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Okay. So excited to be learning Torah
together. And here at Yeet, we are going
to dedicate our Torah and mitzvah
towards the building of the Beta Mikdash
and the protection of all of our is
especially all of our we should only see
blessing in all of our lives and in the
lives of the whole Jewish people, the
whole world.
So it should be uh interesting here.
Today we're gonna do a bit more of zoom
out. Sometimes we focus more on zoom in
and every word of the to try to make it
powerful and meaningful. Today I want to
talk a little bit more about the history
and the interesting
details of Nahm
which um
which will
enlighten and make
us think a little bit deeply about what
our tishab what we want our tishbub
experience to look like this year. The
truth is every year tishab is a strange
day for me probably for a lot of people
because you know I like sim I'm really
pro sim
if I had to choose one day what will
they say about me you know when I go to
the next world
um I would I would like people to say ah
he was pro simka he tried to make people
happy he tried to increase people's
awareness of simkha he was a pro simka
type of
In fact, today is the yard site of the
holy Arizal and the says the we put into
mitzvah. He especially spoke about the
sim of with that's where he drew all of
his great spirits all of his
it came from the of the mitzvah
and especially in
you have to dab him with actually you
have to do all of life with sim right
there was a time in my life when I had
challenging things happen and I came to
this kind of revelation that like you
can take everything from me but you
can't take my sim. I started getting
really obsessed with positive psychology
and the ability to choose joy. Read like
10 10 books. I really like sima is the
point I'm getting at which makes tish
above a little bit awkward because the
other 364 days a year you can walk
around smiling and everybody's cool with
it, right? But there's one day of the
year that it's a little bit awkward.
Why? Because there are many which seem
to lead us down the path to think that
tishabove it's a different vibe.
Tishabove we're a little bit more
serious. Tishabove we're mourning.
Tishab, we're supposed to cry, right?
Tishabove. We're not supposed to walk
in, you know?
like like we're going to see in some of
the language of the of the mafarim. It's
like your mace is before you at least in
the beginning stages of tishov you're
someone just died and and that's the
vibe of tishov. So imagine you're having
a a se what's it called? A burial and
someone in your family just passed away
and then the rest of us show up and they
say
it's a little inappropriate. You know
what I'm saying? The other times it's
fine but like not really the the time
right. So the same way tishov at least
in the beginning
it's not it's not really the time to be
jumping and dancing up right even during
these nine days to start getting ourel
in the mood we're still
a little bit less a little bit less
dancing jumping a little bit you know
more toned down right
so it's an interesting day for someone
who for
know that is the essence of our of but
yet this Today we're supposed to at
least not focus so much on the
and it gets even a little bit more
awkwarder I think in our particular time
period as we'll talk about cuz we live
in a unique time period in Jewish
history right we live in a time when all
the rabbis are saying every YouTube
video is saying Msiah is very close and
many many signs of the redemption Iran
Persia this kamar that kabala It's about
we should be we should do a shar like
that too. I'm I'm on their I'm on their
team. The Msiah's closed.
And not only is Msiah closed, but we see
in front of our eyes an uplifted up a
beautiful with people learning Torah and
davening in ways which never saw before
with people serving the army who are
also learning and dvening with with a
rebuild your shalim the train you know
just meters away. so much construction
here in your
and yet as we'll as we'll see the of the
doesn't seem to reflect that reality of
this joyous rebuilt.
So that's what I kind of want us to to
to to think about as we jump into the
details and we'll get back to it by the
end of our year. Is tish of a happy day?
Is it a sad day? Now that we're back in
Shalah and we're in hopefully the
footsteps of the redemption to the
change our attitude towards tishov
should tish be different in toughen pav
than it was 150 years ago in the okay
these are questions I want us to think
about we're not going to answer them
right now we're going to jump into
that's just an introductory thought okay
I tell you when it really gets awkward
by the way at the 8 afternoon, right?
