Rabbi Tovia Singer: God of Forgiveness or Mans transference of his unforgiving nature on God?

[Music] it's about 70 days ago that I got on an ll flight from JFK [Music] and landed here near destroy on June 4th and became a citizen of the state of Israel [Applause] I'm very grateful to you that the first Shabbos I came here I was welcomed in this synagogue in Karina the day before I took off my flight Department on June 3rd I served this rabbi of Indonesia for five years but in order for me to make aliyah with nefesh the nefesh I had to make alia from the United States much of my family as well it was wonderful to spend the time with my parents the last Sunday prior to my flight June 2nd was the Israel Day Parade in New York City and nefesh phonetic invited me not just to come to the parade but to sit on their float as it made its way up Fifth Avenue it was very exciting I had watched Israel Day parades in the past I never thought I'd be a part of one [Music] and as I was just moving up Fifth Avenue waving to all the well-wishers I really just couldn't believe what was happening and then as you get up in the 70s you see some odd characters on the west side of fifth avenue and the parade ends somewhere around seventy fifth or seventy-six that's where it pretty much comes to a halt and on the right I'm passing by seventy but I think it was 73rd Street and I see this fellow I mean hundreds of thousands of people lined the streets of New York and mittened room in the middle of the hall these hundreds of thousands of people waving and exciting and all the nice words there's one guy with a huge sign the juice are hiding Isaiah 53 now I'm moving I can't stop and I'm like oh my I wasn't sure that I'd never done this before I didn't know where this thing ends but I knew exactly where I was going to go the moment the float came to a halt and it wasn't going to go see my sisters and that's the guy I wanted to talk to imagine hundreds of thousands of people supporting Hertz Astro and a guy has a sign this is not a small sign this sign its own zip code is a very big a tremendous line the Jews are hiding Isaiah 53 google it when the float stopped how are you dear when the flow came through the halt I jumped up crossed over Fifth Avenue to the east side and just started running down looking for that sign it came into view very quickly I took out my cell phone and started the video rolling I had waited for this day for many many years I didn't think many other people at the parade even understood what this sign was conveying many people I am sure were confused by it aside from the fact that he had misspelled the word Isaiah what does he mean that the Jews are hiding Isaiah three how does that shine what I mean hiding where are we hiding it how do we either what does this mean we have the Andy tonight a person can open up and you'll find all 66 chapters of this great movie in every published Hebrew Bible in the world we have the great Isaiah scroll from cave one it's all there every word what does he mean the Jews are hiding this Isaiah b3 and what are the implications of this statement I thought that most people probably did not understand what was going on here the argument is that the Jewish people even throughout the year throughout the year we read from through the entire Pentateuch the five books of Moses the Torah and we divide up that reading cycle in two weeks in addition to reading from the Torah every Shabbos we read from the haftorah we read from a small portion of the profits in the VM a small portion and as it turns out when did this mimic whether this custom begin that Jews should read from a part of the novel so it began some nearly 2200 years ago during time of Hanukkah when Antiochus Epiphanes the fourth he was the king of the cell usage Empire a Hellenized king he was a he had a deep hatred for Judaism he didn't want to do what these guys did he didn't want to kill the Jews he wanted to kill Judaism destroyed or utterly bismillah forbidden reading publicly from a torah absolutely forbidden absolutely illicit and the Jews had to come up with some method to address this conundrum they could no longer read the Torah in their synagogues on Shabbos publicly this was forbidden now by Antiochus so they found parts of the prophets which they were permitted to read from that closely correlated to what would have been the weekly portion and right from that instead on some occasions we read from a portion not because it was correlate to the parsha but as this past week because of the time of the year it is so right now we're in the three we're coming in the three weeks of peroneus we just ripped from Isaiah chapter one it's not connected directly to the partial was very important for us to know as we approach this very very challenging time and the claim is the rabbi's they didn't want their parishioners they didn't want their well about them to believe in you know who so they expunged Isaiah 53 from the half there now this claim relies heavily on a person's ignorance because as it turns out we only read about 2 percent of all in the veal during the half hour cycle it's a very tiny amount and we're over the meaning which portions of the prophets which we read are assigned for