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Rabbi Paysach Krohn speaking at the Holocoust Memorial Event (Yom HaKaddish Haklali) in Queens
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Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn is a fifth generation mohel, who is also known throughout the Jewish world for his books and lectures. He has written a series of books of Jewish short stories, known as the Maggid Series, as well as other titles. He has lectured in cities around the world and is a frequent lecturer at CHAZAQ Programs. For upcoming CHAZAQ events and programs email [email protected] or visit https://www.chazaq.org/ ---------------------- Amazing Interview by R' Yaniv Meirov with R' Paysach Krohn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6AxmVEpVkM
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this past week Mrs Russel came to my
home and she gave me the video that we
just
saw I'm so grateful that I watched it
before I came because I
cried so much after I watched it the
first time that if this would have been
the first time of my watching this I
could not have said a
word to me this
proves that 6 Mill is a lie it's not 6
million it's 60 million cuz every one of
them could have been a father a mother a
grandfather a grandmother a
great-grandfather a great
grandmother and you know when I saw the
film the first thing that I thought of
was this really puts our lives in
perspective how in the world can we
worry about Petty things that go on when
you see a video like this
so you didn't get the
furniture so the delivery didn't come on
time and so your child got a 95 instead
of 100 or a 75 but you have a child and
one day you're going to be a Bubby and a
zadii and when we see this
film this is really a
time that we have to be grateful that we
live in a great country and that we can
have an event like this and that we can
learn and we can study and we can
grow and that's the purpose of getting
together tonight it's not only to talk
about our past but to talk about our
future you know there's a very
interesting
kazal tells us that every generation has
to have
stars why is somebody called a star a
star is somebody that you look up to
just like you look up to stars at night
and the question is who are the real
stars of a
generation tells
us those that make the many righteous
the like Rabbi sheld senior Rabbi sheld
Jr if you can call Rabbi sheld
Jr Rabbi shinefeld all the other
wonderful Rabon that we have here in
Queens from Rabbi Steinberg and Rabbi
Olam one after the other was so
fortunate to live among these
people who are the real heroes those
that teach children Tyra and when I
learned this gor I was wondering what
makes them a star and you know what
makes them a Star based on what the Mas
tells us something
fascinating tonight you go out at night
and you see the stars so you know that
they're there on a clear night you can
see hundreds of thousands of stars
but in the daytime you can't see the
stars but if you have a brain in your
head you know the stars are there and
that's what a great rebi is that's what
a great parent is the Great rebi and the
great parent is there even if you can't
see them long after you've gone out of
the classroom long after you've left the
dalaras of the rebi or the Moa or the
man or Manas when you have to make a
decision who are you going to marry
you're going to think what would my rebi
have said what would my Mo have said
what neighborhood should I live what
would my rebi have said what would my
rashash Shiva have said that's what a
star is all about a star is there even
if you can't see them that's what a real
star is all about that rebi that MOA
that parent that has made such a
lifelong impression you don't have to
see them anymore but you're thinking all
the time what would they say that's what
it's all about and tonight we've come to
talk about those type of stars that we
can no longer see
but they are the real stars because they
are the ones who died ales hasem and
that's what we've come to learn from and
you know when I Was preparing for this
talk I was wondering as RAB shinefeld
mentioned before for years the survivors
they never spoke about it never said
anything about it so if that's the case
why should we come and talk about it
they didn't talk about it so so why are
we talking about it and I'll tell you a
fabulous
answer the kenberg Reba who NE lost a
wife and 11 children was once asked he
said how is it that so many who lost so
much parents children siblings spouses
how are they able to build look at this
so many people here can I so many people
in the world that are those that were
built by these who went through the
geham in this world how did they do it
and the Clen rebba gave a brilliant but
puzzling answer he said the answer
is now when the people asked him that
question and they heard what he said
they said rebba what do you
mean it's something that you say by a
bris in their blood they shall live
something that we say by
