Rabbi Yehoshua Weber speaking at Thursday night Mishmar at Scheiner's Shul Parshas Chukas

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And I I I've also found like weird pieces of meat in my col where it came from. Okay. So come on. Let's go. You ready? So I mean the tabour is Mayariva. It's such a difficult story. Menu is being punished. So he must have done something wrong. But I mean the punishment is huge, right? He can't lead close into Israel. It's a punishment for him. But in a certain sense, it's also punishment for Claudius because they lose that mushroom's leadership. What did he do wrong? I mean, what is the big hit? So, I think we're raised with Rashi. But you really have to sort of try to wrap your head around what Rashi seems to be saying. Rashi as as you know, as we're taught Rashi is that told Moshe to speak to the rock rather than hit the rock. Right? And this is this is the approach that we share with our kids. Hakadesh Baru sent designated a certain rack. Mosha Raenu spoke to the rack. The rack hid. So Mosher Rainu struck the rack because the rack was hiding and and and then and then eventually you know eventually the water came. So what is trying to trick me? Menu is Dafka doing doesn't tell him to do. Like what exactly is going on here? trying to catch Moenu like why is if wants Moshu to speak to the rack then let the rack be spoken to but why have a situation where the raq um hides and mobu can't find it come to me and I come to the car come with me to source six middle of um it's rashis right um okay so come to the um so Um so six three lines in there was no water that came out just a little bit they spoke to another rock and then there's a message that says because the rock went and hit itself. What exactly is going on here? So what's so let me offer a little bit of a perspective here. Why really did Misha hit the rack? Akadesh Bar told meu speak to the raq. Why in the world did Misha hit the rock when told him to speak to Iraq? Even if you know he tried speaking if it didn't work why hit the rack why did Masho do that different generation. So what are you saying is from a different generation what is the different generation took out of Mitsay and that was the first gener first group of people that left Mitsay now it's 40 years later it's not a group of people who were taken out of Mitsim it's their children and grandchildren. And the they're not and they're not used to miracles. But what type of miracles aren't they used to? What was going on? What was it like initially when took Kalius for a lot of the time? What did he always use? So come with me and I want to look at some cars together a little bit further ones told me take the stick. Now you got to ask yourself if a wanted meenu to speak to the rock rather than hit the rock why did he tell meu to take a stick and it's not just take a stick it's take look at 13 the does the say kak m or does the say take why so that's very confusing to he's expected to Then why is he taking a stick? And he's not just taking a stick. He's taking the stick. Look at take the stick. This is the famous stick. Which stick is this? This is the stick that used mim to bring the makos. This is the stick that used for kus yams. This is a powerful stick. And always always always and always always always stick that might have gone back to. So come look at me and look at 14 take the stick. So why is telling to take a stick if doesn't want to use a stick? He's telling him to debell. And why is making it hard for me? We know that told to speak to the rock. We know the medish. You've seen the medish. Rashi rings it down. That there was a rock but the rock was hidden. It went it hid itself. So tried speaking to it and he couldn't speak to it. So didn't know what to do. You have what do you want to do with that? So that's it's all confusing. So you have Clausius here. People are dying of thirst. They're complaining. Mishabu was afraid that that they'll turn against Akadesh Baru. He doesn't want people to get bitter and upset for a whole fight to happen. So Misha did the best that he possibly could. Kadesh Baru told him speak to the rock. He tried made it impossible for him to speak to the rock because the rock doesn't just move itself must have told the rock don't be where you're supposed to be. So it's going to be hard for me told him at the same time take a stick. Why do you tell him take a stick and not just a stick take the stick the one that he kn for? So Mishenu instinctively went back to his to his innate assumption that you always work with a with the stick and he worked with a stick over here as well makes so much sense. So why is Mosher Raenu punished and why is putting him in this position? So what did you say? You said different generation. What was the generation that left Egypt like? They were used to seeing miracles happen to them. They were used to seeing miracles happen, but they were also used to beat up. They were used to getting beat up. Let's talk about our kids and let's talk about our parents. Right now with kids, you have to be so soft and you have to worry about anxiety and nervous breakdowns and no parent would patch your child now. It's like the most it's just like not on the agenda, right? Go back a few generations. Totally different mindset, right? Right. A totally different mindset. So you know whether it's good whether it's bad but there's a change. Sure. So it happened the gula maybe it happened in our lifetime but it happened in Misha Rabeno's lifetime when took Clas out of Egypt. They had been slaves. They had been beaten all day. Main wasn't there to beat them but they they were it was a different people. They were a people where you had to sort of take total control. You had to lead them by force. You couldn't really talk and explain things to them. Maybe you couldn't they didn't understand things. They had been slaves their whole lives. But it's 40 years later and it's a different generation. Is Maureno the right leader for this generation? He's Mishra. He's the greatest person who ever lived. But you can be the greatest person who ever lived, but you might not be the right person for this generation. What's the big difference