particularly Sabbath was assigned long before the advent of Christianity where the Jews saying in the year 166 BCE that one day this is gonna be a Yosef is gonna come along and we don't know if you will believe in him so we're gonna rip out Isaiah 53 it's completely nonsensical but it thrives on a baseless hatred its thrives on the hatred that puzzles us oh uh Turley and so completely how could the church believe such stupidity about the Jewish people how could they believe that about the news and I confronted him I had seen throughout the years missionaries advancing this idea even here on the streets of Berlin YouTube videos challenging Israelis walking the streets about this I would never wooden airily do that but the question I always want to do with the Cameron Han disaster well we're hiding Isaiah 53 I'll bet you know Isaiah 53 there very well don't you have any idea what it says in Isaiah 52 ever try that it's like deer in the headlights I have to look it up what does it say in Isaiah 54 no idea they simply memorize this one chapter and a few other passages throughout the Book of Isaiah now you know it by heart they give in communication starts and then they're told that we're hiding something if they would have only read Isaiah 41 verse 89 avril lavigne it was my friend Claudius Rell is my servant Isaiah 43 verse 10 tells us that the servant is not one but many Hameed I know my chef dear Sheva hurty you are my witnesses that I have chosen my servant Isaiah 44 verse 144 verse 21 45 verse 448 verse 20 49 verse 3 you see where I'm going with all this Isaiah presupposed that you would have read the chapters that introduced it so you would know who's this evidence in Isaiah 43 and Christians are not familiar with it but they are going to believe that the Jews did them know that Christianity is the true religion but they want to subvert that by hiding it by removing it from the half thorough [Music] I wondered as a youngster as I learned the Gemara that tells us why was the second base I mean there's hard why did I call her who destroyed the second what was who's a synonym because of a baseless hatred I never I understood the words basis hatred we have to use these weeks now to turn it into a baseless love I got the grammar of those words might never happen what is baseless hatred I don't know anyone that hates someone for nothing meaning I I have not met the person who simply is walking down the street in and and forcing a Griffis and going and there's a fellow coming down because I hate him I've never met this person at the abar Bernal you'll meet many people like that the mental institution here near destroy good you don't know what that is I began to realize the grass but it was in fact this idioma was in fact the church that had portrayed and characterized the Jews in a way that was so demonic that what we had just witnessed was actually possible that completely rational people could believe things that are absolutely absurd about the Jewish people and I confronted this fellow in New York the video is going to go up shortly after tisha bleah never a baseless hatred one which is a base on a complete lie a completed and we are called upon to reject this not to emulate ed them not to emulate a sub because Jacob I love the ace of I hated a sub is completely irredeemable it may portray itself as a holy people it may that's why the pig although a pig is just as unco to a Jew as a as a camel but the pig personifies everything that's faith to the Jewish people who's the pig alone we are told in Leviticus chapter 11 is a is a is an animal that's my freshest possible it's not my leg arrow that has split hooves and very prominently has split hoods but inside is not there look at me from the outside I look like I'm car sure but inside it's not Molly gala the only animal we are told no tire that has such a feature I remember when I was asked to be the rabbi in Indonesia of of Indonesia the fourth largest country in the world as it turns out there's hadn't been a rabbi in Indonesia basically for more than a half a century really since World War two when Indonesia did cease to recognize Judaism as an official religion when Indonesia gained its independence immediately following World War two immediately following the Japanese occupation they were the main supporter behind this country to seek out its independence from the Dutch it was a man who you all heard of he was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem his name was none other than Haj Amin al-husseini the mastermind was a hurry feeling one of the a man's so evil in fact when we saw in the film about the white paper which even the term is usually associated with white paper of 1939 is severely restricting Jewish immigration dared to sell to roughly 1500 Jews a month 1500 years a month did not come here that quota was never thought and the person who was behind this which hot was Haj Amin al-husseini and his minions who convinced Hitler not to not to allow Jews to come to this country and to call upon him to come here and finish it off Rommels tanks will be stopped in North Africa as a result Indonesia the largest Muslim country in the world there are more Muslims in Indonesia than there Arabs in the world 