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Can Jewish People Attend Non KOSHER Events (Superbowl, office parties etc.)

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Rabbi Yaron Reuven avatar
Rabbi Yaron Reuven

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[Music] what happens if somebody has it works for a company and they're having an event they're having an event uh and uh and he can eat but he chooses not to eat is it still okay okay so now you have to understand this question has multiple parts to it first and foremost is the place kosher the place not the food is the place kosher meaning you can sometimes have a meeting I remember in New York I had a uh I tried keeping kosher at least to my understanding even since I was a kid so I remember the first client meeting I ever had first client meeting I ever had it was with the guy David Taylor from Texas and David Taylor came to visit me from Texas and he brought his Entourage with him David tell was a former Banker in bank one and and Bank of America and so on very very success uccessful Guy and um really nice guy we did business for many years together and but the first time I ever met him he brought up people with him and uh he told me listen wherever we want to go we'll meet you so I wanted to go to a fancy schany restaurant so I picked a fancy schany restaurant only problem is the fancy schy restaurant wasn't kosher now what did I do I had a little bit of money so I said to another fancy SMI restaurant that's actually kosher I said I want you to give me a steak to deliver it to my fancy schy restaurant and I told the fancy schy restaurant it's not kosher to accept the steak and serve it to me with them and I thought this was okay was okay why they're giving me a plate everybody has their food they're ordering their steak with uh you know each steak is a zillion dollars and with the shrimp and with a gar fish and I have a kosher steak in tin for it look like a lunch money like my my wife just made it for me but whatever I'm this young guy I think it's okay technically it's okay as far as I ate Kosher meat but it's not allowed why is it not allowed because the place is not Kosher now had I been a religious Jew at the time I would have known this why because any Jew walking out or in that sees me in the non- kosher place by default thinks that the place is kosher why because he's not going to look for signs oh where's the kosher sign where's the kosher sign he's not going to look for the kosher sign he says there's the kosher Jew there's a kosher Jew inside a non kosher restaurant that means the restaurant is kosher he's the certificate he's a certificate he doesn't know that I got a steak from different restaurant and it's in tint foil he doesn't know all that stuff he's not looking at my plate and even if he looks at my plate he just think just maybe just something from the you know he doesn't know anything he doesn't know what I did so I become the kosher stamp that's that's a problem so if the place itself is not Kosher under no condition are you allowed to go in there even if you're not eating forget about eating eat even if you bring your own sandwich you're not let to eat that not allow why because you become the koser certificate and you have to take on the burden that anyone that in essence looks at you and decides to eat at that place not just that day any other time in their life six months later five years later they're going to eat at that place because they remember they saw bet eat here so it must be bet who in their right mind is ever going to think bet is sitting in a nonos place betella certificate so now you have yourself a problem why every single time the guy eats there he thinks it's kosher his wife thinks it's kosher the kid thinks it's kosher their friends now think it's Kos there a whole Entourage of people that Satan brought to this restaurant because they saw bet in the restaurant five years ago you have a problem so already place not Kosher not allowed to enter that's one two if the place is kosher and the food is kosher second question is is the environment kosher meaning is this going to be an immodest place so now if let's say you have a brother sister cousin parent Uncle neighbor best friend boss whoever invites you to an event where there's going to be immodesty especially if there was going to be mixed dancing it's it's better you die and don't end up don't go there why because it's considered the same thing as actually being in in in intimate with these people why because that's what happens after the place you become a partner to it again some people don't like to hear this some people don't agree with it but that's what Al is what are they going to tell me no no but my Rabbi came to my uh my daughter's wedding and there was mix dancing there was break dancing mix dancing UND dancing the rabbi was there too he was sitting there with the other rabbis they were all on the same table they didn't dance but they were there so that means it's koser no no it just means they're part of the sin all it means they're part of the sin that's all it means doesn't mean it's kosher so to go to a place where there's immodesty you're not allowed to go part three so this means that many of the people that call themselves religious before we go to part three many of the people that believe that they're religious that have these parties themselves forget about attending them there's some people that I know that consider themselves very religious the kids go to Yesa they learn tah every day the parents learn toah even wear but when they go and they have the party of their own all of a sudden all bets are off all of a sudden the star the scarf is replaced by wig it's a party how could I show up to a party with a uh with a you know with with anything less than a 3T long wig come on everyone's going to make fun fun of me so hasem is in their life up to a point up to a point when there's an event hm's not there at home in the laundromat at the supermarket he's there so we wear K but at the party we put a wig on so already you see there's a problem then you see oh no we believe in the Tor until comes to our own personal party how we going to have a party without dancing how we going to have a party with the wife and the the bride and groom not dancing everyone has to look at them how can we have a party without the father and the daughter dancing come on it's AAG it's a this meag is bigger than they start creating their own laws so unfortunately this brings a lot of a lot of disasters to you see that many people many people that had major disasters in their life unfortunately these things preceded it just a reality you want to go write blogs about me you want to hate me you want do whatever you it doesn't make a I didn't write the law you want to write go deal with God you want to go blame me for it that I was I was at fault for it so so that's the second thing in regards to modesty and where to attend where not to attend last but not least what's the point what is the point of you attending that's the point that's the third third is what what is the outcome what is the point of you attending now if it's a business meal and it's just a corporate now if you don't attend if you don't attend are you going to lose your job if not then you have to evaluate what's the benefit of going because now there's no loss of not going what's the benefit of going are you going to get a raise no are you going to what what's going to happen out of it is that time the Hour 2 hours 3 hours 4 hours 5 hours 6 hours of wasting your life in this party eating with a bunch of people that you may or may not like wasting your lifetime your spiritual lifetime doing this is that worth it is you're going to go TOA one day say hey hello how are you how are you how was everything okay this is the you could have gotten this is what you got wait it's two different things oh yeah that's the six hours remember the six hours you spent once a month that's the difference that's the difference you remember you used to six hours remember used to go to the party it was closer Party it was closer people but that's different it's different not saying G just saying it's different so what's the point of you going there is there a benefit is there a loss if there's a loss obviously that has to go into consideration if there is because it's again it becomes T it becomes you're wasting Torah time so you have to evaluate all these things assuming the first things are first two are pass assuming it's a kosher Place kosher food kosher environment and so on still you have to evaluate why why am I going there and I can tell you personally I mean I have many students that invite me to events and it's sad for me but I don't want to go so I try to be busy all the time because I always have an excuse I'm not lying I don't want to go to a wedding I don't want to go to a bar mitzah I don't want to go to any of these why it's not because I have anything against them specifically and I'm not even is not a kosher party I'm sure if they're by students if they listen to anything I say it's going to be a kosher party but I don't want to go why I rather you even if it's a koser event and a kosher food and a kosher everything I still don't want to go why I rather spend time doing something else i' rather help come back to hem I rather learn T help my own i' rather do other things than sit there you know like a you know nothing sitting there for three hours and I don't know looking at people not for me it's not my idea fun so if you like me don't invite me you could tell me listen you could come if you want to give the the respect whatever you want to do for your own conscience or something like that you don't have to even for that but you like me don't invite me what tell me you study or you want invite me for I'll come for I'll give you sh at your wedding or your party or whatever you want but other than that I don't want to dance I don't want to party I want to get to struggling with that so spending the three six hours in uh in weddings and parties is not going to help me it's my opinion [Music]