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Rabbi Rotberg Pesach 2023 The Lakewood Scoop
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So today we're going to be discussing
we're going to be discussing some of the
most
probably traveling questions that keep
coming up from different people number
one is we're going to be talking about
what products we know that the spectrum
of people that are marketed on different
products that have to be customer paid
so if people ask questions as far as
medicines here is Pleasant vitamins if
you want to know about the toothpaste
shoe polish papers and I mean everything
you about Christianity is almost a
cultural piece of cash on everything but
there's no half was and a problem
do I have to spend extra money to get
something with a heck ship
and also I want to talk about also the
issue of smoking on YouTube now you're
smoking on pesach whether if it's motor
to smoke whether it is a problem of
comets as well as e-cigarettes and Vapes
want to try to cover some of these
topics maybe it's a little bit too uh
maybe it's too much to get in one chip
but we're gonna try try our best I want
to first talk about the basics that we
should at least understand what's going
on
so we know that besides the answer of
evening comets there's an instant to own
and possess comets
and it says
you're not allowed to own comets you're
not allowed to some people go survive
Jarvis is not an instrument if he was
going to look at comments if they walk
by uh they won't even go buy a place for
this they're selling comets and even
though it's
of comets is also awesome and I'll tell
you it has to be destroyed so a lot of
times so people say but it's only so
little comments it doesn't matter even
Hotsy sheer there's there's innocent now
the truth is that we spoke about people
say that I don't need to do much because
I get rid of all my comments we spoke
about that in many many household
products there's uh there's comets in
them now the gemara learns out another
Zion the gamara learns out like circle
called
that we learn out from there that
something which is not edible does not
have a lot of comets so when we start
talking about products you know most
people have never never drank a little
shoe polish and no most people never
wanted to chew on some uh on on
amoxicillin because they were just
hungry but hurry these things are
completely they're not they're not
they're not really a dog wouldn't eat it
and therefore they shouldn't be it
shouldn't be an issue now I'm paying tax
is actually more of a homeless being
nism that
um
now these are these are these um now one
of one of the issues we have over here
is what comes up with all these issues
is actually what is a lot of actually
there's a Russian in the beginning of
the second paragraph of of uh
that the rush over there says that if
let's say
um that let's say something is
but I go and eat it so then I'm showing
that is I think for me I'm eating it
that's Allah actually so it means that
if I have something if I had if I had a
medication so let's say I had a
amoxicillin and I wouldn't have that
it's not really looking for a dog you
won't eat it the problem is the moment
you ingest it you're showing there's a
lot of actually that means you defy the
logic and you are eating it so therefore
it becomes an issue of actually so think
about this question we're going to talk
about smoking a similar question even if
you want to say this is the very fact
that you are ingesting it so that that
in itself is a shows that maybe there's
a lot of of actually so we're going to
talk about that in a moment I just want
to point out one thing this is very very
important now come on on the spot every
year hatsala gets calls from people and
their issue is that they didn't know
that the medicine was cautioned on
pesach and therefore they didn't what
they were going to take it they're
waiting to get through the rough they
went to the doctor so let's just make
one thing very very clear anybody that
is potentially
is allowed to take any medicine that
they could possibly take there's no
medicine
should bother getting on a phone about
you're allowed to take it let's take
that a step further
that is going to be bedridden as a
result of not taking his medication
someone was gonna have for example as a
migraine has to get migraine headaches
and in order to to deal with it he takes
medication every day to stop it and he's
going to swallow a pill so uh you know
basically spoiler alert you could take
that medication you're swallowing your
pill so let's just let's just put that
on the side I'm not even going to get
into that because it doesn't make sense
you don't have to sit there looking to
see whether someone who has an infection
to look up to see if the medicine is in
is in one of the one of the various
books that talks about that so I'm not
even going to go there I want to go
about a different child so so what we
this do when it comes to vitamins and
medications and things like that these
are Allah
that means let's say I'm eating
something
right no one has a minute for example
nobody maybe before but for example a
suppository is not very
is something which is ingested so now
what does it mean that something's
ingested doesn't mean I have to chew it
doesn't mean if I swallow a pill what is
called this is that
um
that he was having he was having enough
from something from Arla and the gamara
comes out over there that um anything
which is which anything which is
it's not there's no Issa so again so I'm
just saying I really think that people
need to understand this it's not a it's
not a cooler which somebody came up with
