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Hello everyone and welcome back to
Inside Art Scroll where the books you
read and the people who write them come
to life. Today I am honored to be joined
by Rabbi Schlomma Landau, author of the
new book Flashes of Inspiration. Thank
you, for allowing me to interview you in
honor of this new book.
>> It's like déja vu all over again. Yes.
Thank you for coming by.
>> But this is really your cheer. You've
done a masterful job since taking over
as the host of Inside Arts Scroll. And
again, it's an honor to be here to speak
to you.
>> Thank you. And I think when I
interviewed you for your book, Moments
of Greatness, which I kind of feel this
is, it's a moment of greatness.
>> Um I told you that like I felt like I
was jipped on my first book because I
didn't have an interview with you.
>> So at that point, you said, "You know
what? your next book.
>> Yes,
>> I'll come in. So, thank you for making
it on your
>> words. I'm I'm happy to be here. And Bar
Hashem, you're putting out a new book, I
would say, in pretty close succession to
your first. It's only about a year or
so, right?
>> It's a year in. And I I did not think
that things would come together so
quickly. I to it's to like you said,
it's total satis.
And I'm sure you experienced this with
some of your books, like once you write
a book which has some good stories,
people want to people want to share
their stories with you. Um, and I got an
outpouring of beautiful, heartwarming
real life stories from people. And I
just said, I got to get this out. And I
sat down. We all know this. It takes
focus and it takes time. And I really,
you know, put pen to paper or how do you
say it in more modern terms and bar it's
it's a book uh with great stories, very
inspirational stories. And the cute part
is that the last story is kind of like I
don't even know how you say that. It's
like it's much longer than the rest of
them. So, you end off with a story
that's off the charts,
>> but it a beautiful heartwarming brings
tears to your eyes, but it's a journey.
It's not just a short story. You got to
sit down and really internalize it and
when you get up, you're going to be like
in a different place.
>> Do you find that putting together
stories for your second book that you
were more selective than you were for
your first book?
>> 100%. I think the first book was just
like I'm not an author. I didn't go to
college to learn how to write. No one
ever taught me like what a book's
supposed to have and I just said a bunch
of them I'm going to put down all the
stories that mean are meaningful to me
and I'll try to put them in a decent
order and uh let's see what happens
>> and that was my first book and flashes
of greatness and but afterwards I think
I learned and to give credit to Gdal
Zado and the team they definitely gave
me constructive criticism in the most
beautiful and gentle way you know how
work things work at Arts and I took some
of it to heart um and I also said you
know what I'm not rushed I want to make
sure that the stories that come out are
the right type of stories and not every
single story that I had did I put into
the book.
>> Mhm.
>> So I tried to be a little bit more
selective.
>> Now remember when we spoke about my book
you asked me how I go about writing a
book.
>> Correct.
>> So I'll ask you the same thing. How do
you go about writing a book? It's it's a
daunting task. It's a lot to undertake
to just sit down and write a book. So
how do you compile those stories? And
also where do you get your material
from?
>> So both of those are excellent
questions. So maybe a good way to
explain it is I try every single day
besides Shabas obviously and there's
exceptions to put out a daily video azik
video which people could sign up for a
huge distribution. It's usually a story
an insight uh a real life piece of you
know a boost or something like that. So
I'm always looking for content
>> and I always I'm looking at and
periodicals in Hebrew in English just
like I'm always looking for them because
I I kind of feel like a certain to the
people who kind of many people said I
start off my day with this and this
really it it transforms my day each day.
I feel like I have an responsibility at
least in my mind my own head and so I'm
always looking. M
>> so when you're looking and you're
putting in the effort, you know, says,
"Okay, you're putting in the effort.
We're trying to help you." And a lot of
stories come up. Not all the stories
that come up do I feel are appropriate
for a small little daily video or
they're too good,
>> right?
>> I want to get them in writing.
>> I want them that someone could pick it
up in 10 years. They're not going to see
my video. So, I'll save it for that.
