Rabbi Tovia Singer and Carlton McDonald Powerful Debate: Is Jesus the Promised Jewish Messiah?

my name is Eric Koston and my wife and I we run an organization called the upon that and we're sponsoring this evening we want to thank you all for coming just give yourself a big hand I want to actually introduce the moderator who will then introduce the two panelists so I'm not gonna spend my minute half up here speaking about the pounds it comes from very far to speak about the topics of the evening quickly just about you but now it's very apropos that we are hosting this event mainly because we are an outreach program cure for cocaine bringing Jews back to their rich and ancient not progressive heritage and this this type of event is very apropos because we deal mainly with la trouve on people who are returning number one many many people who have orange search search for a way of life they call themselves Benigno after we're through with them and we also help people who are in the process of converting believe it or not and their families were very much involved it's a whole it's 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audiences worldwide every year he's the author of the two-volume book which is available after the debate this evening in the hallway let's get biblical why doesn't you use in the 70 Christian Messiah and he's a frequent guest on television and radio shows please welcome back to be a singer I'd like to introduce you to a gentleman and a scholar all the way here from Great Britain Carleton MacDonald Carleton MacDonald is also published out there and he has devoted his entire adult life to understanding Scripture he is devoted Christian and he has come a long way to join us here today just remind you again about your cell phones and welcome Carleton adult good evening everyone maybe I need another ah yeah good evening everyone is that better it's not on okay but more people responded that's pretty good good evening everyone okay excellent firstly thank you all for inviting me and unknown and uncredentialed individual to come and share so it's been built as a debate but we're not enemies and indeed I have been inspired by watching many of Rabbi Tobias and broadcasts however I'm hoping that we all learn something from both speakers my emphasis throughout my life is well throughout my adult life at the age of 20 I became a Christian and recognized that to be a Christian I have to understand the Word of God not just the New Testament but the Old Testament as well and so what I'm hoping to do is to provide a bridge between both communities because as believers in a creator we are unique as believers in a book that the creator's provided for us to an extent one part believes one or two thirds the other part tends to believe a third I hope to bridge the gap between us so let's ask the question and hopefully answer it is Jesus Yeshua the Messiah so my journey is an interesting one I'm gonna talk about my journey I'm going to talk about Delta chapter 9 I'm gonna look at prophecies both prophecies predicting what the Messiah would do what the Messiah did and one of the processes that he gave I will then look at one particular attribute of the Messiah the light to the Gentiles and why they had to be a messiah very often we asked him in this ayah the answer is yes or no I will also present why there had to be a messiah so let's get started Bible study is the study of the Bible there are many methods and departments none is without value study the Bible there is tremendous value to you all of them when done thoroughly rather than superficially tend to a deepening of conviction as to the accuracy of the Scriptures that we have so my journey why is it that I can address Rabbi Tobias question if Daniel chapter 9 is a prophecy of the Messiah why is it there's no reference to it in the New Testament so my journey about five years ago I was studying along with a lot of people in the church I attend the book of Haggai and in my particular Bible which I've left in my bag somewhere it says in the introduction to Haggai and you probably can't see that very well or maybe it's because in the front pants thank you very much so it says in each lectured a guy that it was written about 520 BC and there's a note that says and you can see it just there it's been several years since the rubber ball and Joshua led the first return of the exhaust to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple of God introduction to Haggai now I was really quite confused because if 520 BC is after zerubabbel then something strange is going on so I went to the book of Ezra and in the book of Ezra again in my Bible you can check it later it says it's written between 457 and 444 BC now 457 BC if BC begins here is not is not it so confusing which way around it so this one is supposed to be after Ezra but you can see Ezra according to the notes produced by the biblical scholars is after Haggai so something strange is going on and I decided you know something the only way to understand these biblical chronologies is to go from the beginning and so I spent two years growing through the genealogies of the Old Testament starting with Adam and Seth at 130 years and I produce this enormous chart that's just a little bit of it and as I was going through I discovered some amazing things one of which is the answer to that question about Daniel 9 so let's look at Daniel 9 prophecy Daniel 9 verse 24 27 T weeks are determined upon thy people these are Daniels people these are the primary audience I guess the the Jewish people and the point my holy city to finish transgression to make an end of sins on the next slide you'll see each of these itemized so I'll jump to 25 because we're gonna go back to those know and know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem on to the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks and threescore and two weeks so it starts with seventy weeks in verse 24 and then goes on to Messiah the Prince so you probably can't see that very well unfortunately so on the left hand side nine twenty four seventy weeks for thy people for the holy city to finish transgression to make an end of sins to make reconciliation for iniquity to bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up the vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy so my people well acts 1346 sure Showell Paul says that since the Jews were taking the message of the Messiah as nothing then they were going to turn to the Gentiles acts 1346 the second one seventy weeks upon the holy city destroy the temple I've got a reference for that until the next slide to finish transgression Messiah was betrayed and in Luke 23 verse 4 1323 the transgression the betrayal of Yeshua or Jesus if he's the Messiah occurred to make an end of sins in John 19 verse 30 Christ on the cross declared it is finished five to make reconciliation for iniquity first Corinthians 5:7 Christ is our Passover lamb says Paul to bring in everlasting righteousness in Hebrews chapter eight and Hebrews chapter ten sixteen to eighteen we see the New Covenant described and finally to seal up the vision no not finally to seal up the vision and the prophecy all fulfilled 490 years after service decree we going to come back to that in a while and then to anoint the most holy we're going to find out what the anointing is when it took place and white significant so I didn't talk about destroying the temple and so I will do that next okay destroy the temple and I'm just gonna start on the right hand side so there are three references to people saying this fellow said he was going to destroy the temple and build in three days now John Christ's closest friend while on earth in a chapter 2 verse 18 to 21 says verse 19 the Christ was going to destroy the temple in three days raise it up again the response from the Jews verse 20 then said the Jews forty in six years was this temple in building and wilt thou rear it up in three days and then the arter to which temple was destroyed and rebuilt was in verse 21 is in verse 21 John two verse 21 but he spake not of the sanctuary or the temple Herod's temple but the temple of his body and again we'll see in a moment why that is so important there was a prophecy precisely about this temple being