Because I somehow I always end up in one
of these summer programs and I'm at the
hotel. Even if I'm not on a summer
program, I have a minog that we try to
make a kdish leavon after tishab when
we're finally allowed to be happy. We
give out like watermelon to the and we
dance and sing. We're finally allowed to
do kdish lavan after tish. So I'm always
at the kotel on on on tishabove
afternoon and what happens tish of
afternoon nsy and now the whole world
makes a big kzit and everyone's singing
and it's very nice and then you see
everyone you haven't seen you know all
your my old friends from a hotel from 20
years ago you see them and then you want
to give them a big hug but it's like oh
I'm not allowed to greet you hey how not
not hi not hi how are you I'm terrible
how are you couldn't be worse
you know, and like and it's just this
awkward conversation where you're not
allowed to be happy, but you're kind of
happy and the the music, the singing is
kind of uplifting. It's kind of really
nice, but like I'm still supposed to be
mourning, but it's the end of tishab, so
maybe I can a little bit less mourn. You
know, I'm not sitting on the chair. So,
these are some of the confusing emotions
which I think a lot of us uh have
experienced on tishab. So let's on that
note let's jump into
there is a prayer which I'm sure many of
us are familiar with
which is said at the in our min prayers
and it's basically a prayer
well let's read it together and you tell
me the vibe happy sad what are we what
are we praying for I'm going to read it
in English Okay.
Console, O Lord our God, the mourers of
Zion, the mourers of your and the city
that's in sorrow, laid waste, scorned
and desolate, that grieavves for the
loss of its children, that is laid waste
of its dwellings, robbed of its glory,
desolate, without inhabitants. She sits
with her head covered like a barren
childless woman. Legions have devoured
her. Idolattors have taken possession of
her. They have put your people Israel to
the sword and deliberately killed the
devoted followers of the most high.
Therefore, Tion weeps bitterly and your
raises her voice. My heart, my heart
grieves for those they killed. I'm in
anguish for the they those they killed.
For you, oh Lord, consumed it with fire
and with fire you will rebuild it in the
future. as I said and I myself will be a
wall of fire around it says the Lord and
I will be its glory within. Blessed are
you Hashem who consoles Zion and
rebuilds Jerusalem. So that is the
current day of the Nahim prayer. So
first of all uh one would be uh sad and
10 would be happy happy. What would you
guys give the vibe of?
What do you guys think? One to 10 sad
>> one is sad and 10 is happy.
>> Two or three. zero.
>> We're getting ones, twos, threes. It's
not so happy. It's not so happy. I would
agree. Okay. So, it's a sad prayer. Now,
what are we praying for? That's that's a
little bit of a harder question. What
exactly are we asking God? It's very
beautiful. Very poetic. But but what do
we actually what do we want from God?
>> We want consolation. So, that's very
interesting.
>> How how are we going to get this
consolation? What would be our
consolation?
>> The rebuilding.
Oh, maybe
>> maybe. What do I mean by that? If the
language would have been like the
original as we're going to talk about.
Ra means have mercy.
Have mercy on your and how will you have
mercy on your like we say at the end of
the prayer by rebuilding it. It was
destroyed with fire. We wanted to come
down with fire. Do we want literally to
come down a temple from the sky with
fire like we discussed like Rashi's shot
or we gonna rebuild it like the Rambam's
shot with fire inspired by Hashem? Okay,
that's another shar. But we want the B
mikdash back and so God have mercy upon
us and upon you
and rebuild the B mikdash
but
might have a different connotation.
Who do you what another way of looking
at it is who we're asking consolation
not only through the rebuilding the beta
mdash but right now even right now
what happens when you go to a shiva
house you're giving them
right but what happened I mean the the
nif is still dead so what's what's
changed
which changes our perspective.
First we were looking at it just from
the zoom in of like o someone died. Now
we're zooming out and we're saying it's
all for the best. Hashem has a plan.
Let's look at the bright side
is a shift in perspective.
