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Welcome to Inside Arts Crow, where the
books that we read and the people that
write them come to life. You know,
sometimes in life there's something we
desperately need, a Yeshua, a salvation,
and we dive in and we do all types of
things and we do it for a long period of
time and then it just doesn't happen. It
doesn't come to fruition and we give up
and we learn to live with the reality.
That's what we tell ourselves at least.
And for many people it was that way
until Ades this past year when something
happened that changed the Jewish world
and gave so many people hope that Yeshua
could happen. And that was an incredible
moment. The moment of miracle baby when
Kushvki 88 years old had his very first
child a baby boy. That moment filled the
Jewish world with hope. That moment
filled the Jewish heart with an
understanding that Hashem could do
anything. And it's a pleasure and an
honor to welcome to Artskill Studios Rab
Yeshua Frankenhouse who came here all
the way from Arit Israel to share with
us a little bit about this incredible
book, the book Miracle Baby. Rabbi,
shalom. Shalom. The privilege is mine to
be here with the team at Art Scroll.
Thank you so much for having me. It's
definitely Rab Yeshua, you know, you've
been close to the Rashiva for almost two
decades. You're the Mashki in the
Yeshiva in Rep Kashki's yeshiva. Um
you're a RV of a Kahila and Bamesh
Benalia and you're a busy man. yet you
found time in your schedule to write
this book because clearly it was
compelling to you. Can you do us a
favor? Can you take us into the moment
when the yeshiva, the tamid across the
world found out that after 88 years the
rashiva finally was a
father? Wow, that's a question
definitely to be
honest to do justice to this I can't.
It's like we know anyone who hasn't
seen back in the time of the B
mikdash any anyone who wasn't there and
didn't experience it it's almost
impossible to describe
it. What I can share with you is is that
that special moment that morning when we
all got to hear the exciting
news that moment was a life-changing
moment for all of
us. The
sima began then and I think all the
talidim around the world can say they're
still living off that sim. Was there
singing or dancing in the yeshifa? What
happened?
Was there shock? So there was definitely
a huge element of shock. People were
like amazed. And I have to share with
you not everybody
throughout the time that the Rashiva was
waiting for children believed that was
going to happen. Right?
And those people who perhaps didn't
believe that the Yeshua was actually
going to come and then they they saw it,
they heard about it, they were really
shocked and singing and dancing.
Absolutely. When the Rashiva arrived
back, wow. Wow. That was a
moment never to be forgotten.
You know it's interesting in the book
you also describe the moment after the
birth in the hospital of this incredible
miracle. Everyone in the hospital even
the totally secular staff realized this
was something that was unparalleled
maybe since Aframavinu and Ssara. What
was happening in the hospital? It's so
unique how the rashiva used the first
few moments after becoming a father.
So the Rashiva used those moments, those
first moments not for himself but for
others. Many people would have taken
that special moment just to cherish the
time with yourself with a baby but he
dedicated those moments fully to giving
people brahas to giving
people. The Rashiva mentioned numerous
times that he didn't see the birth of
baby aliu as a matologist for him but
actually as a gift for the entire
generation and you could see that
throughout if it
was by the birth as you were mentioning
yes he was so selfless you know he was
very tired and he was in the highlight
of his life in every sense but he was
giving over to others rather than to
himself but throughout that whole week
the rashi was
giving and giving and giving and those
that know the rah Shiva every every
moment is precious if he can learn
another he's going to do that but he was
giving hours and hours just to
be yeah you you read that you describe
it so beautifully in the book just like
the many facets of the rashiva just
constantly focusing on other people as
opposed to himself what I found
particularly meaningful was that when
the news broke
across the world. The Tamidim literally
felt that they had gotten a new baby
brother. If the rashiva was their
father, then this was a new baby
brother. And you could talk about this
like just came to they just got on a
plane and they came to Israel. like the
yeshiva had to deal with like a whole
influx of it was almost like
a absolutely it was spontaneous
and lots of talim not just from around
there but from England from America
South Africa they they just got on a
plane and said how can we miss our baby
brother's breasts and they came there
and they they really felt they really
felt this was a
father. At the time there was even
consideration that was being spoken
about chartering a full plane from the
UK. There were so many Tomid who wanted
to
come. The tamidum who were
there were telling each other this is a
family sim you know especially the the
the the the suda of the bris which was
you know the closest meeting the actual
bris was you know was thousands and
thousands of people from people looking
for Yeshua and all kinds of other uh
people but that but the suda was you
know much more the talid and the people
close to the raasha it felt like quite
honestly a family reunion that's so nice
that's amazing and it was all around
this incredible
Shim that brought to the world and
that's something that you keep coming
back to over and over in the book and
it's a very compelling read wrote it
very very well just saying thank you the
fact that Shiva keeps saying that this
was not his gift but it was it was a
gift to all of Israel and to me that's
very inspiring because I think that's
why a lot of people just wanted to come
to the sima to be a part of every little
part of the simka because this this this
this experience seeing something like
that just It fills a person with hope,
with amuna, with so to you for writing
an opportunity and a vehicle for us to
get that amuna and um at what point did
it pop into your head that you should
write a book and why
you sorry for putting you on the spot?