>> I'll say also that like I try to do like
once a week uh for Torah anytime I do
like a para share very practical, you
know, more more misa than makava, right?
And I always research for that too. So
by topic. So I'm always coming up with
stories. That's research wise. Um and
then people like I said before people
really have been telling me stories.
It's such a you know I'm I've been
working a little bit with vi and people
always stop me and tell me vine stories.
And more often than not they're not my
stories. They're just stories of Jewish
greatness of human greatness. So I'm
able to share those further. I don't I'm
not like you. I'm not as regimented that
I sit down and I write You're a much
more mislead guy.
>> I'm not so sure.
>> But I I I go and if I find a story that
lights me on fire, I can't get the
shabas without putting it down.
>> Very smart.
>> So, I will make time, even if it's late
at night or I got to cram it in some
someplace while I'm traveling, whatever
it is, I'll make sure that I have that
down. Um, so much so that these days
I'll just talk the story into my into my
phone so I know I have it
>> and then I could take it off of that.
And with technology, by the way, you can
even take text off of off of audio. So
at least I have a framework to start
with.
>> It's funny. I find that the harder part
of this whole process,
>> yes,
>> of collecting the stories and writing
the stories are getting the stories. To
me, it's the writing part that's
invigorating because I'm sitting there
and I'm actually bringing the story to
life. To me, that became the exciting
part, not such a t not such not so much
of the tedious part. I find that the
tedious part is actually getting the
story, verifying the story, speaking to
the protagonists when it's possible to
do so. I'm just curious to go to your
your video for a second. When you record
the videos, do you do you have a
transcript? Do you use a teleprompter?
Do you speak uh extemporaneously? What's
your mileage?
>> I take my iPhone, I put it on a tripod,
>> I put on a microphone and I talk uh once
in a while. I I say I maybe I ed if I
stumble, I'll edit it out, which takes
me five minutes. I just use my phone to
do that.
>> Um but it's very not professional.
>> Um
>> I I would I would tend to disagree. I
think you do a great job. You're very
smooth
>> and and you I barely sense any sense any
type of uh discomfort or you know
uncertainty. You're you're very good at
it.
>> I'll be vulnerable. This morning I I
shared a story, a beautiful story. I
It's beyond the scope of this discussion
here. Buy book three. It'll be in there.
Um and [laughter]
and I started say it was a little bit of
a complex story. It had many moving
pieces. And I started saying it and it
didn't go. And I started saying it again
and it didn't go. And I started saying
it a third time. I could show you on my
phone. I have like five takes and I just
said a bunch of them like I don't have
time today. I'm doing this. I think
you know
please give me articulate speech. Boom.
And it just it flowed.
>> And sometimes there's no rhyme or
reason. No.
>> You could prepare and it doesn't go
well. You cannot prepare and sometimes
it goes smoothly. You're talking about
Vimay. I I recall myself sitting in the
Vayan studio recording some of those
videos. Sometimes it just goes and
sometimes you turn to the videographer
and you say, "Okay, we we got to start
again." Right? And you never really
know.
>> And the coolest part is when you record
and you don't think you did a good
enough job, so you ask if you could
re-record and then they end up using the
first one.
>> Sure. [laughter] Sure. Sure.
>> We try. We put an effort.
>> Right. Right. Right. There's something
about these interviews, for example,
where it's not scripted.
>> Correct.
>> And where it's raw that people like.
>> For sure.
>> And then you have these videos which
really have to be flawless because
that's what people are expecting. So
it's a different expectation, but you do
a fabulous job uh on those videos and we
enjoy them very much.
>> Can I just double click on something
that you said?
I also enjoy the writing process. It's
tedious. I'm not a great I'm not a great
typer.
>> I mean, great. I think I'm average.
