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Anusim Conversion Scandals Exposed

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Rabbi Yaron Reuven

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[Music] what about anusim and that they are using DNA and looking up genealogy of the past generation but have no real proof that they are hidden Jews what do the main poske say on this there is no main pusim there is all of the pusim all of the pusim that are real Pim that the world consider considers as real Pim throughout all of the generations will tell you you cannot determine somebody's Jewish status based on their DNA for multiple reasons number one because there is Tech technology available today to alter a DNA so anyone can have a DNA test and that DNA test can be altered I know that many people don't know this they think wow oh DNA that's uh no no you can alter a DNA okay that's number one for criminal purposes for other purposes and so on second of all that's not what the Ala says the Ala does not say that you could prove somebody's Judaism based on DNA the the way that you prove somebody's Judaism is either based on who their mother is and her mother is and so on their lineage it has to come from the mother not the father according to our tah you have to if your mother is Jewish uh Jewish because her mother is Jewish and and it goes all the way back to the original source of Judaism then you are Jewish no matter what your father is your father could be a non-jew a Jew it could be a donkey it could be a chandelier doesn't make a difference your mother's Jewish you're a Jewish that's option number one option number two is you convert convert to Judaism if you go to a bed a a kosher bedin an orthodox bedin where all of the Dian are Orthodox meaning if you have one Orthodox Rabbi and two reformers or two uh a atheist or two missionary Christians or or something like that then obviously you don't have a bed it has to be uh kosher diim three kosher rabbis there's obviously one main one that has to be the other two should just be kosher Jews but or they could be obviously but the point being is is that it has to be an orthodox bed that goes through a legitimate conversion process which means that a person has to uh be to accept all of the of the Tora uh at that moment they have to accept on themselves shab to forsake idolatry uh the kosher laws modesty and so on and so forth they have to accept the old t on themselves what the stuff they know and the stuff that they don't know they have to accept everything on themselves they have to uh uh if they're male they have to be circumcised with a kosher circumcision and they have to dip in a mik if they're female there's no circumcision she dips in a mikve uh when she doesn't have the uh the the monthly cycle uh and uh uh and that's it she they become Jewish and uh they observe the mitv but if a person wants to uh uh say oh my ancestors my grandmother's cousins andun Uncle you know they are all from you know the uh Spanish Inquisition they we theim we accepted we read these books we saw these TV shows we saw a Discovery Channel we have a cousin and his aunt and his grandmother and their neighbor all agreed that we all come from that particular nightmare that happened over there great that's all fantastic thank you very much for the story we appreciate it that's not Jewish law Jewish law does not work on stories doesn't work that way you could be Jewish either because you have proof that your mother is Jewish not by DNA by the way there actual documentation that proves that they're Jewish the birth certificate the synagogue that they were part of and so on and so forth or you convert to Judaism the truth is even if somebody has documented proofs including a DNA test that's useless altogether and they go to a real bed in is or or otherwise it's a real bedine that's a recognized bed they say listen what do you think you accept my uh you accept my Judaism they tell you listen I accept or don't accept doesn't really make up a difference but Society is not going to accept it Community is not going to accept it and the truth is even if they accept it today they might may not accept your kids in the future bottom line is you need to do a at the very least what's a g it's a conversion same like a regular conversion to eliminate the doubt meaning that if you really are Jewish based on all of this documentation that you have then the conversion is nothing it counts for nothing it's just a uh to eliminate the doubt that anybody else would have but if you really aren't Jewish then now you are Jewish after this conversion but either way you'll have to do the conversion anyone that's trying to dodge the conversion is a person that is a problem and those problem types of people either eventually break and they eventually cave in and they realize uh that they have to convert or they just continue being a problem and fulfill what the gar says uh in uh about uh problem converts are considered like a skin disease for so it's important for a person to know whether they have documents or they don't have documents in most cases today unless you have a proof of lineage that is direct that is you know that's that's no uh indisputable that I'm not talking about 500 years ago I'm talking about your mother your your grandmother and so on and so forth you have proof that these people are Jewish you're going to have to go through a conversion you're going to have to go through a conversion if you don't want to go through a conversion then that means you don't want to be Jewish why because the conversion whether you're Jewish or not Jewish is simply stating the obvious of things that you need to do anyway which means that if you really want to be Jewish it doesn't really make a difference how you get to that point meaning whether you're going to go to the conversion or your uh uh or otherwise that shouldn't bother you why cuz all the you need to do are the same thing oh no but it's insulting that if I'm really Jewish to go to conversion why is it insulting it actually shows that you're clueless about what converts are anybody that thinks it's insulting for them to go through a GU through a conversion shows that really they're probably not Jewish or they're just clueless or both why because if you really aren't Jewish then of course you need to eliminate that doubt and you