rebuilt Exodus chapter 25 and verse 8 let them make me a sanctuary that I may dwell among them so in the New Testament talks about our bodies being the temple of the Holy Spirit in X's 25 verse 8 let them make me sentry that I may dwell among them is it the tent or the temple that God wants to dwell in or is it in our minds in our bodies and so in John chapter 1 verse 14 the word was made flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth so when Yeshua was born and he entered into a human body 100% man then the sanctuary the temple of his body is indeed that which was destroyed or killed on the cross and then raised three days later excuse me so here's the question then why anointed over lunch I asked rabbi towba as he's a priest if he was anointed and he said well no we don't really have anointing of priests anymore but you know Christ was anointed so let's have a look at anointing in the Torah Leviticus chapter 8 and numbers chapter 8 how do you anoint a priest with the anointing oil Leviticus 8 verse to Leviticus 8 verse 5 this is the thing which the LORD commanded to be done in terms of anointing and priests and then verse 6 abilties 8 Moses brought Aaron & Sons and Moses washed them with water in numbers chapter 8 we get the same Phebe the Lord spoke unto Moses take the Levites from among the children Israel and cleanse them and the shut that door to them to cleanse them sprinkle water of purifying upon them so if a priest in the Torah was anointed by being cleansed by being cleansed with water by being washed then it's just that's just one of the things thank you for the little murmuring at the end so it's important to understand that Christ was also cleansed symbolically yes yes so I'm going to go off a little bit and then I'm going to come back to where we were so there is a change of priesthood and the change of priesthood according to Paul in the New Testament is after the order of Melchizedek Melchizedek so in Genesis chapter 14 verse 18 Melchizedek brought a king of Salem brought bread and wine to Abram and he took the bread in chapter 22 of look gave thanks brake hit game on to them saying this is my body which is broken for given for you this do in remembrance of me verse 20 likewise after likewise also the cup after supper saying this cup is the cup of the New Testament in my blood which is shed for you so Melchizedek brought bread and wine to Abram Jesus Yeshua said the bread was his broken body the wine was his blood and so there are seven references in the book of Hebrews to Jesus being a priest after the order of Melchizedek so Accord to pour the transition from the Levitical priesthood to the priesthood that was earlier than the Levitical priesthood is that of Melchizedek so who blessed Abraham it was Melchizedek without father or mother but actually we know well I know who the father I don't know the mother's name but I know who the mother is of Melchizedek but that's for another time so there has been a change of priesthood Jesus Yeshua was anointed and he was baptized by John the Baptist so although John was reluctant to baptize him Jesus said you know it's important that he baptize me to fulfill all righteousness so he recognized that to become a priest you had to be ordained or cleansed in order to become a priest and in that John the Baptist was a a son of Zechariah of the Levitical priesthood and his mother Elizabeth was also of the descendant of Aaron John the Baptist a 19 Jesus is effectively passing the priesthood on now I didn't get this for myself about 27 years ago a Messianic Jew Dick Reuben who has a series of videos shared that and I found it really quite interesting but there's still something more that we need to get to and that is we're looking at prophecies being fulfilled what is the most important prophecy in the Jewish Bible okay that's that's that's that's that's it's only a prophecy and it's certainly very important but I think there's one that's more important I'll give it clue two in the Book of Jeremiah yeah the new covenants you see the reason why this is so important is what is it that really captures the essence of Judaism and where did it really start was it not the deliverance sure it started with Abraham but wasn't the deliverance from Egypt and in that the giving of the Ten Commandments is part of that first covenant the prophecy was Jeremiah 31 verse 31 behold the days come saith the Lord that I will make a new covenant with a house of Israel and with the house of Judah so not just Jews Judah but Israel at large now of course the comment that I made with their fathers in the desert and by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt which my covenant they break although I was a husband unto them saith the Lord so this is important because that first covenant which is the covenant that is really what governs for many of us is going to be changed slightly and the change is in verse 33 they shall be the Covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days saith the Lord I will put my law in their inward part and write it in their hearts and will be their God and they shall be my people and they shall no more teach every man his neighbor so it's not of the laws done away with no way it is to be written on our hearts so jumping forward to Romans chapter 2 and Romish ups to 7 to 16 Paul says to them who by patient continuously well doing so that's something that you do actively seek for glory honor and immortality eternal life but unto them that are contentious and do not obey the truth but obey unrighteousness indignation and wrath tribulation anguish upon every soul of man that doeth evil of the Jew first and also of the Gentile so Jews and Gentiles are going to be judged in the same way but glory honor and peace to every man that works good to the Jew first and also to the Gentile so destruction for evil rewards for good both Jew and Gentile there was no respective person who's God for as many as obscene without the Lord shall also post that the law as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law 16 so I've missed a few verses in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ accord to my gospel so what if I missed out this is the essence of the New Covenant not the hearers of the law are just before God but the doers of the law shall be justified for when the Gentiles who have not the law do by nature naturally do it with things contained in that all these have not the Law Lords themselves which show the work of the law written in their hearts their conscience bearing witness their thoughts meanwhile accusing or else excusing one another so the change of covenants isn't a change of law but changing where it's written we when we break one of those Ten Commandments written with the finger of God on stone should be feeling in our heart that we've done wrong so let's jump back a bit one of the identify marks of the Messiah is that he would be a light to the Gentiles so who in the Old Testament is the best example of a godly life who is the best person that people in the world should emulate and thank you very much is he Adam is it Noah is it abram job Moses David Elijah Daniel well most of the murderer and all those very very humble and he was so righteous that God would speak to him face to face he that that that murder is not a good example to follow I would whoa okay well question time don't write it down we'll answer that later we are okay we'll make sure you ask that question later so I would really like to know and I'd like to hear what floor you find in Jesus now he makes claims that you will perhaps disagree with but seems to be a perfect example so what does yes she what does Jesus represent John 4:22 he says salvation is of the Jews do you disagree with that so this person that you're not accepting as the Messiah says salvation is of the Jews to actually believe in the New Testament it's saying you want to understand the real merits of keeping the commandments of doing good you need to understand and study the life of the Jews who are living the at least ought to be living it out so this anointed one anointed by John the Baptist says to the whole of Christendom and you'll see in a moment much further than that salvation is of the Jews and if a Christian believes the Bible