Rabbi Shais Taub on "Marriage and Moshiach"—The Shela on Vayeitzei

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I always say you always heard to say and many people do. And I'll tell you something interesting. That what that's very interesting you say that. Why did you say those two? So I'm gonna tell you something. After the estalus of theat. So during the shiva of the rebay his son-in-law was speaking about it was during the shiv he was speaking about his about his and one of the things that noticed it's there's a han there's like a transcript written of it. It's in it's in from so the Reb mentioned that my father-in-law was not to say or he said both he didn't he wasn't mpid in fact he said I think even the I never heard him say the to appendadesh to it and then the gave an example he said for instance when he used to say about the alterb meaning the balat that he was a shalid the alterb was a shal and he used to d from the of the shalah. Um but he he would say the the would say he wouldn't say whatever that's worth. Okay. So I'll tell you another thing about the and the on the sh of he says that it's compiled hey it's compiled from um scholars and from from uh from books. So there's a tradition that one of the books that the Tanya is based on is the shalom. So here we have uh handed out of uh papers aans guessing aans. Yeah because there's a famous I think it's over there right the Kleinman painting with the orange on the table the orange peel. Yeah probably guess. Okay, it's a inside reference. Anyways, Marance is a orange. Okay, so this is the shal from Paras. It's not the whole parasites. Um, it's just one section which uh I lifted. I think it's simony pay base or pay gimmel to tadic alf. uh I don't remember the exact numbers but it's uh from okay so it starts off says to Hashem before he's leaving home and he's going to he says uh you know Hashem you should give me bread to eat and clothes to wear so I have a question here Just tell Hashem, "Give me bread and clothes." Everyone knows that the food that the bread is to eat and the clothes are to wear. I mean, what else is it for? In fact, you know, it's not just it's based on other ways that scripture speaks. Hashem takes care of the uh the stranger and gives him bread and clothing. It doesn't doesn't uh specify what he does with the bread because we all know what he does with the bread. He eats. It doesn't specify what he does with the garment because we all know what he does with the garment. He wears it. So how come here Yanku is saying specifically um bread to eat and clothes to wear? Okay. So the shalah says, "You should know that contained in this little phrase, this seemingly innocent phrase is hidden hints, great hints, wondrous hints about Msiah, about what it's going to be like when Mashiach comes." So let's find out. In case you don't know what the context is, the shalah is reminding you when he says this uh give me clothes uh bread to eat and clothes to wear. Uh when he says this is this is right before he's going to get married. Remember he's leaving Beva going to yes to escape Asov's wrath but also specifically he's going to because he has Mishbah over there and that's where his mother wants him to find the so the whole thing's a preparation for marriage and in that context of marriage we could understand this whole thing better. So here's what should what you should know. Yanke's marriage is actually an illusion to the future marriage that will occur between the Jewish people and Hashem. Like the prophet says, like he says, just like this is talking about when Msiah comes. Just like a groom rejoices over his bride, so too your God will rejoice over you. Speaking to the Jewish people, right? And I think that's a that's a song. Yeah. One knows that song. Yeah. Okay. Fine. Ali Vim. This is a pedic in uh yeah tells a little story over there. So the tana found encountered he found and uh he said to him said he had an opportunity to speak to Leo. So he asked him some questions. He said, "It says I'm going to make for him. I'm going to make for Adam and Aar helped me meet opposite him." So, uh, he asked him an innocent question. Good thing his wife wasn't there to hear this question. He asked him, uh, how is a woman a help to a man? It's like says in Pik, how Hashem made the woman to be a help to the man. How how is she a help to the man? I said it was a good thing his wife wasn't around when he asked that question. Okay, so he told him Ilio answers and says listen you want to know how a woman helps a man I'm going to tell you a person a man brings home is wheat brings home wheat but can you chew wheat? Sometimes they say can you chew it? Can it can other times does it does it grind itself? Either way is grinding. So it could be the chewing grinding or it could be grinding like you have to grind it like miller. Either way the point is that is raw materials. Nobody can eat it. It requires work. And then he asked him another question which is the same basic formula here. Pishtan. A man brings home pishon. Pishtan lemmia. Can he wear flax? You make flax into linen. Hey, if a man brings home wheat, can you chew wheat, men? Can you chew wheat? You can chew it. You're not going to get Okay. If if he brings home flax, can you wear flax? You guys even know what flax looks like? It's