What exactly is of
after all the m is still not here. So
what's last week we had no B of crying
this week we have no B of mign and now
suddenly we're happy what happens on tub
and shabas that we're suddenly so happy
so what's the answer
one answer is nothing happened our
perspective changes first we were
focusing on the negative and now we're
focusing on the big picture
so it could be that
is even now when we're still in the
pain. We want consolation. Okay, maybe
now I want to ask a few questions.
Question number one is what is the
correct? Question number two is when are
we supposed to say? And question number
three is where is the right place to put
the prayer in our prayers? All three of
these are debated by theim and by the
authorities. But through these details,
we're going to hopefully deepen our
understanding of the meaning behind.
Sounds good
or okay. So the the way to answer that
question we would assume is like go back
to the original source who made up was
it Mosherenu was it? So the answer is
the first source we have of is if you
look in the source sheet the
says the following.
If you're dabbing on tishab you have to
mention the day just like on uh perm we
mention the day just like on shabis just
like on yontiff we always mention the
holiday also it's we have to mention the
the unique status of that day
what should he say interesting about an
individual
god have mercy on your okay how how
should he have mercy on
He should
rebuild the beta mikdash. Okay. So that
is the original source of this prayer
from the very interesting nothing about
only although it does talk about the
individual not the not the
okay the does not mention this prayer at
all which in of itself is very
interesting. Seems like in when the is
being built they felt the pain and they
needed to mention in the
for whatever reason it's not mentioned.
Fascinating. Okay. We'll get back to
that. So what do we say
when we want to look if we how do we
codify something? What would be the
easiest and most the go-to first place
you go when you want to look at what's
what's the we go to the Rambam Rambam
catifies and right
that's already answering one of our
questions in the
He quotes the language of the
so so far if you had to guess how should
we say or what would you probably guess
at this point in our little learning
says the the the Rambam codifies.
Okay. So in
Rambam land if you're a Rambam guy I
have a I have a friend who only goes
according to the Rambam. He has a Rambam
sitter. I don't really think you're
allowed to do that but that's what he
does. And he probably says rahim. Okay,
that's what it says in the Rambam
sitter.
Who else says that? Many
be a boring sheer for me to just quote
you other rabbis, but
many all quote the language of
interesting. Okay. However, there were
rabbis who changed the
and at some point in history for some
reason it changed to who brings this
down the riff. The alasi, right? So,
it's a big I live on street but I'm
right next to Alasi. So, they're
fighting it out. Okay. So, the riff says
not.
Who's on the riff side? The rush.
Okay. So, the riff and the rush, the two
great reim
those, by the way, the whenever he's
pasing, he will very often quote the
riff and the rash and the ram to
determine what the is. Two of them say,
one of them say. So if we had to guess
how are we going to paskin how is the
going to puskin I would probably guess
because you got two out of three but
it's not for sure because a lot of times
goes like the ram bomb he's he's a big
ram guy he wrote the book commentating
on the raomishna
okay fine
let's see
what say
you should Aim
interesting.
Why? Okay, good. So, we got a little bit
of the history. Your says, the Ram says,
the other rabbis say, and we don't know
where that came from, where that where
that came from. And the like
all that is very nice. We want to say
why why and so here one more detail and
then I think we can plug in why there
was a
that the brings down which is was
brought in the
at you say at you say at you say
just to mix it up just to make the
sitter people work a little harder you
know keep you on your game. Why? What's
the difference? You guys are very smart
people, right? I give you I gave you a
little hint before. What's the
difference between Friday night I mean
night of day of and why the first two
and the third one
>> that's
morning we're starting to cheer up
again.
>> Very good. We know that sorry.
>> Ah so there is you're right. So there is
the bas himself suggests like that as
worse in the afternoon because B was
actually burning in the afternoon.
That's why we keep many of the customs
until the 10th of A and so in certain
ways oh the Mia is still not here.
They're even sadder.