they should read the Bible when they see that they should oh I need to understand the Jews why is this Jewish person saying salvation is of the Jews and yet many of the people that we're here from the front seemed not to agree you know I was in Laodicea this year I was in ladis in 1992 I wanted to visit all the churches the book of Revelation seven churches couldn't find a to see you anyway I went back to Turkey this year and we've got Google and Saturn out of them - define later seer look at this it's the reason why Christians don't recognize the importance of the Jews look at this so in layered akia in Turkey it's not far from Kalla see there is a captive lettuce here and there is one of the 49 canons that if you can see Canada twenty nine a Christian a Christian shall not stop work on the Sabbath but on the Lord's Day and by this they mean the first day of the week why is he so important while Jews walked the earth we have an enemy a spiritual enemy called the devil he hates the people that show we are creative when I first met a Jew it was so warming because growing up in the middle of England you don't see many Jews and so a meeting a Jew I knew I read about in the Bible here is someone who is a descendant of the people that I'm reading about when I went to the synagogue for the first time it gave me a sense of again connection with the Creator you are the visible you Jews are the visible evidence that the creation in Genesis is true unfortunately later cr4 that the christians is a representation of the church christian church at the end of time and having god's turkin got two letters here and seen that it was that letter c r they decided you know something do not rest on sabbath rest on the lord's day major problem but i'm gonna get out to them the dental nine thing down nine fulfilled the timing of the prophecy all the prophecies of the Bible are true one of the reasons I am a Christian is because more than 2,000 prophecies in the Bible every single one of them true societies go out to try and disprove something and they can't find it and they end up becoming Christians every single prophecy comes true so 490 years there is a reference to in the New Testament but first we were to go back to Daniel chapter 9 and down except I was to Daniel is studying the Book of Jeremiah where the seventy weeks would come to an end and so you can see the 70 weeks in red there and in verse 24 we saw 72 determined unto thy people so the seventy weeks are fourteen ninety years so we have to try and find the 490 years in the New Testament and for that I'm going to go to Matthew Matthew was a tax collector pretty good at counting and he talks in verse 17 of Matt chapter one about fourteen generations from Abraham to David four generations from David to the captivity in Babylon 40 nations in captivity to Jesus and there was a question asked about did the New Testament writers write to try to persuade people verse 13 of Matthew 13 13 and 13 therefore speak I to them in parables this is Matthew quoting Jesus I speak them in parables because seeing they see not and hearing they hear not a neither really understand Daniel chapter 12 verse 4 seal up the book until the time of the end so there are things that are in Scripture that are sealed until the end of time so are they trying to persuade or are things written in such a way that today we are going to see the connection between that 490 years in the Old Testament prophecy of Messiah and in the new testament so having gone through the Bible and gone to all the genealogies and counted the number of generations from David from David to the captivity they're actually 17 of them 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 - the captivity so in Matthew says 14 he means something else so 40 generations what is a generation the Bible speaks for itself so let's go to the Old Testament see what a generation is number 32 13 and the Lord's anger was killed against Israel and he made them wandering the wilderness Halla 40 years until all the generation that had done even in the sight of the Lord was consumed Psalm 95 verse 10 40 as long was I grieved with this generation so a generation is 40 years the Bible is absolutely fantastic so now let's go back so 14 times 40 is 562 14 28 - 28 256 add a zero 560 so 560 years is 14 generations now isn't it interesting that in Daniel chapter 9 verse 2 mentioned 70 years of captivity verse 24 mentions 70 weeks determines unto the people an item Messiah destroy the temple 70 + 490 is 560 so we have one generation is 40 years 40 generations five-six years exactly the same period of time as the 70 years plus 70 weeks you know what that means it means that the 568 period is the period that coincides with Matthew's fourteen generations from the captivity to Jesus now is Matthew doing this so that you can understand it you try to persuade you or is God writing it so that if we search we will find and see that that prophecy is fulfilled at the time of Christ I've got two minutes two minutes three okay thank you so when do they start 70 weeks are determined know that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem this is - Cyrus there's a prophecy in Isaiah 45 verse 1 - the anointed Cyrus who will subdue nations and the gates shall not be shut he fulfills that prophecy aren't you fifty years later in as we chapter one now in the first year of Cyrus he made a declaration that ooh so first year of Cyrus Keith Persia that the word of the lord by the mouth of jeremiah might be fulfilled so daniel says sorry the angel Indian line says from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem seventy weeks Cyrus says in fulfillment of the prophecy of Jeremiah seventy years the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus and he said to the Jews you can return back to Jerusalem so the 70 years of Jeremiah in Daniel and in Ezra and it chronicles 32nd chronicles 36 our 70 years and the declaration Jews can return is the beginning of the 490 years to the Messiah so the end of Jeremiah's prophecies the beginning of a 70 week prophecy and it means that Messiah must be anointed sometime during those or yet by the end of the fourteen 90 years after Cyrus his decree the Messiah must be anointed other otherwise the prophecy is not true and we know that all the Bible prophecies are true if you want to understand prophecy must first understand history so let's have a look at some prophecies about Christ so Isaiah 7:14 a maiden shall conceive bear a son and shall call his name Emmanuel now what does he manual mean it means God with us the the angel that visited Elizabeth Zacharias wife prophesied of John that John would be great in the sight of the Lord and verse 16 many of the children Israel shall turn to the Lord their God and he will go before with a spirit of power of Elias Gabriel when he came to according to Luke a virgin and the angel came in unto her and then Luke chapter 1 verse 31 the angel said to her you shall call his name Jesus 1 he shall be great two shall be called the son of the highest the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end now if this is all made up how could someone make this up nearly 2,000 years ago and it be so true today is Christ's Kingdom any smaller how could such a fraudulent event have so much weight I need to go to my last yeah but I've got one minute left so so there's a prophecy that Christ made in Luke 21 and I'll just go straight to verse 24 Luke 21:24 it says they shall fall by the edge of the sword and shall be led away captive into all nations written nil 2,000 years ago and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled President Trump 6th of December last year contributed to fulfilling this prophecy of the Messiah of Jesus Christ how could well you must at least admit he's a prophet to be making such an accurate prediction 200 years ago there were no Jews in control of Israel that prophecy has come true it is made by Jesus Christ who says salvation is of the Jews I have much more to go into after save some of that too later thank you very much thank you very very much politics and now [Applause] blue hema boom welcome I should begin by saying that when I was a young man I never imagined that I'd be standing on a stage with a Christian debating