the but what's it got to do with the
question and the answer the answer was
how did they build and listen how
brilliant he explained it he said
doesn't only mean in their
blood we all know that when a lost his
two children the POS tells
us was quiet
doesn't only mean
blood comes from the word they were
quiet in their quietness they lived they
didn't focus on the past cuz if they
would have focused on the past they
couldn't get by one day they knew they
had a job to build soay in their
quietness and not talking about the past
but just knowing what their job was for
the future that's how they built it but
now after all these years when we see
the halite of what they built as ra
mentioned
the the communities all over the
world then now we can begin talking
about it now we can assess what they
really were and what they really meant
but if they would have spoken about it
right after when they came out they
would never be able to
build so as Rabel mentioned I've had the
opportunity numerous times to be an it
to be in
midic and it's just impossible no matter
what video you see until you're there
and to witness it and to see that the
barracks are still there and the shoes
are there and the TM are there and the
suitcases are there and so every time
when we go there I tell people I want to
give them an approach how we should walk
through alwiz how we should walk through
midic which is literally just a few
miles from
Lin and I tell them as follows the posk
tells us
when heard that his son Y is
alive
means said it's
wonderful my son is
alive let me go see him before I die so
the simple meaning is raav a raav is
called a ra because they know a lot ra
my joy is
great but the medish tit is totally
different Rashi is tiing according to
the but do you know what the medish
says said my son is greater than I
am he had so much
sorus he had the problems with his
brothers he had the problem with ptif he
had the problem in in everything all the
time sold from one group of Arabs to
another and he still remained
a he's much better than me because I had
problems and I questioned Hashem but my
son he's greater than me R because he
went through such him and he
still and that's what I tell the people
as we stand outside that gate in alwiz
or if we go to midic just remember ra
those people are greater than we could
ever hope to be and I tell him the story
about that person on
Kaneka who wanted to bench khek we you
going to get a
Mana so did you ever realize that two
forks equal eight
prongs and that they took some wax and
wound it around each of the prongs of
the fork and every night they got a
little cotton a little Wick and they put
it on one of the prongs and then by the
eth night of Kaneka they held up two
forks and that's how they were able to
make Kaneka
LIF and we're worried if we have a big
silver one or a little silver one or how
much oil it's going to light a whole
night we'll never be like them never and
that's how we have to look at these
people ra they are greater and we have
to talk about them with the gr that
their I want to share with you some
stories about some of the people who
lived during that
era there's a woman that I love very
much she's one of the my favorite women
in this world and I can say it because
she's
96 she's my son-in-law schl fer his Mrs
Ila roberg who lives in Detroit I'm
telling you if you're ever in Detroit
you have to go and speak to this person
an incredible human
being she's so incredible she just
bought a new car she's
96 so she went to the motor motor
vehicles Bureau and this little
22-year-old chuchi you know who's
registering the car and she takes a look
she can't believe are you the one who's
registering this car she says how long
are you registering it she says five
years says five years what are you gonna
do after five years she said I'll
re-register
so Mrs Ila Rober has her head screwed on
straight so she told me she told me was
1938 was before chrisal a few months
before her husband Alex was teaching in
stutgart in the Yesa in the day he
taught Hebrew studies and she taught
English studies they had just gotten
married and at that time already in 1938
they were rationing food so you could
only get a certain amount of bread no
yid could buy
chocolate you could only get a certain
amount of butter and you could only get
four eggs a month four eggs a month so
she told me that every Friday she would
take one egg and she made a little cake
for her husband Alex and that was a
specialty for
chabas that's they didn't have much food
but chabes that's what she used the egg
for she saved it for Friday to make a
little cake for shabas she told me one
Friday Alex was teaching she's home in
the kitchen and she opens up the egg and
it has a bloodstop in
it and she can't believe it this is the
only egg that she has for this week and
now the egg is trfe she can't use it so
she told me she was thinking you know
it's really just on top maybe I could
just wipe it off and then it didn't
pierce the egg yet so maybe I could use