240 million Muslims are there it's the Far East actually an easygoing place and although the Quran recognized Judaism and the Jewish people as the people of the book Indonesia did not so when it gained its independence following World War two he'd only recognized officially six religions two versions of Islam Sunni Shia Roman Catholicism and Protestant Christianity Hinduism and Buddhism now it's important that you know that Jerusalem was not an illicit religion it was not like in this former Soviet Union where you really could have gone to prison for putting on a pair of film who was forbidden for you to have a tire to eat it none of that went on in Indonesia person was fully free to practice Judaism in his home there was no problem with that at all however on your ID card citizens on your identification card on your - that's the hood you had to pick one of those religions it had no bearing on if you actually showed up the church and had no implication to whatsoever if you practice Christianity none at all it just meant that was your official religion or the same with Islam and Jews wolfen chose the Christian religion as their official religion but they certainly didn't practice Christianity many Jews couldn't even tolerate that and left the country altogether but as it turns out Indonesia while it's a a democracy if you are from the United States Australia Canada it's not quite that kind of democracy you know Spain Indonesia whatever box you checked off on your national identification card determined which public school you attended if you checked off Catholic that means your children run to a Catholic public school if you checked off Shia your children could only go to a Shia Islam public school and the children of these Jews would then force to go to a go to a Christian school and I think the rest you can figure out where generations later and it didn't take very long for these Jews for their a mcclure for their grandchildren to have joined the Christian religion strangely the Messianic movement made its way to Indonesia not to convert Jews so much because it was very inflamed to do everything Jewish in the church and it awoken their their hearts in a way and thank goodness there was some people in Indonesia that Jewish people are very committed to helping these folks Indonesia had a new policy in place where there was now a seventh box called other so there was another possibility the man who determined if you can open up a church in Indonesia can't stomp open a church you need a special license the special permits his son had been watching my youtube videos for quite some time and urged his father to attend the gathering at the funda gathering in Papua the western part of Papua in the capital Jaya Peru and hundreds of Jews will offer the opportunity to come there and to study with me for three days and I would answer their questions and explain to them why Judaism does not accept the Christian Messiah we began studying on Monday and they would decide by Wednesday evening they would vote if they believe in Jesus or not I was so out of my element so I really it was so strange to me I mean what exactly in my burrow park childhood could possibly prepared me to be in in Indonesia and that just Indonesia but ik veldt Indonesia the furthest corner of the world but there's a promise a comer who made and safe he is Shayan chapter 45 verse 6 he almighty made a promise he said to his north here 4th and the south holding out back my daughters I will bring my children from the furthest most ions from the ends of the world Papua Indonesia was the end of the world we studied for three days and Wednesday night they asked me to leave the room and they voted when I was asked to return in I came in hearing hundreds of people singing Shalom Aleichem and the tradition that they remembered low amount that's what they were singing I was it was a little burr Park Jew in the back of my head brain but it's Wednesday night you are something the leader of the community very beautiful man his daughter just spent some time here nerds throw lifted up a Indonesian Bible and he opened it and he just tore it in half on the binding and he put down the part that begins with Matthew and ends with revelation and they held up the part that begins with Genesis and ends with in his Bible was Malathi they accepted the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob that night and they asked me to be their rabbi we've got Mexico you suck here listen Kindle oof the glory of Israel never lies keloid our damu because he's not a man he nothing he'll never change his mind that is how could you birth who our rock he does begs us don't imitate the guy him don't be like them don't imitate the ways of the ace of I remember when I became with the rabbi and it was mostly staying in Jakarta Indonesia is capital and I said to the community a large gathering and I just mixed from different islands Indonesia's the country citizens of 17,000 Islands so it's really very diverse but I set them a little many official where the Muslims are not going to be a problem they're they're not gonna get in the way of this don't worry about the Christians they're more scared than we are it's a Christian menara gate but be careful