whether Jesus is the promised Jewish Messiah in fact when I was a young man I never imagined that I would be interested in helping people around the world who are in the church to return back to the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob I am very grateful that I prefer a field that the Holy One blessed be his name allowed this to happen and as I got a little bit older I began to to meet many many many Christians very fine people and I realize that in fact people needed to understand about Scripture because as it turns out Carlton I thank you very much for joining us here tonight he has an opinion about the Messiah abaca about God's salvation program for mankind I know there are rabbis they have an opinion too but we are not here to find out about the opinions of men we are much more interested in finding out what is God's opinion what does God think about this I mean after all that's what matters how would you know how would you know what God's opinion is about the Messiah whether we look this up how will we find it there is only one source and that scripture tonight is that scripture has been given to the prophets of Israel and it's preserved us Thursday and therefore we will only seek to use our holy writings of Scripture to the sand what does the Bible teach what is heaven honest as I mentioned that was born 15 years after the Holocaust concluded I grew up thinking that in in Brooklyn it's hard to tell from my British accent and it's true till I know you thought from Ireland you thought not true when I grew up in bar Rock Brooklyn and I grew up with folks who were survived Auschwitz had numbers on the roms and I grew up around a highly gentrified area the people who are definitely not Jewish and certainly did not like me and I didn't care about them very much as I mentioned it would be years later that we'll find out two things I used to think that Christianity was simply a mistaken religion they are wrong about certain very important items but it was something like Buddhism and some religion of it and they just have misconstrued what's going on there misapprehended it but I thought that guy um the nations of the world they were terrible people in my early 20s I discovered something fascinating and that is the non-jews that was meeting these people were very very fine people and the Christianity was in fact much more horrific than I ever imagined what does that tell us what does the Bible tell us about Messiah what a scripture saying does these Jewish Scriptures ever tell us that the Messiah is supposed to die for our sins it's not there this is what my Bible says that when the Messiah comes events will unfold before our eyes the knowledge of God will cover the world as a water cover seat Isaiah chapter 11 verse 9 did that happen 2,000 years ago that was not what unfolded in fact it was because the destruction of you schleimann and it was because of the exile that the Mount of God diminished was not increased around the world carlton mentioned earlier that we have to thank christianity mother's words for spreading the lights what would the Jewish people do without the church how would we ever have survived I want to give my big thank you to the church and I want to thank you because without you I don't know how we would ever made it thank you for protecting us that we survived I don't know how we would ever make it I'm going to go to the Church of Holy Sepulchre after I said thank you so much for thinking for taking care of us all these years what a glorious church that is a fantastic institution has there been an institution in history that has murdered more Jews of the church the product of Jesus and the product of the teachings of the New Testament how does the really teaching that has taught then taught the people of the world to curse Israel I've got a Bible it says a Zephaniah chapter three verses chapter three that in fact that in those days though all the national sleep of a pure speech they will not be cursing the Jews they will not be saying that the Jews are the seat of the devil they will not be seen they will not express the Spree the that we find in in 1st Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 14 through 16 even as they out of the Jews who both killed the Lord Jesus Christ and their own prophets and a contrary to mankind the Church Fathers probably people like Augustine or Milito we have his screen he's an earlier church father Luther Calvin our good friends they probably would have been fine people if they had never been exposed to Christianity it's unfortunate these folks that that that Irenaeus it's a shame that Eusebius was exposed to the teachings of the church because he expressed ideas they were so offensive to our people Bowyer Hashem lamella colorants by urema who on that day God's he will be one and God's everyone well that's not the case today my Carlton McDonald mentioned earlier that Jeremiah 31 is fulfilled in Jesus Jeremiah 31 tells us that days are coming that God will make a covenant with the house of Israel and Judah that means that northern came the southern kingdom are going to be restored as is prophesized in Ezekiel chapter 37 it tells us in those days which carlton believes it was fulfilled 2,000 years ago in Jesus that no one will have to teach anyone about God because they will know me from the least of them to the grace of them declares the Lord that didn't happen either we were told about a prophecy in the Book of Luke Luke chapter 21 we find similar texts in Matthew 24 and so on that Jesus prophesized that the temple would be destroyed that Jerusalem be destroyed and the children of Israel be murdered in exile from the land of Israel this is a fantastic prophecy but Luke was probably written somewhere about 80-85 that would be like me telling you that David Koresh was died years ago prophesied about 9/11 in in the year 80 or 85 when the book of Luke is written it's telling us that Jesus says that the temple would be destroyed where is that prophecy where is prophecy in that and eventually you will see that glory of God coming that the Southern Man will come with the clouds of heaven and then in verse 32 Jesus we are told says that this generation will not pass until these events unfold well it did pass and nothing happened the Messiah didn't come it is precisely the the antithesis of what the Messiah supposed to do in fact what we heard outlines precisely why Judaism does not accept the Christian Messiah there can be no period in history when we see the very reciprocal of what the Messiah supposed to accomplish as we in you for example the temples folks will be destroyed this is what the Messiah is supposed to do predicted the structure temple or are we told in Ezekiel chapter 37 that in fact there'll be a prince and it'll be David to my servant that's the Messiah all Christians and Jews know that and the Jews will keep the total keep the commandments and they look like Saints you really build will be of me your myths and then the nations will know that I am Lord well in the first century no temple was built below is destroyed near 70 we have I have a Bible it says in Isaiah Isaiah chapter 43 verse 6 that I'm going to gather you bin and I will bring you back and I'm going to say to the north give back in the south hold that back my daughters I will bring you back from the ends of the earth there are many of you sitting here today that God found you and brought you home he kept his promise you got let's at least release a cure because their glory of Israel tacos were hoax never lies why he'll are you are dumb who because he's not a manly he'd know him you'll never change his mind and burnish him here we are you slime and he didn't change his mind Bertha shame we are here these are the prophecies that are outlined in Scripture there's not going to be what Matthew tells us where Jesus says in Matthew chapter 10 verse 34 and 35 think not that I can't bring peace and if I didn't come to bring peace I came to bring war to set aside and get this father a daughter against the mother a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law that a person's enemies will be them of their own household what kind of prophecy is that what kind of Messiah has that and if that's your kinds of beshear I want nothing