That's a great question.
So to be honest by the beginning
when a lot of people were coming to the
raash with questions and
with a desire deep desire to get from
this story the rash was giving a very
lot of his time giving that over and I
was alongside him. I sat next to him and
I was seeing what the rash was saying
and eventually the rash even gave over
to me the task of he said there's a
limit to how much I can do. I've got to
go back to learning and he felt that I
had taken in enough of the and the I was
able to give it over and I gave it over
to quite a lot of people afterwards and
when that happened I felt like if I was
to be alongside the Rashiva by this very
special time and the rasha has a feeling
that I have taken in as a taken in what
he's giving over and the rasha gave so
much of his time because he felt it was
so important to take from this story.
Then I felt that it was my duty, my
obligation, but more than anything my
privilege to go and stand alongside with
the Rash in that mission and continue
spreading the light this book uh
spreads. So, so you you went over to
him, you said, "Is it okay if I write a
book about you and about the situation?"
How did that go? So, it was actually a
lot more than that. It wasn't just can I
write it about you but the Rashiva
actually dedicated many hours sitting
with me reviewing uh reviewing you know
particular chapters reviewing the entire
the entire chapter making changes adding
things um he he he actually gave a huge
amount of time for it and uh likewise
the Revitson she really gave many many
hours and she doesn't have that many
hours because she's juggling a baby a
baby a
yeshiva and so many other things. You
know, she's busy with shim and you you
name it. Read the book, you'll get a,
you know, the tip of the iceberg, as
they say. Uh, how did she find a time
for it? I don't know, but she did. And,
uh, yeah, it was a, you know, it was
very much a a project done together.
It's interesting you say this because
you know growing up all the years I
didn't learn by but the word on the
street for us was that Ritzvi is the
he's the quintessential Masmid he's
always learning I know you read in the
book on a 12-hour flight he never took
his head out of his gar which by the way
turned into a donation but you got to
read the book to to know to know that um
so it's so fascinating to me that the
Rashiva spent so much time with you
reviewing the book and giving to other
people which on some level cuts into his
learning and I guess that's a that he
made that that's you know a calculation
if I have this opportunity I need to use
it has he shared that sentiment with you
absolutely absolutely what was very
striking though was he gave huge amounts
of hours but very very calculated I'll
give you just as an example a lot of
media wanted to interview within that
week those two weeks three weeks And he
was willing to do it with many of the
you of the newspapers and magazines and
different uh you know cav lines. Uh he
did that but he always asked beforehand
who is it what do they want it for? And
whenever it was forget something less
positive whenever it was just someone
coming because it's an interesting story
you know sensation exactly nice coverage
he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't do it. It
was very much making aes and being
what happened in Israel? Did the secular
press pick up on this nace? Did they
turn it and you know was it like a Greg
Kesha? What happened? Do you know? So it
spread throughout Eric
Israel, the Karedi press, the secular
press and actually throughout the world,
even the non-Jewish world. There were
quite a few who found it fascinating and
wrote about it. Can you just give us a
glimpse? Um I know you've been with
Rasheed for so many years, but there's
decades and decades of incredible
amuspay toiling and learning. Tell us a
little bit about the hassada. And now
you know you write in the book about the
Rashiva's intense hmada and diligence
and non-stop learning.
Okay. So as you said that yes there's
quite a bit about that dotted throughout
the book. Um but it's incredible to live
to live through it to
see what it means to be a masmid on that
level.
