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Workplace Affairs: A Jewish Perspective You Need to Hear
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Rabbi Josh Zebberman reacts to Dr. John Delony and Ken Coelmen about affairs and shares a Jewish percpetive.
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Dr John deloney and Ken Coleman sit down
for a candid conversation about an
unfortunate rise of infidelity and
unfaithfulness in the workplace they
discuss why this happens what we can do
to prevent it I want to share with you
this brief clip stick around because I
want to share with you what the Jewish
perspective is on preventing the
unfortunate mishaps of unfaithfulness
and infidelity take a listen 85
5% of Affairs start at work baby one in
five employees confess to being
unfaithful with a
colleague and I was sitting there
processing this and I was I was truly
stunned when does
risking not just your
marriage and your relationship with your
kids but your job yeah we're talking
about this feels like a massive risk
yeah in other words having an affair
outside of work may or may not affect
your job in certain places at a lot of
places if you are having an affair with
someone at work well you created a real
weird dynamic what does do I mean it
blows it up what is going on in
somebody where they where one in five
people are saying yeah I've been
unfaithful with a colleague they get to
the point where they go they have to
know that's risky but they just go I
don't care what's going on there so
we've created the loneliest generation
in human history that's what you have is
two people who are good at co-managing
the house I'll get little league
practice you get this I'll make sure we
call the plumber I'll get the trash
out and you have absolutely no shared
purpose or building anything
together and life becomes so quick and
so fast and then I go to
work and me and you and two amazing
women are working together on a project
that's going to help
10 million people now we have shared
purpose we're talking about how we feel
about things we have a goal we have
metrics where I'm spending more time
with her or him than I am with my spouse
that's right how many of us go home and
they we pull into our street yeah and
you just right right right and so it's
worth everything it's all positive at
work it's worth everything picturing
this but even when it's negative yall
are negative
together right it's yall two vers the
boss it's y all two versus the customer
is y all two versus the salesman right
and by the way everybody's got their
makeup
on pretty good that's right we're
smiling we're joking we're flirting
whatever don't see they don't see your
snot rags by the bed they don't see you
not flush the toilet they don't see any
of the stuff that makes you you it feels
like when I saw this data John I guess
that's what I'm asking it I don't want
to be judgmental I'm not judging but I'm
wondering because what I want to get to
is is how do we guard against this you
know I was raised in a world it's like
like you never ride in a car with a
woman that's not your spouse I was
raising a world like you you don't have
a meeting in a room with a closed door
you know like all those things got that
seems insane to a lot of people I will
tell you there will people watch this
and it will immediately create
conversation which I'm fine with but
then when we get back to the data
M we have got to guard ourselves to the
point that if I find a female coworker
attractive I have got to put a boundary
up in my my opinion yeah agree or
disagree I think that's
symptomatic
of if me and my wife were building
something together and my chief purpose
is
here then work becomes a thing I do and
you become an amazing a beautiful woman
and you become an amazing attractive it
doesn't impact me in any way because
what I'm building is here so I think you
can build these things and I think
they're wise and important and
everybody's got their different
boundaries this is where I wish more
people f so from a Jewish perspective I
want to share with you two brief things
number one we have What's called the
laws of Y the laws of seclusion
according to Jewish law men and women
who are not married to each other and
not directly closely related don't be in
the room together in a way that's
secluded for two reasons number one what
can that lead to and I think we know
what that can lead to now you may say
Well I'm I'm not thinking that way I
don't think it will lead to that but the
truth is being in a room with somebody
in a way that's
secluded is in a very subtle way an act
of intimacy and you want to reserve that
act of intimacy for your
spouse um it's incredibly important for
spouses to be able to share a room I
can't tell you how many couples I meet
and unfortunately which is why they're
coming to me to work on things they're
not sharing a room
together but forget what they're doing
in the room just being in the room
together and the way that's secluded is
so important it's so crucial the first
thing a married couple does when they
walk away from the wedding canopy right
after the right after the marriage
ceremony is they go in the room they go
in a room for the first time together
secluded nobody else there being in the
room together is incredibly intimate and
that has to be reserved for your spouse
and not um you don't want to become
desensitized by being with other people
or lead to Temptation that's number one
number
two people are going to attribute all
sorts of reasons for unfortunate uh
Rises and infidelity whether there was a
problem in their marriage they didn't
love or respect each other or there was
other types of issues um love respect
trust these are all important things
they're
crucial but they are mechanisms they're
Pathways so we can't get lost in trying
to find love then we could find it in
other places we can't get lost in trying
to find respect or trust because we
could find it in other places but ask
yourself this question if my marriage
was full of love was full of respect and
Trust if I was the husband I wanted to
be or the wife I wanted to be what would
I notice that's different about this
marriage if love trust respect whatever
pathway you need in that marriage if
that was present what would be
different and I want you to look closely
and carefully for that
difference because I can almost bet you
that that difference is there in some
subtle way and the more you notice it
the more you look for that light that
goodness the more you're going to see it
and that is going to help your marriage
because a little bit of light dispels a
lot of dark that's my story and I'm
sticking to it