But the B of the old circus quoted by
the bur says like
he says no we see we're allowed to sit
finally not just on the floor and you're
allowed to learn Torah at least things
related to tishab in the late afternoon
and so the tone changes originally all
we wanted is
we want and now we're consoling
ourselves that even if there's no mdash
hashem have consolation
have mercy upon us. By we're shifting
our perspective instead of dwelling on
what's bad, we're looking at the good
and we're asking Hashem to fill that put
put ourselves into us. So I I do not
know where exactly
the came from because again in our only
source for this prayer it says but at
some point in Jewish history I believe
everything is
right if this is our minog that's what
wanted to happen so apparently
understood that by the end of we need
and so the minhow shifted to be
so far So good. Interesting. Okay. Next.
When do we say this prayer? Well, let me
ask you. I know you probably already
know when we say the prayer because I
just mentioned it. Practically speaking,
when do we when do we actually say uh
insert the prayer?
But during which which of the prayers is
it in kadusha? Is it in is it is it
infenu?
>> Is it in alenu? It's in bonal.
Well, that makes sense cuz we're talking
about so we're praying for except maybe
it doesn't really make sense because
think about all the other times that we
mention holidays.
the holiday itself when we're talking
about I don't know Pes
right
when we're talking about we're talking
about the the other holidays when do we
mention the the actual holiday itself
during the
>> during the
that's when we do the avoid the B md we
mention that special holiday
there was a shittita in the we should
say it in the
okay it's not accepted
there's another besides this one's
really fascinating
there was a we should say it in in
>> just like perm
now that is really hard to understand
why is that hard to understand what's
the difference between perm and holiday
and
>> we're thank you for saving us on burim.
Thank you for Kaneka. Thank you Hashem
for tishab.
That's a little awkward. Doesn't seem to
really add up, right? So how do we make
it? First of all, we don't we don't pass
like that. Okay, but how do we make
sense of that
so
you have on a tish of um afternoon he
said has another meaning. Modi means I
recognize
that's why we said modi to thank someone
is to recognize that you're dependent on
them. So now at the end of tish I'm
recognizing I'm admitting that
everything is for the best that even the
destruction of your hashem has a plan
and that's the ultimate so it works so
beautifully we do it in the late
afternoon and that's why there's a could
be in
of recognition of course we don't we
don't do it like that rather we do it in
bonal
and we'll get back to this which to me
means that This is a different type of
prayer because we know the says whenever
you want to add something in your ding
when should you add it when it is
connected to that part of by the way
this is not just you're allowed this is
a recommendation of the let's say
someone's sick in the family or you you
know someone is sick so when should you
pray for them ideally in before you say
the words
you should add in
heali
right Let's say you need a
okay let's say you want a
so there as far as you put in
or maybe if you want her to be or you
could be it would be really creative but
in any case you you insert something
that's related to the prayer as a
personal request
so maybe maybe I didn't hear someone say
this but I'm pretty sure this is what
was getting at the fact that we put it
into means and
is not just a a set text that you have
to say.
By the way, if you don't say it, you're
still you don't have to do it again.
It's not like
rather what is it? It's a personal
prayer. It's a personal prayer that's
supposed to come to that the rabbis told
us how to how to say it.
And that if if indeed that that theory
is correct that will have a big namina
on the third and maybe in my opinion the
most uh fascinating part of our year
which is can we change the
okay and that is what I'd like to talk
about for our last part. The question is
can we change the
okay there have been big rabbis over the
course of time who have said absolutely
no changing the and there have been big
rabbis who have said absolutely yes we
should change the of nowadays okay
there are more rabbis who say no but
there are some rabbis who say yes and
let's talk about that Okay.
Um
first off as we just showed
the the of the is the of the most shown
is not
and the language of the is different
than the modern day which is very
similar to what we find in the vitri but
it's a different therefore says some
rabbis ahead of milo
uh barv and and others and since that we
our is not the original correct
we should go back to the original which
is he also feels grammatically it is
more correct to say rather than
okay
to me that's not super compelling in of
itself I'll tell you why as we've been
discussing this class many of our over
the course of time have evolved we've
seen virtually not many many of our
prayers when we go back to its original
source the gamarra said like this and
then the time in the show it slightly
shifted. So to say well back in the day
in the it was so now for even though
last 800 years ago and the says it's we
should change it back to just because
you know because we found an earlier
text.