it's a gemara it's
quese
says
when it comes to Holy surim you're
allowed if if it's coming to cure a
person if there's medicine you let it
take it even if it's in there there's no
if you're doing it like regular you're
eating your food which is awesome you
can't do it
is
so this is a very very important thing
now they know you give you Huda writes
that swallowing something you know used
in Madura karma in your idea
and he says that um there's an argument
that's very very important that he that
he says
that if you swallow a pill it's still
considered if you think about it every
time we eat food we we swallow the food
so the fact that I didn't chew it
doesn't mean that it's not that it's
that if I swallow her pills according to
the United
and he's taking medication for allergies
and the medication has has and the
medication has comets in it so if you
swallow that pill is awesome because
swallowing a pill is
and therefore it's awesome to take it on
on pesach or if it's straight would have
that issue is
he says his follows he says when this
person swallows pills with
he says
that if you swallow it is
if a person inhales a slice of pizza so
you're a bit off a piece of pizza
instead of being a human and chewing the
pizza you swallowed it that the review
the thing is that's called awesome it
says Rock Oz aminon
review
but if you're taking an Augmentin pill
which is
augmented nobody was really really
hungry and said I want to just say I
want to eat I want to eat some good
antibiotics so it's never meant to eat
the whole dark is only meant to swallow
it
is
allowed to have it and that is that is
not that's not an issue so this is a
very very important when it comes to
medication so number one you have
says
hold on you know you that means if I do
that to food but now we have another
show
so if you have another shot we spoke
about is actually so let's say it is
what about actually the concept that
even though this commenting is the fact
that you're eating it so therefore
therefore it shows that to me it is so
this is a very famous anybody you need
to know this has an ish there's Carson
is from the usages
medications that have flour in it now
there are medications understand a few
things here when when when medicines
have have comics in it there's two
places that can have comments it could
either have in the actual pill the
compounds of the pill that keeps it
together and or could have in the
medicinal part generally speaking when a
medicine has has um when a medicine has
comets in it for the most part it's
going to be in the compound that's
keeping the pills together it's usually
not that green is is is curing the
infection the grain is made is usually
used in the pill to keep to keep the
pill form
so he says he says if it's
that is
it's not it's this says that would not
be considered that's not a problem it's
not considered
he says
that means if let's say everybody says
you can't eat this food why can't you
eat this food imagine one thing somebody
says you can't eat this hookah that's
raw fish and all these raw fish and you
go you eat raw fish so you arrive if
you're not negative that you're showing
that Oxford that even though
but it's somebody that needs a pill am I
showing that that that's right because
in fact tell me now I'm showing one
thing I need a pill and I want to get
better so I'm swallowing it and also
that actually on the compound it's
actually on the medicinal part she says
did that tell us the medicine apartment
so this is a very important thing remote
she writes also remote
someone was taking medicine even if
there's no psychologist life there's no
such thing because
they did have asked you that shows that
I'm eating and the fact that I eat in a
show that it is you don't say that by
medicine you say that by food so
somebody would eat a piece of fish a
piece of meat a pizza something potato
which is most people all the internet
videos
but on medicine you wouldn't you
wouldn't say that now
is
he brings the shock and science him and
I and hate who holds it even by refuel
there is actually so that's the reason
why there are people that are are um
but again I want to get into this
there's definitely a plenty of starting
to be making it but he's looking at
brings a lot of this conversation so
it's it's a very very important
conversation now which also leads to
which I'm not going to get into today
because I really want to get into the
other shows they wanted to talk about
it's as far as um you know cigarettes
and things like that
but I think what's a very another very
important in China
um well I think what what's very not
besides what we just discussed about
actually and medicines and things like
that I think it's also important to to
know that a lot of times with kids kids
sometimes have to have comments there's
certain kids that have formula which are
kidneys but these also some sometimes
are important than children that needle
or even adults that need to be on
certain formulas which are hamad's
grammar and so hopefully you had to deal
with it
um obviously the other option is never
gonna be that the child shouldn't eat
but um but um you know when you're very
very picky kids and things like that is
uh live in Alaska which We're Not Gonna
which which I'm not gonna get to now I
wanted so what I do want to talk about
is when it comes to the shylist that
we're talking about is with regards to
um with regards to cigarettes so
cigarettes it's very interesting there's
been a shine about cigarettes MacLeod
about first of all when I when someone
smokes something is that called eating
it or not so certainly one thing is for
sure his lungs know about it it and