Kindle us don't go in the way of Adam the people here at the theorist Hospital ela if Jews are fighting among themselves this is the greatest danger to you we have to have afters we have to come to this and the goal is to come tear - shrill when they believe their Hut with one heart because the Jews did to build to buy a Shanee that was the goal the five years I had the extraordinary opportunity of studying with them learning with them and and then I realized my time was up because has those of Indonesia the Jews of Indonesia would begin to be making Aliyah I had a feeling of sneaking suspicion that the government of Indonesia which had recognized me as a rabbi first since World War two would not be making a parade for me because of what happened that it was really time to go and it was it was you need left Indonesia on May the 25th flying Japan J a Japan T Airways the flight to Narita is about eight hours took off everything was completely normal I was of course a proof for alia the proof rally I within four hours of my application at the time I just attributed the speed of which I was approved to the fact that I knew the chief strategy fraud by of Israel I had assisted the Jewish Agency many times with their dilemmas with Messianics who wanna make alia they knew me I had lectured in Singapore so many times Singapore is very close to Jakarta it's like an hour flight like an app this faces of an hour flight so the person who interviewed me at the Israeli embassy which is also the Jewish Agency yes made very very well so I achieved the outrageous speed to Maya we got to just they knew me it was very little question of who I was and so on and when I needed to get my visa on my passport I thought I have to go to New York now handed my passport and wait two weeks to get it thing and I is talking nefesh beneficent and then like call the Jewish and say you know what if you you suck really likes you back in Singapore ena if you just fly out of Jakarta in the morning get yourself to the Embassy in Singapore if you can hand in your passport by one I'll hand it back to you by two I was so shocked this was possible like I thought that very crazy early morning fight out of Jakarta and got to the embassy handed it my passport and then they handed it back to me with that stamp that I'm that alia visa to immigrate there so and then when I forgot to tell them to put it on a separate piece of paper as I have to go back to Indonesia for the last time burkas MA I waited for the right lady with the right hijab to stamp my passport and cheaters didn't look [Music] but as it turns out the speed at which I was the whole process went so quickly he might have been more fortuitous because when I landed into it in Tokyo I right away lit up my cell phone went online and everyone's asked me rabbi are you ok what do you mean are you ok flashing messages coming in are you ok as it turns out during that ADA our flight a civil war broke out in Indonesia in Jakarta in front of my home with troop carriers six people shot dead right in front of where I had lived we are we are introduced to tissue bugs in the Navi as it turns out after it had been established we encounter tissue bug in safer zakaria I think some of you are thinking I know which verse this is I know which chapter this is I know what it's about it's a really great prophecy it's a prophecy in Zechariah 8 verse 19 and surely that prophecy that foretells that there's a day coming that the four the four fast days the four days that you cry will become days of rejoicing in holidays Thea who though is certainly where we find tisha Bob Errol tisha Bob is the fest of the fifth month as it turns out that's not correct moreover as it turns out that messianic passage which is found by an ecstatic passage about 10 grabbing the shirt of a Jew and say you can take us with you because now it was we ever that God is with you as it turns out of course is right there it's all messianic but that's not word begins as it turns out that ecstatic passage that numinous verse in Zechariah 8 verse 19 is an answer to a question asked of the NAM be in Zechariah chapter 7 right at the opening as it turns out zechariah chapter 7 begins with the shiloh that was asked in Halle of the Navi the Navi was the girl adore and they were Jews and bubble a lot certainly more than a million Jews were in Bravo while 42,000 Jews made that first wave of alia some 7,000 would come later on with Israel and it had a big question the base I'm either she's being built what was destroyed was to them being undone do we still have to fast untouchable do we still have to cry on this web this is the shell cyst this is literally the Jews of Babylon present the the priests they couldn't figure out the answer the judges in their cell they couldn't figure out the answer and go straight as a Harrier one of the three prominent IVM that lived during bias Shaney what is the howler do we still have to fast on teshuvah could you imagine that the abar Brunell separating lovato he is my go-to commentary on all of tonight for those of you who really want to understand the Navi but understand it the Barbary Devils are very very holy Jew and he was just a genius at this Allah is a giant of a personality