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Origin of Yeshu/Jesus In The Torah PART 2 Extra Sources

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[Music] so now continuing you already see that the gar of the worst punishment matches the New Testament why it says Jesus himself says I am in Gom forever in in poop that's boiling lava of poop forever why I went against the rabbis you look at his book regardless of who wrote it everyone follows it there's 200,000 versions of it all agree he went against the rabbis already you have something it sounds kind of the same already sounds kind of the same now you have yourself a another thing you have this mishna this week's mishna this week's mishna say connect this and how we show proving that it's all falsehood this Mish 48 continuation from 47 we did 47 yesterday obviously it's it's not planned you see see here it says rabi says whoever honors the Torah is himself honored by people whoever disgraces the Torah is himself disgraced by people so simple translation here is that whoever honors the Torah whoever honors the rabbis whoever honors whoever honors Hashem Hashem will lead people to love him the world around him will love him why you're showing a you showing Hashem love he showing his firstborn son's love the world around you will show you love on the other hand you show AEM hate you show his children hate you desecrate his children you desecrate his Torah the world around you will hate you this is by definition the beginning and the end of Jesus by definition what did he do he went against the he went against the sages what ended up happening the world around them hated him they crucified him they killed him they abused him and even till this day he's insulted on a regular basis by his own people so that's first thing second thing is how is this connected it all depend we learn who is r RI himself is a proof of this other thing lived in Usha he used to process hides aside from being as a sa he used to process hides and he lived at the time of RAB AKA and he was the student of RAB AKA right at the time where the Roman Empire had the emperor Hadrian or Hadrian in English aanus in Hebrew and this is when they killed R AA they shaved his skin off and instead of complaining to God what he do his left his body on sanctifying aem's name until the last moment of his life when he was getting butchered up by these his student said them you could say the you could say the name of you kill everybody here why are you letting this happen he's 120 years old why you dealing with with so much pain he says my whole life I've been trying to fulfill the mitvah that I say every day my whole heart I gave my money I gave my life I never gave and I was worried my whole life I'm never going to be able to give my life for hem now I finally have a chance after 120 years and you want to ruin it for me till the last moment of his life this sadik that got to the 50th level the highest level of highest level of sanctifies hm's name JC Penny what does he do when they crucified him complains to God why' you leave me wait a minute didn't you guys just say he's God what he leave himself he left himself where he leave himself in the bathroom what happened where' you leave me how you complaining about yourself and if you're not yourself if you're a mashia how dare you complain about God well you don't know that there's something called you don't know there's such a thing that hem everything is for the good what happened so herei lived at this time why is this important when RI lived that he was the student of R AKA that he was living at the time of Hadrian why why is this so important because RI was the author according to in page 82 of a book called has two parts look at the here says the the yesu mentioned in thear that's the student of yes is the yes that got am is to leave God same one same one who rosi it's almost like you would think I planned this guy making a video about me now maybe you think maybe this is only one opinion because what the Christian Church says Christian Church says no it can't be the student of Yeshua Ben par like this Kaz said it can't be the student of R Yeshua B why he says lived almost 200 years before historical records say that Jesus lived cuz Jesus lived at the time of Adrian here's the problem R lived at the time of Adrian so you're going to tell him who he saw who he didn't see he actually lived there if Yeshua Jesus whatever you want to call him Shu call him whatever you want G if he lived he would have known hey this guy walked on water hey this guy I don't know caught some fish this guy uh sold candy this guy got whatever you would have known hey yesma how are you what's going on you telling hey what's up high five something you should do chuva something says I was alive I wrote a book in the book it's historical records historical records of what happened at the time of Ain yeshu nowhere to be found nowhere to be found there are only two places that talk about yeshu New Testament like I said 70 to 300 years after he died and no newspaper wrote about him no Journal no little baby that wrote a report you know they ask little kids in school who is your idol ABA is my idol the baseball player is my idol the uh I don't know Smurfs are my Idols no one said no one wrote a little school report Jesus that walked on water according to their uh nonsense he's my ID no one said it no one wrote anything now you have you live in Florida there's I don't know there's Sports there's different camps and so on if a little baseball team Little League team seven eight nine 10 year old kids they play a game there's some newspaper that will write about this game in the grand scheme of the world this game is not really important no one really cares about the game other than the parents really but some newspaper will make a big deal enough of this game and will write it in a newspaper and if the game is a championship game between two towns or two cities or two countries they may even go on the national news even though it's a game for 10-year-old kids right somebody will write about it someone will write a journal about it a newspaper article about it something so you would think if the Messiah arrived or God in human form arrived someone would write about it sh wrot sh they wrote about someone would write about it at the time something a journal a letter uh love you note a news something a show I know a reality show or something it is a reality show a woman named Mary cheats on a husband but fakes it says that God made her pregnant instead I don't know something something something would happen nothing why only record is in so okay talks about it tells you who he is no they don't want you no no no it's not him it's not him what