between Mishraenu and Yahosua? What does always tell Yoshua? What does Mishraenu tell Yoshu? What's the famous phrase that comes up again and again in the Tory and in Yeshua? What's the phrase? The mats be strong. Yeshua is very soft. Yeshua follows Mishraenu. Mishraenu looks like the sun. Yeshua looks like the moon. Yeshua does not assert himself. Very low-key. He doesn't force himself on people. Talks to people slowly. Talks things through. Maybe it's not so good in a way because if you really want to accomplish, you need strong leadership. But maybe it's very good in a way because but when people are very soft, you need to be soft. Misha took a strong approach to leadership. Yoshua took a a soft approach to leadership. Maenu was the great Mishabenu. Yeshua was the great Yoshua. It's not that one was good and one was bad. They were both great, but they had different approaches. Maenu's approach was an excellent approach. But it was an excellent approach for which generation? For the generation that left Mitsay, but for their children or grandchildren. Maybe it wasn't the right um approach. Aesthetist role. Why can't mainu be the one to take clitoris ro? Menu wasn't qualified. Mosenu wasn't brilliant. He's not a sadic. He's not a none of he's not a he's not he's not um he'su. But it still has to be the right approach. Right? Two people date. He might be wonderful. She might be wonderful. They're not compatible, right? Maenu was very strong, used to leading people in a very strong way. This new generation is soft wants to tell meu you can't take Israel into Israel because if you take them into Israel, you're going to be the leader and you can't retire because if you're there, Yeshua won't be able to lead. It's just not the it's not going to work. You have to die because you can't lead them. But my try is trying to understand why can't I lead them. I took them out of I brought the makos. I protected them. I fought for them. I did so many things for them. What does a kadeshbu do? A kadeshu creates a test where the true mob comes out. How do you know what a true person is like? Yes. I have one daughter. She married a very wonderful boy. But I remember when I when she was dating, you know, you worry more about your daughters than your sons. Just I mean, I don't know if what stage you're all at, but um you want to see the true person and you really don't see a true person on a date. And what do you see on a date? You don't really see the true person. What? But if right, but if there's a flat tire or if there's an accident or if there's a breakin, a stressful situation, then you see the true person. Now, it's how do you how do you arrange something like this should happen on a date? I guess you can pay somebody to sort of, you know, slash the tires. Maybe it's not a bad idea, but the way to see the true person on a date is to have a crisis. What kadesh was telling, you're the biggest saddic who ever lived. You're of you you you went up to and you were with for 40 days. You saw things. You did things that no one else could do. And you were in a way that no one else was. And you were the right leader for that generation. But it's a different generation and you're not going to be the right leader and it's not going to be good for them. They're going to have a leader who doesn't match. And you can't go in and have Yeshua lead, have your Talmud lead. He's not going to be able to lead. People will always turn to you're going to have to die. But akadesh doesn't want to die and to feel bad, to feel that he's been rejected. So wants to show me that you're not the right person anymore. How does a kadesh show? He shows him his true nature. How does the kadesh make that nature come out? Kadesh puts him in a dilemma where he tells them something confusing. Speak to the raq but carry a stick. Of course listen toes right. He speaks to the raq but he knows that also tells him to take a stick to do with it. He doesn't know. But he knows that as soon as he tries speaking to the raq, it doesn't work. So what does Misha Rabenu do? He hits it. He hits it. Why does he hit it? Because he's used to hitting it because when he left Mitsayim, he hit um in Mitim, he used the stick to the atams. He used a stick forums. He's used to using a rock a stick because that's what he's accustomed to doing. So here he doesn't know what to do. So he uses the stick. What is showing him? When you're in a situation, when there's a crisis, when someone's tires are slashed, when there's a breakdown, when things fall apart, your true nature will come out. And what is your true nature? Is your true nature speaking or is your true nature using a stick. What is your true nature? Using a stick because you used it effectively at Yams. You used it effectively. You used it again and again. And you we're used to people who need a tough, strong, defined, absolute leadership, not people who need soft negotiating type of leadership. And aesh tells him, I know that when they come into there going to be crisis and there are going to be confusions and there are going to be mixups and you're going to have to step in all the time last minute and figure out what to do. And when you step in last minute, you figure out what to do. Your real nature comes out. What nature is going to come out? a nature of stick or a nature of using of speaking what nature will come out the nature of the and it's not a bad thing but it's not the right approach for this people so why did what it was really it was a way of showing who he really is it's not that my failed anything told this is who you are you're not bad because of it you didn't fail a It's such a what I mean to to lose the right to go to exist because of you're told to speak to a stick but then the rock hides and and you you're a stick is put in your hand what in the world should you have done why can why why are you being blamed wasn't blaming him wants to realize who he really is but how does he realize this by creating a situation where the true ma comes out but how do you have the true mishu come out by how do you have Is the true come out by creating a situation where he doesn't know what to do when he doesn't want to know what