Every Talmid who was in the yeshiva will
just say something as simple as
havdala shambas the raash would always
do havdal downstairs for his talmid his
children his kundal and he did a nice
slow beautifuld the way you're supposed
to take shabas out sing afterwards uh
the hdahala songs but as he's finishing
the song he's already
running it's seda grabbing his gar
getting
It's not about the big things. It's not
about the stories which we have in there
about a half a year of tiny st or or or
or various other beautiful stories. But
it's a but it's what the Talmidium
really experienced in all those small
moments. There was never a moment moment
which was too small to
and that's how you become a god from
those small moments. Very much big
people focus on the small things like
they say. You know what else was really
interesting to me? Um, the rashiva was
kind of like the figurehead and his
pictures on the front and as is baby Ali
Yahoo, although his face is very Zeiss.
You'll see a lot of great pictures in
the book, but there's a whole another
side to the story and that's the story
of the Rebbitson, which is written very
beautifully in here. Give us a give us a
taste of the Rebbitson's journey and
meeting the Rashiva and eventually being
part of this incredible amazing um nest
and Kim Shamay.
Okay. case as you correctly said justice
will only be done by reading the book
and uh even that I have to say it's you
know it's only touching on a little bit
of what actually is going on over there
but um the rabbitson
actually had a deep shifa to marry a
talim now she ended off hitting the
jackpot getting married to the raasha
but her shifa wasn't getting married to
anyone on famous or wellknown. Hashifa
was one thing getting married to a Tam
who sits and learns Tyra all
day. A lot of us have dreams. We want to
reach
heights and it remains
dreams. By her there was no such thing.
She in every RN and Gashimist way made
it her life mission. She was davening to
Hashem going to Kavarim if it was the
Pvar. Amazing how she she went to the
Pvar and said we all know how the
Pvichar stood there by the mountain
and spoke about doing the impossible and
that's what happened. She
said ponovich of gandavin for
me. Everyone laughed at you when you
were trying to do the impossible and the
impossible happened. And she the
rabbitson was saying I want the same.
And and she she was so practical. If you
look in the book, there's a really cute
picture of her calendar. Wow. Talk about
that. That's that's so amazing.
It was so real by
her that she actually, you know, we
speak about how she was uh she was, you
know, as she calls it, pumped up with a
she had jotted into her
calendar, which is a very msugal day for
getting
married. You know, which is this way
before the whole suggested. Yeah. you
know it was less than two weeks from
when uh you know it was suggested until
they were uh married. Um and this was
way before by her it was real you know
we sometimes believe but yeah it can
happen you know to take a penna right
that shows you're really holding for
sure it's it's real it's real trust it's
real confidence were you by the wedding
of the of the regen I was also an
incredible moment if you're bringing
that up people for quite a while wanted
to see pictures of of the wedding. That
was maybe one picture which went out
round and about and uh when we brought
out this book, the rabbiton graciously
took out the hard drive which um no one
had ever seen before, gave the pictures
and those are the pictures which are in
the book. So it's uh you know got
something very special over there. This
is something that you discussed which to
me was a real eye opener. You know
sometimes in life we dive in and we dive
in and and then the Yeshua comes like we
breathe a sigh of relief finally it
came. It took a lot of years and we look
at those years or we look at those
months or that time period as you know
it was it was a necessary evil to get to
that point but what I realized in
reading the book and you talk about this
in a very nice way is that Shashiva did
not view 60 plus years of dominating for
a child as as as a a necessary evil. He
viewed it very differently. How did he
view it?
So I
actually find this very point the
biggest of the story. The fact that he
had a baby was a
tremendous but the fact that the Rashiva
could say that I see all those 65 years
of waiting as a gift from
Hashem. 65 years of waiting as a gift
from Hashem. and embrace it and say
that's what built my rrookness. That's
what brought me close to
Hashem. That's
incredible. You know, of course that
comes together with all those years of
seeing the rasha actually holding on
tight, seeing the rash and all those
years beforehand actually believing
asking people for brahas for zeros
kayama. You know every you know after
every Yam Davining and various other
occasions singing Zarel Cayama you know
many people would be saying like hello
move on but he he actually believed it
and lived
it and then to say all those years was a
gift. It's very special. I'll tell you
something fascinating. I read I read
that there's one chapter right in the
beginning of the book where the
rabbitson and speaks about how many
feelers were dabbed for this
childhares his pali you know share with
us that concept because I think it's a
very very special concept what's the
word what's the what are the what's the
yiddish term that they refer to for this
child
ah translate
so this is one of those things which is
very difficult to translate because
yiddish captures the uh the the essence
very well but um perhaps I'll just uh
I'll just give an outline of uh of of of
what it means. Um you know, everybody in
life has their
struggles. Sometimes a person reaches
the eventually and they think well all
those years were wasted.