do you mean it's not him they lived at that time that's the only record no no there's other sages that say it's someone else so let's see what the sages actually say now the story goes as as follows at the time of King yanai he killed many many and Shimon Ben sh's sister was actually King yanai's wife and she sent a letter to say that things have calmed down Yeshua who was Jesus's Rabbi fled to Alexandria of Egypt with his students but after things calm down Shimon sent him a letter and told yeshu that things have Cal down you can come back so on the way he stopped at a is like a hostel like a cheap hotel and he says he was hosted very nicely respected and he says to the student sitting next to him Jesus what a nice B such nice people they hosting us with kavod it's very nice Jesus says he thinks he thought that Yeshua kesim holy of holies is talking about how good she looks instead of saying oh it's nice that they're hosting us nicely meaning it's etiquette manners you have to have it especially this Yeshua over here thinks that he's actually talking about how good she looks or how bad she looks so what does he say no what are you talking about she's ugly she has round eyes meaning like she looks like a sheep who is he say this to to his Rabbi Rabbi says Wicked This is what you do this is what you occupy your time with looking at women this is what you've learned from me and he kicks him out he kicks him out Jesus tries to come back first two times he comes back yesu rejects him to see that it's authentic chv the third time he comes back yesu was planning to accept him but he was in the middle ofma as you know say you're not allow to stop not allowed even if there's a snake climbing your leg you're not have to stop K and start talking to people snake goes around your leg to stop you have to continue kma so of course if a t over here wants to say a uh you know something you're not going to stop kma so what does he do he tells him like this with his hand like wait a second without saying anything wait Jesus was too egotistical to wait he thought that he's rejecting him again and he says okay I'm going da against the I'm going against the Pharisees he called them Pharisees kazal he called the the sages Pharisees I'm going to go against them what is he going to do he's going to start getting people to follow him and he started doing it he started using sorcery and different magic to get people to follow him became a baba now yeshu thought about it he says you know what he's still a Jew let me go save him he humbled himself even more and he went to Jesus he says come back it says page 47 says I learned Jesus says to says I learned from you that once somebody becomes a once you lead people astray you become you lead other people to go against God you have no more Chua and he left he didn't want to do Chua it's not not really true meaning what the actual lesson is what the Torah says not that there's no CH is that you once you become once you become a mean that uh gets other people to go against God you don't get help from Heaven to do chuva you could always do Chua but you don't get the that a regular sinner would make just once he wants to do do CH cha is always accepted just a matter of you not going to get the extra help from hasem which means going to become much more difficult to do chuva but Yeshua yeshu Jesus whatever you want to call him he didn't listen to the rest of the sh he just listened to the first part so he left so now these messianics don't want you to believe this is the same yesu so already we have this m verifies the same yesu same one let continue in uh on 103A gives commentary on Psalm 90 verse 10 and they say may your son never be like the son may you never have a son or a that spoils his own cooking in public like yes says say uh this commentary on this PUK is that may you know the make sure you always pray that you never have a son or a talid that ruins everything that gets other people to sin like yesu the it's says it in a also it says may we never have a student that spoils his own work like yes 17b so here we're talking about this yesu is this yeshu the same one the we talked about that wrote the Kari that had the debate with the Muslim guy with the Christian guy won the debate he writes in M number three s 65 in the Kari says yeshu his student was yeshu it's the same yeshu that started Christianity this is 900 years ago already you have Source number two much closer than anyone in recent history that says otherwise continue his son sonov it says in to on Shabbat page 104 B yesu was the Yeshua student the yeshu that started Christianity this is again almost 900 years ago in it says the founder the foundation of Christianity started in in the days of Yeshua parak due to his student yesu again one of the greatest Minds that ever lived but he was also very familiar with Christian Christianity how was he familiar with Christianity what was his job he was the treasurer of the king of Spain when during the Spanish Inquisition when they killed us and kicked us out for being Jews after we won the debate they didn't like it so losers indeed in a commentary on the Book of Daniel he wrote a book called May Yeshua 10 8 he says the following many are trying to fool the People by saying that yesu that's in the talmud who was the student of Yeshua parak is not the same yeshu from Christ Christianity how could those fools of today who were not there at the time tell our Sages who saw with their own eyes what happened now he's saying this while he has the Spanish people trying to kill us he doesn't care why if there was ever a time to lie this would be the time save yourself no save no nothing this is the truth don't qu the truth don't be politically correct the want to kill us die don't make it like the t is different than what it is why in a letter printed in Oxford 5448 he says the following I did an intensive investigation and calculation of the Christian calendar and whether it began with the birth of that person meaning yeshu and I confirmed it's a big mistake the Christian calendar is a mistake they claim that their calendar started with his birth or death has no connection whatsoever yesu was in the days of Yeshua parak and I confirmed this with Christian Scholars the Christian Scholars of his day says yeah yeah you're right this calendar that they have is wrong because Yeshua their Yeshua their Jesus lived almost 200 years before 150 years before their calendar the Christian calendar has no root or Foundation 3:32 it says yesu that was the was Yeshua yeshua's student and what the Christians are saying about him being born at the time of hus meaning hadrien is completely false it was well over 100 years later meaning 150 years later same exact time frame