to do and speaking isn't working and and he uses the sticksu that you know you're made a certain way knew he would use the stick knew for sure because knows the way a person is made it wasn't the punishment it's like you're going on a date and after you four dates you break up. Not you're being punished. She's not being punished. You're not compatible. I got this program saying you're not compatible anymore. You're not the right person to lead. And I want you to realize I don't want you to be broken. I don't want you to be hurt. I don't want you to think that you hadn't you made you did something wrong. You're just not the right leader. And here I'm showing you. How am I showing you? By creating a situation that that isn't your ava because it tricked him, right? He would have wanted to use um he um he's saying he wasn't punished, but he couldn't go into that's not a punishment. You just can't lead them. Not everything in life is a punishment. And a date. Again, if a girl breaks up with a guy after four dates, is it a punishment or she saying we're just not compounding? Not many punishment. It's Is it really a punishment? Did he do some What did he do wrong? He knows He knows that this nation was going to stop and and he people can go in, right? He knows this nation is supposed to go in and he knows that it's not going to be good for them if he goes with them and now he understands that it wouldn't be good for them and if it's not good for them it's not good for him because wants what's good for works everything out so didn't lose anything at all then would have seen that had changed but a kadeshu knew what mu would do just the way you know is who in your life do you know the best he accepted but so positive tell me probably the people you work with 24/7 right right you know them the best right and sometimes you know the way a person's going to react right so knew he knew the way so Right. Somewhere around the corner. He can't go back there right now. Why? Cuz he had to leave early because his he got that letter from about the draft. Mhm. He hasn't go back. Goes back, he'll be arrested, right? He can't go home. He can't go home. That's his home. That's our home. But it's not because home is where a kadesh wants him to be right. I'm a material person. I mean I focus on does want what wants and wants to understand for whether he lives whether he dies this doesn't make a difference. He knows that you live so you can do mitzvah so you can have more than wanted to understand why can't I take them to and sometimes the only way to understand is to see what you really are saw what he really was because and how to see it by creating a scenario where the true mu came not that he was bad or he did anything wrong this way it's not a vera this way it's sort of a statement that mishenu this is not something you can do it's a very simple approach and I think it's what really what Rashi really says otherwise how do you make heads and tails out of this how do you explain this we we were brought up there's no head so is it clear so the rock hides and measurement hits the wrong graph [Music] where you want. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm giving you another approach. It's your approach. I think it's what Rashi is saying. And I think it's really the Ramban reading it into Rashi. I mean, I brought them go through them. Now again the P says so we're used to using it like a umish but maybe is you don't have the capacity to to sheni to do it in a way that is appropriate for this generation. I still don't like this. Yeah. No I don't. And so how do you come to terms with the rack hiding and the kind of smoker telling me to take the stick like the bad part is I'm tell the end result he doesn't like the end result no the end result is is that you're explaining that you thought I I get I think the best thing would be dating I think because I I think cuz you you're accustom you're raised with viewing this as a punishment. I think what he's trying to say is wants to feel good. You know, I I think again I think a best example it's not his fault would be dating if for him there's he still lacking something he didn't best example is dating. If a girl says no and a guy wants to continue dating it feels really really bad. But if you know he understands that they're just not compatible somehow, you know, it's just not we're not compatible then it's just much much easier. I had a friend who went on went on many dates and he thought the girl and he was at the retirement in his life. It was very hard for him to get off the sh so he would and she wanted a person that's going to she wanted a person that's going too right. So I think after six seven whatever she called it off and he was he didn't go into work the next day was spoke to China and said he has to go out one more time he needs closure or something so she said you know all the nice things but where I am I need someone to wake up and let me right again it wasn't because it wasn't so that right that's a that's a little bit of a s more of a sensitive thing because because he in his heart knows that he really should be going is is is it's good. It's it's not as if there's anything wrong. Compatible means not that one person is is, you know, cares about ding one a little bit less. They just don't have compatible personalities. A person and put their finger into a flame, right? Are you going to sit and cuss out the flame and say, "How do No, it's a cause and reaction." He'd be upset that you didn't know that you shouldn't put your hand, but you're not going to be upset the flame. It's a cause and effect, right? So, I wouldn't even say if it's cause, it's going to showing him it just doesn't fit. You know, you're trying to suit it's the wrong size. Um, you're a 44 and this is a 40. It doesn't fit. So, saying these people need someone who speaks. Of course, you can do anything. He's mur. But at the end of the day, if a person has a certain approach that he's accustomed to doing, that's what he'll normally fall back on. Main will normally fall back on this approach. How do we know this? Because he did. Okay. But what happened kind of proves the opposite of what you're saying. I