Certain people, they just sit on their
computer. I'm sure Spiro types when he
sleeps. You know, he just his fingers go
on and he's got it. So, it's a little
tedious for me. Um, at the same time,
there were definitely a few stories that
I wrote in this book that by the time I
finished writing the story, I mamish had
a lump in my throat. the writing
process, getting it out, yeah, was
emotional. And I said to myself, a bunch
of like the people that read it, they
should just feel what I felt when I
wrote it. And and I realized that when
Yakobi was just here, we interviewed him
a little while ago. And Yakov said to
me, he says the same thing. You know,
when he when he records, he records with
so much passion. What do you mean you're
in a room and you're all by yourself and
there's a microphone? He said, "No, if
you record with her, with feeling and
with passion, when the person listens to
that song, they hear that in a
subconscious or subtle way, and it's
much more impactful."
>> So, it's a I think I I agree 100%. I
find people comment on writing that they
say that a lot. And and I know when when
I'm writing with passion that people are
going to read that passion. When you
write with emotion, people are going to
read that emotion. But that's uh
>> I feel that with your that comment.
Yeah, I feel sometimes like I feel like,
"Oh my gosh, he for sure wrote this with
her."
>> Yeah, I I I find it. I find it. And and
like you said, sometimes it goes,
sometimes it doesn't. I don't think
there's a rhyme or reason. Um you know,
the the term writer's block exists for a
reason. Sure. It doesn't always go so
smoothly. And
sometimes you write a story and you
scrap it and you start over again. So,
but can I know her your book? I I would
not be able to I think you're being too
humble about your writing. You write
beautifully. It flows. It's human. It's
not too complex. You don't have to
overthink. It just it's it's a really a
pleasure to read. U but I want to talk
about you for a second because we didn't
interview for the last book. Many people
know your face. They know your videos.
They know your your columns. They know
your book now. Now your second book. Um
give us a little background into how you
you ended up where you are now. You work
for Olami, so you're very involved in
Kiruv. Um, and you're impacting many
people on a daily basis. What was your
journey to get where you are now?
>> Thanks for the opportunity. No one ever
asked me that. [laughter]
And like I always I always say when I
speak like you know I'm tell I'm going
to share with you something personal
because I love talking about myself.
[laughter] So um grew up in a regular
beautiful amazing mishbaha in Cleveland,
Ohio. Um our home was the epicenter of
it still is in the town like all the
leftovers from Simka has just come to my
dining room before Shabas. All the
leftovers from the bakeries come
literally an hour before Shabas. could
picture that scene. Our dining room
floor full of pastries and kala. It gets
sent to the Cleveland poor. My parents
are tremendous balas and my grandparents
tremendous balas. So I grew into up in a
home that loved yadin and loved giving.
Um and had a very typical upbringing
went to school in those days that was
called most. I was the first class in
that school. Um although the Hebrew
Academy which is the other school is
amazing school. That's where my parents
decided to send me. Then I went to Tels.
In in my days I don't know if you
remember this high school started in 8th
grade. We were dorming at the age of 12
>> learning sulanis first barking subus in
eighth grade
>> um and I stayed in tal where my father
um went and where we actually lived the
first 10 formative years of my life we
live by the yeshiva
>> on the campus
>> we actually lived down the hill which
was where the kyo guys lived my father
was a professional but he wanted to
raise his children in that insular
community and it was a beautiful
community special community one of the
best memories tells for seven plus years
um straight through bmedish Um I'm old
enough that the entire front of the base
medish was all European refus
I had to learn
>> rev giftg was American but
>> to me he was you know he brought the
European European [clears throat]
correct although his English was
something we all dreamed about you know
and then I learned with Isaac for two
years it was it was
>> David Barkin was in
>> David Barkin was my rebi larger than
life a we really out of smoozen and
yiddesh like it was it from a it
you know, a world that's no longer here,
I think.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, and just a lot of lot of learning
and a lot of Tyra. And just to get a
credit, we're tella, we had three hours
of secular studies, 8th grade through
12th grade.