I got my say it's a shak I got my shak a
few years late and the shidd is the same
shiddink he has a a about it we can't
cover the whole piece but he brings from
the story with
uh where
um where basically Hannah realized she
was going to lose a child and a offered
her I'll give you another child even
greater and she wasn't willing to go for
it even So a greater sadic what could be
better and why what was the reason
because for this
child doesn't seem to answer the big
question why are you not willing to have
a different child who's greater
explainer of pinos she was saying
something very
profound if you have a yeshua which you
were waiting for for a long time and
finally you have in your hand that baby
that sha
that or whatever else it is. It's not
the same child. It's not the same. It's
not the same Yeshua. It's something
else. It's a better and of course that's
what Kana was saying. You might give me
another child who will be better and
greater
and whatever. Absolutely. It still won't
replace this child because this
is this is the child which I've been
dabing for. It's a child entrenched with
filler and nothing can replace that. And
of course this is baby aliu. Of course
it's a tremendous Yeshua but at the same
time it's a kint. Um and uh the of
course the message for all of Kalis at
this stage who everyone has their
private uh things they're waiting for
challenges and Yeshua they're waiting
for and of course Khalis as a whole are
waiting for so many Yeshua when we do
get to the Yeshua it's not just waste of
time it's a buildup to having a better
Yeshua that's that's so that gives so
much strength I when I read it I shared
it I shared the with a lot you know,
with a broader audience and a random
Yisha mama reached out to me who has a
daughter who's been going through a very
difficult and deep design for many years
and sometimes like for what she said
when she heard this that this child is
in her child it filled her with so much
because she realized that every day
where she struggles and every tear that
she cries and every capet of him like
she has for this child is investing and
it gave her a lot of hope. filled her
with with you know filled her with a
tikvah a certain understanding that this
child will be okay and they won't just
be okay they're going to be amazing
they're going to be galding maybe better
than the rest of my children so you
don't you don't realize you write a book
and then the impact and effect travels
very far and so for for putting that
together and for sharing it because it
was me I share that further and that's
what's so beautiful about a book a
person picks up a book they read a book
and they could share it further they
could share the story further so buy the
and you'll get the and obviously the
goes further as well. Um, as someone
who's known for a long time, what's
really interesting about this book is
you only have a little tiny snapshot of
the life of a that's really what it is.
And it's interesting because we don't
usually write books about people while
they're alive. We wait
till and then we write about them. But
it's so interesting to learn a little
bit about his earlier years, about his
incredible hass and his due diligence
and the places that he visited. There's
one thing which jumps out at me. I'll
lie to share this if you don't mind even
though you should still buy the book.
And that's that's what happened to him
when he first moved. I think it was to
France and he couldn't sleep for three
nights in a row. Do you know what I'm
referring to? Share that share that
story. It's amazing.
Wow. So the it just brings out how
Rashiva through his his is his his
kadusha. He arrived in the apartment he
was supposed to be staying in and this
was in Fr. He was in France. Yes. Okay.
And uh you know he went to uh he went to
rest, he went to sleep and uh wasn't
falling asleep. Okay. You know it
happens to all of us, right? Back to new
surroundings, right? Okay. So uh sat
there one night but it happened again
and again. It was repeating itself and
the Rashiva actually made the people go
and check the you know the entire house.