kind of think that he had both ways of working. He was a man was a man who knew how to deal with every situation, but he still had he spoke to the Rock. The rock didn't listen. So now he said, "Okay, fine. Next step is Hashem gave me a mata. He told me to take a stick for reason. So now I'm going to try the stick." Had different ways. But Yeshua wouldn't have done that. Yoshua would have spoken to the rack and if it didn't work, he would have gone back to Hashem for clarity or he would have spoken to maybe another rack. Yeshua would have been more reluctant to go to the stick cuz he wasn't accustomed to doing it. So not that was was less than but had an approach that worked so effectively. So he went back to that Yeshua never had that approach. So what brother was saying is that not you you're the greatest person who ever lived but you're still a person. And when you're a person when you're accustomed to taking a certain approach that's the approach you're generally going to take. I like it because it's a completely different person and brought up and it reads into Rashi and it reads into the sukim and says Rashi says that myu um um tried to speak to the rack but it wasn't the right rack. Now it's my she going to speak to the wrong rack. So another rash that says the ra rashi the rack moved right. I mean what what I mean the rack moved by itself. I mean what is this? If the rock moved wanted it to move. So why did Kadeshbu want to trick him? And these are questions you have to ask. But if it's not about a kadeshu tricking him, if it's about a kadeshu showing him loves and he doesn't want to be hurt, he doesn't want to think that he's being rejected or that he did a vos or that he's not royu. You are the most amazing you're you saw um you you're everything. You're more than anyone who ever existed. But at the end of the day, you're not the right leader for this generation. A person is a boy is a wonderful boy. He's his balidos. He's everything. But he's not the right boy for this girl because her personality just and his don't drive together. This generation needs a leader who is much more attuned to talking rather than hitting. Now you need strong leaders sometimes. They weren't ready for maybe it wasn't. No, it's not a you make a very doesn't have a I think you're making an excellent There's no right. I think you're I want to say the same thing you're saying but after wasn't able to go into with I think it's further developing this idea that was the first time spoke to he was actually speaking to the raw rock right but just makes mistakes like that he's just he's like you just talked to the wrong so why would speak to the wrong I mean just got confused is which rock did he hit so there's a mish that says the rack moved moved like what the rack it was it was one rack and it moved so to trick my train like why would a rack moved it again it's again whether it moved whether it didn't move it's just a statement that was telling me impatient that's why so that would be another approach there's a ras about that he was there was a little bit of that's our generation they were so like what's going on we're so we need water and now right But but so so Yoshu was more patient than Mishraenu. So you want to be so you want to be careful because Misha is the great Mishra. You want to that's the they pushed him to the point of he has he has to do it. Right. And and your was more right. So I'm saying it's a this is a this isn't a critique of mu that is a little bit of that's the is there possibly a factor that Mosha spoke to the rock. Okay, whatever. He chose the wrong one. But the rock listen, right? It's the now these people don't have water. They need something to drink. So you do what you have to do if you give them water. But it's not hitting Iraq is not going to work. If it's not working on wants, right? This is all miracles, right? But he tried what told him to do, right? So I what I'm I'm my supposition though Yeshua wouldn't have tried this cuz didn't say hit. He wouldn't have met. He would have gone back to Kadesh. All he's trying to show all is trying to show him that you're accustomed to doing something. when you're accustomed to doing something that you know in you know you're in America you're accustomed to driving on the right side of the road so automatically you get in a car that's where you go right in English you're accustomed to driving the left that's where you go um I guess if an English person visiting yeah you just sort of in your mind you switch it you're driving the right but you're accustomed to taking a certain approach so was accustomed to using a stick but didn't want to take the stick to to use a stick and why would he tell that's exactly why wanted to put him in a position with the true ma comes out so he sees that he's not the right person who wants to understand rather than the girl just dumping the guy and saying I don't want to marry you the girl says you know you're a great guy but I'm not compatible look at my friendships look at how I live my life look at your friendships look at you live we're not going to be a good couple telling that you're not the right leader for this generation and I'm showing you because look how you react your wouldn't have reacted this way so I Not that you're bad, not that you So I want to ask you a question. Let's put aside and talk about other people, all other people. Does Hashem put a person in a position that either does Hashem give a person a test that he cannot um some tests are real tests. This might not have been a test. This might have been just a way of showing Mosher Rabenu who he is. It wasn't a test according to this way. I don't know if I can say that. It's not it's not in the people, not cuz I'm Yeah, I hear that. The leader stands behind the people. If if the leader the people stand in front of them, the leader stands behind as a kid wants to go swimming. You're not going to buy the bone go. It's not like you're not ready to go. Yeah. I think you're saying something excellent. I think it's another good point. I don't like I just have a saying wasn't ready. I'm not wasn't ready. I'm just saying. It's not even Roy. It's it's just he would Is that