to do with him that is precisely what Mel I says will not happen the very last prophet of Tanakh tells us that when Messiah comes at the end of days that family should be restored and returned back to the God of Israel no death is described Luke chapter 21 but the resurrection of the Dead Daniel chapter 12 verse 2 there are many who lie in the earth ere all rise to everlasting life another to everlasting contempt and damnation read the book of Isaiah chapter 26 verse 19 now shake me up for those who lie in the earth but only shake haenam they're only they're temporary they're gonna be brought back from the grave that's the promise and that did not happen in time of Jesus we could be sure there's no relationship between Jesus and what the tonight teaches about Scripture tonight tells us what the Messiah is supposed to do we have text in Isaiah chapter 2 where we are told that the machete the shuffle Bay not going and he'll judge among the nations boy he actually a man robbed him and he is going to teach many many nations and what are they gonna do they're gonna take the swords and the spears and turn them into plowshares and pruning hooks law ye said by our I heard the law you'll module a newcomer nation will not lift up sword against nation neither will they learn of war anymore that's what was I supposed to do not tell us that the man that the temple is going to be destroyed not tell us about destruction of family unity but the world is going to come back together we have we have text in Isaiah chapter 11 I know Carlton believes that these texts are talking about the Messiah that in fact jesse is the root and the Messiah's of the brand and what is he gonna be he's going to be filled with the fear of Hashem well how could the Messiah be God if he's going to fear God this is completely antithetical to the teachings of the Jewish Scriptures I wanted to address Daniel 9 just the context Daniel chapter 9 our chapter of 27 passages begins by telling us that Daniel was contemplating the prophecies of Jeremiah the word of Jeremiah pay attention to the word devar and he was having trouble he tells us that there is in the first year of Darius the Mede this is critical hopefully we'll read it they or what does that have to do with anything and he was contemplating the prophecies of Jeremiah well if it's Darius the Mede who is now the leader that means the Babylonian Empire has collapsed and the Persian Empire the the media Persian Empire has now emerged Daniel is looking at two prophecies in tonight specifically in the Book of Jeremiah one is Jeremiah chapter 25 verse 12 and the other is chapter 29 verse 10 and they both speak of seventy years not seventy weeks Jeremiah chapter 29 verse 10 specifically says that the Jewish people returned back to this land according to the word and then he was looking around he's perplexed the shocked and his heart is filled with fear why because the Babylonian Empire has in fact collapsed meaning that Jeremiah chapter 25 has been fulfilled but nothing's happening the base lamb we're in golos there is not even a hint of any return of the Jewish people and he's petrified he is terrified because what happens if the part of Jeremiah Jeremiah chapter 25 verse 12 has been fulfilled but 29 got him it is not in the milk and what is what is Daniel contemplating what is this worse fear we know it for reading Daniel 9 his worst fear is that the punishment outlined in the Tecla of Leviticus chapter 26 verse 18 is that if you continue to sin I will multiply your punishment seven times which means it's not going to be a seventh year exile government it could be a 490 year exam seven times 17 and as he's praying the angel Gabriel the angel is sent to Daniel and he outlines him a unique part of history the history from the destruction of the first temple until the destruction of the second temple the second temple stood for four hundred and twenty years the Babylonian exile was 70 years and that's why it's describing the destruction of abaya Shaney the second temple if that Anointed One is Jesus he missed it by 40 years whoops the text says specifically that seventy weeks have been decreed upon your people that six things would occur among them is the end of sin the end of sin the church bring about the end the sin that Christians bring about the end of season that Jesus bring about the end of sin has sin ended it did not the prophecy then continues the say the visage Kelman might said lover no and understand that from the going forth it's not the devoured doesn't mean command what is the word devour mean the word they're going to forth lower there's no word command here what word is he talking about it's the word of our Sherman it's the word of Jeremiah that's only found Jeremiah chapter 29 verse 10 what kind of word is this referring do you want to get angel once it's know for sure the hardship the live nights you slay him we're talking about the rebuilding English lion ad the Messiah dogged until an anointed and anointed Prince how long would I be um Shiva seven seven weeks that means from the time and we could go back to Daniel chapter 9 verse 2 from the time of the going forth of the word regarding from the destructive temple until an anointed what comes and he's the one who gives the order to go back and rebuild Jerusalem that will be seven weeks that's how long the weakest a week is is seven years seven weeks is 49 years who arises a half a century after the destruction of the first temple one person his name is Cyrus and it says in Isaiah 45 verse one that Kyra she is my Messiah he is my Anointed One he is going to give the command to go back to me shall I am and to restore Jerusalem and to build the temple in fact Isaiah 45 then is almost devoted to don't question me why I would use someone like Cyrus don't question me why I would use someone who does not who does not know my name it's a part of God's plan now what the church has done it seeks to missionaries tell us that we have in I Daniel chapter 9 we have the precise length the precise time of exactly when the crucifixion would take place but what they do is they conflate seven weeks and sit two weeks when I read it to you over here but Live Nation slammer chef nugget Shibuya Shiva seven weeks period isn't that snack that there there's a stop and then for and then for shisha bush name then for sixty two weeks four hundred and thirty four years Tasha even if Lisa L who you'll read be returned and they'll be rebuilt reliable hurts Street month but with psycho eaten but in trouble times and what the church did was it took the seven weeks and then it took sixty two weeks inflated them as though there's one anointed one spoken Aaron as there isn't there are two in fact this happened in hundreds of years ago because the original King James 1611 has a semicolon there and in 1769 it was taken out and conflated I've asked the question and many times and that is if we find clearly in Daniel 9 as Christian missionaries tell us all the time an exact prediction of when there's gonna be a crucifixion if that's the case why isn't there one writer in the Christian Bible that mentions this do you really think Paul went yeah not important enough does anyone truly believe that Matthew whatever would ever go yeah if there is a prediction but it's not there the answer is they didn't they they come up with a vision of Memphis before in fact the first person to ever mention this so-called prophecy about Jesus was the archbishop of it was in France at the time in 180 that's our earliest time you're telling me that Justin never thought about it the author dedicate never thought this was interesting enough that Clement around these are very early books they often call the past our fathers they just didn't think this was important of and if you're not sure when I'm Tigers crack read the next passage verse 26 arias Shaboom shishun was ngayon he chorus machete after the sixty-two weeks doesn't say the sixty-two and seven an annoying to the one will be cut off you know what the King James does it puts it it says the word Messiah it puts a capital M there and puts a definite article that doesn't exist there isn't any such thing as a capital letter in a ingre language that I brought with me this is in fact Daniel chapter 9 verse 