I don't know to me that's not like it's
not so emotionally compelling and like
once has already been saying for a long
enough time. So now we say once upon a
time we said now we say Hashem flows
through Jewish history. However, there's
a much more I'd say compelling uh
element of this suga and that is the
fact that a simp simple as many rabbis
and many people have pointed out a
simple reading of nahim does not seem to
go with our modernday understanding of
Jerusalem.
What am I talking about again? And I'm
going to read read read read.
The city that is in sorrow laid waste
scorned and desolate.
Laid waste of its dwellings. No glory.
Desolate without inhabitants.
Her head covered like a barren childless
woman. Legions devoured her.
Idolattors have taken possession of her.
Okay.
What seems problematic about this text?
>> In tough tough 2026, it no longer seems
to be correct.
We're back in the land of Israel. Your
is not desolate. It's being built up.
There's thousands and thousands and
millions millions like a a lot of Jews
here.
It's very hard to say that it's robbed
of its glory. barren without
inhabitants.
It doesn't no longer seems to be uh
factually correct.
Therefore, many rabbis have wondered are
we still allowed to say raim.
After all, we have a concept in Judaism
of telling the truth,
especially when it comes to God. We have
a concept in general in davening to only
speak truth. I'll tell you a few
examples where this is brought in. Um
one example is
can you say
if it's not Saturday night? If it's
Sunday morning when you say is Saturday
night the answer is like most things.
Some say you can't say that. You have to
change the you can't lie to God. Other
people say no it's okay because it's in
general most people are saying it's
Saturday night another example in in the
in the liturgy of yum kipper this comes
up this question it asked about voy how
can I say I've killed I you know I did
this wrong I did that wrong I did this
wrong I did that wrong I'm not allowed
to lie before God here we have an answer
what do we generally say
>> it's plural
>> it's plural we did it you didn't do it
but we the Jewish people did it so
you're not lying but the fact that you
have the question the first place shows
that we want to speak the truth because
we don't want to lie to Hashem.
You got to be real with Hashem. You
can't can't say things which are no
longer true. So therefore, it might be
it's problematic to say something which
no longer is factually uh correct.
However,
it's more complicated than that. Um
let's let the first rabbi who brings
this question up is the barak shamar.
Now as I mentioned before I love the
safer bar shamar back in yeshiva it was
like my favorite feel of safer because
he's a genius. He analyzed every garra.
He knows every he tries to always
connect the gar to the and he writes a
brilliant
and he's brutally honest like he asked
great questions and even if it doesn't
have an answer he'll just still ask the
question
Epstein I believe he's the son of the
and he he passed away uh killed by in
1938 I think by the Nazis
and writes the following that year in
his safer
now that is built up. This is in 1938.
It's built up more than the old days
and there's a lot of Jews who live
there.
We can't describe it with how could we
describe it in this inaccurate way. It
doesn't it's not true.
Yeah, we are it's not really destroyed.
But as long as we the Jewish people are
not don't have sovereignty here, it's
still considered destroyed. is still
and that's what he brings that what is
dependent whether you tear ka or not
when you come to depends on sovereignty
if the Jewish people are in charge so
you don't tear ka
if the Jewish people are not in charge
so then you do tear ka not just in but
all throughout this applies oh you'll
ask me so then why do people tear ka
today when they go to the coel. So one
of one of the one of the far is because
Harabas
still is run by the wak to an extent and
therefore there's a big kiss on this too
like everything in Yiddish but there are
those who say since we still don't have
sovereignty we still is still in
this shows the importance of the on a
national level
but the point here is not see the point
is that he's saying that it's not we're
not lying even though but he has even
though um we we it's rebuilt but since
we don't have sovereignty it's like it's
destroyed what's the obvious question
that was in 1938
10 years later
we got back sovereignty in Erit Israel
and in 1967 we got back sovereignty inim
at least the old
So
what would the Barak what would Epstein
say today?