it but there were no raon to ask Ron
were taken away already
she had no parents so she told me she
figured look I'll make the cake I'll
scrape away that blut scrub and if we
ever get out of here alive I'll ask a
Rob if I did the right thing M he'll
tell me that look you know you were poor
you didn't have food for shabas it was
okay and if he says that I shouldn't
have done it so I won't do it
again and then she said to me she
thought of her husband
Alex and she thought of
the and she said Alex trust me we know
how much men know about kasas in the
kitchen very little so they rely on
their wives she said he trusts me he'll
never know the difference only Hashem
will know the difference I'm not going
to use the egg I can't betray him and
I'm not going to betray the r sh and so
she told me she threw out the egg washed
out the dish and now she had another
decision to make does she use next
week's egg for this week's cake cake
well this week we won't have a cake so
she told me she figured who knows if
we'll leave him be alive next week I'm
going to use next week's egg for this
week's
cake she washed out the bowl
again she cracked open the egg and out
came two
yolks and Mrs Ila roberg Omar roberg
told me such a beautiful beautiful
thought I want to quote it exactly she
says
sometimes sends you a small
insignificant message but it's all a
person needs to carry them for the rest
of their
lives those two yolks that came out of
that second egg showed her the is saying
to you you're my daughter you I can
trust because nobody would have known
the difference except me and you but you
are faithful to me and you're my
daughter and you're the one that I trust
and incredible beautiful story of a
person who was so poverty stricken but R
raav perhaps greater than any of us
could ever hope to
be you know I didn't think about it
until
tonight that I'm going to talk about the
relatives of the shelds RAB schom
jakobitz RAB schom jakobitz was a ro he
was actually a principal of a whole
network of schools in Toronto called aim
and I remember one year I was traveling
to Israel I had already known him
because I was in Toronto numerous times
to talk for the benefit of his schools
and it's important to remember that it
was the year
2000 and we're flying to Isel
forus and you know when you see one
child after the other is extraordinary
his brother was Lord Emanuel jacobitz
and he is who he is and there was a
third brother M all one is better and
bigger than the other so anytime I see
children like that one after the other I
always like to know what the parents
were like so I said to him you know you
must have had incredible parents tell me
something about your father it's
interesting his name was
yo so he tells me his father was a r in
Berlin and again this was also in
and we know that Chris Al happened
November 38 this is October sukus is
always in October so he said his
father's m
was su he loved sitting in the Suka that
was a Mitzvah every one of us has a
Mitzvah that we feel very close to so he
told me that they lived on the third
floor and they had like a little deck in
the front in the front porch from the
third
floor and that's where they would have
normally made the Suka but now everybody
was afraid cuz the SS guards were
already marching up and down the streets
so how you going to make a so look up
they'll see a Suka they could not only
break the Suka take the people to jail
and take away their jobs who knows what
could
be so he told me that his father showed
him the first mishna in Suka now anybody
who learns this mishna in Suka they're
trying to figure out what in the world
are one I'm talking about why would they
even teach us this you know what the is
that the smallest type of Suka the
lowest height that you could have for a
Suka is 40 in 10 that's about from the
floor this High not that floor this
floor right here 40 in who in the world
is going to build a su like that why did
kazal teach it to us they taught it to
us for jobz you know what he did he
realized that if he measured the wall
the retaining wall and it was 44 in high
now don't forget he's on the third floor
so he builds a Suka 40 Ines high this
high is the Suka and he puts on top of
it so now it's 2 in of so it's still 42
in so when the SS guards are Marching up
and down and they look up they can't see
this they can't see the Suka cuz the
wall is 44 in and the Suka is only 40
plus two
for and he told me they didn't miss one
meal they put pillows on the floor he
went in the Suka okay the wives the wife
and the daughter didn't eat in the
Suka they didn't sing zirus that they
didn't do right nobody should hear but
they didn't miss one meal Aus they sat
on the floor on
pillows that's rough that's people who
went through those times those bitter
times and yet look how they
responded it's an amazing thing I had
this you know many of you know me here
personally I mean I grew up with K you
know before I before I knew my wife I
knew
ha but all these people from Q Gardens