24 and 25 from the original King James 1611 it has gone under numerous revisions over the years which is fine the language is updated but this was changed here you could see in verse 25 that the semicolon is there they knew it and someone changed it after how do you change the Word of God and if you gonna change my Bible you think I want anything to do with you do you think I want anything to do with with these kinds of teachings and then we are displayed with confidence of you is the last week that last week from the end of the the war of the Armenians succession from 63 to 70 that last week is divided in half they make a coven that a covenant is made with the great ones but something happens and a half a week and I would call this house what that is I'll tell you exactly what happened in 66 and 66 there was destruction there was a war award reward that was raged right where we are right now machetes removed meaning and anointed one is removed the word machette appears 20 pairs 13 239 times and tada it has never referred to who we called the Mushaf today that doesn't mean the Messiah has not anointed was the temple in fact destroyed it was in 70 and that works out perfectly I would like to know what temple was destroyed in the a 30 we know exactly when the base I think this was destroyed we know exactly what happened in 66 we have a precise prophecy in Daniel chapter 9 Carleton discussed Jeremiah chapter 31 Jeremiah chapter 31 says that in fact thus saith the Lord God is speaking here both to the house of Israel and Judah to both because it is in the messianic age and I'll make a new covenant with you know like the old cover they made with you when it took you out of Egypt and it says they'd be quoted it correctly but Northey faulty bump although I was a husband to you you rejected me the author of Hebrews whoever he was they didn't like those words and the author of Hebrews in Chapter 8 change those were to say although I rejected you how do you change a husband to two I rejected you what is the purpose why does Hebrews do this because of the last passage in Hebrews chapter eight because what is all the wax of the way and then disappears how do you change the Word of God how do you alter it and if you're gonna play with my Bible if you coulda tamper it you think I'm gonna convert the Christianity you think I'm gonna join this movement how would I turn my back on the God of Israel when the text miss quotes our scripture carlton discussed about the prophecy of matthew chapter 1 verse 23 happy 1:23 we are told that jesus is born with one of two infancy narratives found in the New Testament of Matthew and Luke and that Jesus was born of a virgin he was conceived as such math he wants us to know that this is not an arbitrary event that the Messiah is was conceived miraculously I want you to know it's a fulfillment of the Jewish Scriptures it was foretold in ural Testament young man that the Messiah would be conceived to a virgin and he quotes Isaiah chapter 7 verse 14 he a howl mahara behold what I think I heard the word maiden so may there's a word that I don't think we use very much conventionally doing but amazing implies that it's like a maiden voyage what does that mean at verse a first voyage but Matthew says behold a young Elizabeth child and shall bear a son Nicole's name Emmanuel as it turns out the word virgin is not in the text the word maiden isn't in attacks that word is the young woman ho alma means though young woman it's another word that we find very open in tonight it's found 9 times and in fact inside proverbs chapter 31 with proverbs chapter 31 about a Shazz high-heeled me and so it's about a woman of Valor very unique woman we sing about her every Friday night well proverbs chapter 30 verse 19 20 tell us about a woman who's not such a nation say oh she's in fact the cave this is the way of a giver with an Alamo such as the way of an adulterous woman who commits the sin wipes her mouth and says I've done nothing wrong that is quite a virgin the word LM is using tonight twice in First Samuel chapter 17 verse 56 and 20 verse 22 and who is the elemets the masculine version of Alma that's a dove it was David also a virgin and if he was a virgin somehow why does not the King James translate the word Elam as a virgin in 1st Samuel 17 verse 56 and 20 verse 22 I'll tell you exactly why there's no theological benefit from Chaney besides this absurdity there's no theological benefit for doing man so he's called a lad was rifling but some kind of word that means nothing moreover Isaiah chapter 7 has nothing to do with the coming of the Messiah Isaiah chapter 7 is describing a civil war i has love the king the nation was trembling because the northern kingdom had conspired together with with syria not us syria and they were now going to go to war they wanted to show you slain they wanted to destroy a house they wanted to destroy the house of David I guess is a very wicked King one of the worst of all but Hashem had a promise and the promise is that nothing could happen tomorrow stupid nothing had happened to the Davidic Kingdom second samuel chapter seven verse 12 of 16 it is impossible and therefore you Shia or not we came to be that house he came with he keep it was a boy there came with his son his name is Shari Yasha the remnant will remain in Isaiah chapter 7 verse 3 why would he come with schoiarship why would the Bible mention this because Shari or should means the revit will return all these names that we find in tonight given to the prophets our signs - the food the children of Israel read Isaiah chapter 8 verse 18 and the verse that follows Isaiah chapter 7:14 is cream and honey with a child eat what he knows to reject bed and choose good probably floor he knows to jack and jack bed and choose good these two kings will be destroyed explain to us how this could be possibly referring to Jesus the answer is that Matthew had changed our Jewish Scriptures in order to make them appear christological and I'm gonna say to you something that was very odd and that is it could be said it could be said that there was possibly no person in human history that was more responsible for the rejection of Jesus on behalf of the Jewish people then the author of the book of Matthew had the book of the author of Matthew have never written and that book had never been seen possibly many many Jewish people might have hasta some convert to Christianity but Matthew because of these fulfillment citations that all thank the Jewish people have to say this has nothing to do with the Word of God cuz I cuz for who keeps his promise he never changes mind God is not a man that all changes my numbers chapter 23 verse 19 so it's in fact as it turns out that Matthew oops awaits of his super let them come up with a plan the souffle it'll fail da brood oven let him talk hello Yoko it will not be compass ye and here's our key word key he mono al there's a manual doesn't mean God is with us it means that country brothers weren't watching over us he's keeping us and he has kept this promise and here we are nice lame and the God of Israel has never broken his word to call you sir Oh have we here burro Hashem and God has preserved specifically those Jews could reject the teachings of the church and those Jews who embrace the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob thank you so much for joining us here today thank you very much and we down by the Royalton again for 15 minutes rabbi tobias spoke about Christians killing Jews and it's true I'm not proud about it but you know the same Christian Church killed they say between 50 to 80 million Christians if someone says I believe the Bible is the sole basis for our faith they'd be burned at the stake so yes it's it's great sound by saying the Christians killed Jews they killed Bible believing Christians there is a eight volume set called foxes Book of Martyrs I live in Birmingham where the original of those stories of the martyrs have existed so it's not just Jews that have been killed by Christians and so dirt rejects the Christian view of the scriptures because one set and in fact Martin Luther changed from the Roman Catholic Church started the Reformation but still hated Jews he was still steeped in error so please don't reject the New