know that the significance of how important it is for a person to not be into married now if you are Jewish then you should be happy that the Jewish world is strong enough and strict enough to force people to confirm their Judaism in order to eliminate any doubts that are you know that are people can't see and in order to make sure that the kids turn out Jewish and either way if you are a uh going to end up being a a convert a real convert that means that you are actually considered higher than a natural-born Jew according to the to the Sages that's according to the Tora a convert is considered higher spiritually than a natural born Jew so the point being is that all of these people that are trying to dodge this conversion uh and they go to all types of uh uh you know strange institutions that are really after the uh them in one way or another either they're after them for their money or they're after them for the social status and recognition and or or simply to to revolt like this one institution that has some uh uh people on there that are not exactly ideal types of rabbis for some reason or another they also uh put my uh shim a couple of my shim on their website I'm not really U sure if I wanted them to take it off or not because on one end even though I know there have a few that are part of this organization I figured it may be better for people to actually see the couple of videos they have of mine on the website because perhaps it's going to help those people that are really looking for the truth see the truth and do cha and leave this organization and and and actually learn real tah but on the other hand it's a important for people to know that anyone that is trying to help people avoid the traditional alic system which is to go to a recognized real bedine to go to a conversion either because it's necessary by default because there's simply not enough proof for for person to be Jewish or simply it's to eliminate a saf anyone that's helping you avoid that process or streamline that process that's not recognized by the great rabbis of am is today and in past Generations that is a wicked organization stay away from them because if you are part of them you'll be punished with them just like mosenu said to is stay away from these Wicked people he was referring to kak and his uh and his followers stay away from these Wicked people lest you be punished alongside with them just for being next to them so a person needs to know if they really want to be Jewish it doesn't matter where they came from they could come from a world where they were Christian Idol worshippers their whole life and their father was a reverend and a priest I actually have some students that they uh they uh abandoned their father's uh uh church and today are living as Jews and and and and having a Jewish Family B and uh actually got to the point where I think even the uh the parents are no longer practicing Christians or at least one of them and I have several of those that literally people that came from the church itself not just people that were born Christians but people that literally had a church were church family after they recognize the truth they abandon everything and Bash they're living as real Jews today some in Israel some in America some in England some in different places but the key is to understand is that people that seek the truth and want the truth should not have any problem whatsoever with going through a conversion a formal real conversion to a real bedine and and and simply go through whatever needs to happen in order to be juice but people that are trying to avoid that streamline it get some type of uh uh uh spiritual or financial discount in order to get a shortcut or some other form these are problem people these are problem people if you understood the value of being a Jew you would not be looking for a shortcut You' be willing to pay a premium but unfortunately many people are looking for all types of shortcuts and every single one that I have ever met that went that route that did not want to stick through the ride did not want to go through the traditional system and ended up going through some type of shortcut bashem protected me from those people but every single one of them has turned into a problem has had problems some have done chuva and came back and I helped them some unfortunately are still living a problem I can tell you stories from here to next year year I had a couple I uh inspired them they were intermarried inspired them to do CH I told I started helping them with the uh guiding them to the conversion one day some Wicked person ended up uh speaking to them and convincing them to do it differently to do it faster to do it this to do it that they ended up uh disconnecting from me and they went a different route went a different route I tried warning them I tried talking to them but unfortunately it was to no avail only a few years passed before we realized that uh there's a very serious problem What's the serious problem the problem is that the bed that they went to the bedine that they went to was a bedine of Christian missionaries but they simply didn't know that there was Christian missionaries okay one was a Jew and two were complete go this is anybody's been following for a long time knows the whole story from Arizona so we had one person like this one couple like this after that they did Chua got a real conversion we helped them whatever we could and they're now living a perfectly Jewish life but only after a lot of pain that was unnecessary unnecessary another one we had a uh a family uh parent with a couple of kids going with helping them uh they decide no they're going to go to some other uh Rabbi that's going to spear you know that's uh you know that going to streamline it make it faster make it this make it that he's been doing conversions for a long time okay you want to do it do it do whatever you want I'm not going to stop anybody from doing whatever they want I'm not I'm not getting paid for this anyway do whatever you want I'm telling you this is not the way you don't want to do it do what you want they went that way no problem still whenever they wanted any guidance I would help them whatever they want what ended up happening what ended up happening is that the daughter wanted to get married she got she got to the guy guy's religious she's religious everybody's religious