He said I feel there's something not
cades. I feel there's something tummy
and people checked in the house you know
from top to bottom and they couldn't
find anything there. So they were saying
Rashiva Tazov you're not falling asleep
because you're not falling asleep but it
wasn't matter and uh he made them search
again until eventually they found
somewhere within that house tale. They
removed the talem and he felt and right
away he was able to fall asleep without
any problems. Is that a surprising story
for you as someone who knows Rashiva or
it's absolutely not amazing um because I
I I see it I I've seen it numerous
numerous times again it's an inspiring
story but the Rashiva sees on different
talum things which we you know we as
staff in the yeshiva like don't see and
we're wondering like how do you know
that and it seems to be exactly the
opposite to the mitsas and uh then you
So a few weeks later we get to see that
he was so super right. He was so uh
target you know this isn't something
which happened once or twice. This
happens all the time. It happened
throughout the years and it keeps on
happening. Um if it's in the yeshiva and
we see it you know the rashiva has a
particular insight into many many areas.
um you know we saw during COVID there
were many surprises during COVID not he
knew what was going to happen you know
every everyone was sure there was going
to be her immunity and and he said eh
it's all going to stay the
same and that's what happened and
various you
know yes the answer is it doesn't s
surprise me the slightest h have you um
ever held baby Ilio plenty of times what
does that feel
It feels amazing, but nothing like
standing on the side and seeing the
Rosha play with his uh baby alo and his
face filling with simka like we've never
seen it before. And he's a person who
expresses his sim. It's not like if this
is a new sentiment. Yeah. It's it's you
know when I you know when I'm sitting by
the rashiva you know if it's we're
talking and learning if we're working
through inhiva and you know and and he's
got his his baby is b next to him and he
turns around and he you know and he sees
the baby playing and he just smiles at
the baby and the baby smiles back you
know your heart
melts your eyes begin tearing it's it's
it's incredible. Wow, that's very
special. Um, you know, as a Talmud or as
Tamidum of great people, those who have
this have it. We all have our moments
which we remember about the rashiva. Is
there a particular story or something
personal moment about your journey with
the risha that you would want to share?
Maybe even something that's not in the
book. So, this could be the sneak
preview on maybe volume two. Wow. Okay.
So, you're getting me a little bit on
the spot. That's correct. Uh, I will
share one uh one story, you know, with
its simplicity. It's, you know, it's
truly amazing. Gave me a little bit of a
view into how the
Rashiva cares and
has into each and every
Talmid. Um, when the Rashiva lost his
first rabbitson, it was a tremendously
sad uh moment. You know, every time a
person loses his spouse, it's a sad
moment. But if you take into account
that he was waiting to have children, he
was still desperate to have children. Uh
and he was left basically alone in the
world, you know, his closest relatives
being his siblings. Um
so that was, you know, that was a very
sad moment. And of course, every Talmud
goes and calls Dash Shiva to be a during
the Shiva, after the Shiva, whatever it
might be. I at that time was actually
dating and uh I got engaged basically at
the time when the rashiva lost his uh
rebbitson. So I kind of had to make a
phone call
of but then also let the rash know that
I was
a how do you do that right not a moment
I think anyone would uh envy correct um
so the first level of godlas was when I
called the rash shiva it was just after
the shiva he took the nama and put the
phone down I don't know but I'm assuming
he knew or he could sense something and
just cut it short for me
M the rash afterwards it was for PES he
came to England to Manchester and uh of
course as a Talmud who was living at the
time in Manchester I came in and he was
in a particular house of a relative and
the you know the the room was full of
Talmid and I came in a little bit
embarrassed timid yeah I'm everyone
knows I'm a Kassan I couldn't even break
the news to the rash after it happened
what's going to be and I came in And I
stood at the back, you know, like let's
keep out of uh, you know, the spotlight.
And Rashiva gave me a massive smile.
Again, I'm one of a hundred all the way
at the back. Massive smile. I says, "Oh,
masletov." And, you know, totally
forgetting about his s making sure one
talmid isn't going to feel awkward even
for one moment. And you didn't even have
to tell him. In other words, he he
acknowledged that he knew and he's
excited and you're okay. Yeah. And and
twice save me any uncomfortable moments.
And if you take into account the amount
of tidim he has, that's remarkable.
That's godless. That's greatness. The
book miracle baby, you should buy it.
You should read it. You should get Rab
Yeshua, thank you for sharing this for
with the greater the greater taking your
experiences and putting them um into
this phenomenal amazing book. You should
have a lot
of and thank you so much for making the
long trip all the way here. I'm
confident that people that watch this
interview are going to be very inspired
by the book and thank you for the gift
of Clau.
Thank you for having me and spreading
the light. Father.
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