Testament just because unfortunately Jews have been killed by them I was gonna escape okay okay so rabbi also mentioned that the transformation of the world didn't happen in or by ad 34mm you know so I've looked to term Islam a little bit and this is what the Quran says in it says this is a book that we've revealed and this is supposedly allah saying i revealed this book follow its guard against this verse 1 5 6 of chapter 6 or surah 6 ayah 156 lest you say the book was only revealed to two parties before that's the jews and the christians so Muslims are taught that Allah gave holy books to the Jews and the Christians they read about it and in chapter 3 verses 45 to 50 speaking about ISA or Jesus he speaks in the cradle as a baby this is according the Quran not that I agree with this he makes a bird by permission of Allah and it goes on to say I've come to you with a sign from your Lord therefore be careful of your duty to Allah and obey me so Muslims are to obey ISA so just like Christians are to read and study Jews and Judaism John 4:22 Muslims are to also read the Bible and obey Jesus it's not going to happen straight away this is taking place over time I went to Kenya last year and did some charity work with a group of Sikhs and so looks into their holy book the city guru granth save page 1083 practice within your heart to the message to sikhs practice within your heart the teaching to the Quran and the Bible so a Sikh is to practice the teachings of the Bible the page 1350 do not say the Vedas the Bible the Koran force those who do not contemplate them are false so a seek is to read these documents contemplate them and make up their own mind and so I have a friend of its University with and he's constantly talking about Jesus and the Lord's Prayer and he's learning from Jesus the world is learning about Jesus now I'm I'm a little confused Daniel knows the 70 years of captivity have come to an end and Gabriel says seventy weeks and it's as if you're ignoring the first 49 years and yet those 70 years of gun so how is a 70 week prophecy 1498 prophecy how are you cutting off the first few weeks leading up to the building of the temple I don't understand we might have to discuss this afterwards now you say that Cyrus came for tea how many years after 49 years after the Babylonian Empire came to an end but my understanding is they were so Darius and Cyrus were Coe Regents and in fact in Daniel chapter 10 verse 1 it says that Daniel lived until the first year of Cyrus so he's Daniel 70 years of captivity plus the 49 years up to Cyrus according to Daniel chapter 10 plus he was 16 maybe 18 years of age so is he a hundred 37 years old that's his at his death so I agree there's one start date and one end date but the start date of the 490 years must be after the end of the 70 year period so you mentioned that the the the proxy about Jerusalem being restored yes there are many prophecies about the people of Israel Ezekiel 36 being brought back being scattered being brought back being scattered being brought back but the only one that gives you a time ie the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled is that prophecy in Luke now we haven't got time to go into when is the times of the Gentiles when it start when is it finish but there are three references in the New Testament to the start of the time the Gentiles and the time of the Gentiles being fulfilled so this prophecy is adding further detail to those old testement prophecies about Jews be scattered and then brought back you didn't address those it it seems that you spent a lot of time talking about things you disagree with and yet if we look at the temple idea the if you're expecting one fulfillment and the New Testament says that actually it wasn't the temple that was destroyed at that time but Christ putting his body to death then doesn't that fulfill John the Baptist saying behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world if John the Baptist is calling him the Lamb of God and in the Old Testament if you committed a sin it was the death of the Lamb that forgave your sins can you not see that that link between the symbolism of the Old Testament rituals and Christ's life you also mentioned that there are prophecies about what the Messiah would do and it's as if you don't seem to recognize some of these happen after there is a complete restoration of God's kingdom so there are prophecies prior to the complete restoration and then after the destruction of the wicked then you have entire harmony those are two different phases it's as if you're saying that everything comes to pass on one day and then that the new phase starts so there are different prophecies for different times and you mentioned commas and semicolons I'm not defending the King James translators but as far as I'm aware are there commas and semicolons in Hebrew are there commas and semicolons in Hebrew okay let me quickly show you something then Bible I'll just go to Genesis chapter 1 Genesis 1 so the original Hebrew was or you can't see that so let me drag it onto the screen the original Hebrew was not that which came out of Babylon it was in fact pictographic so I can't see any commas or semicolons there the original Hebrew the pictographic Hebrew was in fact Universal not spoken in that pictures paid a thousand words the original Hebrew Scriptures were pictures where are the commas and the semi colons they would have come from the scholars who in order to try to say how to pronounce the words in Babylon came up with the additional characters but the Hebrew that Moses spoke was pictographic I would like to see the semicolons and commas that Moses used in the pictographic Hebrew you asked what happened in the middle of the last week so the last week began with the anointing of the Messiah at the baptism that Jesus received by John the Baptist the middle of the week was his death and resurrection and then approximately three and half years later Stephen was stoned in effect it's the sum of the Jews rejecting the testimony of Stephen that Jesus Christ was in fact the Messiah you mentioned the 66 AD and then you said that the temple is destroyed in 70 AD that doesn't sound like a prophecy of the Bible when a Bible prophecy is made it is fulfilled to the year not 4 years later so I'm really struggling to understand how your seventy weeks are fulfilled in 66 and yet the temples destroyed four years later as I've already said I don't endorse change to the Hebrew Scriptures but how are we to study the Bible Isaiah chapter 28 and verse 10 we are to read here a little here a little very little very little line upon line precept upon precept if we want to understand anything we take every reference in the Bible on that topic put them together they are pieces in a jigsaw puzzle you don't just make a decision on a single verse so we should follow Isaiah's advice and then they come and semicolon here and there when put in the entire picture of all the verses makes complete sense so yes what the King James translators did in in Hebrews chapter 8 is wrong but when you put all those texts together about the New Covenant from Jeremiah from Romans as we look to Romans chapter 2 we looked at earlier then we get the full picture that's New Covenant is it going to be fulfilled at some point in the future or are people responding to the Holy Spirit as they did in Moses time most of you know I wish that all gods people are filled in the spirit so the spirit that Christ said he would send when he returned to heaven has been seen around the world there are miracles that take place inside see description that take place through the influence of the Holy Spirit so actually you ain't on to explain emmanuel so I did ask why focus on young woman in Isaiah 7:14 but the sense in which Matthew uses Emmanuel is no different to the way that you use it of the king so someone who is living it's not saying that it is God who is living but the character of God is being displayed in the life of Jesus Christ and again I'll ask please criticize something you've seen Jesus do or say so that I can understand what what the problem is with him if he is the Messiah and he's portraying the ways of God and there are many people even the six who do charity work seeks our 2% of the population