>> And I really credit learning how to
write grammar, vocabulary to those those
three three hours. Ref. Gifter would
start us off. I don't know if you know
this, R. gifted would come into the ma
which was a high school base medish
right before we went our first day of
English and he would give a firestorm
how if we have this in your schedule
it's not built to and how Rabaka told
his own son you must learn the language
of the land how we are the ambassadors
of Tyra to the world around us and if
we're articulate
>> and we're able to speak and write the
kdesh hashem is immeasurable and it went
into my bones and I can't tell you I was
the most amazing student but I always
liked writing and I liked lit literary
things and I really feel that my just
being able to write something that's you
know
something came from
>> tal sure so and then you have gift
giving those smoo in where you just
>> powerful you know you just
>> I don't think I ever knew that that gift
would give like the octo
>> every single year of my high school
career
>> that is great
>> and I think if I'm not mistaken at least
in for the first few years there was no
such thing as being too too into
learning to go you had to go if you were
the best like
They were sat with me three day three
hours a day
>> and Tel gave snack first. So you went
into there with a little bit of ka some
milk and cookies and 4:15 to 7:15 it was
learning and they had real teachers and
a real curriculum and times have changed
obviously but it was it was good. We
learned um then I did something really
strange after B medish. I uh I went to
Panovich which is not at all typical for
your typical American buffer. I had
European relatives who were the top
people there and I was there for two
plus years and there was nothing else of
an besart though was barely falafel you
[laughter] know and that was
>> who do you hear she from
>> so I heard kabur from pavarski
>> but ra was still alive and giving shir
kal it was right at the his last you
know few years so that itself was a it
was so I'll never forget Rashak getting
up there with not being able to breathe
he had no kayak from being slept from
his partner imamish was panting and he
would try to get the words of the Mishna
out. He couldn't and finally he got it
out and within 60 seconds he was roaring
>> like a lion cub. It was just I'll never
forget these things or Kiper and yeshiva
just dominating everything. 7:00 shakras
on Shabas morning.
>> Wow.
>> Punisher says the only mistake in the
yeshiva was that um it was formative. It
was it was definitely
>> but I can't imagine there were many
American bakim. Right.
>> We had a handful of American bakim and
European bakim. But I gained a lot and I
also at the same time went to a bunch of
kaburas from different people who were
more into makava. I went to a like a
clandestine for
unbelievable in someone's house. No one
was not know about it. But I learned
from a lot heard from
sometimes
like these were
learning in literally the window of my
dormatory faced.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So you could wake up in the
morning and let's I I went from and
asked him Shilas like you know it was it
was a different time.
>> Yeah.
>> Um then eventually got married and met
my wife and then we moved back and for
five years I lived in Israel lisk by
remember and share with him. I also got
smika um you know yada and the last two
years I did something called nerf which
is on some iteration is still around
which is a curve training thing for for
for himite and um and not intending to
go into curve just I wanted like all the
yada I wanted the knowledge and I wanted
whatever they could give you and um I
drank the Kool-Aid
>> well
>> and after two years I I came to Lakewood
and the yeshivida had a cure called Toro
links amazing organization and I started
working for them right away. Um and we
lived in liquid for a few years and then
we moved to East Brunswick, New Jersey
where we lived for almost two decades,
built a beautiful care of community
alongside a huge satell.
I also um at the same time had this of
starting to teach high school in the
modern orthodox world
>> and I taught at a school called Maze and
then subsequently a great school called
Kushner. Uh love that like that's one of
my biggest boys right now is not being
in the classroom every day, you know,
teaching. Um, and slowly but surely Kush
Bar gave me success and people listened.
>> Wow.
>> And
>> but that's interesting. So the the bulk
of your years of raising your family was
done in a kiru community.
>> 100%.
>> In East Brunswick.
>> In East Brunswick. We didn't move to
Lakewood till just a few years ago.
Right.