as we said RAB confirmed it in which is nearly 2,000 years ago at the time so we have not just proofs from 500 years ago 800 years ago 900 years ago we've proofed them 2,000 years ago at the time this is supposed to be happening people that I witness it Oxford 648 p part one page 196 it says yesu died well over a 100 years before the destruction of the BET mikdash and he was the S the same student of yesu mentioned in in says the historians write that yeshu was the student of Yeshua in the days of King yanai which was over 110 years earlier than the Christians say that he was born but but the truth is in our hands the truth is in our hands as the mishna has not changed and there's many many many others that say the same there are a few that say otherwise but the predominant opinion overwhelming majority of the opinion of the sages it's the same issue same thing same thing now the ones that have a different opinion also have a different sh of who he was at all there's about a handful of different opinions of who he was TOS writes that the yesu is different than the ones that are mentioned in s than in but both were they use sorcery and led other Jews to become to to sin both also agrees says there was two different yesu mentioned in the but both were doesn't help them whether it's this one or it's that one they're both Wicked they're both in Gom forever it makes no difference but then there's the one that they're probably going to try to hold on to the debate the famous debate by R had a famous debate with a heretic called Nikolas this is written in page and did everything possible to prove that the yesu that's mentioned in is not the same yesu at all the yesu of Christianity is not even mentioned in Judaism not mentioning Judaism at all why why is he not mentioning at all because if you look at the history and what happened at the time Nik was trying to pass a decree to kill all the Jews for killing their God for killing their Masia so to save the entire people we have to use our brain we how we going to say you can't you can't run away in time we can't fight them what are we going to do says I'll tell him it's not the same guy what you going tell me otherwise it's our Torah you're going to tell me who it is I can decide who it is they don't know how to read Hebrew they don't know anything so he's not arguing that it's not the same guy because it's not the same guy he's arguing because he's trying to save our life he's trying to save millions of people p changed the whole thing of you shabbat is on hold for p so here you see that the overwhelming majority of the sources indeed prove this is need the same one there's no mistake about it yes yeah I heard that JC Ken Ken Ken we'll get to that we'll get to that we'll get that we'll get to that we'll get to that we'll get to that thank you so now you see from here that this guy same guy same guy there is another opinion another opinion he didn't exist at all the opinion he didn't exist at all because there no record of him other than thear and if they're saying it's not the same guy then he didn't exist there's no record of him existing that's another opinion another opinion is actually that he's called Ben Ben is a much more interesting story why he writes in pic in in the foot notes here he writes the whole story of Ben that this used to be part of the but the Christians took away everything so it's mentioned Jesus is mentioned the but if you look at the English translation of G is not mentioned his name is not in there AR is not in there in some Hebrew he's in there some not all why because the church put a knife to our neck and said if you don't remove it we're going to kill you so the question is if it's not the same guy what do you care if it's not the same guy that's boiling in a uh in a in a uh in feast es right now in a Jacuzzi offes what do you care if he's in myar it's not the same guy what do you care why would you sanction us why would you put a sword to our neck why would you kill us why would you chase us why would you torture us for some guy that's not the same guy why because the same name you know how many people have the name yob you know how many people have the name you know many people have the name Yeshua there's a lot of people so just because we use the same name why there is another reason another reason is because many believe that this very same one very same one is either also Ben or Ben is the real one either way it's also not good why Ben why is it called Ben says Ben was the son of maram Magdalene in Hebrew it's called Uh magd which is the same thing who used to be married to one of theim by the name of papus Bena papus Ben Yuda Pap Ben was a big but he was a jealous husband so he did not allow Miram to leave the house so when he would leave he would lock her in the house and kazal says this was not the right thing to do you're not allowed to do that you made a mistake this led her astray meaning gave her an excuse to want to run out but what happened she met a boyfriend we talk to her like the story of Rome and Juliet from the window says Miriam Miriam when are you going to come down one day on Yip says one day yum papus leaves to go pray this boyfriend called Panda his name was Panda calls Miriam he says Miriam Miriam how long you going to be locked in want to come with me she runs away with them and she gets pregnant on she gets pregnant now what happens to a woman in Judaism a Jewish woman that not only goes with a but is married it's called death penalty to avoid death penalty what do they do they invented a story God made me pregnant the Jew bought it the Jews bought it only the ignorance bought it the point is that's the story that's P so so so this P um Ben was named after the mother after the the mother that's called a s she was a s why because he was a m m is son of a woman that cheated on a husband so that's another opinion says that that's that's yes either way he could still be also yeshua's student or not either way all opinions is not good he didn't have anys right that I don't know that I don't know it's possible yes possible no who knows all I know have kids no you can have of course he can have kids physically but as far as his kids they have to marry other or converts but I uh has nothing to do what we're talking about just kill her she who just killing the the Jewish people after she she know that she cheated on the husband they didn't buy the ran away way so now you have yourself quite a bit of information here that is overwhelming amount of information proving sorry um proving that yes my friends the negative opinion about Jesus it's in is indeed the same Jesus let's not fool ourselves to think otherwise it is indeed the same person [Music] [Applause] [Music] no a [Music]