you're like brothers and sisters so she
knows and everybody knows here that my
father passed away when I was 21 and
there were very few people who wanted to
help me Rabbi shonfeld was a dear friend
of my father shalom it's one of the only
Rabon who trusted a 21y old Mo I don't
know how you did it but I'm grateful
that you did it I would come into a
house and the grandmother would say oh
you look so young so I would say what
the baby's also
young but RAB shonel trusted me a lot of
others you know they said you get
experience in 5 years 5 years we all
would have starved you know I was
supporting my mother my younger brothers
and sisters but one of the people who
helped me was Rabbi
jacobitz and his wife Amal was like a
sister to my mother for all the years
and I became very very close to the
family when I go to England I always
stayed by elisheva hurger which is
amal's daughter and I'm very very close
so am once told me this amazing story
you know they lived in France she was
the daughter of RAB Leo monk they lived
in France and then NE they had to run
because the Germans occupied France and
she told me about a friend of hers
Gertie and Gertie her
father also was in France and they had
to run they had to run from where they
were and they had to come to Paris and
now Gertie and her mother and the two
sisters they were living alone because
the father was taken to the
Army and Ne then the Germans came deeper
into France and they had to run away and
they went on trains and the trains were
packed and some of the people everybody
was desperate we should never ever know
from those
situations they were desperate and what
happened was that they tried to get on
the trains and sometimes there were
little kids on the train they pushed the
kids off the train cuz they wanted to
save their own lives so many times this
little Gertie had to was pushed from one
side of the train to the other she
couldn't find her parents her mother
every time she found them except one and
of course that was the last time she
know where her mother was she was afraid
to be on the train alone she got
off and she slept in a forest one night
and she realized this is not an Asic so
am told me that this Gertie told her she
knocked on a farmhouse knocked on the
door and the fellow said I know where
you're from come I have another girl
that's in the basement just like you
I'll protect you don't worry
and she came and she was in the basement
with this other girl in this Farmhouse
and within a few days two boys old these
kids were less than 13 less than 12
little kids so now they were three girls
and two boys each one was afraid to say
what the truth of their background was
but eventually they all admitted to each
other they were all
yiden and this farmer would bring down
food to them every day and they were in
a seller there was a window on top
obviously they would go out but they
could just see the Sun and they knew
when it was day and when it was
night and Gertie and am would tell the
story every year at the PES s she said
all of a sudden they began realizing as
the days were going on that the sun was
brighter and that there was grass that
was growing near the house so that meant
that soon pesak is coming now this
farmer was a so he wouldn't know
when pesak is coming so they decided
they're going to designate a day for
pesak and somehow they're going to try
to get a matah so what did they do you
wouldn't believe it so they asked the
fellow that he should give him some
flour bottle of water a newspaper and
matches and listen to what they
did they took the flow under the water
they mixed it together they took the
matches they lit the newspaper and the
boys who were a little bit more Brave
held this flat flower and the fire
underneath you know burned it it or lit
it warmed it less than 18 minutes and
they had the weirdest looking matzah
they ever saw in their lives but then
they had a
Seda now no new clothes no wine so the
boys changed clothes with each other so
that's new clothes and the girls
exchanged clothes and one boy remembered
kiddish one girl remembered Manana and
they sang danu and they sang kaj
whatever and that was the SATA that they
had
raav greater than we could ever hope to
be and Amal would always say to her
children grandchildren and great
grandchildren we should never know from
that type of
seder but the Abisha should help that
all our sedor should be as holy as that
Seda
was that's what it's all about I want to
share with you one of the most moving
moments of my
life as was mentioned before I have the
opportunity to travel to many of these
places where yides kite flourished and a
couple years ago for the first time I
was going to go to
Hungary and I have a m Alex Kramer and I
told him I'm going to be in Budapest and
he said I'll come with you he said I
can't come on the whole trip I'm aan you
go to the quarum and you D in there it's
not I can't be by the quarum but I was
born in Hungary so I'll meet you I said
I'm going on the last day of the trip
