down an idea that even if you know they call says he talking about an who sits down with a safer you know and he's not how to read it still loves that right still has he not talking about reading talking about St guy who's reading you know by himself wherever he is so therefore feels that the at least is the one you should follow and that if it's a toast that is then if not then not that's again how we're know it but as I said and you have to know who should be yelling out who should not you have to know if it's or not you have to know that the brings down that those who are not says that's the and so even though we like the like the of the second but at the end of the day I would say if you if you should be you know and you think it's going to be the guy that maybe the the suff should go not to be M the guy but add one more piece of fascinating piece that's the following the uh I told you I got a flight to catch Sunday night there's so much to talk about here the the the M brings down that if you T if you made a mistake and you didn't read right or you skipped the you have to be right that's you skipped the have to be closer but that's only says the Primm on shabas will be this in this comes up all the time I've seen this many times had my show before as well Monday or Thursday or shabus afternoon someone skips AP very common especially you know different sedur have different divisions where to stop the alos especially Monday Thursday shabas afternoon the truth is that the rules for stopping the alos are you need three you can't stop within you can't start within and you shouldn't end on Anan ra aside from that there no to it there's that are done and if you open up different s you know you you open the riddhe versus the art scroll I have I have a yo who Lanes by me Monday Thursday so he always asks me where do we stop because his Riddim stopping point is not the art scroll stopping point so where do we stop so you know my claup sock is always go with art scroll cuz less people are going to yell at you then it's amazing when I first came into my sh and there was a sh about what to do about on so there's a famous M with that the r came into the sh I had this came into the sh and you know what do you do half the saying half the saying don't so the r turns to one of the he says what's the Min says the mining is to fight th is the minic that's that's theic in the sh right so so you know do you say or not so one of the BAM told me he showed me the fish art scr instructions what else is there beish art scroll instructions how that's that's what you do right everybody knows you know it's it's the not the art instruction right where's the but the dictates that if it's a shabas of course there's a there's a word skip there's a poic skip you have to be closer but if it's Monday or th or shabas afternoon as long as you read three you're not closer why not because you're going to be m shab in other words a Monday Thursday and the pr brings down as well that if it's yum of the same thing although says if it's the then not but it's not then yeah then okay you missed it so the whole problem is that you have to be Mas Monday Thursday shabas have to read three to each of three people one person has to read four even though even then if he already said after the and you only read three three and three so right we're gonna read n you're reading 10 so if I read even if I skipped a but I read okay good brings down so what about a toast in the Korea on a Monday or a Thursday or a shabas afternoon we had three besides that words would be that if I have three that I read so then I I didn't get the fourth p a t in the P okay good so there a t in the fourth P I didn't get the fourth p i St so is it any worse right is is it Guru because he says maybe it is worse he brings down and the brings down that if the MRE game is MRE game and he made an error that you have to be closer in the today we have makes an has to be closer says the definitely not we don't have today even though I would love to see one I'd love to see it the EM say it's our today is a p because the C is that people zero you should know what's in there people don't uh M don't hear it they don't hear it they don't know what's going on in there but you know we're not m in law and there's reasons for that we should have a a in what's going on in there the Mish says maybe from there you see AR that that which is not still he say maybe not cuz maybe the M Mame is different in that there he's actually him teaching the makes an error was there to teach people and he's not getting because he got it wrong then you're but in the where there's a toast in Thea Maybe not maybe not he's not sure about it he's not sure he's so I once had one time I had in my should had a shabas afternoon I don't remember the exact toast but I had a bar mitzvah I think he was like 13 14 years old he was laning shabas the first the Cain was like six long and he kept making the same mistake in the first POS over and over again and it kept correcting him I kept making the same mistake and they kept correcting him kept making the same mistake it's fine I said just go on just go on wow did that get busy that got labod people what where what what who's this Rabbi and where do you get this from and you know Rabbi wine would have never done that and you know got very labic it was in fact a visiting R there was very very he was very upset by it show brings this down again he's but he's note to say if you look at the bring saying you don't have to be it's good so that's why you look at the have to look at the original Source because it's not necessarily quoted exactly as is but there is a s and again here is a meaning there's a s to argue that a Monday or Thursday even the that is not because you're going to read it on chabas okay far to say no because it to is worse than a okay maybe but there's also the and the and the and the know is never closer so there it's a it's a sex meaning that Monday Thursday even according to ra not you don't even if you are closer according to R like the so I wouldn't just say okay you know ignore all toos on a or Thursday but I always breathe a side Rel especially when there's a Kay who's not such a buy when he gets through suim I feel like okay I can relax right he got theim now I can relax we're good except that you can't relax if he's going to stop in the wrong spot within thuk with the para that's always a a worry I always I always say the biggest AA and they correct it now in the Hebrew Edition the art when they printed thees they took out the p and Samos so you're killing every R you have to you have know the pay and Samos you got to know where to you know where the stops are but if you if you if you make a mistake in the first grou maybe he'll if you want to do this f f business maybe maybe he hold not good outs yeahi 100% so I have had that sometimes where it's mistaking the first you know couple of suum go on and then you know okay just make sure you read those suum correctly but I'm saying this shabas afternoon this this particular M was it was I think it was six times they corrected this this this toast and every time he read it the same way again why if why he couldn't get it correct he couldn't but it was already it was I said okay you know just leave it let him go on he read theim the next shabas morning see then Tak I'll tell you one thing that's for sure though is that when I have that if I have that every during the week then on shabas morning when the co reads that PA I'll make sure to pay careful attention you be at it right now because we don't have the the week day to fall back on so shabas morning is different but the MS is there is strong sorrow to rely on here now the truth is I didn't get to anything I wanted to talk about tonight cuz I really wanted to talk about what happens if you find the toast in the saer Torah cuz that's really when it gets lab had I'll just give you a quick Hama no I won't we're out of time I'll give you a quick Hama and then and then I'll stop with that I had a reev in Yeshiva a couple years ago told me that he had a myu in his sh and shabas not in this community different Community the rub wasn't there they found a toast in the saer Tor in the middle K Torah they put the safer Torah away took a new safer T out started from the beginning of the Aliyah without a so I said it's mic so it's mic I said there's so many shos in what to do when you find the toast and the sa tah it's very hard to do something that get goes like none of them I said you managed in your sh you managed to go like nobody not like the morai not like the rambam not like the rash not like you manage like nobody so that taka takes you know some sort of work but to see that what to do so maybe we'll have a chance to be some other time again for inviting me I really appreciate it and we should just be to be