>> Yeah. I mean my children, my older
children particularly, this was their
childhood. A house that was open. Nirva
guests in our house. Um, Davening where
we announced the pages and sometimes did
things in English. Rashanim Kipper
initially in a in a gym as you say down
it was a slam dunk and you know yes very
much and what's fascinating is that on
some level it was a little isolating
they weren't with their you know
necessarily in a typical mainstream
yeshivish community uh and we were so
excited for them when we moved back that
they would have that but there was a big
void in their life a meaningful void
like
>> you're saying you miss some of that now
>> I miss it and they missed it too they
miss it too
>> they missed a Friday night with sudo
with with a family that never had chabas
in their life and seeing the the joy in
their eyes or or the wonderment of a
three-year-old say or escala, you know,
or chuned for the first time.
>> Sure.
>> Or Kipper being with people who are so
disconnected, but by the time
>> Ela comes around, the place is roaring
and people are emotionally involved.
They're just certain rich experiences
that my children
>> they miss. I miss too. what what event
what ultimately made you make that
decision to move back to Lakewood into a
regular from community?
>> So, I think we we felt that there was a
little bit of a void for our children
just yet with all the amazing
experiences.
>> It was it was tough shabas and just not
being able to get out of your house and
go to to the kids who you're class with
and just the basic social part of it was
very challenging and
>> it was a very difficult decision. Um,
Revelia Rodney was really the person
that we talked to a lot and credit I
credit him for, you know, helping us
make that decision. Um, and I miss it a
lot. Hashem, when one door closes,
another door opens. And's been so kind
to us over the last few years. Like,
>> um, my job with me is amazing. Um, I'm
I'm building a global community of
mentors of from men and women,
professionals who mentor our non-f
students and young professionals.
>> And that's your that's your day-to-day
responsibility. So, literally bringing
Cla together. It's the most inspiring
thing to see some of the busiest people
who have extremely successful careers,
large families, but you you give them
the opportunity to to make an impact on
someone for half an hour a week and
they're thanking you.
>> You know, it's so it's so inspiring. CL
is so special. And at this point, we
have about 2,000 pairs around the world
in Latin America, Arrol, Russia,
England, United States, and Canada. I
wrote a curriculum for that kind of the
strategy. So that's very exciting part
of my life. And like I said over wonder
closes and another or opened and then
all of a sudden a kashra was like okay
you gave a lot of speeches and classes
in east Brunswick let's see what you
could do in the broader community
>> right
>> so I do teach twice a week in two great
in in a in a high energy ma 12th grade
hashkafa I teach a few times a week in
Mayan a wonderful school for girls who
are on their own journey and then just
bra has just been so kind in terms of
opportunities to speak and I read a
column a weekly story in a newspaper and
this inside art scroll and just like I A
lot of good things happening.
>> I'm I'm I'm infinitely grateful. I don't
deserve it. It's it's a gift. It's
mamaish gift.
>> But let me ask you, you know, it's
interesting. So much of what you do
from Alami to your other contributions
to Claus involve giving inspiration to
others. It's it's a lot of giving.
>> Where does someone like you how do you
fuel yourself? Where do you get your and
inspiration? You know, you you have to
fuel yourself in order to give over.
you're asking probably the single most
important question. Um I'm there's
really two strategies. So I just want to
say that when I started working in Kir
when I was in art um in this k training
program I became very close to someone
by the name of Rabbi Gersinfeld. He is
Rashid Makon Schlommo. He's a his wife
Schwab.
And I just I felt like when I'm going
into Kiev I need someone who understands
Kir.
And Rabbi Gersinfeld um told me at some
point he's like because I was telling I
was complaining to him that I'm giving
12 classes a week and I'm teaching every
day but I'm for my own growth what do I
do and he said to me you have to prepare
one in depth kabur a week in or just gar
orya and one high level makashir a week
this way you're learning on a higher
level the the prepare preparation will
just be the mak of the obligator But
it's really for you to learn through
those two suggest.