a plant. Flax is a plant. Can't really wear it. No, but you could turn it into uh linen, right? Flax is linen. And that linen is good stuff. Lin. Yeah. Linen. Yeah. You can eat it. Seeds. You eat the flax seeds. Don't get us confused because you're supposed to eat the wheat and wear the Now you're going to start a whole new thing about don't don't go there. Okay. I got to help with one train of thought here. Anyways, so so Ilio is explaining asked a dangerous question. He asked he asked Ilio. Hashem told Adam that Oh, you were listening. I'm watching. Oh, you're watching. Okay, fine. So he told him what he asked him what's what good is a woman? So he says, well listen, a man brings home the raw materials, but they're not ready to go. So the woman has to uh you know put on the finishing touches and make it uh make it usable. So he says to him, "Does she not illuminate his eyes and stand him on his feet?" Okay, that's the end of the gum in uh yame. Okay, so here's an interesting point. The shalom makes zahu this what we just said that there's this um process required. By the way, this just a total mime musker. Probably not appropriate to talk about it here, but I'm just thinking it's interesting because we learned I think the first year here we learned kaducious ley. We learn learn and uh what last time last class we learned and uh so there's a story that um was a was a was a was a one time he got into an argument with some and they were trying to they were like basically trying to determine what was more authentically often, [Music] they grow the flax in the country, but then they ship the flax to the city where they have the manufacturing and they turn it into um clothes. You can't wear the flax. So he was saying it's like the kagas is more like the the flax the plants but the processing where you actually like turn it into something uh usable that that's kabad. So like the the rural and the urban so to speak uh metaphorically uh the uh the raw materials and the and the finished product. At any rate, like I said, it probably has nothing to do with here and probably shouldn't have said it. Cut it out. Okay. Uh, at any rate, this concept that these raw materials need um they need production in order to be usable. That's only now. What do you mean now? Well, since uh the past like 5,780 what are we on two years? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that when Msiah comes, everything's going to be ready made. Everything's going to be ready to go instant. We're getting closer to it. Everything's almost instant at this point. You know, just push a button, everything's ready to go. 3D printers, everything. Okay. Like the sages say, Ulay meas that in the future um we tell this to kids, right? What do we say? What in that song? Mashiach man song, right? On the trees we'll be growing candy. You know that song? Yeah. You know, oh, can you sing the song? On the trees we'll be growing candy, right? So, anyways, so the trees are going to grow donuts. How how is like donuts, you know, sweet rolls? Yeah. Okay. At least you know cookie. How do you translate it? What does this mean? It means that that the finished clothes are going to grow and the finished food products are going to grow. You're not you're not going to need any processing because they'll be immediately wearable. Also, food isn't going to require processing anymore. Oh, they have like that that lab meat. Maybe that's also so they can have lab bread. They have lab broccoli. Lab meat still raw. Still raw. You have Oh, so the the next thing is they have to make the the lab meat where you don't have to cook it. Sizzling. Sizzling. Yeah. It emerges from the petri dish. Sizzling. Yeah. with grill marks on it. How do you like that? I'm thinking ahead. Okay. Take it'll be immediately edible. So, actually that's what Yankee is hinting. Remember the Shal says there are here the gel that Yankavino is actually praying for Msiah here. He's saying, "Hey, Hashem, give me the ready to go, readymade food and readym made clothes where you don't have to do any processing." In other words, let's get to Msiah says, "I already told you the marriage of Yanke with his wives to bring forth the 12 tribes." that really metaphorically is all about the marriage between Hashem and the Jewish people. So one is really um a metaphor for the other and when will the marriage of Hashem and the Jewish people take place like we mentioned like Yesh says it metaphorically calls it a marriage between and so this whole thing is really about Msiah. Okay. Now another matter can be resolved over here and that is that Yankerino seemingly had a very rough way of speaking. What do they call it? Locker room talk. Remember that. When was the last election? 