of India 67% of all chattable giving in India is done by the Sikhs why are they doing such charitable things why are Christians supposed to love one another yes there are six that kill but the majority of Christians are like that they're patterning their lives on Jesus Christ is that something that's bad and terrible so this is my last okay so if the Jews have been the anointed ones who have taken the message to the world how many Gentile men have ever become Jews and by that I'm looking at the thing that has to take place surgically for them to convert now isn't the real essence of this Judaism conversion is how many have had a circumcised heart isn't that what God wants from his people to have circumcised hearts men and women young and old but we live in harmony with his principles you know Emanuel was one of the messages Emanuel is the message of God - primarily the Jews the name Yeshua Jesus Savior is primarily to non-jews but it's supposed to unite us he said at the Last Supper it is finished I finished the work which you gave me to do he said in John 17 verse 3 so he showed us how to live in manual livers God would want us to live live loving each other forgiving each other being kind to each other and he also said it's finished when he's on the cross because he is the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world and he died to save a saw so yeah I think that will do so thank you all very much I think I have a better understanding of how a mosquito must feel in a nudist colony he must be saying stuff I don't know where to begin [Music] they don't mean that in any way disparaging about cotton is a very fine gentleman I've enjoyed his company and I'm enriched by it he spent a lot of time speaking together nothing that I say god forbid should be in any way construed to characterize Carlton in a way other than he's a man who seeks after Hashem there's my prayer for you you come to the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob you embrace the Jewish faith and you will reject to Christianity probably conceded that in fact so many so many hundreds of millions have been murdered by the church by the followers of Jesus not just Jews this is true not every victim of the church was the Jew but every Jew was the victim scripture tells us what the Messiah supposed to do how he would change the world I will cut off the chariot of Ephraim and the horses of war from you schleimann and what will happen and he will speak peace unto the nations and his rule people under the sea from the river to the ends of the earth and that did not happen was very antithesis of what occurred Carlton had mentioned in his presentation that Jesus is the sin sacrifice the Passover lamb you'll find that in fact not Matthew not mark not Lu fact find that in John it's unique to John John of the Gospels as John chapter 1 verse 29 and it was close of verse 36 as well but the Passover lamb is not a sin sacrifice it was a sacrifice bought for righteousness where does it say in scripture in X's chapter 12 that the Passover lamb was brought percent it was the opposite why was a Passover if I brought now the word offerings for sin but the presence of a sacrifice was not person the lamb was treated was characterized was a worshipped among the Egyptians as a God and harming a land would have value would have been dead if you were to harm the lamb in fact when Pharaoh s Moses in Exodus chapter 8 verse 25 and 26 why do you have to go out to the wilderness to bring you up brings bring them here here in Egypt why do you have to go anywhere and moisture all of us all Moses our teacher said because if we do that you're gonna kill us you do this owners right here and therefore the Jewish people were faced with a dilemma they could see the Egyptian armies around them they would have put them to death for killing the lamb their God and they will order to take the glam and to kill it to slaughter it and put the blood on the out of the door so everyone could see it was a test of faith would you fear the God of Israel more than the armies of the Egyptians that you could see would you bear the Egyptians so those who are virtuous those who are willing to publicly display their devotions Hashem and that they didn't fear the Egyptian those are the ones who are saying that it wasn't a sin offering there's no mention of this this is an idea that would in fact we could find in the first Corinthians 10 11 we could fight that in John this is an idea that's uniquely Christian it's not found in the Jewish Scriptures but we do find in the Jewish Scriptures that the Messiah is supposed to bring peace to the world will be a complete transformation in the world we find we find none of that in the Christian Bible I want to speak a moment about the columns and commas the text in Daniel chapter 9 the angel Gabriel is speaking and he is responding to a prayer of Daniel the text specifically says the saint of a hostile midnight sudeva that no one understand from the going for the Lord the harsh of the live masseuse I am awed the mashiac nugget until an anointed prince that Cyrus um Shiva seven weeks period now he said Khan said well we don't have an ancient Hebrew we don't have commas but how do you say 69 in Hebrew nobody says 69 seven weeks and then 70 then sixty-two weeks no one speaks that way it's after the sixty-two weeks that in fact that an anointed one is cut off that means in what universe is the word the number six night conveyed by 760 and to that's the point it's after the seven weeks after the full period from the destruction of the first temple until Cyrus emerges past a half a century have to pass by and then it continues on until the destruction of the temple is which is initiated in the half a week that we find in Daniel chapter 9 verse 26 and verse 27 so of course we don't in the Hebrew in the Dead Sea Scrolls for example which long predate the mess erotic text of course we don't find commas and semicolons stand that when the text says will be seven weeks that's a stop and then it says and sixty-two weeks it'll be rebuilt Street moat in what language do you say 69 by saying 72 and 60 it doesn't exist whether it's a branch will be slough off nerve whether it be in German nine and Zechs akin what language do you express 69 by saying of seven two and sixty it doesn't exist as I said the King James in 1611 had the semicolon there whose obvious moreover if we were dealing with one anointed one then why would verse 26 a and after the sixty-two weeks it would say after the 69 weeks we'll say F of the seven sixty and two weeks we see explicitly from the text that there's a stop we seek sicily there are two anointed ones one who comes after Cyrus and one who is removed and anointed priests that's removed therefore the sacrifices come to an end we know exactly when that occurred [Music] therefore we ask ourselves where is this passage that describes the coming of Messiah or a killing on the site we have no such verse we talk about the church at that brought light to the world I can't imagine institution that has diminished from the light of the world what is the role of the Jewish people why are we here to be lawyers and doctors and businessman that's not what we're after made I ignore my Shem you are my witnesses declares Lord I'm the chef of hearty my servant whom I have chosen what is the purpose of why are we here so that you should know if I say that but I mean Willie and you should believe in me and you should understand that there was no God form before me and will be no God after me next verse I know if he I even I am the Lord and besides me there is no other Savior they as it tells us in Isaiah chapter 40 in Isaiah chapter 46 verse 9 think about earlier times there is no one else besides me there is nothing else nothing nothing before be enough nothing after me that's what the scripture says and the church teaches that there is a man who could become God then we have to run away from there because scripture says that God cannot be a man that cannot happen and therefore I I hope I pray that we are we are we are certainly living in a unique time it is my hope I feel the spreading of the light to the world that will be Zuko we married to see the coming of the true Messiah the Harbor Maine oh thank you you