>> So on some level like that's been
something I' you know I try to have my
own my own learning
>> also this is just something personal
that
>> I try not to share things that aren't
meaningful to me. Yeah it's great to put
a story in a book but I won't put a
story in the book if it's not a flash of
inspiration for me. I won't share a
video if it's not something that I feel
personally. So I try first to think
about it myself
>> and then share it further. But I'm going
to say it's still the, you know, it's a
little bit of a take. Like it's it's
it's a big challenge to not let other
people's inspiration be yours because
you could wake up in the morning and be
like, "What do you mean? I sent out a
video today and there were 10,000
views." Not that I have a way of gauging
100%. I don't really want to know that.
But you could say, "Wow, who who
inspires 10,000 people a day? I'm good."
But then you think to yourself is in in
after 120 that's gonna that's not going
to fly. It's not going to fly. That's so
what did you do today practically? What
did you learn? What did you dive in?
What was your like? Um what did you do
that was that stretched yourself that
pushed yourself a little bit further?
That's where real growth I think
personal growth is. But that's it's a
strong question and it's a question that
I ask myself all the time and sometimes
I have a good answer and sometimes I'm
like I need a better answer. on on a
practical end as someone like you,
you're giving many many classes,
speeches, you're reaching out to people,
you need you need material. So I've
spoken to many Rabonim and I I always
ask this question because I'm curious
how different people do different
things.
>> Sure.
>> Do you have a catalog at home of topics
of stories of inspiration of do you have
some kind of uh uh rolodex of of of
speeches, drushes, shiurum? How do you
actually go about doing that? If I did,
I'd be in a much better place. The only
thing I have at this point is that when
I give a share, when I give a talk
somewhere, um, which I prepared for in a
substantial way, I I I keep I like write
down the Russian notes Russia
>> and then I take a picture of it. So I
have, uh, an album in my phone called
speeches.
>> Um, I go back to it, but I really try
not to go back to it too much because I
feel if Hashem gives me an opportunity
to talk to a group of to a girls camp
let's just say la mushel which is
something I just did uh about um about
uh you know what
so I could go back and see if I have
speeches on Torah anytime where a lot of
my student has like almost a thousand
speeches on there you know I could go
back and look or I could say you know
what maybe this is what Hashem wanted me
to be thinking about so let me let me
really take a deep dive into it let me
look at some let me look at some you
know some gishmakas that have stories
and then also um let me go to where I go
to to get you know topic focused things
and and try to build it from there but I
don't I wish that when I started I was
like some of my friends have like color
is color
>> I was going to mention
>> he's he's the guy in this you know just
I'm doing great but like go back to what
he was before even better um but he's
he's the king when it comes to this
>> sure
>> I'm not as good
>> and and he's the master of preparation
>> correct correct
>> he prepares like crazy I've spoken him
about it. It's incredible how much
preparation goes into one.
>> He's and and you know
>> and then I'll keep notes on it and and
things of
>> that. That's very I I wish I was Rabbi
Pesakron. Um I don't put in nearly as
much as he does, but I will tell you
that when I do put in more more serious
time, it's always better.
>> Sure.
>> I'll give you an example. So I had this
just now in Tishab to to do the Kinis at
Morishbo. Um and I really spent time
preparing
>> and two things happened. First of all,
you know, Tak, I think that it was it
was better than me just winging all
those camp, you know, kinists that I
knew kind of all those stories and
everything. Number two, I really learned
a lot about the way that I didn't before
and it was a more meaningful tishabove
to me. So,
>> Agra, you put in the investment,
>> the output's going to be
>> more intense. Getting back to the book,
I give us a little feel for what's in
flashes of inspiration, maybe a story or
two, something that comes to mind, wet
our appetite, because I know that people
are going to want to get this book.
They're going to want to read it. Bam.
Your first book did phenomenally well,
so it's not a surprise that this comes
so closely on the heels of the first
one. Give us a taste.
>> So, I want to just first say that I
think it's fair to say the vast majority
of the stories in the book are current.
they happened in the last decade or two
or last year or two. Um I just find that
people are able to relate to those. With
that being said, there are for sure
stories of goodman here which need to
bring us to the level of you know
let's strive for something so much
greater something more impactful.