2014 right 16. I don't know. I don't what what was the last 2016 locker room talk. So when was locker room talk shamed over 2016, right? Billy Bush. Exa Exactly. locker room talk. Okay, let's leave it at that. Anyways, it's just locker room talk. Okay, so it seems like Yankeeino is engaging in locker room talk. Okay, but he says it seems like it's what did he say? He said he says, he's like, "Hey, when are you going to hook me up with your daughter?" So, yeah. I mean it I feel even embarrassed to translate it even though it's it's a it's a but yeah I mean it sounds really rough like the raba like the med says and Rashi brings us this also isn't it true even the kaum don't speak that way and you think yank was the only one speaking you think only men speak this way oh no she also spoke that way she used to or at least one instance she demanded intimacy very explicitly to come unto me. So what's up with that? Why are the speaking in a way that's you know not able seems not able? So he explains like this. Explains at length the idea of he uses terms Yadia and Yadia is like Adam knew Eve doesn't mean he like could pick her out out of a lineup like oh yeah I know who that lady is. It wouldn't be a lineup anyway because there were no other women. But it means that he had intimate knowledge of her right and also his that's also the idea of intimacy [Music] before the sin which sin the original sin the sin of the tree of knowledge of good and evil before they were tainted with the uh what do you want to call it the uh impurity ity of the the act of marital intimacy was considered no different than any other mitzvah act. That's true. Um well, you know, did you ever put filling on a guy in a street corner? You're a lab. Of course you put filling on a guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, What? It's different different than marital intimacy, right? Okay. So he says like this for instance like your hand shakes a love or well it makes a suka or shakes a love and also many different mitzvah. Okay. But or you use your feet to run to do a mitzvah. What he's saying is the the act of marital intimacy as a mitzvah would be no different for a person before the sin of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It would be no different for a person than using your hands to shake lulof or using your feet to walk to do a mitzvah. says by mitzvah because this reproductive organ is just a body part that you used to do a mitzvah. So why would you feel any differently about one body part that does a mitzvah than another body part that does a mitzvah? So before the the sin of the tree of knowledge of good and evil there was no self-consciousness, no self-awareness. So there was no uh dirty mind. You know my father's logazunai a psychologist. He told me a joke that um there's this little boy who's very precocious. He was saying inappropriate things. So they sent him to school psychologist, see if he's okay. So they gave him a a roarshock test. You know the roar shock test, ink blotss. Yeah. So they don't look like anything. They're just abstract shapes. But you ask the guy, "What does it look like?" And then you get like a peak into his subconscious. So they asked this little precocious little boy who was saying inappropriate things. the the school psychologist showed him the first ink blot and he says, "Little boy, what does this look like?" He's like, "Oo, you know what that looks like?" Yeah. He describes, you know, pretty graphic uh image. He says, "Okay." Next card, he says, "What does this look like?" Said, "Oh, that's even, you know, it's even more. That's the real." He showed him another one. What does this look? Oh, that's even more. He says, "Little boy, you seem very preoccupied with uh you know uh things of a very adult nature." He's like, "Me? You're the one who brought in all the dirty pictures." So, you know, it's all subjective. What's a dirty picture? You know, it's like before the the sin of the tree of knowledge of good and evil Adam regarded his reproductive organs no differently than you think of the hand that you use to to put on filling. There's no no shame. There's nothing nothing different about it than any other body part that you use to do a mitzvah. There was no there was no shame to it. And it wasn't called. It wasn't called like private parts. Just another holy part of your body that you use to do holy things. Nothing more to it. What? Say that eight times fast. Say that eight in English or in the but after they were seduced by the snake by the ancient snake, the primordial serpent. How you like that? The primordials after they were seduced by the primordial serpent o they knew they were naked and that it was shameful. What does it mean they knew they were naked? They knew factually they were naked before. They weren't stupid. If you ask them, "Were you naked?" Of course I'm naked. Just didn't mean now it's an issue. Yeah, exactly. They always knew they were naked. Just wasn't an issue. Very good. However, in the future, get ready for this. In the future, when Mashiach comes, when Hashem will remove the from us, we will be again like Adam before the sin. We'll be cleansed from all that self-consciousness. Then marital intimacy will be like any mitzvah. Actually, if anything, it'll be even more holy. So there'll be no shame at all attached to it because you have to understand. Okay. So the idea of shame being connected specifically to uh to this part of life. Um it has to do with the the whole concept of kipas noa. Kipas noa is the intermediate kip. Kipa means the shell you know some where the the nitaki where the godly spark is concealed. So there's kipa that's uh thick opaque kippa meaning where the the godliness is irretrievable you know like a piece of pork. So yeah there must be godly energy in it or it wouldn't exist but it's not accessible to me. So only the only relationship I can have with