they get to the uh final stage the uh rabbis ask okay let us see your conversion papers see the girl's conversion papers we're sorry we're not going to accept his conversion papers why not it's a real Rabbi it's a real bedine we're not going to accept these conversion papers you have to convert again and not only that your family has to convert again we have to make sure your whole family is real so literally they wouldn't marry the girl nice young girl everything is good she's living a Rel religious life no one would marry her no one would marry her even though the guy's ready she's ready everybody's ready the rabbi said you're not going to fine we're going to make sure nobody's going to make you marry you with these conversion papers no one's going to marry why but the guy that the rabbi's been doing conversion for a long time doesn't make a difference we have uh doubt about everything we don't want it no one's going to marry you no one's going to do the wedding for you you could go to reform but this guy's obviously F he's a Orthodox Jew I think it was a kabik even anyway what happened they literally had to go to the embarrassment and pain and expense and everything of the whole family has to be convinced to do the whole conversion again that already took place three four five six years before that they already felt like they were Jewish already for five years the whole thing all over again and then they go Rabbi you were right okay I was right this is I'm not uh I'm not keeping count of how many times I'm right I don't want to be right about these things but unfortunately I know so they have to go through the whole thing all over again and I have stories from here till next year from here till next year about these stories with converts and so on people don't understand these anusim if you want to be Jewish go to a real Jewish Community with a real recognized bed go to a recognized conversion live a Jewish life and the end stop it with this document searching with this enlist listing to all types of Institutions that will help you find the documents or find a bed that will accept your case or waste your time and money and and your brain power on all these theories about DNA and so on it does not matter you want to be a Jew there's an easy way to do it which is theic way you want to do the other way you're going to live a very very difficult life why because there's an eye that's watching everything out there and all all of those people that go through these shortcuts end up paying a thousandfold in pain a thousandfold in pain I'm telling you just a couple of examples imagine you have you're converting you got everything done through your some some some hobo over there in San Diego converted you no one even knows who he is but he converted you and he says listen according to me you're fine according to our community you're fine okay you're fine no one accepts this person but you're fine according to to him one day your little daughter one day your little son grows up to be a big son grows up to be a big daughter wants to get married but she doesn't want to marry somebody in San Diego she doesn't want to marry somebody in San Francisco she doesn't want to marry somebody in Miami she doesn't want to marry somebody in Gom kaf she wants to marry somebody that's a from Jew let say in is let's say in some from community in B in in man in someplace else that's outside of your Kila outside of your Kila she wants to go marry somebody in Baltimore okay that's somebody in Baltimore is a real Rabbi they say okay well let's see let's see where you come from you look like a from Jew oh no no I was from already my whole life oh your whole life it's good where where's your family come from oh we come from uh Janam we come from Spain we come from this oh yeah wow so your father tell me a little bit about it oh no no we had to do a g because of this oh you okay can you can you see documents can you see documents see documents wait who's this uh who's this clown what is this the uh UPS worker he works for spedex who's this guy it says b next to his name but who is this guy no no he's a he's the rabbi I converted my father he's a big big Rabbi he has a YouTube channel nobody knows who he is nobody recognizes this conversion we're sorry lady you can use it for toilet paper your little daughter little baby comes home crying from the embarrassment she get she wants to kill herself what did you do to me ABA what did you do to me IMA I was going to get married the love of my life a person that's from but now he saw me get embarrassed by the bed get embarrassed by the rabbis because you gave me a toilet paper that claims I'm Jewish how can you do this to me no we meant well be this they had a website and and it was really cheap only a few hundred and they had a YouTube channel and they had all types of pictures what pictures what embarrassment you caused me how could you do this to me no but we had the DNA because our grandfather and grandmother they left and they didn't convert to Christianity who cares you have toilet paper toilet paper you have you don't have a conversion certificate nobody cares about your DNA nobody cares whether you a Transformer or you're a robot a Robocop what do you a movie what who cares about your DNA we need ala what's what's ala Al is M that's what we have that's the reality anyone that tells you otherwise is part of the problem and I would recommend staying away from it or you end up being part of the stories and perhaps one day you'll send me a very very long email that I'm going to skim through that tells me how horrible the decision was not to listen to everything I just said now why because there's an eye that's watching everything and that eye is not going to let any of these questionable stories to say the least go through the cracks none of them I've told you guys a story about the M who didn't know he's a m until after the fact and unfortunately had to witness his lineage his get blown up in front of his eyes his son and his grandson baby blown up in a car because of some gas leak in order to make sure that hem fulfills the rule in the Torah which is to eliminate the from the world anyone who doesn't know that story you could uh see some of the older sh or you could just simply ask the question I could say the story again I just don't want to repeat it if people know it already [Music]