you'll only be there one day you're
going to slept from Los Angeles all the
way to to Budapest he said look I want
to be with you for that day I have
relatives I haven't seen them in many
years it's kada for me we go through the
whole trip the last day we come and I'm
s I'm coming into the hotel in Budapest
and sure enough Alex and shanea kma are
there and as we're sitting eating dinner
together I tell her what my plan is for
tomorrow and I say you know what the
stier rather the stier said that any
place where died that's AES and it's an
IND to there
so I told him that before I went to
Budapest I went to Mr schurger in
Brooklyn and he told me what happened
along the danub river along the Danel
River neb they had taken yiden and they
shot them they tied yiden together and
they shot them into the water but they
didn't shoot all the yiden that were
tied together two or three they only
shot one and the force of him falling
into the water dragged in the other two
and those other two were
drowned and he told told me that Eli
weisenthal no not Eli weisenthal um
what's his name
uh no
notel no ra Wallenberg that's the name
I'm looking for I knew it had something
to do with Spring Valley or mon Ral
Wallenberg right so what did he
do from the Mish from
theik so what he did was he got got
passports he got 10
passports and when the women were lined
up when the women were lined up he went
and he said to the Germans I've got 10
passports you got to let me take off 10
people and he was able to rescue those
people and I said to my that's what I'm
going to tell everyone I'm going to go
to the danu river and we're going to be
missal there so Alex says to me I was
there
today I said really he says I want to
show you something now Alex Kramer is a
phenomenal
photographer and he shows me the
memorial that they put up at the danu
river look at up tonight on Google shoes
on the danu you'll mamish faint it's
like this video just look at that what
it is over there it's amazing a whole
row of empty
shoes shoes of parents shoes of
grandparents and the thing that will
break your heart is the little sh the
little children empty
that's the memorial along the
danu I couldn't talk I saw one frame
after the other I said Alex do not show
this to anyone I want everybody to be as
stunned as I was when they go there
tomorrow and then I said I'm going to
tell the story about Wallenberg he says
my mother was on that line I said Alex
what are you talking about he said it
was before I was born my mother and my
older sister were on that line and while
alberg came with the 10 visas and he was
told he could pick off any 10 women that
he wanted and he took the 10 youngest
women and their children one of them was
my mother I said Alex tomorrow you're
going to tell everybody that story when
we stand along the danu and of course
the next day in the morning I told
everybody we're going to the danu shot
into the water and it's a kades we're
going to D in there but I didn't tell
them about the
memorial and then when they got off the
bus and they saw the shoes they were
such crying there was such I'm telling
you we Stang and we
cried and we sang and we
doed and it was just the most moving
moment to stand next to those empty
shoes what it symbolized what a
brilliant brilliant type of
Memorial that was the last day of the
trip the next day I came back to America
wherever I went I spoke about those
shoes was the end of the summer comes
rash right before
y we were speaking about
before ask me as he does every year says
do me a favor make the Yar appeal in sh
I said okay
fine the next day ier I got up and I
said to everyone I said you know
something stunning happened in aashu
rash and everybody's looking at me what
happened rashash we were all here
together we didn't see anything stunning
I said not only that happened the second
day rashash as as
well and everybody's looking at me and
then I told them the story of the danub
with the empty shoes and I told him the
first day R right after when the so I D
near the front of the sh my Talus was
over my head and then when I took off
the Talis off my head I take a lookes
there a whole row of empty
shoes shoes of zus shoes of fathers and
shoes of little kids I couldn't look at
it I started crying I couldn't look at
those empty shoes
sh and then the second day I was already
waiting for it and I said to the people
that we were going about to say yes I
said what's the difference between those
shoes on the danu and these shoes that
are here in every sh in the world on y
when
they those shoes those shoes remain
empty that's why we came into this
world the shoes of the all the shoes
that we have that are empty we can put
our feet in we could go do we could go
learn we could do we could
go but those shoes remain empty
forever and that's when I first started
saying that six million is a lie because
every one of those could have had
children and
grandchild that's what the tells us that
said
toen the voice of the Bloods of your