it is alysa say I just have to I'll pass right okay but then there are things that are neutral like amarans like an orange right which is you make it's kosher it's not orlo right and you uh and then you can elevate the spark so it's not holy but it can become holy so what is it really is it's got good and bad good or bad it's all potential it's all in flux depending how you use it. So you eat the orange depending on how you use the energy, how you burn the calories will determine whether that the energy from that orange has an aliyah or the opposite, aid. And so to most things in this world, they can be used either way. There's a famous story about a little girl who was with her whole family. She was it was the 80s. She was worried about the nuclear arms race with the Soviets. And the Reb asked her, "Is there a knife in the drawer in the kitchen at home?" She said, "Yeah." whatever said, "Is the knife good or bad?" She said, "Depends how you use it." He said, "That's the same thing. You know, the the nuclear arms, they're just tools. You know, if they're used, god forbid, to destroy, then then it's not good, right? If it's used to maintain peace under, you know, circumstances where that's necessary, then then it's good." So, most things have good and bad. Good or bad. It's the potential could go either way. Now, that's with most things in the world. How much more so you talk about the human desire or attraction to this particular biological function if it's done shayim it's it's the holiest thing but if it's done selfishly then it's can draw somebody into the the lowest of the low. So it's almost like it's like most of this world but like only more so. It's like an exaggeration of of what life in in the world is like. This world is, you know, everything has potential to go either way and you got to use it responsibly. And uh you know, so this this this drive, this desire is a a prime or perhaps the prime example of that. All right. So where does the shame come from? The shame comes from the fact that you know now that you could misuse this thing. You could misappropriate it. See like nobody has shame when they like think about putting on fillin because they didn't misappropriate it. I guess if you're really perverted and devious you could think of a way to misappropriate that and then you would have shame about it. But with this this is something that everybody I mean just it's part of the human condition that a person is not saved from every day a so at least the potential to think of how to uh misuse this thing and then once you realize oh I thought of a life hack gave me this thing in order to do a very holy mitzvah but I thought of a way I could misappropriate it and use it for my own amusement so then that's where the shame comes from. The shame comes from the fact that you realize that you thought of the life hack. I'm calling it, you know, quote unquote life hack. The um the creative uh what do you call it? Uh the uh what do they say in the Marines? The Marines improvise, right? So, it's like Hashem gave you this very specific uh clear-cut mission and then you realize, oh, hold on a second. If you're creative, you could think of pictures, too. Yeah. Yeah. You're the one who brought in all the dirty pictures. Exactly. Yeah. So, you Yeah. Anyways, the lady said that by the said, "Hashem, what did you do? You took all the temptations and you put them in front of our face and you know the the spiritual wisdom you have to go read about in in old dusty books. You should have done the opposite. You should have put spirituality in the street. And then if you wanted to find out about a tya, you should have to have, you know, have to go study about it. At any rate, so the point is what we have to do to in high school, right? You have to Yeah, exactly. So the point is that once there was once means the knowledge of the potential for things to be used for good or bad. That's what it really means. So once was capable of figuring out how to use something or misuse it. Innocence was lost. He lost his innocence. Right. The innocence is, is there any other use for it? Who ever thought of such a thing? Who would even how would it even occur to you that there was any other use for this? Right? That's the innocence. And then the innocence is lost. Oh, I thought of a cool thing you could do. It's a It's not It's not what the uh the the instructions say, but it's not what the manual says. But hey, you know, I know a guy who told me, right? Anyways, and that's where the shame comes in. But in in the future when that Yates will be taken away and nobody would wouldn't occur to us anymore to use anything selfish selfishly, let alone you know reproductive uh potential which is a godly coyak that was given to the human being. So at that point when when it would no longer occur to us to use it selfishly, so there would be no more shame. It would be ashamed of what? Ashamed of what? Isn't that the root of the went from being other oriented to selfish oriented that right so this that's precisely so that's right the whole thing is self-consciousness says that the the das is the sense of self self-awareness crippling self-consciousness but once you lose that then then there's no shame anymore okay now The a were holy like holiness is going to be when Msiah comes al that's