obviously it's certainly in your body
it's certainly affecting a person but is
that any different than uh than going
for a suntan which is which is again
what makes this is what makes something
ingesting something is and whatnot so
always the question is does anybody here
make a bracha on smoking right you're
having cigarettes you want to save the
mice if you think about it when somebody
inhales a cigarette some some of it is
definitely being ingested it's going
into the intestinal tracts as well so so
is that is that a caliber Cloud do we
have to know whether your cigarettes are
Kosher or not is that even a Shiloh or
not it's so so actually there's a Morgan
of ramen seven ratio in safe tests with
a we're um the the the soya about this
also is is
steam or smoke from something whether
that's cold is that called the thing
itself if I have I'm not from
is that called is that called is that
cool that I ingested something or not so
that's a that's a separate Shiloh now
what's important about this child is
that so we know that the Morgan Abram
says that um
people that put grass which they call
Tobacco lasted I should very soon
they inhale they suck on this uh straw
which inhales the smoke
and then they exhale It Dummy the time
of pilot is that like someone who tastes
something and spits it out chainsaws
or maybe it's like uh like a like it's
like uh
certainly cigarettes that the body has I
know from it so maybe you should say
he says because many he says men many
people taka they have enough they even
feel satisfied so maybe you should have
to make a bracha on it now Mugabe the
broccoli over here says that you don't
have to make a brother he argues to make
a brachan cigarettes he says because
even though you feel satisfied he says
that's because you're addicted so
because you're addicted and you have a
nicotine craving so it's satisfying that
need for nicotine but it's not really
it's not really doing anything for you
as far as really satiating you in any
way someone who's not someone who's not
addicted is not those gonna it's no
one's gonna eat a cigarette by inhaling
it and saying I feel so full so it's
it's a it's not really addressing
anything so so that that's gotta be
brought up so what about Agape hummus it
seems like a lot of the tobacco was made
with um they used to soak the tobacco
and beer and because they soaked the
tobacco and beer so they're shy about
whether or not it's coming tonight and
that seems to be the tremendous Shiloh
but the truth is ready before that
Zion and Civ game over there talks about
the Thomas schmeck tabach that um that
there was known to have yamasu in it and
wanted to know whether he had to use the
schmeck topic that had the ins offended
and obviously he came out over there I
believe he comes out he says that you're
not allowed to use that because it has
has gainesa now the market I've run
therefore when it comes to pesach the
Morgan of rum writes in Simmons Zion if
I believe it's yodh talks about this
hard story which I don't want to get
into what that is exactly the different
peppers and these come from different
places and he says
to to soak the tobacco in beer and
darkness you have to lock it in the room
but but certainly you will not be
allowed to use tobacco on pesach which
has which was soaked in beer so this is
this is this is obviously this is uh
this is a shita which is um seems
according to this so it would be it
wouldn't be it would be a um basically
based on this
seems to save these in it then you don't
have to and you wouldn't be able to use
it on pesos
now do cigarettes have hummus in it or
not so Grande I've just I I think I saw
this here that um there's actually one
of the Israeli ashames that come out now
with no cigarettes tonight so actually I
have comments in it but we'll get to the
e-cigarettes and Vapes it's actually a
lot more complicated because over there
it's very different but this is
the management base he talks about this
the the schmeck tabach and he talks
about over here that um even though it's
colored he says the tobacco's in or in
the human skeleton but the very fact
that it's meant for you to inhale it so
you're showing that it's meant for that
he said
ingest it and inhale it
is
he says it's meant for you to smoke and
you want to smoke it so it's almost like
an Oxford
holds that it would be that there would
be an issue so all this is not really
that much of an issue until we were as
long as we're talking about conventional
smoking as you know there's a little
little at the end of this if in in tough
membees I believe it is the the I'm
sorry Zion
at the end of the conversation
is
either smoking on pizza because there's
beer in it that's what you do is that we
know today there's no shash so you're
allowed to so you're allowed to smoke
cigarettes so here's where it comes into
an issue so here's where the issue comes
up in in real form so we know that okay
so let's say cigarette cigarettes could
be if it's smoked into it's if it's
soaked in in comets it's a problem
in his days there's no they're not then
after there's not there's no Hamas in it
my father actually told me that he used
to bring cigarettes to the stapler for
pesach the disciples always worried
about comments but he's also the Schmidt
they wouldn't smoke cigarettes so um he
won't only smoke but he only have a
special types that didn't have shot I
think I think peso he didn't smoke at
all and he didn't Vape so um his mom is
for his son who smoked a few packs a day
the mysterious enough is unbelievable it
means but
um so the question therefore is so so
the question is by so let's say by
cigarettes there's no Shiloh now when it
comes to other things it's more of a