barber Nell was born in Portugal in 15 and 14 37 he was minister of finances in Portugal he then his life was threatened in the middle of night he had to leave Portugal go to Spain we usually identify the about being out with Spain as it turns out he only spent 11 years in Spain and he fought bitterly against the garish against the destruction or the first can you infer the for forced conversion in Spain on Toshiba and he fought all the way through from March 1492 all the way to the end of July he was willing to pay off Ferdinand Isabella for them not to expel the Jews he was a fantastically wealthy man and he had frequently given away everything he owns to save Jewish communities and ultimately was an apostate Jew who was the head of the Inquisition talk Amata who was himself halakhah qui Jewish he put it into that possibility it seems that these characters keep coming up over and over again he was tall before tisha Berg he was told if you want he was so favored by the kingdom McQueen he was so vital to Spain's economy and he was so well liked it's odd that in the Christian commentaries they will quote Rashi they'll quote on attack for sure but sort of but when they quote the a barber now they do a tremendous respect Ferdinand Isabelle you maximum offered him that he might stay in Spain remain a Jew keep a minion with you all your money is yours just stay here you don't have to convert you don't have to compromise anything you'll have a minion stay he refused and you know there were rabbis in Spain who when it came time they got baptized the chief rabbi is Seville who fought with the Abbar Bernal against the convert when it came time and I was tactless and you had to go one way or the other they got baptized you see the contrast and what kind of a towering figure we're speaking about the barber Nell had already written his parish on the Navi he wrote it when he came to Spain in nearly six weeks it's mind-blowing he then moves to Italy where he spends the rest of his life and that's what he writes almost everything and he was NIF there in visiting his son he was lifted in Venice in 1508 his mot saber is where to this day the barber Nell explains what's happening what's going on with this question and the rage that is how you had with Zachary here such a question never mended therein but no he was shocked the barber now explains it's based on a Cameron Slater the pus akin Azure sheer a job or a brush M advantage a ver i'm Zook Anissa is up the camera says that why do we have this double Russian where it said twice about the Jewish people the first passing of the Jewish people to come tears roll was through Yeshua and the second should have been Ezra why was there no mushiya for the time better this little bubble could have been the Messiah he must have been a very disappointed man because they were going ha hate because of the Jews of that time they had permission to come tear to Cyril from Cyrus and they didn't come only 42,000 came and the rest of them stayed back in baobab el that's why the Ababa now explains and the Marcia it's incited a flat valve of monolith explains that's the reason why the Jews start to use aramaic at that time adopted the non jewish names for our months machetes not here he blew it the barber Nell is unique among all the commentators to that point he's the last of the shinin who unlike previous commentators look at it passage a small clause of pause and explains what it means the Abravanel stop and says let's look at the whole picture and draws it together by usually asking a whole series of profound questions which leaves you stunned and then one answer solves everything if you ever want to just get it and you find that you know I'm reading the rock I'm learning Rashi but I hear what they're saying I just I can't put this whole thing together go to the barber now that's what he does no one ever did that until him till this great shine till we were blessed with this fabulous mind strangely baby's father wrote one of the most important biographies on the upper panel as it turns out could you imagine the rage that's how your head when he hears you of the belong to stay back in Bevelle you're the ones who didn't come and explains the reasons the Jews in bubbles they weren't with Shirley Barbara now explains you know Brenda Marshall talks about this too they were very religious people but they thought to themselves do you remember to whom you're not gonna have you're not gonna have the Machine look like you had all the Nissen that we're in the first temple you're not gonna have he is surrounded by gar you you're still under the Persian Empire this thing could be a momentary thing that could just disappear in a moment what were the chances that the Jews who came there to Cheryl looking down to all the armies that were facing them ready to destroy them what were the chances of them surviving in that war of independence it was inconceivable what those who survived ah how an ash which she mailed to hold off armies from every direction and he's enraged don't you understand that the reason you fast on this day and he then puts together a tissue but with Stanga Dahlia telling the value is well such a horrible thing who had met Sarah was not he was a Russia