why Yankee spoken a way that we would consider locker room talk but no he that wasn't locker room talk that's the way you talk when Msiah comes because there's no nothing to be ashamed of anymore and that's also the way that Leia spoke she was not speaking grub She was speaking also when Yanke met and he kissed her. It was totally innocent, totally pure. This is also what's hinted to in the words of he says, "Isn't it true that even the most lightaded people don't speak this way?" But rather rashi says what was what was Yankee saying saying he wasn't saying in a in a perverse way in a in a crass way he was saying or it was as if he was saying when am I going to get a chance to give birth to the 12 tribes so what's the 12 tribes 12 tribes is a reference it's a hint here actually means when am I going to get a chance to cleave to the name of God with the 12 permutations of the four-letter name. You know, there are four different combinations of yud. That's actually uh how the alterban knew the time when he was in jail because they he didn't have a window. He didn't have a clock. But every single day, every single hour of of the day, so the 12 daylight hours are the 12 tufim of Havaya. And the 12 night hours are the 12im of Shem Adnai. And he knew he knew which it was and then he knew what time it was. Okay, let's finish up here. We won't finish the whole the whole text, but uh because it's getting late. So too before a person before the sin uh and lavush food and clothing were like it's going to be when she comes it's all like readymade. So that's how it was in Ghana. The earth would produce readymade manufactured finished products like it's going to do when mashia comes. And how do we know this? Only because of the sin. Remember, it was a punishment for the sin that Hashem said, "You're going to only eat by the sweat of your hands." Meaning, not of your hands, the sweat of your brow. You're going to have to go work in order to eat. But uh am before the sin, you didn't have to work in order to eat. In fact, you didn't have to work to prepare the food. The food was prepared. It was all done. and also um clothing everything was done. Okay. So this is why when we make a on bread make a blessing on bread we make is there's a about what what's the is it so the question is about past tense and and and and present tense. So it's interesting everyone agrees. What does he say here that with not with the buty nobody disagrees? There's a disagreement grammatically. What's the difference between mighty and hamy? And even though the the final ruling is that the we make is yeah says a whole different reason says that you know I am going to finish it's just three more lines that there says we say because otherwise you'll slur the me of mitzy with the me of we you know, like he'll slur it. But then the says, "Well, really that's the concern. What about would have the same problem." So whatever the shalom says, that's not what the po the point of saying is not because of of slurring words. There's a real important reason why we say why because it's because can function both as past tense and future tense. So every time we make a we are referencing we're referencing the past meaning the readym made bread that was produced for Adam and the readym made bread that is going to be in the times of audits like we're saying before about uh what tents Uh the word is so says past tense they say it's future is future like it says in there will be like an abundance of of bread in the land. At any rate, the point is that we say so that every time we make we're actually referencing the past, meaning the before the original original way that things were set up that uh there was no toil or work required to have things ready to go, ready to consume and we're referencing the future how it's going to be when Msiah comes also there will not have to be any toil and that's it. So that's why said to Hashem, give me, of course. What else do you do with then eat it? What else do you do with clothing than wear it? No, no, no. That's not what it means. It doesn't mean bread in order to eat it and clothing in order to wear it. I know what you're going to do with it. What he what Yankavina was saying is Hashem, bring Mashiach. So I have bread that's ready to eat. Requires no assembly. No assembly required. and uh clothes that are ready to wear, growing off the trees, ready to go. Hm. The point of question about only now because because you need her to the wife turns the raw materials into the finished product. Msiah comes everything will already be finished product. Well, she'll be out of a job. So will you be out of a job because will also be bal you you you'll be out of a job she'll be out of a job and then you know what the occupation of the whole world will be no to know Hashem well you know you I guess you got to have a hobby too but no to know Hashem to know Hashem that's the whole purpose of the material prosperity that will be when Msiah comes is in order that we are free to know Hashem so I other what what's point. Why should we have ready-made clothes or ready-made food? Because it's cool. No, because then you don't have to be involved in mundane things and we just uh just learn to infinitely and get infinitely closer to our shop. Okay, fine. I think do we have a minion here from Idv?