child so we spoke about in the beginning
of this year we spoke about that a lot
of things isn't enough to worry about
comments
we spoke about that it's it's not very
lucky this Caleb we spoke about that
it's not actually
so therefore Marshall's shoe polish we
have nothing to worry about no one ever
ate shoe polish toothpaste very
quesadilla you don't have to be you
don't have to worry about it
stroll in America it's something that
I'm not put on Too Faced into as we in
different cultural bases you have
nothing to worry about it's not really
the killers Caleb a dog never ate it
maybe although I heard one of the Tami
that went from and put the show put some
toothpaste down and brought a dog and
the dog eats a toothpaste so so
that's the crazy dogs what do you want
from me but um but uh but but the
mindset we know that if anything which
is
the issue we have is Israel finds him in
archives
gimmel and Simon Simon base where
emotion says that anything which could
be come back to the comet to the
original form you don't say anything so
for example a perfume which is then you
then you then you waited or something
then you rated alcohol which just
basically means it's regular alcohol
which is hummus but what they do is they
put in some bad smelling
um beard smelling spices into the
alcohol so they don't have to pay taxes
on it so but now it's not right about
Halo now you drink perfume it's very
very much says if you could bring it
back to the original form then it still
has the dinner
now
so therefore so we basically said like
this so the toothpaste the true polish
the glue the the the the rack the rat
poison all that Salvage has comments in
it no problem
but the problem is that for example
cologne and and deodorant and all these
types of things which is liquid and
that's not something which could come
back to that form so immersion brings
down partials
you can't do it but he says that only
the alcoholism
alcohol if it's if it's in a liquid form
it's not possible
those are fixing and they could drink it
okay so now let's go to the E-Cigarettes
so the E-Cigarettes we have the
questions like this
three cigarette we have the Vapes so
these are liquid forms now is that is
that like smell of the smoke it's it's
intended to ingest it now somebody also
do when we when someone smokes is it
just going into his lungs or is it going
into other parts does he swallow any of
it also the flavor is put there on
purpose
you want to have enough from that flavor
there's an oxide on it as well I I
certainly want it certainly and so now
you could say that is
a basement it's a huge mahalakis when I
grab over there we don't pass them like
Rob that's a whole circuit with an
asthma but let's say if you hold this if
you hold red for sure you have initials
now first we're having Hannah from
comets now I don't know exactly what the
comet's content is but according to her
emotion it could be that everything we
just said is done again because it could
be it's bad because you said if you can
go back to that form so and I don't know
what form that is so over here is a much
different question here you don't have
the Orca that says there's no harm it's
there is
even more over here it's not like
tobacco that was soaked in beer this is
actual the actual flavor which is
intended for you to have I know his
comments
it's it's certainly a question which
means to wonder even more even regular
vaping without a Hatcher you also have
to know is that is that is that
something which just because you see
every single person doing here let's
start thinking like is that is that
really is that really okay enough now
you have all these types of sorted on
page now because
that's even people most people that
smoke
um that Vape throughout the year will
not Vape on PESA hopefully because I'm
basically have much more issues yeah I
mean they have enough from comments
and yeah there's a lot more issues so
therefore therefore I think it's it's
kadai that um not even I'm not even I
wasn't even paid to do an advertisement
for this but drop smoke I think has
cultural pace of the drops of his wives
them giving him the Free Press Summit
but um but if it's if it's if it's kadai
if whoever does
um think it's certainly it's one of
these shylists which there is no it's no
easy way that somebody can say it's not
like cigarettes because if I smoke so
there's cigarettes is a whole different
Channel like we spoke about and again as
far as products
medicine anyone that's taking
medications
if you're taking a pill it's not a child
so we saw that even as you're swallowing
a pill according to many many posts game
it's not even a child either because
it's actually on swallowing the pill you
don't have it by medicine and even if
you hope that says in in words actually
that says that actually is not on the
food content on the on the it's on the
medicinal part is the only thing that I
really want so if the compound has
comets in it it wouldn't matter products
in our home anything which becomes
direct contact with the food obviously
it could I have to know much of this
starch and a lot of the papers in the in
the plates things like that they're
telling you have to absolutely have to
be Mark Miron but other products like um
you know people are some people are not
put on on soap as well because it says
um that's that's uh most of the Soaps I
think are okay but we have a real issue
is the perfumes the colognes
um um and and again the ones that are
made in America most of them are not an
issue
for perfumes and colognes but um but
many of them are problematic at least
you could like to look at that as well
as these cigarettes we should always