brother are crying out to me what do you
mean the bloods what Bloods
so Rashi says the simple meaning is that
Ken stabbed him so many times so there
was blood coming from many
places but then Rashi says no what it
means the blood of his children and
grandchildren cuz when he killed heav he
killed future
generations and that's why we say kades
tonight but we're going to say that
Kadesh we have to
know that kades is not only about the
people that were nter you Haven noticed
and Kadesh you never say the person who
died you come into a Shore you see a
fellow saying Kadesh you want to know
who's he saying kades for his father his
mother grandfather what happened no
Kadesh is not only about the one who
passed away Kadesh Is our commitment to
them and into the future that's why we
don't mention the name because every
time when a person passes away there's a
void there's an emptiness who's going to
fill that void that's what the says
I'm going to fill that void I'm going to
be mad and if all of us tonight can take
off our shoes and tomorrow morning put
them on that's what we have to do they
died Al we have to live ales that's what
it's all
about so I want to tell you one more
story about a person that you all know
all know of and that's Rim andab the
most incredible story that you could
imagine
raim Schwab when he was a young man he
was a ro in a place called isin
hous this was long before he was known
and
famous he was a young
grov and again the SS guards were
traveling all around Germany making sure
that the Rabon don't RI up the yiden
against the
Nazis and it was par
B and RAB gave it and one of the SS man
was sitting in the
back and he had RAB arrested and R
Schwab was under house arrest why was he
arrested because R Schwab was saying
I'll say you to you in English what he
was saying and then I'll show you how it
happened in German he was saying that we
don't need an intermediary we can davem
right direct three times a day we stand
and we double we talk direct we don't
need an inter inter inter an
intermediate
so how do you say that in German soab
said doish f the Jewish Nation broke
mler we don't need a middleman the guy
in the back
heard what he say
Hitler he thought o what is this Rabbi
crazy he's telling the Jewish people M
BR kind Hitler he didn't hear the word
mitler so he had him
arrested and listen to this you won't
believe it R Schwab every night went to
sleep wearing his shabas
suit not his pajamas his shabas suit and
his children who told me the story they
said to him why are you going to sleep
with your shabas suit listen to what
Anum God his perception he says I know
these Nazis I know the Germans they
could come in middle of the night and
they'll grab me and they'll Hang Me In
The City Square you know what a it'll be
if the Rob is hanging in his
pajamas I'd rather be hanging in my
shabas suit so it won't be
a who thinks of
that in the time of geh when a person
thinks that he could be hung that's what
he's worried
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about bra these people were so great and
that's why we come
tonight and so I just want to end with
this magnificent magnificent story
we know that one of the
heroes during the second world war was M
be Weiss Mandel he tried desperately to
save thousands of thousands of yiden and
Nitra in all those
areas there's a wonderful book that has
written about him it's called the
unheated
cry so now ra M he came to America NE he
lost his wife and five children he moved
up to Mount
Kisco and and then he had five children
listen to what he said at the bris of
his fifth
son he said on the other side I lost
five
children and now the has given me back
five
children he said they died ales hasem my
hope he said is that these five children
will live ales hasem and then he made
one of the most brilliant statements
you'll ever hear he said I hope that
these children will be able to say as
they will say up
in let us
sanctify hashem's name in this
world just like they are sanctifying H's
name in in the heavens because they
died and then
AR the children in Shay and the children
in Earth will be able to say each one
isad they died they are
surely I hope that they'll be able to
look down at my children and say they
too kadad kades and that's why we say
kades and that's why we come here
tonight it is the
Kadesh it is the Kadesh not only for the
G general public of those who we don't
know it's the Kadesh for all of us
tonight we have to make the
commitment that we will be people of
kadus that they'll be able to look at us
from Shay and say
kadad and then together we'll be able to
say both those in this world and those
in the next World can say we are living
lives of
sanctity I thank Mrs Russo I thank the
shelds I thank all the sponsors the
Brocks and all the others Hashem should
bench every single one of you for
bringing this night so that we should be
able to be inspired and truly become the
am Kadesh thank you for inviting me and
thank you for listening