>> I think we have some I don't think I see
we don't have the right to go
>> maybe would say as we're going to see
like
that we still are missing big parts of
the equation. Oh maybe not at the end of
the day he's not here we can't ask him
but we'll see other rabbis who come to
interesting conclusions. Okay. But that
was uh fascinating to see his brutal
honesty and he he couldn't imagine that
we would have sovereignty over just 10
years later. Okay. Let's go through the
Mahmir camp. That's always more fun.
There's a lot of rabbis who say you
absolutely cannot there. Okay, I skipped
a step. After 1967, there were rabbis
who wanted to change the Nus. Okay, it
wasn't just in a theoretical sense like
Ruk Shamar. As I'll tell you, Raorin
Mameish wrote a different Nus as the
chief rabbi of the army.
But the other rabbis,
this became a big political dispute, the
chief rabbis, Ashkenazi and disagreed
with him. Ra is Yehuda Unman, the chief
Ashkanazi rabbi at the time was very
opposed to any change in
why he said they're still full of
churches and mosques and full of
destroyed synagogues. They still hadn't
rebuilt the and
he says we're still in destruction.
says Ysef the chief rabbi of course you
cannot change the text first of all it
was established by the anessa
which by the way I'm not sure how he
reached that conclusion cuz we saw it
was from the butami didn't say from the
doesn't mean it wasn't but also not
everything necessarily in the shami is
from the but that's what feels and we
don't have the power to change the and
he quotes that that every word of is
super powerful.
Not only that, but this
it's lacking. There's the low religious
level. There's churches and mosques
everywhere.
There's all sorts of things missing. And
then don't even talk about the Temple
Mount, right?
Are are on there all the time,
right? Absolutely not.
by the way if there's any uh if cats or
you know out there we need aim song you
know we have it's great
I think is a listener I think he's avid
we need okay we wouldn't have a debate
if we had a good song nobody would even
think about changing the okay anyways um
who else was very against changing the
ra ysef
Bar Salvich
Shiva of Yeshiva University
was asked this question. He opposed any
change to he says first of all
the den of according to the Ram is like
the den of the B mikdash. So when we say
is destroyed and lacking inhabitants,
we're not lying because in B mikdash in
in Harabay there are lacking
inhabitants and we don't have full
jurisdiction there. I know there's been
changes at the time of Salv and you
weren't allowed to go up there and bow
and whatever but nonetheless it's still
in a sense according it's not fully
there. We don't have full sovereignty.
And second of all, in general or
salvation didn't like changing the too
much. Remember, he's living in a time
where there's a big clash between modern
Orthodox and or the YU worlda and the
conservative and the conservative was
and the reformer were changing the here
and there all the time. I remember the
first time when I was 8 years old, I
walked into reform shul was my cousin's
bar mitzvah and I was dabbing. I used to
dab and chuckle a lot and then I get at
the al
you know S and R and I was like what is
going on here? I'm very confused. I
think they were confused too. Anyways
the point is
does not like changing the this once you
change one thing who knows what's what
we're going to change. By the way as I
prepared this year I started thinking
about it. There's a lot of stuff in our
sitter if we're actually honest about it
which doesn't fully seem to be
completely accurate. Not a lot a lot but
there I'll give you an example. Look
through
in uh in the section we describe how and
now we're like sheep being led to the
slaughter house
you know and we have no one to defend
us. We have no home. So now we have to
change that. also we have to say oh it's
not true we're not cheap fl we have the
Israeli army I don't know I don't know
maybe some things we're not we don't
change every little thing so quickly you
know we say this is what Alam has always
said so we try to connect to it and we
find a meaningful explanation for it but
we don't just throw it away nilly willy
that's I'd say the more classical
approach and not only is this the
approach of any postkin but if you look
at every sitter today and they've been
reprinted many times the koren and the
art scroll and
every sitter you're going to see the