There's a bunch of stories from October
7th. I I I thought about doing a whole
section October 7th. I decided there
shouldn't be something called October
7th, but there should be inspiration
having to do with October 7th. I'll
share one story. I think it's the first
story in the book. Um, it's still on the
cutting floor. So, it could be they'd be
like, "No, we want it to be the last
story in the book." So, you walk away
with wanting more, but it's right now
the first story in the book and I'll
share the backstory to it.
>> I was at a Shabas table in London at a
wonderful fellow Rabbi Goldwater amazing
Macari special huge table, you know. I
was there. There was a rabbi from
Israel, someone who was rabbi from and a
bunch of students, young professionals
actually from Latin America, from
Israel, from the United States. So there
was three different simultaneous
languages taking place. And at some
point says, I want to share with you
guys a story. I'm like, you got you had
me at hello, you know. And he said in
Hebrew, doesn't speak English. I
translated into English. I couldn't
translate it into Spanish, but I think
they understood English well enough. And
he shared with me the most incredible
story about October 7th. And I said to
him after Shabas, okay, we need this. We
don't say the story unless we find who
the macar is the source. So he connects
me to a good friend of mine in telev.
And um it's one of his tummy and he
shared the story with me exactly the way
they heard it from Na. Na is the the guy
in the story. So Na and his friend were
at Nova on October 7th. Clearly not
shitaru mitzvah. They were grew up in
very secular homes as you'll see soon.
And six o'clock in the morning ganam
breaks out and at some point they're
under attack and everyone's running.
Those p pictures are heartbreaking to
see. Everyone's just running for their
life literally. And they're running the
two of them, him and his friend and
bullets whizzing by their ears. They're
hearing be they're hearing the streaks,
the cries, seeing people drop. And for
some reason, none of those bullets had
them as an address.
Literally three minutes into running
because it was a long run, his friend
says to
pray.
I don't know how to pray.
You pray. Typical Israelis, you
[laughter] know. He says, "I don't
know." Which on some level is
heartbreaking that they don't even know
how to do. On the other point, what's
their gut? That's three minutes into it.
Let's dive in. All of a sudden all
remembers that when he was a kid his
grandfather used to sing to him.
Hashem is my shepherd. I shall not lack.
And he starts saying it. It's coming
back to him.
Even as I walk in the valley of the
shadow of death there, I won't fear.
Let me be pursued by good things, not
what's happening right now. And he
starts saying mad over and over. And his
friend who's Israeli baram catches on
and like they say, we said boopin
over and over. They ran for almost four
hours. Almost four hours as being
pursued by death. And they were. And
wherever they were, it was always a
chance of something else happening. We
know there were checkpoints. And they
end up at a moshab near. They come to
the front of the moshab which is being
manned by all the people. By that point,
everyone knew you got to protect your
family and initially had to identify
themselves to make sure that but they
realized that these were survivors. And
one of the guys says, "We're going to
let you in. Go to the first house. My
wife is there. My son's a police
officer. No fake. I run the Mishar here,
the the watch. Go bang. She's in the
mama. She's in the secure room, but like
she'll let you in and when you share who
you are." And they bang and she opens up
the door eventually and they she looks
at them and they look like they're they
came out of ganim. And she breaks them
into the mama into the secure room and
they both collapsed on the floor. They
couldn't move. They've been running on
adrenaline for four hours. For a half
hour, they couldn't breathe. Basically,
they're just lying there panting. And
eventually, they were able to sit up.
And the whole story comes roaring out.
And at some point, she stops them and
she says, "What any Jewish mother would
say in the situation? You're probably
hungry."
They said, "Oh my gosh, you're right. We
are." You know, they use a lot of energy
up. She says, "Listen, this morning,
early in the morning before all this
craziness happened, I put on the plata,
on the chabas, on the hot plate, a pot
of rice that I made. It's probably still
sitting there. Do you guys want rice?"
That's all I can offer you right now.