but he is when the base first base side McNish was Nephilim was destroyed he actually allowed a small plate a small remnant group of Jews poor farmers peasant Jews to stay here there so work the field I think that's tissue but night they love and he allows us to go on under the leadership of a good value but not because of just an amazing person and you'll be always with them by Rosh Hashanah the Bayside maybe this will destroy on the 9th and 10th day of Oh face it was busy by Russia Shana that was on the ninth and tenth day of the fifth month they sent me to the story and just for a very short time the Jews were left I mean a small group of Jews were left in the food net so was happy with it go ahead you want to just work this don't start trouble this theme of new head nets if you don't start trouble you could stay we find it here Mayo many times yummy own says in chapter 25 he says openly why do you want to fight he's talking about the false prophets why do you want to fight the little head nod sir there's only 70 years to Bevelle verse 12 and then they're done just sit it out and we'll head that so would have permitted this and yet they assassin it this small group of Jews assassinated Hetalia which refers that's the fest of the seventh month who's murdered on Russia shuttle if you see what it is it isn't the Muslims it's us and he is enraged he is enraged you think God cares that there's food in your stomach it's not for me it's because your sins that you're fasting when Michelle how when we do social justice when you care about the weakest members have cited the widow the orphan then you're gonna have the true Beulah then these four fast days will be days of great joy for you this idea bleeds through in the Hoffer today in fact a third of every sum of every fast day it's in an ominous chapter when you say oh I'm not the addresses the reason unpacks the reason why people don't do chipper why they don't repent now explain to the conundrum if in fact the half tired from Shabbos is correct that if in fact you feed the hungry they take care of the widowed even though your sins are ISM even though your sins are read that I will make it white like snow I'll forgive you then why don't people take take advantage of this why if chuhwa is so accessible if God really will forgive you why don't people really repent what gets in the way what is preventing someone from just doing Shiva just like a body that we abuse ourselves smoking whatever it is in a few years later your body repairs itself as these Jews we saw endure things that I can't imagine but they somehow they repaired themselves are in the shovel hope I will forgive you why don't people do too and the reason is is they believe that God is like us and the worst of us because that's what ace of a it's the worst of us and the worst of us can forgive I haven't broken spoken to my brother in years I'll never talk to him but my father did to me I can't even mourn over him there are people have been spoken to in years and I will never talk to them in I will not forgive them for what they did to me the people are supposed to protect me abandon me I'll never forgive them and then what we do then is impose that on tacos were who which really is very Christian the Christian effort is is man's effort to create God in His image Judaism Lahav though is God successful efforts great man in His image we then project that quality on to God if I will never forgive my sister-in-law I'll never forgive my best friend in school we were inseparable and she betrayed me so why would God forgive me when I die they gonna turn up the flames of Jahannam for me there's I am done I'm fried there's no hope for me because I can't forgive others God certainly can't forgive me this is the major conundrum than the VM tell us of what prevents people doing sure because they assume that God is some way like us Edgar I'm Kris in this religion of Christendom in taxes in fact I can't repent no offense someone has to type in all these the nabi says the following he says when you fight god don't walk away it's okay he's there it's not my words his words Isaiah 55 verse 6 strange pussing it's the beginning of the hot fire on this first day as in the other first days seek the Lord seek - Jabar who when you find him scream out him when he's an errand any person reading such a passage one as well I would have to look for God when I find him lion would be screaming for he's right there we're right there I know there's a god I didn't spend the second as an atheist I know this guy I just think he wants nothing to do with me the nobbies didn't say stop how question where there's nothing like you Hashem hates ASA but he loves Yaakov follow the other way and then the Nabi says in verse 7 laughter if the man who was sinful turns away from his evil ways from his sinful thoughts I will completely forgive him forgive me are you insane how would you ever forgive me I am so lost I can fast tissue but me feel good when the faster is done but deep down I know there are some if my wife knew she throw me out of my head there's how could God ever forgive me I can't have secrets from him touch something says stop what you're doing stop creating me in your image that's an agnostic