same that was brought by the mak of
vitri in the 11th century you're not
going to see newer explanation versions
of the so apparently they held like the
traditional view this is what our
ancestors did this is what we're doing
however it was fascinating to note that
there were some rabbis who felt
differently let's name a few quickly
goren who was as always a very uh
fascinating bold revolutionary rabbi. So
he said after the six day war we cannot
go on and say the same language that is
destroyed. It would not be true. And he
wrote his own version of of based on the
I included in the source sheet if you're
curious. And uh it wasn't a radical
change but same it's still sad but it's
it it it takes out the the parts of the
which he felt were inaccurate and there
are still those by the way there there
are some who go like the minions that go
like the of Ravgoran. As an interesting
side note though later in his life
Ravgoran changed his mind. He said after
the debacle of the Yom Kipper war and
when he saw that they were trying to do
lands for peace there was a spiritual
demise and he no longer he said we're
still in we're still in the gulas the
gullis are still here. So that's
interesting. Another rabbi who felt that
the need to be changed was
David Halevi who was the chief rabbi of
Tel Aviv and his language whether you
agree with him or not I find to be very
uh inspirational.
Um he says like this, I felt on the
first tishabove after the six- day war
that I can no longer say in my in my
prayers these things which are an
examination of a liar before God.
Not only throughout the whole year but
especially on holidays including the 5th
yatmoon on 20th of ER is bustling with
celebrating thousands upon thousands of
sons of the nation. But even on tishab
the day of national mourning when masses
of bait is come to the western wall
wrapped in mourning for the destruction
of the house. Even then a certain corner
is felt in my heart into which mourning
cannot penetrate. It is a corner of joy
at the beginning of the growth of our
redemption. And therefore there is no
doubt that there is a a liar before God
to say this about your the desolate city
of desolation without its sons. So what
he said is instead of changing the whole
with like said he just said was
destroyed
was destroyed but not that it is
destroyed but he did he did kind of
change the also Israel Ariel who is the
founder of Mikdash the temple institute
you can go visit him in the old city and
he has a 125word a long different
version of uh the prayer. Okay,
with that said, there's a little bit of
a middle ground
certainly saw the blessings of your
he said on a level on a n on a communal
level, we can't change the this is a
it's a but on a personal level on a
personal prayer level if a person wants
to he's allowed. we're not gonna hold a
person back from changing the
and to me was I I'd say uh very I'd say
surprising and even a little inspiring
is that
the rashiva of himself
felt that it was be lying before God. It
was inappropriate to say the full text
version. So he said basically the whole
thing but he left out the four words
that grieavves for the loss of its
children that is laid waste of its
dwellings robbed of its glory desolate
without inhabitants. So he says the
whole thing but the the part about how
it's desolate how there's no one here in
his personal
he felt he couldn't say that and he
would take it out which I thought was
very bold for uh for a rabbi like
who was father-in-law
okay so he knew very well what what his
father-in-law felin law felt but uh was
his own postk as much as he had a
tremendous disrespect for Salvage just
like Salvage was his own post and uh
this is what he felt he felt it would be
he couldn't say inaccurate words and if
I were to put it together how could he
change the god forbid we change the no
perhaps I could suggest but again we say
it in as part of our personal prayers
it's not only a te a set text which you
have to say the exact words
were telling us what we should say in
our personal prayer and therefore
perhaps
felt
that there's more wiggle room that it
has to be accurate and there's a little
bit of uh flexibility this is not set in
stone the same way like Radu Ysef and
Rav Salvichek seem to feel it it was
okay
so that's the hik and background part of
the shar
But just to finish off, we started off
asking is tishab a happy day or is it a
sad day? And the answer of course is
both.