Said, "Yeah, rice will be nice." So,
typical Jewish mother opens the mama
door, goes out and comes back a minute
later with a pot of rice, some plates
and forks, and a bottle of wine and a
beer, a ketchup cup. And she says,
"Okay, seed kit, and then you could have
uh the rice." So, now Art turns to his
friend and says, "Take." He says, "Take,
you say?" [clears throat]
She goes, "You guys don't know what
kdosh is." Oh okay. She opens the mad
again, goes back out and comes back with
a little venture for them to be able to
say it. For those people that know how
to spare them say kesh morning. How does
the kid start? Not fish like ashkanaz.
And those words that they had been
saying beloop him for hours. He sees in
print. In his words he spilled all the
wine into the rice. But he hopped at
that moment that not only was it a
miracle that he survived, but Hashem
wanted him to know that it was him that
was behind that story. And it gave him
tremendous tremendous.
>> So that's just a taste of one of the
stories that's in this book, which is
such a beautiful story.
>> Wow.
>> Um it's a story that's makazak a lot
because we all have our own journeys and
sometimes we're pursued by a lot of
different things in our life. We need to
look for the flashes of inspiration or
flashes of greatness which was a
previous book
>> because like it says over here real
people
>> real choices
>> powerful sparks
>> it's like what are you going to go with
what are you going to take with you
>> you know it's interesting the story that
you just said not always are we to such
an open revelation
>> true of the divine hand over here msma
ms we have to I just spoke book on tishb
and and this is one of the things that I
said was this point that we have to be
able to identify those moments and
hopefully this book will help us realize
how these moments are really all around
us these flashes of inspiration are all
around us but it's up to us to tap into
it right there could put it in front of
us but unless we take advantage of those
flashes of inspiration they'll just go
by and then our life will continue
>> unchanged it's up to us to take those
flashes of inspiration internalize them
and help us change. I said this oneshub
when I spoke one of the one of the kinus
has the word in it a lot like a and
point out that koi is a word of so this
is how hashem choreographed it to be and
if you take a look at the ka it brings
different moments of practice so I have
no idea if this is true but I said I
said why is kai the word that's used
forka so maybe just maybe because the
gamatri of kai is 25 it's there before
26 hashem puts that inspiration in your
lap and then he says to get to me which
is 26 shav's name that you need to do.
So here I could give you coin moments
from today until tomorrow. But you got
to take them home and you have to you
have to you know internalize them and
just point out something really
interesting. Not every story in this
book has that amazing ending
>> because people have pointed out to me we
don't all have these amazing hashkah
this positive stories right
>> so there's a story I'm not going to say
the whole story you have to buy the book
to see it but there's a story in here
with this incredible msira nefes about
this family this shami family um in
living in a tiny little bedroom to
another family that was really not nice
to them incredible story nephesh and
there's no amazing ending that they got
a better apartment which is what they
were looking for or that all of a sudden
their child got engaged. No, not that.
None of that. It's just a moment where a
Yadisha family is able to show
incredible greatness. And that also
should be as inspiring as the as the
happy happy ending stories.
>> For sure. These messages are are
universal. I think your book is
something that could be appreciated by
men, women, youngsters. It doesn't
matter who they are. I encourage
everyone to pick up this book. If you
enjoyed the first one, there's no doubt
you'll enjoy this one. And you should
continue to
just you're like overflowing with and
with tremendous talent that gave you
whether in writing or speaking or or
your incredible contributions to the
world of K. You should continue to use
those talents
and uh continue bringing us these
amazing contributions.
>> Thank you. And I'm chasing you here. You
wrote the book first. I wrote a book.
You you hosted inside oursel. I host it
inside school. You keep doing great
things and we our pastors keep crossing
them
>> and again it's an honor to be here back
here smoozing with you. We should do
this more often as as as often as you
put out a book for sure. Maybe even more
often. But continue and thank you again
for this
>> and thank you for coming out. Very much
appreciate it.
>> My pleasure. Thank you.
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