from my ways I've in your ways my thoughts are higher than you of us I am nothing like you nothing you may have a hard time forgiving others but I'll forgive you would you consider coming back to me because I'll return to you that's the passage we repeat over at the end of our last night and today I could do the unimaginable because it's while it's true we're creating the image and I couldn't murder full of MA who raffle my fighter whom as God is merciful you two are pulled upon as a mandate to be merciful don't ever imagine you can ever have the mercy and love the pain you know that word hate really has the same root as haenam that free gift of love don't ever imagine that surrender is completely for my ways are not your ways my thoughts are not your thoughts as the heavens are higher than the earth so too are my ways higher than your ways my thoughts higher than your thoughts it's so stunning I think I shouldn't even mention the Steve I mean I will whatever do you know that the Church Fathers frequently cited that passage as explaining why the doctrine of the Trinity can be believed because although it's a mystery and impossible to conceive God's ways are higher than our ways God's thoughts are higher than our thoughts are there you may not understand the doctrine of the Trinity you might not understand homo Lucia but certainly God's mind is higher than your ways what ripping a verse out of context what raping of attacks who are biting the coulee Alma the pussing is talking about that question will forgive me it's mamas lead though yees is the exact opposite today I remember I was lecturing in Jakarta when I spoke there it was attended not just by the Jewish community but Christians and Muslims would attend frequently those who watch it watch the some of those films and one of the films there was a fellow who's British an expat not Jewish Christian and he raised his hand my lectures typically in Indonesia are like the show I do I don't get up and make a speech I just take questions from the audience I find that much more interest intriguing and the men asked me this question he asks the following he asked why is God such a cruel angry God and the god of Christianity is so merciful why is it that the god of Christianity is so full of love it's kind of this Marcion type of argument then the Jewish god is so hard and rigid and tough and I said to him you have it all wrong let me give you an example imagine a person who had has committed a crime and stands before the judge and the judge says lookit you're guilty of this and you're gonna there are two options here you can either pay a fine of 100 thousand pounds well you have to go to prison it's not a good thing to be told because I can imagine you're saying so I don't have that kind of money and I really don't want a little prison but as it turns out in the back of the courtroom unbeknownst to you there's this very wealthy person who's observing this spectacle and tells your attorney that as it turns out I'll pay it for him let the judge know so I will pay the hundred thousand pound fine for your client the attorney then turns to the judge and says Your Honor as it turns out we have someone here who's willing to pay the 100,000 pound fine oh the judge says that but doesn't care where the money comes from as long as the money isn't illicit I think a warehouse truck can go that's judges number one judge number 2 our second set up is similar but it doesn't end the same way standing before the judge committed a crime a hundred thousand pounds of the fine or you go to prison you realize you've done something horrible and you also know you don't have that kind of money and you've been to cry in front of the judge you've been to weep in front of the judge and the judge is not any judge but this judge is a little true judge this is the judge that can see the heart who knows the heart and mind of every person it's one of the principles of our faith and he realized that you in fact repented and the judge says I forgive you who is truly the merciful and loving God the one that says someone paid the price for you someone died for your sins someone gave it for you in your stead vicarious atonement that judge has no mercy at all that's just simply he's getting pay from somebody else he doesn't care what the money comes from there's no mercy in that Judge that Judge is simply saying you can't pay it but someone else can and he died for your sins he's paid the price and that is the judge of Christendom and this for that reason that Christians are terrified to approach the father see I thought is murder someone who they can approach that is so filthy so dirty if what I've just said to you now is strange azad you have never studied the Christian faith but the high college boy who the true God the Sheikh hang out the one who was truly filled with mercy he could see your heart and they could say to you I know you have a tough time forgiving others but I have not just big news but the real good news I can forgive you too this is a chemise vara soon we won't have everyone have any at Sanga Dahlia but we're gonna have instead a day of great rejoicing may we all be safe that this witness the coming of the true chef whenhe terbium a No [Music]