Okay, there are people that have come to
me and said, "Rabbi tishab, that was in
the olden days. I get it. But nowadays,
we're back in your shahai. We don't have
to be sad anymore. We don't have to fast
anymore. Let's just party, you know.
Let's let's let's have a good time. And
that is not correct. That is not the
Torah perspective.
Because one day a year, we need to stop
and remember our history. Especially in
our generation when so many people are
so disconnected from context, from
history, from Jewish history. They they
just have no clue. We need a day when
no, we don't learn Torah. We remember
our history. and not just remember but
we try our best to experience our
history
to feel it a little bit and that's what
we're trying to do in the kinas and
that's what we're trying to do at night
and that's what we're trying to do in
and go to a good speaker who's going to
make you cry a little bit and if you
can't cry from the speaker okay I'll
give you a hat to listen to uh one of
these sad you know tish movies they put
out on mazikaron or shindler's list or
Asia Torah and if that'll bring you to
cry honestly that's usually what brings
me to cry that's good too but you need
to feel a little bit and there's nothing
wrong with being crying every once in a
while it's not a contradiction to
himself says that every day a a Jew
should cry for the gullus that's the
ideal we should every day ideally a
little bit try to mourn and cry for the
gullus you know the bach the holy circus
He wanted to publish his but he was not
having success publishing as far. He had
a dream and in the dream it was
revealed. You know why you're not
publishing your cuz you're not mourning
for the bet mdash for the you're only
worrying about your own personal
ambitions. What about the and he took it
to heart. He started doing mourning and
he was to publish this true story. So
okay it's hard for us. It's hard for us
to do. It's not It's hard for us in our
generation, but at least one day a year,
yes, we we we should stop being so
happy, clappy a little bit at night,
feel the pain, cry a little bit, watch
that sad movie, whatever does it for
you, and connect to Jewish history,
connect to our tradition.
And at the same time at the end of the
day as we transition out of tishov if
mdish is still not here as in my opinion
said there is a corner of our heart that
has to feel look there's a little bit
here look at all these Jews singing and
yearning and wanting to get close to you
look at you look at all the beautiful
things that we live in in this community
look at all the beautiful things that
has done for.
Look as in says
at the time when the base of mid is
being destroyed, you would think that
the kuim were looking opposite but
instead they were hugging one another
because at that time
aesh revealed his deep love for the
Jewish people and instead of destroying
the Jewish people he destroyed
the the stones of the base to
And we feel that in the afternoon of
and we feel
and there's
is is
a sh of that this is the month when we
feel like God is our father that he
loves us that he's going to rebuild the
base of mdash and that he gives us the
opportunity in our generation to rebuild
the base of mikdash everyone in our own
way so we should feel that love and we
should take it not just as a um sad day
but as a challenge. We know the tishimov
ultimately is going to be a moed like
the zakaria says it's going to be a
holiday
and our question is what role do I have?
What can I personally do in my wiping
out of in my way of rebuilding the beta
mikdash? Every person in their own way
we have to take upon ourselves as a
challenge. What can I do to rebuild the
ba mikdash? Not just morning for its own
sake, but morning to propel us to bring
us to do chuva like the Ramom says any
fast day that we don't do how do I do
chuva is a wasted fast day. So let's use
the end of the fast day, the afternoon
to have that, but also when we're
feeling a little bit better to ask
ourselves now what how can I personally
what is my role to to to play to help
bring the gula a little bit closer
giving this year ago I came up with the
idea of giving out watermelon on
Saturday and on at the end of tishab at
the at the hotel it's a cute silly idea
but that was some little tiny bit of
trying to take these concepts and bring
it into my into our lives. Maybe for
another person it's learning every day
to get to wipe away which we know is one
of the sources of the destruction.
Everyone will make their own
but we shouldn't just let it be an
inspirational day where you sing the
good but we should take it to propel us
to action. May may Hashem bless us that
this year we shouldn't have to sing only
but uh if notem
uh we will have together we'll end with
a song and then uh questions for uh for
for all of
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